YTSEJAM Digest 2693
Today's Topics:
1) Fake Emails ...
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
2) WANTED: Space-Dye Vest MIDI
by Joost Winter <jooft@dra.nl>
3) The Imposter Chronicles
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
4) DT appears in "Strangers in Paradise"! Woo hoo!
by Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
5) Re: Being gay / abusing e-mail addresses
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
6) Woops!
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
7) Natural Predators
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2692
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
9) homosexuality and bad images
by nightcast@usa.net
10) Sheer Accident
by Darla JeRene Anelli <danelli@waonline.com>
11) Damn Yankees
by zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
12) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2687
by Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net>
13) Re: Damn Yankees
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
14) Re: Pro-Life Rock/Metal songs
by Eleuthera Lewis <lewis@NU.cs.fsu.edu>
15) RE:Damn Yankees
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
16) glam..
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
17) gays
by "woot" <woot@crypted.com>
18) Booga!
by Laussade@aol.com
19) No weather?
by Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu>
20) Megadeth and Thrash Metal
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:52:21 -0400
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fake Emails ...
Message-ID: <199707032052.QAA15208@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hi All ...
Just so everyone knows, I am looking in to the fake emails
coming to the jam. I will be sending some email to some admins in the
next day or so to get this taken care of.
Skadz
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 23:02:42 +0200
From: Joost Winter <jooft@dra.nl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: WANTED: Space-Dye Vest MIDI
Message-ID: <33BC136D.19B4993B@dra.nl>
Does anybody have, or know where to find, a MIDI-file to Space-Dye Vest?
----- Unofficial Stratovarius Site:
Jooft http://www.dra.nl/~jooft/stratovarius/
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:05:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Imposter Chronicles
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970703140313.64418E-100000@dante20.u.washington.edu>
> From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
> Subject: Ha ha!!
LOOK!! LOOK!! IT'S THE IMPOSTER!! Wait... No... nevermind...
> Ha ha, to the forger of Chris Merlo's e-mail account... Chris
> doesn't have any current CD orders in to cancel!! All of his CDs were
> just reservations. Joke's on you!
Whoah, I didn't even notice it wasn't from the real Merlo! Good thing we
have people here who can verify the facts. Though I did find it kind of
odd that D-Man was wondering "who wrote that post" when it was obviously
Mike Bahr. Then he got the e-mail address wrong as "goodnet.edu."
> Nice try, trying to get money out of me for nothing. Fat fuckin'
> chance.
HEY!! I HAPPEN TO BE FAT!! YOU CIRCUMFERENCIALIST!!
> Given that I know Chris face to face, this was really fairly amateur of
> you, whoever you are.
Maybe, but I feel I must nod my head to Mystery Poster, like Boba Fett to
the thermal-detonator-holding bounty-hunter from "Jedi." A good move, or
should I say a valiant attempt. Not quite slick enough to be seal-snot,
but slick nonetheless.
> Who are you anyway? My bet is on someone I or Chris have pissed off in
> the past. Jeremy Haynes?
Don't you see? It all adds up. It's Ben Laussade. :)
> Everyone: do NOT trust any e-mail messages from me that are of a
> distinctly contradictory nature to my usual stuff.. most of you know
> me well enough to have a bullshit detector on.
Yes, Mike, it turns on automatically whenever you get within fifty feet.
Like Egon Spengler's PKE (paranormal kinetic energy) meter. ;)
> Forger: why not just quit now. I think it's amusing, but it's no
> laughing matter with Chris. And he has the know-how to really give you
> a rectal weedwhacking, computerwise.
NOOOO, you fool!! It can use that phrase for another "Merlo is homosexual"
tirade!!
Whatever It is, It posted this:
>Whoever you are who posted the King's X overview (I think it was
>someone with the address of durnik@goodnet.edu or something), that
>was a really good breakdown of all of King's X's stuff. I plan on
>grabbing a few of their discs the next time I get some moolah. Too
>much of my money these days is being spent on male hookahs.
^^^^^^^
Maybe it's nothing, but this is how Chris Merlo would pronounce the word
"hookers" in real life. Makes me wonder if the imposter has met him in
real life. Maybe it was that guy who asked that question at the Petrucci
clinic last summer...
Person, to Petrucci: "How can I get rid of that muddy tone down on the low
barre chords?"
