YTSEJAM Digest 2710
Today's Topics:
1) NASA finds primitive life on Mars in the form of Michael
by Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca>
2) NDTC (Gay thread)
by Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
3) M&M in flames; Moore not to tour; Could you stop it; 14 inch, naah, nevermind
by caber1@concentric.net
4) re: Yngwie Malmsteen
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
5) re: Yngwie / blues
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
6) Music, music, and more music! Some of it even DT!
by "Andrew Forcier"<andrew.forcier@prudential.com>
7) New Address
by Cliff and Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net>
8) Asok the Intern
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
9) Rush
by cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan)
10) FW
by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
11) Rush, APSoG, Yngwie...
by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
12) Ron Thal
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
13) Ben, Jaime, Cute ass, Korg, DT?, MAGGOTS
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 15:12:04 -0400
From: Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NASA finds primitive life on Mars in the form of Michael
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970707151154.007fdbf0@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca>
>You guys may become something someday, you only need to develop your own
thoughts
>and opinions - usually that happens when you become a man if indeed you ever
>really become a man.
Aren't you the one who's a Christian? Last I checked, your religion
develops most of your beliefs and morals for you. I on the other hand
develop my own thoughts, beliefs and opinions. That I am able to do so
individually would suggest that I'm more rational, intelligent, and mature
than you are, would it not? If you're a man, why do you need a religion to
help you form your beliefs?
>This proves that there are rational, intelligent, and mature people on
this list.
>This man suggests that the direction of our society's morals are on a
downward
>spiral. Whatever would make him say such a thing?
Oh, I get how this works. So anyone who feels depressed about society,
feels it is on a downward spiral, believes the apocalypse is near, and all
that other contrived bullshit is "rational, intelligent, mature" and has
formed their own belief? Meanwhile, anyone who thinks otherwise (someone
like me, for example, who doesn't believe society is getting any better or
any worse, just evolving - of course, you don't believe in evolution, do
you...) is stupid and irrational?
Funny that if it weren't for Christian fundamentalists (or whatever the
fuck you are) like you, it wouldn't have taken us as long as it has to have
these missions to Mars. And if you'd had your way, it might never have
happened. Do you realize that if it weren't for the Christian church, and
the way they always invoke "God" to explain the unknown, we'd be living on
Mars right now instead of landing probes on it? And you claim the rest of
us have our priorities backwards?
And you claim YOU'RE the rational, intelligent, mature one ... sure. I've
said it before for years and I'll say it again - if I am being so sinful in
my non-Christian beliefs, I challenge God to strike me down now and send me
to hell. There is no point in him sparing me for a full lifetime, because
nothing is going to change me, or make me believe in God.
(Please note, my comments aren't intended to be anti-Christian, I'm just
pointing out that this Coghlan guy is being extremely hypocritical and
irrational in his reasoning.)
>not a reformed homosexual? I am ignorant, but how much more experience and
>insight do I have than you do about anything I've talked about on the jam?
>I've lived with gays, worked with gays and been friends with gays.
We may not have more experience or insight than you, but what we do have is
some degree of open-mindedness. It takes an awfully closed-minded person
to ignore FACTS (as you are doing when you suggest sexual orientation is a
matter of choice). That you can ignore certain facts shows just how biased
you are. If anything, us younger, more inexperienced people should have
more insight into the subject than you. Tolerenace is not a matter of
experience, it's a matter of open-mindedness.
BTW, why do you think 99% of the people on this mailing list disagree with
you? Why do you think the majority of the people here just don't like you?
Is it because you're better than us? Smarter, more rational than the rest
of us? Is that what you believe?
Lose the condescending attitude. Just because you're older than most
people here does not make you any more qualified to judge people, or talk
down to us. I bet I have a higher IQ than you. Does that make me any more
than an average person on this list? Hell no. If I thought it mattered,
I'd join mensa. Similarly, if you think your age gives you seniority here,
you're wrong, and you should join a fucking senior's list or something.
BTW, I'm not gay, and would everyone please cut out all the Dream Theater
discussion? :)
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:40:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC (Gay thread)
Message-ID: <199707071940.PAA21530@brickbat9.mindspring.com>
Michael Coghlanm (is that how it's spelled?) wrote:
>Think about that mister "in-the-know" when your little child see's two men
>or women doing in public what is generally done by hetros and asks you
>what it's all about. Will you pollute your own flesh and blood's foundation of
>morality by saying "that's OK, they are just two people who love each other
>and by the way it's legal now". We are we all going with all this freedom
>we have?
1) If you want to lie to your kids that's your problem, not ours.
2) Of course you can build hatred on your own kind, if you chose so. The
same kind of hatred that was planted in me by my own parents and my church
and which made me think for years that it was OK to hate gays or anybody
whose way of thinking was different from what the church determined. The
same kind of hatred that made me think I was much less than a human being
just for being who I am as an individual and having my own oppinion.
