YTSEJAM Digest 2240
Today's Topics:
1) Seeking Promos and stuff
by "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
2) Other great prog - Phish!
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
3) what's with all this Power of Omens talk, all of a sudden?
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
4) various junk
by YtseJim <LUTZ@uhavax.hartford.edu>
5) Re: Awake
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
6) PAL Format VHS
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2239
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
8) Re: Don't take *me* off.
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
9) Re: Drum tunings
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
10)
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
11) Bad-Traders...no new ones...
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
12) Online CD stores
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
13) prog 97
by "woot" <sir@micron.net>
14) Re: prog 97
by Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
15) How to tune your drums.
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
16) DT after strep throat is very very ugly
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:26:58 +-100
From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Seeking Promos and stuff
Message-ID: <01BC0FCE.6CF7F3C0@utrecht52.pop.tip.nl>
Hi Jammers,
I'm looking for the following DT promo's:
Wanted:
*12" "Pull Me Under" RockAhead1030 UK Promo
*12" "Pull Me Under" RockAhead11775UK Promo(4 bands)
*2cd "Foundation Forum 88" Concr.8801/8802USA Promo Sampler.
*2cd "Protect the Innocent" TCD -2363Sampler (UK)
*lp "Images And Words" ? ? ? ?French issue.
*cd "Rock Tune Up 87" TA Netw. 31-08-92USA Promo Sampler
*cd "The E. Entertainment Group" PRCD 9351-AUSA Promo Sampler
*cd "The next sounds you hear" PRCD 4902-2USA Promo Sampler
*cd "Another Day" PRCD 5077-2USA Promo (No Sleeve !!)
*cd "Live" PRCD 5340-2USA Promo (2 tracks !!)
*2lp "Metal Shop" MJI MS-268USA Radioshow (17-03-89)
*cd "When dream and day unite" MCD-42259France (different sleeve)
Please email me privately
Thanx in advance!
Denis
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Date: 31 Jan 97 15:02:00 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Other great prog - Phish!
Message-ID: <199701312311.PAA25570@mailsun3-fddi.us.oracle.com>
Recently there's been a lot of talk about not-DT prog bands that are worth
checking out. One band that I have not heard mentioned here, and think should
be, is Phish. Their earlier stuff is definitely progressive, the musicians
are fantastic, and their style is totally unique. If you have not checked out
this band, I urge you to do yourself a favor and buy "A Picture of Nectar" or
"Junta" (a double disc). Trey Anastasio has a masters in jazz guitar, which
by itself means nothing, but if you listen to this music you'll appreciate its
harmonic complexity. And it's also very fun, inspiring music.
Any other opinions?
-Neil.
"Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together go
to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of genius..."
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:18:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: what's with all this Power of Omens talk, all of a sudden?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970131181449.11927D-100000@seawolf.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Funny, I seem to recall plugging this band and this demo in november and
december a coupla times with no response......even tried to put it in my
year end top 5 list that i sent to Syrinx (Mike Ostrich)....but he
wouldn't accept it becuz it wasn't commercially released.....
for those who received it recently, can someone e-mail me and tell me what
the bassist's e-mail address is (if it was on there)?
the dude gave an address and asked for comments, but i lost the package
too soon after i got the tape.....
partha
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:23:47 +0000
From: YtseJim <LUTZ@uhavax.hartford.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: various junk
Message-ID: <Pine.VMS.3.91-vms-b4.970131181803.10370A-100000@uhavax.hartford.edu>
I can't believe how many people have not heard the Xmas 95 shows...
It looks like half the list joined in the last 6 months....
You ALL missed the Tape Tree?
I would love to help you people but i'm already a little back logged on
trades....
Concerning the lie video...the place i got it from was Rock Video Monthly..
I don't even know if they still exist...if they do...ya might try back
ordering it...but its highly unlikely
Oh yeah...with all the talk of new releases...not one person has
mentioned Metallica?!?
//######################################################\\
// Jim Lutz "Time was never on my side, \\
// So on I wait my whole lifetime" \\
// lutz@uhavax.hartford.edu -Metallica \\
// YtseJim@DreamT.org \\
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:49:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Awake
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970131184849.17696A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Why does Erotomania give all the major themes of The Silent Man in the
middle? Just a question. I would think that maybe they would have one
theme run through the whole albom or something. Be well.
Matt B
====================
"You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The
Great Muppet Movie)
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:47:39 -0500 (EST)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries)
Subject: PAL Format VHS
Message-ID: <199701312347.SAA09132@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
If anyone has any information on where I can get some VHS tapes
that are in PAL format converted to the US Standard, it would be greatly
appreciated.