Merlo, to Everyone: "Sell ya guitar."
Yeah, I'll bet that guy's been stewing over that smartass remark all this
time...tracked Merlo down and is now insulting him on the mailing list
that was responsible for answering four of Petrucci's questions correctly
and snagging a load of t-shirts...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 17:22:32 -0400
From: Phil Carter <carter@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT appears in "Strangers in Paradise"! Woo hoo!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970703172232.006c76ac@pop.negia.net>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Picked up my comics for the week today. This week's loot included Terry
Moore's "Strangers in Paradise," currently one of my favorites and a
kickass book to boot. If anybody's looking for a REALLY good comic to read,
I recommend this one heartily...
So anyway, I'm flipping through it and come to a scene of a crowded bar,
with music playing in the background. I looked once at the lyrics, then
looked again. No mistake: "Pull Me Under" was playing on the sound system!
Very cool!
For you trivia fanatics out there, these are the lyrics that were weaving
between the characters and word balloons:
"This world is spinning around me, the whole world keeps spinning around
me, all life is future to past, every breath leaves me one less to my last"
then moments later the chorus starts, "Pull me under, pull me under, pull
me under, I'm not afraid"
I always knew Moore had extreme talent (pick up his book and you'll see
what I mean) but now I know he has extremely good taste as well. :)
Cheers,
Phil
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Phil Carter -- carter@negia.net http://www.negia.net/~carter
"Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life."
-- Berthold Auerbach
"Music brings peace to the restless, and comforts the sorrowful. They who
no longer know where to turn find new ways. And those who have despaired,
gain new confidence and love." -- Pablo Casals
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:30:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Being gay / abusing e-mail addresses
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970703172530.15573B-100000@mariner.cris.com>
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, LoneWolf wrote:
> If some fucknuts can't accept
> diversity, then "they are being a dick" (thanks for
> the quote Itchy) :-)
Credit for that famous quote goes to Mr. Chris Ptacek. And for the record,
it's supposed to be "You're being a dick". Thank you.
Interesting thing I noticed the other day at Tower Records here in The
Castro of San Francisco, they have DT cross-listed under "Developing
Artist". How 'bout that?
Rick Audet
Dolby Labs
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:32:01 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Woops!
Message-ID: <199707032132.OAA28331@goodnet.com>
D'oh! In my KX review before, I did indeed forget to include
Goldilox from the OOTSP tracks. My error... my error... please let me
live. :)
Thanks much to all for the insightful followups (keep 'em coming).
They really make great reading. I wonder if we should do this for other
bands too?
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Natural Predators
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970703143453.64418J-100000@dante20.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
> Subject: Bafu Vai :)
>
> Ya know, I'm never gonna forget this ;)~
> hahaha, thanks Steve :)
Of course not. You're Italian. You'll remember the insult forever. You'll
harbor it silently for decades. You'll spend all your free time planning
your revenge. You'll spend your whole life slowly moving the chess pieces
towards checkmate. You'll carry the vengeance to your grave. You'll write
in your will for a descendant to hunt me down. You'll make your grandson
write it in his will for his descendents to eliminate my family line...
And when that descendant finally finds the end of my family line, he'll
find ME WAITING FOR HIM BECAUSE ITALIAN RAGE IS IMMORTAL. ;) ;)
---- > From: Madelaine <maddy@enteract.com> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2688 > > > From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>Uh-oh... Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water...
> Just be careful when you land. ;)
OUCH.
> "Just think, Sarah, if we can reanimate dead flesh, the prosecution's > case is out the window!" > > <<Sniper mode on>>
Right. As if there's a toggle switch. :)
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 14:55:09 -0700 From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2692 Message-ID: <199707032155.OAA19183@ichips.intel.com>
Lonewolf remarked:
>Sorry if I bring up the D-Man subject again. It's out >of question that the guy who did this to Chris is >a complete jerk. However, I'm tired of seeing the jam >go to hell. 80% of it consist of flames, lies, insults, >people fighting each other
Actually, based on the last week or two, I would have to disagree with this assessment. We've had cool concert reviews of QR and Rush, a couple of cool DT sightings and updates on their progress on the studio, Bafu's been posting regularly, Chris "the dick" Ptacek is back, and we've used the one really sore spot lately to do what? Insult D-man! ("who'd want to impersonate _him_, anyway?" =) For the most part everyone has been pretty light-hearted, intelligent, and funny lately (what's WRONG with you people???).
