YTSEJAM Digest 2701
Today's Topics:
1) Falling into Infinity and beyond (Re: Yup...)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
2) Re: Music (Christian/Secular)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
3) Re: the greatest irony
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
4) GAY(my first and last reply to all of this)
by "Aaron Happe" <happity@hotmail.com>
5) Wow, 2700 Jams.
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
6) Slaughter?
by John Cummings <cummings@ee.ualberta.ca>
7) KX/DT
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
8) Anniversary, title, hypocrites, albums
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
9) Nope, they're not gay
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
10) Miscellaneous crap and partial DTC
by "Nicole R. Stachowicz-McWatters" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
11) Was that *really* Rip?
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
12) Is there a DT Electronic Newsletter?
by Charlie Patel <patelc@ro.com>
13) Re: Independence
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
14) Berklee
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM partial digest 2701
by Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:11:25 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Falling into Infinity and beyond (Re: Yup...)
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970705133237.007e7e10@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 02:29 AM 7/5/97 -0700, Mike Bahr wrote:
> So... Falling into Infinity eh. Hmmm. Well, here's hoping. If the
>band members are listening in... and I'm guessing at least one of them
>(probably Portnoy) has this view... ADD as MUCH balls and chunk to the new
>album as possible. Go wild... don't pull a Queensryche on us.
I *strongly* second that!! I wanna hear some
HEAVYYYYYYYYYYYY....
PROGRESSIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEE....
music.
>(Don't get
>me wrong... I like HITNF... but anyone who thinks it's as complex as their
>past work is having delusions).
This is an honest opinion of HITNF: "I've never heard grunge done better."
.
.-/ \
_.-~ / \___ ______ __ _
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/ . . || __| | |\ / ' || |__
/ / ~| ||____| |_| /_/|_||____|
/ / |-~\ \ \ \ | || || |
/ /__ / \ \____\|\_\|_/|_||____| WILL NEVER DIE.
/ .-~\ \-~
/.-~ \
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\ .-~ ~Vince
\.-~
If you don't like it, it won't hurt my feelings. :)
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:11:27 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: Corey Bell <cmbell@inx.net>, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Music (Christian/Secular)
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970705140418.007feae0@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 10:37 AM 7/5/97 -0700, Corey Bell wrote:
> I have a little problem and I hope someone out there can help me
>out. Lately I have started to see, within my hometown, that people like to
>judge music on wether it is Christian or Secular(sp?). The first problem I
>had was with a friend of mine, who is a Christian, who's mother would not
>allow my bands cd into her house because it wasn't Christian. This is where
>my problem begins. I am having trouble seeing how people label what is
>christian and what is not. So with this in mind I borrowed some of her music
>and listened to it and to tell you the truth I couldn't really see the
>difference in the lyrics of her music and mine.
There's a big misconception that I _think_ is sprung out of the Campus
Crusade for Christ (around most college campuses). That misconception is
that if music isn't Christian, then it's working against Christianity. I
find that to be so untrue. I've watched CCfC videos that condemn bands
such as Megadeth, Metallica, Twisted Sister, Ozzy, and even Huey Lewis!
Any song about doing something your own way is considered Satanic. That's
a load of BS in my book.
I'm a Catholic, and I enjoy listening to secular music and Christian
music. I just won't touch the satanic stuff. Yeah, Slayer made some great
music, but I'd never buy one of their CDs. I wouldn't want ot support
them, or have anything of theirs in my posession, ya know?
There's a bunch of Christian bands that support my viewpoint too. One of
them is the Christian speed metal band, Tourniquet. They said that they
listen to a ton of secular music, and find no fault in doing so. Ted
Kirkpatrick, the drummer, said in an interview for Heaven's Metal Magazine
that he was influenced by bands like Slayer, even though that the lyrical
content was horrid.
> I also have another friend who goes to the same church and he really
>likes stuff like DT and Metallica etc. but he will not buy any of these cd's
>because they are not Christian.
Would you show him the lyrics from "Surrounded", "Afterlife", "Only a
Matter of Time", and "A Mind Beside Itself" please. Then ask him if he
thinks the band isn't a bunch of Christians :) Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
is a serious Christian (I'll type out an entire article for you if you want
to see what I mean) who thinks alot of his past activities (1990 and
before) were very bad. As for Metallica, Hetfield and Hammett grew up
Christian (Hetfield's parents were Christian Scientists, and Hammett went
to Catholic grade school), but I doubt either one truly believes now.