I have two VHS tapes from The Netherlands chock full of DT stuff
(Headbanger's Ball, Japan PPV, Live in Europe...etc.) but I can't watch
them and it's driving me nuts!
Thanx in advance. later.
-John
--
_________________ _ ____________________
(^) (^)
<-o->koggie@cyberspace.org is John R. Kotzian<-o->
(v)________________ __ __ ___________________(v)
Desperately trying to figure out why Kamakazi pilots wore helmets.
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:54:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2239
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970131165145.12784B-100000@enteract.com>
> From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
> Subject: Superior CD from Dream Disc
>
> I see that many other like myself having been waiting for quite
> a while to get the Superior album from Dream Disc. I've been
> waiting since December 9th!! I gave them a call today.
> The guy said that Noise contacted them last Friday and said
> they would be shipping the CD's this past monday. Hopefully
> we should be getting them in a week or so.
Don't be annoyed by me doing this, but when someone posts
something like this i feel compelled to defend DreamDisc and Impulse
Records. I don't owe them allegiance, or work for the companies... I just
know that Noise has been screwing them over for a while, and there has
been no way for them to speed things up.
> Star Wars:
> >Am I the only one who took the day off from work to be at the first
> matinee?
Hehehehe The GF and I just saw the 11 AM show, since I didn't have
to get to work until 2.
> Can someone please privately e-mail me the URLs for
>
> - DreamDisc
> - Impulse
I'm too fuckin' lazy to do this by Private e mail, and I've gotten
like 25 requests for Impulse's info in the last two days, so I'll post it
here.
http://www.primenet.com/%7Eshaun/impulse/
Phone: (630) 529-3070
fax: (630) 529-3089
I like these guys a lot. Their web page doesn't offer online ordering,
and their online catalog is over three months outdated (especially when he
gets anywhere from 3-15 new titles in a week). The best bet currently is
to call them or write me and I'll call them since it's local. We're
talking to them about setting up a secure server package so they can do
online credit card transactions... maybe that will help you all out soon.
If you order from them, tell them you heard of them from Chris on the
Dream Theater Internet Mailing List so they can gauge how effective or
useful the internet marketing would be. No I don't get discounts for it
(which you can ask them if you don't believe me. :)
> > that's not right. Hmm. Then I guess I don't give a Coulomb. Is
> > there I Type O Negative list that i can subscribe to to get Dream
> > Theater info?
>
> Is there, like, anything *new* going on in the Dream Theater camp? Or
> have all news been beat to death already?
>
> Okay, that doesn't justify posting useless crap as I just did. :-(
But alas, it was a joke. If it amuses you or anyone else to talk Type O
on the list, go for it. I'll just jump in and drop some third rate witty
remarks here and there. :)
> WHats up everyone.
> I have a question that I hope can be ansewred. Last night I treid to get
> into the irc.dreamt.org It would have been my first time but it asked
> for a login name and password how do I obtain this???? Thanks.
You probably didn't put in the port number. Be sure you go to
irc.dreamt.org port=2112
> ..Anyone know a good place to > find these Symphony-X, Eldritch, and
> Angra's Angels Cry CDs to help > contribute to my delinquency?....
> As such I can say that the easiest place to order from was Impulse
> Records.
See the earlier section of my post (Impulse!)
- Chris Ptacek
"Bite Me, Fan Boy." - Lobo... the Last Czarnian
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 16:09:32 PST
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Don't take *me* off.
Message-ID: <9702010009.AA22098@tengs1>
tara.widner@etak.com (Tara Widner) SCREAMED,
>TAKE ME OFF OF THIS LIST
>Why oh why doesn't anyone read the friendly reminder that Skadz posts every
Saturday night? Is anyone keeping track of how many "take me off this list"
posts there have been in Jam-history? Silliness.
Well, I think someone a long time ago agreed to be the
"unofficial" notifyer in sending people the correct instructions
on how to sub, unsub from the list, but I'm not sure if he's
still doing it. I already sent her the instructions (I have
them memorized (like it's really hard anyway)).
What amazes me is that people who've been in the 'Net, should
*know* that sending such messages to the list address is not
the correct way to get things done. I figured it out almost
right away when I first got 'Net access. Oh well...
Zach
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 19:05:30 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Drum tunings
Message-ID: <199702010216.TAA13681@cyberhighway.net>
> Hey all,
> Does any one know how Portnoy tunes his drums? My drummer is having
> some trouble eliminating some of that nasty ringing in the toms. He's been
> thinking of going to those little pads that mute the drum from beneath the
> head, but he doesn't want to waste the money if he can do it another way.