Of course now that I've said this, it's a signal that the quality of the list has peaked, and the stage is set for the whole shebang to slide down into the bowels of hell once again so the cycle can begin anew. Looks like you've gotten us started on that road quite nicely, thank you. ;)
Jim
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 16:03:54 From: nightcast@usa.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: homosexuality and bad images Message-ID: <ww03-BgcwD22875@netaddress.usa.net>
Lonewolf, you are probably referring to me in the 'bad images' department. I can be quoted saying the person who was/is imitating D-man is *trying* to give D-man a bad image. Not succeeding. I myself am 'gayer than a hootie' and am not saying that the person succeeded. D-man has actually earned more respect from me for *maturely* (compared to our imposter) pointing out that this other person wasn't the real him. And I've been on the jam with a few different e-mail addresses for about 3 years, so I have a general idea of what happens here.
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 15:32:20 -0700 From: Darla JeRene Anelli <danelli@waonline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sheer Accident Message-ID: <33BC2874.6F9D@waonline.com>
Has anyone heard of this group? I recently heard "Tearing Down the Berlin Wall" by a group called Shear/Sheer Accident on the radio, but have been unable to find out anything about them.
Kitty ;)
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 14:40:41 EDT From: zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Damn Yankees Message-ID: <19970615.153144.6959.2.zarnoff069@juno.com>
>The band was Damn Yankees. The bandmates in question were >Tommy Shaw >(ex-guitar for Styx, and might be with them again - who can keep track?) >and Jack Blades (ex-bass for Night Ranger - I believe currently picking >his ass and watching TV). Their (DY's, that is) first album was really >good, and I saw them live twice. Their second album didn't do >anything at all for me, though.
Really? I used to listen to Damn Yankees all of the time and I thought their second album, Don't Tread, was much better than their first...
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:32:27 -0400 From: Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2687 Message-ID: <01BC87E3.560C3DA0@bos-ip-2-234.ziplink.net>
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caber1@concentric.net (said): >Hmm, it seems only the cool people are being impersonated. Good thing >I'm a dork! :) Hey the guy with no personality is taking requests?=20
>John is waiting for Bafu Vai to be impersonated, because he probably >already has a seven pages worth of things to say to this guy... :)
If ANYONE could EVER post a message that even REMOTELY resembled any = garble that Bafu has posted here, I would be in a permanent state of = awe. He's got a defense mechanism against imposters: no one can ever = tell what the fuck he's talking about. Anyway I hope this message = doesn't print all that weird shit at the bottom, stupid Microsoft = Exchange. =20
-Misha "What do you do with witches?" --"Buurrrrrrrrrrrrrn 'em!" "And what do you burn apart from witches? -- "Moooooore = witches--"*SMACK!*
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:15:41 +1000 From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Damn Yankees Message-ID: <4A2564C9.007F3196.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
I believe that there was a third 'unofficial' Damn Yankees album that was put out under the name of 'Blades and Shaw' from what I heard it was basically the demo's Jack and Tommy did without Ted for the 3rd DY album that never was. The album is mostly acoustic and more commercial than the 2 DY albums. Yep, Tommy is back in Styx, he sounds great on the new 'Return To Paradise' live album, check it out, it rocks harder than you thought Styx ever could. I have read somewhere that Ted will return onboard for another DY album later this year/early 98.
Graham
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:29:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Eleuthera Lewis <lewis@NU.cs.fsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Pro-Life Rock/Metal songs Message-ID: <199707032329.TAA17362@xi.cs.fsu.edu>
Slayer kicks ass, and thats one of my fav songs off South of Heaven. Overkill did a song on WFO called "They eat their young", I think, its track 4 whatever it is. It isn't pro-life, but Blitz said in an interview that it is anti-abortion, whatever difference that is.
Now back to your regular non-music-content-containing Jam.
Prong Bastard http://vanguard.base.org
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:43:42 +1000 From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: RE:Damn Yankees Message-ID: <4A2564C9.0081B904.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
Oops, I forgot in my last post to mention the the DY also have a rather splendid home video, which includes a live performance from their second tour where Ted gets to do 'Cat Scratch Fever', Tommy 'Renegade' and Jack 'You Can Still Rock America' plus the guys goofing around and pulling the piss outta each other. Though I don;t know if it is still available.