However, that's not a judgement for me to make. Metallica is still a fav
band of mine, and I totally think they are completely secular.
In fact, I listen to a ton more secular music than I do Christian. Does
that make me a bad person? No. Does it make me less of a Christian? Of
course not. Anyone who believes so, in my book, is an idiot. End of
story. :)
>However he doesn't hesitate to be the
>Galactic Cowboys or Kings X because they are.
> Why can't good music just be good music? I don't understand why
>music made by Christians is considered Christian music and what makes it any
>more holy than other music.
Just because Christian music is for the glory of God. Some people believe
that secular music does nothing for the human spirit and shows no honor to
God, so why listen to it? That's part of their perspective, I think.
>If a gay person writes a song is it a gay song?
Melissa Ethridge has some good songs :)
>What about instrumental or classical music, is it even capable of being
>classified?
Oh, that's easy! If it's over 120 bpm and it's minor or the least bit
heavy, it's totally satanic and you can't listen to it. If it's slow,
boring and happy sounding, it's perfectly fine ;)~ <<<sarcasm>>>
>I believe that good music is good music no matter whom it is
>made by.
I totally agree.
>If anyone has any opinions on this please let me know. Thanks for
>listening.
No problem. I see this crap all too often. I'm a professional musician
and I get paid to play a few masses a weekend at a local Catholic Church,
and you should see the looks on people's face when I tell them my main form
of music is metal. What a shocker, most people think it's just the devil's
music, but as Scott Ian from Anthrax put it: "I personally think the
devil's into new age."
;)~
Laterz all,
Peace be with you and God bless,
~Vince
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:11:29 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: the greatest irony
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970705141123.007e7c80@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 11:01 AM 7/5/97 -0700, ytsegoon wrote:
>i mean, look at it- neil peart is gay, isn't he? and look at how brilliant
>his drumming was once upon a time. i mean, we've heard so much about the
>neil-likes-men stupidity that we almost hope he is in our darkest dreams.
Actually, I truly hope Mr. Peart is NOT in my darkest dreams!! ;) The
dude scares me!
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:32:00 PDT
From: "Aaron Happe" <happity@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: GAY(my first and last reply to all of this)
Message-ID: <199707052132.OAA04588@f44.hotmail.com>
Imagine one day you wake up and you start finding a friend of the same
sex attractive, you are like WTF! At first you think this is nothing
and you push it far far back but it keeps coming back, you are afraid,
you feel alone, you feel like a freak YOU DO NOT WANT THIS. All your
life you thought you were straight and now you know what real feelings
for someone else are. To make it easier you start saying you are bi,
but as the years go by you realize you have no feelings for the other
sex at all other than friendship. The worst part is coming up now,
imagine that most of the world HATES your for this, you think you are
going to hell. Either you go your whole life without intimacy or be an
out cast and a minority. Everyone else is able to experience the
feelings in which they are feeling with their lovers but you are shammed
for it. Just imagine that...
I know of a few gay ppl and all of which say it is not a choice, to me
if you are prejudice against them you are just as bad as groups like the
KKK.
-Aaron Happe
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 18:30:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Wow, 2700 Jams.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970705181918.22340A-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Are we falling towards infinity here as well?
> From: Corey Bell <cmbell@inx.net>
> Subject: Music (Christian/Secular)
>
> Why can't good music just be good music?
Because the music industry won't let it be that simple. Every single
piece of music has to fall into a category, so that places like Sam Goody
and BMG can move more units. This isn't always a bad thing, btw. Often
enough, I've tried out new bands because someone called them "progressive"
(whether they were or not) and liked them. But it seems that your case is
far more extreme than that.
Me? I just categorize the stuff I like as "good" and the stuff I don't
like as "not good." It works for me.
> I don't understand why
> music made by Christians is considered Christian music and what makes it any
> more holy than other music.
I'm not even going there.
----> From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> > Subject: Flame me to hell, but some of you need to read this. > > WELCOME TO YTSEJAM (last updated January 10, 1995) > > *** NOTE:THIS WILL BE COMPLETELY UPDATED SOON!!!
Yeah, right. :)
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> From: Thrak75@aol.com > Subject: the greatest irony > > theory on the imposter situation is this: he's OBVIOUSLY trying to actually > HELP d-man. take a deep breath- i did say that, and i'm almost totally > serious.