Don't forget that this Jesus you preach about didn't hang out with the
church leaders of his time (I'm sure he wouldn't hang out with those of this
time either). He hang out with the outcasts, with the foreigners, with
people that were condemned. Like the widows - who were even more of an
outcast than gays are now, because once the husband died, the widow had to
be buried alive with him. And the ones who didn't were hunted down. This is
fact.
I think what this Jesus dude was trying to show is, laws and morals are
made up by humans, and they are worth nothing if not based on love. For love
is the only thing that trully matters.
3) If we chose to have an oppinion that is different from yours, that is our
problem, not yours. If you don't want your kids to see all the things that
YOU don't consider fit for them to see, you're the one that is in fact
throwing them inside a closet and locking them in. But of course, you may do
so, since it is none of my business how you raise your kids.
4) You also go on and compare gays to pedophiles. Hmmmm if you have gay
friends as you say you do, I bet you never told them that. The bottom line
here is: pedophiles harm people. Heterosexuals and homosexuals are also born
the way they are, yet they don't necessarily harm people (not just because
they are homo or heterosexual, at least).
5) All I see in your post is hatred, arrogance and despise. That's all I saw
in my church too, that being the reason why I left. Gee, no wonder when
Jesus actually did enter a church, all he did was create havok and break all
those little shoppes down!
And this one goes to woot. If you're straight, how can you possibly know if
it is a matter of choice to be gay or not? Well, if you're not black and you
choose to close your eyes to all scientific facts, you might as well think
it is a matter of choice to be black.
Finally, Mr Mike Bahr, it is NOT valid to say that even if someone has a
hateful and prejudiced oppinion, it is Ok because they at least act on what
they believe. Remember, Nazis and the KKK also act on what they believe.
Does that make their point valid? IMHO, all you said is, "mr. Coghlanm's
point is valid because it I agree with it", not because he believes in it.
I don't have anything against woot or Mike Bahr. In fact, I love reading
their posts when they talk about music.
Well, I'm not feeling guilty for continuing this thread.
Remember, it's all about love, not hatred. Live another day, climb a little
higher.
Christian.
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:55:02 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: M&M in flames; Moore not to tour; Could you stop it; 14 inch, naah, nevermind
Message-ID: <33C165B6.34A2@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
> Subject: DIE!!!
> YOU SPOONFED US SATURDAY MORNING MOUTHFULS OF MAGGOTS AND LIES DISGUISED
> IN YOUR SUGARY BREAKFAST CEREALS. THESE PLATES YOU MADE US CLEAN WERE
> FILLED WITH YOUR FEARS. THESE THINGS HAVE HARDENED IN OUR SOFT PINK
> BELLIES. WE ARE WHAT YOU HAVE MADE US. WE HAVE GROWN UP WATCHING YOUR
> TELEVISION. WE ARE A SYMPTOM OF YOUR CHRISTIAN AMERICA, THE BIGGEST SATAN
> OF ALL. THIS IS YOUR WORLD IN WHICH WE GROW. AND WE WILL GROW TO HATE
> YOU.
I can see the flames now...
---> From: Thrak75@aol.com > Subject: can i get a witness????????
> now YO!!!!!! CHECK THIS OUT! SOME MUTHAFUCKER GIVE A SUCKA A HAND! > can someone confirm or deny to me once and for all that km is playing with > fates on the new tour? i've heard nothing about it, and i really want to > know....thank you.
I read an interview with Ray Alder, and, he said that they'll be getting another keyboardist for the tour, some studio type guy. :( The interview is at http://members.aol.com/thekoffin or something very close to that. Just click into part 1 of the Koffin. :)
> fuck all you healthy people.
Still can't get your jimmy wet? ;)
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> From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2694 (NDTC)
Seriously stop it!
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> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> > Subject: I'm Out of Control!
Holy smokes, that was long! :)
This quote goes out to all you married people!
"I pulled away from the side of the road, glanced at my mother-in-law, and headed for the embankment." Accident Reports from Insurance Forms :)
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 15:42:10 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: Yngwie Malmsteen Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+1IIknA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: No Snickers Bridge/Poontangawana > >What has happened is that all of the great guitarists > that emerged between '84 and '91 or so (at least on > Shrapnel) have really been unfairly lumped together.
True. It seemed like everyone came out of the woodwork after Yngwie hit the US. Guitar magazine called him the second most-"cloned" guitarist of the 80's (after Van Halen). Outside of maybe Tony MacAlpine, Vinnie Moore, Paul Gilbert and a few others, everyone else seemed like carbon copies of Yngwie. I saw him perform about two years ago and he has definitely changed - he's fat, has a bit less hair, doesn't fly across the stage as much as he used to and just didn't seem to have the ability to "knock you on your ass" anymore. Still, I'm glad that he still puts out the neo-classical stuff because everyone else seems to have moved on to other avenues (Kotzen w/Poison, Friedman w/Megadeth, Gilbert w/Mr Big, etc...)