I think my drummer at one time MacGyvered his. ( I think he got
those pads now) He just duct taped the bottoms of em if I remember.
Hell, it works on ductwork, why not drums? I'll ask him though.
Maybe he didn,t and it may screw em up. Lemme get back with ya on
this laterz.
Speaking of Drums...
> It was mentioned by some fellow Y'Jammers that drum machines were
> used on Shadow Gallery's self-titled first CD. Although I may be
> missing something, this is not mentioned at all on the CD. In fact,
> on the bottom of the back page of the CD insert it lists *Additional
> appearances by Ben Timely: Drums and Percussion; John Cooney:
> Additional Percussion. Maybe this was in addition to drum
> machines???
I think I,d said it last. I never saw that. Someone mentioned when
the album was prepped for re-release in November that it was a drum
machin sonce Kevin Soffera hadn,t joined the band yet (and now he
left again, what a pisser) Anyway, maybe these guys played somewhere
or programmed the machines. (shrug) Cuz there are alot of parts on
the album if I listen for it it sounds like a drum machine to me when
I listen to the cymbals. Too fake sounding and besides, each high
hat hit sounds the exact same to me. Ne variations anywhere. (shrug)
can anyone help me. My apostrophe's fell down. And why is
cuntrakshun such a long word? Long day at work...
KorgX3 NOT The "Other" Ibanez (anymore)
ibanez@cyberhighway.net
"Well, I try to write music that Indiana Jones would listen to."
--David Arkenstone
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:26:11 -0500 (EST)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199702010226.VAA18605@newman.concentric.net>
I know you're all lost without my bad-traders list so I've been {trying} to
get some info on CD dealers(not traders, but if you do know some bad traders
email me) on the internet. So if you could give me *any* info(good or bad)
on these dealers I would could update my list with some reliable CD dealers.
>From: Randall Braun <RBraun@adnc.ameridata.com>
>Subject: Online CD Sources
>CD Universe:
>CDNow:
>CDConnection:
>Music Boulevard:
>German Music Express:
>MusicNet AG / TeleCD
>Tunnel Records:
>CD SHOP GOLD / SOUND+ACTION:
>Magna Carta Records:
>M&M Music Progressive Rock:
>Noise Records:
>Dream Disc:
>Superior from Empire Entertainment:
>APOCALYPSE Music:
Thanks in advance!
John McCabe
caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:39:25 -0500 (EST)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bad-Traders...no new ones...
Message-ID: <199702010239.VAA25805@newman.concentric.net>
You know the drill you if you trade and don't want to get ripped off read
this but if you want to get ripped off, hey have fun, and skip this.
*Al Balkewicz(who says he is going to complete the trade after almost 3 years!)
*Jermey Haynes aka Sue Moscardini(is this person still on the jam?)
*CD Cellar adversities about stuff they don't have in stock(which I found
out is the norm for many CD dealers...).
If there are _any_ mistakes about these people or if you disagree with what
I have here PLEASE email ME(not the jam!).
Okay now I know you people want others to learn from your mistakes and not
get ripped off by the same guy. Well here's what you do!
1) Give me the person's
a. name
b. email address
c. real address
2)Tell me what the problem was.
3)Tell me where you met the person(the ytsejam, some newsgroup) and if you
know where they hang out at(any other newsgroups, mailing lists, or even
chat rooms).
4)Tell me what was it you were trading.
***********
Well hopefully next time I post one of these things I can have some
recommendations for some CD dealers!
John McCabe
caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:18:15 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Online CD stores
Message-ID: <199702010318.WAA26477@cliff.cris.com>
Randall Braun supplied the following information, and here's my input on the
topic.
>CD Universe:
>http://www.cduniverse.com/
Excellent service. Quick to ship. Good selection, but not a lot of Prog imports.
>CDNow:
>https://cdnow.com/
Also very good. Similar selection to that of CD Universe.
>German Music Express:
>http://www.musicexpress.com/
Excellent service. Quick to ship. Lots of goodies like Angra, Symphony X,
etc. Only $3 for shipping regardless of the size of your order.
>Tunnel Records:
>http://www.csmonline.com:80/tunnel/index.html
Controversial business. I've seen lots of people bitch about them on the
usenet, but apparently it's because they don't stock much of what's on their
HUGE list of bootlegs. So it takes them a long time to get stuff, and people
get angry. I decided to test the water myself and ordered something recently
despite all the hub-bub. They acknowledged receipt of my order, and now I'm
patiently waiting for the goods. If I get robbed, you'll be sure to hear
about it.