Well, shit, if it works, I'll stop complaining. :)
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> From: Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca> > Subject: blah blah blah blah blah
[snip]
<gasp> I agreed with a post from Lars. Repent - the end is nigh! Or, at least, it's time to start posting DTC again.
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> From: Graeme Nicholson <lbgn@easynet.co.uk> > Subject: Re: About Berklee... > > Corey, you GOT INTO BERKLEE. Who cares what anyone else thinks or says > about the place, you're going to walk where GIANTS HAVE WALKED. This > practically guarantees that you're going to have a profound understanding > and appreciation of music that many could only dream of attaining.
BERKLEE IS NO FU... oh, forget it.
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> From: fish69@juno.com (James D Carey) > Subject: Misc. apologize from the low end the morning after > > -AA > fish69@juno.com > "Falling into Stupidity"
All right! We got our first parody of the new album title! Way to go, Fish!
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:49:46 -0600 (MDT) From: John Cummings <cummings@ee.ualberta.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Slaughter? Message-ID: <199707052248.PAA14772@odin.ax.com>
A question. Slaughter is coming to Edmonton on July 9. I've never really listened to thier music, so I'm going to ask if it's worth going out to. For reference, I like: DT (duh.), FW, GC, Milla, Megadeth, MD .45 (same thing), Phish, ....
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:50:22 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: KX/DT Message-ID: <199707052250.PAA00267@goodnet.com>
Doug Pinnick on the new DT album... on Lines in the Sand... hmmm.. .sort of Ear Candy deja-vu here! That's so cool though. My two favourite bands collaborating... in ANY way... is good.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 17:50:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com> To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Anniversary, title, hypocrites, albums Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970705173040.17541A-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
Howdy!
'Jam 2700! I think my first 'jam was 17-hundred-and-something, so I'm approaching my 1000-jam anniversary. Cool. (can I count the hundred-or-so 'jams I missed due to the flood?)
Falling Into Infinity. Fits with the theme of slightly-mystical, thought-provoking titles. Why are people complaining about it? Especially, why are people complaining about the mathematics behind it? It's DT! They could call it "Falling Into Love with Mud-Wrestling Chia-Pet Fetishists" and we'd all still buy it!
Does anyone else find it intriguing that several people have posted things along the lines of "I don't get involved in these gay threads," followed by one page telling everyone else they should do the same, followed by a page of their views on homosexuality? Hypocrites. Just quit, already. Skadz, get a rope. :-)
Finally, there were posts last January or so about all the awesome bands putting out albums this year, and I don't want to miss any. DT, Marillion, Savatage, QR (got it), Fates (got it), Shadow Gallery (maybe?), Crimson Glory... who else?
Also, what's the cheapest place to order such albums online? Even in a city of 3 million people, I couldn't find enough CG albums to wallpaper a fishbowl...
Later, --Jay "not a mud-wrestling chia-pet fetishist" Omega --NP: Birdsongs of the Mesozoic - Pyroclastics
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:55:08 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Nope, they're not gay Message-ID: <199707052255.PAA00648@goodnet.com>
Dave, you dingus! :) Neither Peart nor Sherinian are gay. Neil Peart is _married_ and has a _daughter_... so apparently all the cylinders are firing correctly... and Derek? You should see him after the DT shows. He's a complete chick magnet. I don't know how he does it, but based on the sheer numbers of boobs 'n cheeks being rubbed in his direction, I'd say the idea of being gay never even enters his mind. :)
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 19:05:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz-McWatters" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Miscellaneous crap and partial DTC Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970705181919.23416A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>
Hi, you crazy 'jammers! Yes, I got married. Yes, I've finally read the 25+ posts that were in my mailbox. Yes, Ken is fine. Yes, Maui was beautiful. Anything else? Now on to the crap that's been posted lately.
D-man wrote: >I'm sure he can find some kindred spirits in Texas to whom he can spout >his fear and loathing of homosexuals, and non-Christians generally, >without having to blow his steam here.
I'm offended. I live in Texas. And I'm NOT weird. (Unless you call spending all day Saturday reading backlogged ytsejams weird.) Just messin' with ya, D! ;) Btw, did you ever figure out who that fucknut is? And did you give him a good talkin' to with your weedwacker?