Graham
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:44:16 -0400 (EDT) From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: glam.. Message-ID: <199707032344.TAA20166@osfn.org>
Glam did not "suck." One of glam's early contributors, David Bowie, is proof that it indeed does have talent.. you just need to seperate the crap from the good stuff in glam..
-- We're nothing.. And nothing can help us..
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:19:41 -0600 From: "woot" <woot@crypted.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: gays Message-ID: <199707040021.SAA08466@mailmx.micron.net>
> He didn't tell the truth, but why >the fuck does anyone have a bad image if he/she >is gay ? I am not gay btw,
How convenient. He goes on a big tissy-fit that we hear at least once a week whining about stuff, especially about ppl that are supposedly "gay bashing." Right after this, he makes sure that everyone knows that he is not gay, as if to say that being gay is "bad."
I have strong opinions about homosexuals. i will not say what those opinions are, but can we please lose the weekly "this list sucks for the following reasons: blah blah blah" posts?
finally picked up Eric Johnson's AVM, and am quite impressed so far. I first got Venus Isle and was not all that impressed. Now I'm sure I'll give it a few more listens.
woot
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:13:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Laussade@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Booga! Message-ID: <970703211344_1278350366@emout20.mail.aol.com>
I have returned! Summer boredom has inspired me to resubscribe as a partial replacement for a life. :)
>Hmm, it seems only the cool people are being impersonated. Good thing >I'm a dork! :) Hey the guy with no personality is taking requests?
As for That Wacky Digital Guy being impersonated...I've got $10 that says he's impersonating himself, just so we'll think he's cool. <grin>
I now have to leave, for I'm playing in a wonderful (shitty) production of South Pacific, and the next to last showing is tonight. No, I'm not acting...(why did I say it like that? nobody asked me if I was.) I'm playing horn in the pit orchestra that's not in the pit, but onstage.
Hmm..no .sigs on AOL. My dad made me let him use the Sprynet mail account, even though he never gets any mail. And, I won't list all the CDs in my CD player, because I've got a nifty 25 disc changer. <wakawaka> But, the new Machine Head is great, the new Megadeth is moderately cool, and old Rachmaninoff rules. Adios. :)
Head
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 22:00:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric John Marlett <gt7262a@prism.gatech.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: No weather? Message-ID: <199707040200.WAA01786@acmex.gatech.edu>
> homes with high winds... so I'd like to move somewhere with absolutely > no weather at all. :)
Try the poles. A basic tenet of aviation weather, a subject I have recently become familiar with, is that all weather is the result of heat exchange. Poles = no heat. Hence, no weather. Just bring a lot of sunblock....... ;)
Eric
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Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 23:25:24 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Megadeth and Thrash Metal Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970703231039.5128A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Thu, 3 Jul 1997 Laussade@aol.com wrote:
> Machine Head is great, the new Megadeth is moderately cool, and old
Well, after hearing to the new Megadeth a lot of times, I think that Amorphis' "Elegy" is much better :-) (yes, I bought that a few days back). Cryptic Writings only has some good songs on it. Maybe I was just expectings something very thrashy (this is what you get from hearing those comments on the net) and it was not what I found.
BTW, can you tell me what to expect from the other Amorphis releases??
Back to the Megadeth album, what really surprised me is the fact that I didn't see *ANY* post on the alt.rock-n-roll.metal.megadeth newsgroup about the new album!!
Talking about thrash, it was really a looong time since I had heard "...And Justice for All". I have been hearing to a lot of "softer" music like Mozart's "Eine Kleine Natchmusik", 40th and 41st symphonies and Beethoven's "The Emperor" (his 5th concerto) and melodic heavy metal (Helloween, Angra). I almost forgot how good were those thrash, headbangin' days from Puppets and Justice. Man, "Blackened" is soooooo good! Every time I hear that begining my head starts to move. :-)
But as I said, I'm very much into softer music now.
BTW, I heard that there are a couple bands like Dream Theater's "Images and Words". Can anyone tell me which bands are like this phase of Dream Theater (my preferred, BTW).
Thank you very much for any recommendation, Roger...
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