>CD SHOP GOLD / SOUND+ACTION:
>http://gold-tokyo.com/
Lots of bootlegs, BUT they refuse to reply to any of my email queries. Also,
since they are in Japan and do not accept credit cards, we U.S. folks need
to get an international money order or wire them the money (which is
expensive as balls). Seems too risky to me. I won't take my chances with them.
>APOCALYPSE Music:
>http://clever.net/apocalypse
They have been discussed here recently, and the consensus is that they are
bad news. Avoid them.
Be good.
-Rick
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:36:38 -0700
From: "woot" <sir@micron.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: prog 97
Message-ID: <199702010337.UAA09349@snowden.micron.net>
Ok folks. I've been comprising a list of new prog albums due out in 97.
It's not very complete, but I'm sure lots of you can help fill me in.
Notice this is prog. (VH and Megadeth don't count).
Dream Theater Summer ???
Savatage Summer ???
Shadow Gallery ??? Tyranny
Queensryche March 17 Hear in the Now Frontier
Fates Warning April 22 A pleasant Shade of Grey
Galactic Cowboys April/May ???
Dr. Butcher late 97 The Good the Bad and the Butchered
Crimson Glory ??? ???
Stratovarious April Visions
feel free to add or fill in as needed.
woot
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:09:25 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Byrne <rael@access.mountain.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: prog 97
Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970131231024.12278dce@access.mountain.net>
At 07:41 PM 1/31/97 -0800, Woot wrote:
>Ok folks. I've been comprising a list of new prog albums due out in 97.
>It's not very complete, but I'm sure lots of you can help fill me in.
>Notice this is prog. (VH and Megadeth don't count).
>
>feel free to add or fill in as needed.
Add Marillion's _This Strange Engine_, due sometime in April.
I think the new Enchant, _Wounded_, is due in the US in March/April.
Also there's a double CD concept album on the way from IQ, but I don't know
when.
It's gonna' be a hell of a year. :)
Jonathan Byrne, 1L
West Virginia University College of Law
rael@access.mountain.net (WormWood or DrNick on IRC)
NEW WEBPAGE! http://access.mountain.net/~rael/home.htm
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"I told her eating people wasn't pleasant
But she laughed a snake eye laugh
And walked away from me."
-Hogarth & Helmer, "Cannibal Surf Babe", Marillion
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:26:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: How to tune your drums.
Message-ID: <199702010526.AAA14419@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
I can answer the question about tuning your toms.
1. Undo all the lugs on the tom that you wish to tune.
2. Take off the drum head.
3. Hold the drum head level with your eyes, if it isn't perfectly straight,
throw it away and buy a new one. (about $11-15.00 at a music store) check
the rim of the head too. If it's warped trash it. If it's good:
4. Buy a box of tissues and a roll of duct tape.
5. On the bottom of the head:
1. Fold over about 8 tissues (once in half and fold
once lengthwise.
2. Take the duct tape and tape the tissues to the
bottom of the head.
6. Reattach the head the tom and tighten to disired taughtness. DO NOT
OVERTIGHTEN this will cause a warping of the head and make sure that the
when you tighten the head you alternate lugs. (i.e. start at the bottom and
go to the other side and tighten.) Do it slowly, so that you get even
tightening.
OR:
Repeat steps 1-3 and instead of tissues: Use carpet pading ($2-3.00 a
square foot.) and cover all the wood inside the tom. Use short staples to
affix the pading to the wood inside the tom.
DO NOT:
Do this to a snare drum. It will sound aweful. Only do it to toms
or cymbal (on cymbals use just duct tape ripped in half and make an "X"
across the cymbal if the cymbal sucks)
Any other questions or suggestions e mail me directly. Later, Jeremy
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 23:52:56 -0600
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT after strep throat is very very ugly
Message-ID: <32f2da3636f1002@cliff.ou.edu>
I've had strep throat the past couple of weeks. Really nice
welcome-back-to-school present, m? I usually sing while driving to and from
school, which is an hour each way. So after four months of two hours per
day "rehearsal", I was doing pretty well. Then came Christmas break, then
came strep throat.
So we finally get to the part where I mention that I'm bellering along with
KJLB, on _Awake_, and "Voices" comes on. Sounded like giving birth through
my tonsils.
"Voices discussing mehhhhhhhhhhxxxxkkkk ack ack shit!"
Hey, that ain't how it goes.
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to get back to that nice clear
sound? My crossover has shifted way low, and I sound more like Michael
Hutchence than Annie Lennox. At least I can do that growly thing like
everyone else now. (OOh, big achievement!) Over the past week it's gotten
better, so is it just practice practise (spell it how you like) or is there
a quick cure?
Frustrated,
Jazzmin
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