But seriously, though, I've been floored by the number of posts regarding D-man's impostor. I *WILL NOT* put my personal views on gays, Christians, or anything else. However, I will respond to Corey Bell's post on Christian music.
<DTC> Your friend (I assume) said that all music not written by Christian artists should not be listened to, including DT. However, I would think that Another Day could be, in some small way, construed (sp?) as Christian, since Christians are against suicide and for living life. Now, don't misread this: I'm NOT saying that DT is a Christian band. Quite the opposite, since Petrucci grew up Catholic but writes lyrics that challenge those ideas, and I think someone else falls into that category. (Forgive me, I'm 'jam-flooded at the moment ;) But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) But I don't think you can classify an entire collection of music (whether by genre or band) as Christian or Non-Christian.
I'm certainly not THE authority on this topic, so if you have any other ideas, and if our good List Manager will tolerate them, I'm more than willing to hear them. "Flames will politely be ignored." </DTC>
Oh, just one more quick thing. A local TV station (Channel 13 KTRK/ABC in Houston) aired a quick spot on The Wizard of Oz/DSotM connection. It was kinda interesting! They gave the gratuitous examples ("Balanced on the biggest wave... You race towards an early grave", "Time", "Money", etc.) But then they put a different spin on it. They did the same thing with the Wizard of Oz and Led Zeppelin IV. Examples include "Black Dog" being related to Dorothy's family's finances ("down and out"); "Stairway to Heaven" setting the tone for the dream sequence (line: "Oh, it makes me wonder"); and later in the same song it announces the arrival of the Good Witch (line: "There walks a lady we all know"). Anyway, thought you might be interested!
Happy 'jamming! (And i'm serious about that! :)
-Nicole/Kirby
Nicole Rene Stachowicz McWatters | The sleep is still in my eyes Undergrad Professional Writing Major | The dream is still in my head University of Houston-Downtown | I close my eyes and ... smile stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | And lie a while in bed. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 | Kirby on irc.dreamt.org | "Soliloquy" _2112_ by Rush
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:22:54 -0700 From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Was that *really* Rip? Message-ID: <19970705.171933.10838.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
With all this forging of emails and shit I'm really confused. Well, I'm always confused, just trying to find different things to blame it on. ;-)
I'm really quite shocked if that was really Mario because he is usually very diplomatic and doesn't usually post like that. When he unsubbed I had before him and when I came back he didn't post so I figgered he wasn't around, but jeez...........
I'm not bitching about him, I was just surprised and figured that idiot was forging mail again.
Scott
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:41:20 -0500 From: Charlie Patel <patelc@ro.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Is there a DT Electronic Newsletter? Message-ID: <01BC897B.6A958DA0@ts2p14.ro.com>
I'm a subscriber of the YTSEJAM digest, but I simply don't have to time = to read all the entries. Is there a email newletter that I can subscribe = to which gives only important information and current news of Dream = Theater?
Please respond to patelc@ro.com
Thanks, Charlie Patel
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:21:12 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Independence Message-ID: <19970706012614.AAA16577@sni.pananet.com>
> First of all...I have complete independce in 5 limbs. Second of all...
So what you're saying, Mr. Laussade, is that you can play drums with your penis?
Here's a fun little exercise I read in an interview with Robert Fripp. It helps you divide your attention. First tap 4/4 beat with one foot, and a 5/4 over that with the other foot.
It'd be something like this:
tap tap tap tap
tap tap tap tap tap
now keep on doing that, and try to keep a converstaion w/ someone, while keeping the beat. Now I personally woould feel like fool talking to somebody while doing this, so what I do is try to watch TV while doing this. Supposedly, it is eventually possible to truly divide your attention to 2 completely differnt things at tha same time.
fun, eh?
and yes, Robert Fripp can do this.
falling into infinity, Ernie
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:15:52 -0500 From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Berklee Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970706031552.00760ca4@pop.enteract.com>
>From: Graeme Nicholson <lbgn@easynet.co.uk> >Subject: Re: About Berklee...
>Corey, you GOT INTO BERKLEE. Who cares what anyone else thinks or says >about the place, you're going to walk where GIANTS HAVE WALKED. This >practically guarantees that you're going to have a profound understanding >and appreciation of music that many could only dream of attaining.
Let me go back to make sure this is clear. Berklee, and ANY other music program in the world can be good. The problem is more because people think "I'm at Berklee. I know what I'm doing." OR "I'm playing jazz with this hollow body guitar and keeping my look in order, bashing metalheads as often as possible for extra credit" If you can keep your head about you, you can learn a lot. You will have to play things that the teachers like in order to get the grades you want (Meaning, you can't write a shred or metal song that displays the same theory and technique as a jazz standard, and get the grade you deserve), if the past has been any indicator. I have two friends who went to berklee. One has a year left and is taking time off to decide whether or not Berklee is a complete waste of time, and the other decided that he wanted to learn music, but he didn't want to learn only what they wanted him to... he wanted to play what he thought was cool.
Any school is what you make of it. There are merely a lot of outside factors at Berklee, which will contribute to bending you one way or the other, often times to the breaking point (not in a good way). Keep your head about you, your standards held high, and don't be disuaded from what you want out of the school, and you will succeed. Anywhere.
(And people, Berklee is not hard to get into. You learn most things while you're there... not before. What's hard is to get a good scholarship while not playing (jazz) standards. It's statistically harder to get OUT of Berklee, or a lot of people are dropping out... because there are many fewer graduates than incoming students)
Berklee is a very great thing if you remember who you are and what you want.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG. They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground on which idea seeds fall." - Michael Hedges
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:35:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Omega <jw@winternet.com> To: Just Words <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM partial digest 2701 Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970705215115.29411A-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
Oh. So that's what happens when you go into Ack mode... you get a Ytsejam-let.
>From: "Vincent G. Lupone" <vgl@syspac.com> > >Corey Bell wrote: > >The first problem I had was with a friend of mine, who is a Christian, > >who's mother would not allow my bands cd into her house because it > >wasn't Christian.
So take 'Live at the Marquee.' The cover should get you in the door... (Assuming there aren't any alternate covers without the Sacred Heart on them.)
> >This is where my problem begins. I am having trouble seeing how people > >label what is christian and what is not. So with this in mind I > >borrowed some of her music and listened to it and to tell you the truth > >I couldn't really see the difference in the lyrics of her music and > >mine.
Bah. That's true of entire religions, as well as music. I'm Catholic, but my mother's sister married into a Lutheran family, so I've been to a Lutheran wedding, as well as baptisms & such for my 3 cousins. With the exception that Catholic churches have a thing for statues and candles, and Lutherans don't kneel or do the hand motions for the sign of the Cross, an outside observer really couldn't tell the services apart. The difference is in the _belief,_ and that's what's important. If they believe non-Christian music is bad, that's the way it is. It's their belief. > There's a big misconception that I _think_ is sprung out of the Campus > Crusade for Christ (around most college campuses). That misconception is > that if music isn't Christian, then it's working against Christianity.
Hmm... they must be a little milder around UND. I had some classmates that were CCC'ers, and they seemed ok. They look at 'ya kinda weird when you drop an F-bomb, though. There was one down the alley that I played basketball with, and he was usually happy to listen to my music on the court (though he usually brought the Newsboys or DC-Talk or something similar, as well.)
> Would you show him the lyrics from "Surrounded", "Afterlife", "Only a > Matter of Time", and "A Mind Beside Itself" please. Then ask him if he > thinks the band isn't a bunch of Christians :)
Amen! Those are great songs to play for Metal-ain't-Christian nay-sayers... ----------------------- > From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz-McWatters" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>
Try signing that on that little line at the bottom of a check :)
> I'm offended. I live in Texas. [snip]
C'mon, Texas can't be that bad? :)
> But seriously, though, I've been floored by the number of posts regarding > D-man's impostor. I *WILL NOT* put my personal views on gays,
Yay! I'm not the only one... Found that rope, yet, Skadz?
> <DTC> > </DTC>
'Tis is sad day on the 'Jam when we need these. Especially the second one. (Guess that makes me a hypocrite, since this post is just about DT-content-free.) ----------------------- > From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > > > First of all...I have complete independce in 5 limbs. Second of all... > So what you're saying, Mr. Laussade, is that you can play drums with your > penis?
Didn't Animal used to hit cymbals with his head (no, the upper one) on occasion? Or am I just having strange Muppet flashbacks?
--Jay "Or it could just be the E&J" Omega --NP: Marillion - Brave (see the little girl, spirallin' down... <sniff>)
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