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 15:52:59 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: Yngwie / blues Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+5QIknA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> >Subject: Yngwie > > BTW, I hate when Yngwie plays blues
I agree - he should lay off the Jimi Hendrix tunes. I think he gets pressured into playing "bluesy" when his critics say he plays with no emotion. This point annoys me to no end. I don't think you have to play slow bends to show emotion. When I hear Yngwie play one of his patented scalar runs, my knees buckle...thats EMOTION!!! He should just stick with what comes naturally to him.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:16:17 -0400 From: "Andrew Forcier"<andrew.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Music, music, and more music! Some of it even DT! Message-ID: <852564CD.006B7A59.00@njros1ngw04.metro.prudential.com>
Hello, I feel like wasting some more of my company's time. Anyone see a problem with that? Heheh... Falling into Infinity? Sounds just elitist enough to keep the Jam right at the number of subscribers we have now. Sounds familiar though. Almost like I saw it before. But then I've been known to hallucinate after long periods of reading insurance and training materials. That and a can of Mountain Dew, complete with MEGA MOUTH, and a guy can have himself a pleasant little mirage in the middle of the work day. For some reason, I'm now trying to remember the theme to the Smurfs. But back to the subject at hand... So I got my discs from Rick Audet. Can I get a "Whoooooooaaaaaa, Rick!"? Clones of Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams, now that he has originals. I have to maintain that I cannot believe that is Charlie Dominici on the Carry That Weight cover. He's actually singing with emotion and power. Are you sure that wasn't someone's audition tape Mike? Maybe Collins, or Hendricks? I dunno. Eve with samples, cool. Can't understand some of them though. Maybe I'll check the FAQ. Or should I just ask the list and generate some flamage? At least it would be DT based flames. And so far I'm still saying the ACOS on the ACOS disc is BY FAR the best one. The acoustic opening and closing is so much better than the original opening. Gives it far more of an epic feel. Also got some tapes from Mr. Swifty, also a big "Whoooooaaaaa!" for Mark here. A Rush boot from 1980. Hoo boy is this great! Geddy announcing The Spirit of Radio as if the crowd doesn't know it from the first few notes. Boy how things change in 17 years... Nice little By-Tor/Xanadu medley too. And I haven't even gotten to La Villa on the second side. Happy to have this baby in the cassette player in the ol' Cavalier! Also got the Milan 1993 DT show, haven't listened, but eagerly anticipating the full LtL live. The QR Socorro show is cool, but the songs sound the same as the album versions. QR is starting to be more like Rush live: just play it straight and put on a good light and screen show, and make sure the lead singer avoids those high notes. Not that I'm complaining... This brings up an interesting point: Did Rush fans in 1981 and 1982 start to dislike Rush because they stopped playing long intricate songs and the vocals didn't hit those highs? Nope. Some strayed, but they gained many more fans overall. Funny how when QR does the same thing, their fans yearn for the olden days of screeching and eight minute Suites (Sister Mary). Sure Rush was still progressive on Signals, but I would maintain QR is just as prog on HitNF. But that's a big fat IMHO for ya... Also, got the Lie single. God, that Lie edit brings back memories of actually hearing DT on the radio. It was great hearing the edit version for like two weeks thinking it was soooooo awesome, then when the album came out, hearing that ripping solo at the end. Heh, more evidence that radio sucks. And the studio version of To Live Forever doesn't hold a candle to some of the live versions, but the extra lyrics are cool. Ooops, another IMHO slipped in there! Also, got the DTIFC disc. They definitely improved Barney's vocals from what I heard on the Uncovered boot. And Red Hill sounds much better too. Doesn't sound like James did any overdubs on this one, Petrucci definitely didn't do any. You can still hear the slight mistakes in Damage, Inc. Very nice. I prefer raw and untouched. Also, got Antiquities. Still listening to this one, and got the disc on the way. So that solo at the end of TtT has a title, eh? The Mists of Evening? Nice to know. Aside from that, have to get to the second side of it. Enough alsos... I have nothing really to contribute to any current thread. Not that I saw any threads. I should go into ack mode so I can wade through all of this more easily. Or just strap on a set of knee-high rubber wading boots... Make those hip-high... And I'd contribute to that top ten favorite bands list, but I can't limit myself to ten favorites. So many decisions, a million revisions... Oh, and I can tell Bafu reads Roger Ebert. That "irony of Con-Air" quote was ripped straight from one of his reviews. Unless maybe Roger stole it from someone else. Shit, this was a long post.
Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers andrew.forcier@prudential.com
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:20:20 -0600 From: Cliff and Pam Wheaton <cwheaton@micron.net> To: "taxi-l@freenet.mb.ca" <taxi-l@freenet.mb.ca> Subject: New Address Message-ID: <33C14F84.B71B009D@micron.net>
It is now official. We have become http://www.TransWestTaxi.com/~cwheaton. E-Mail will reach us at: cwheaton@TransWestTaxi.com. I hope this works and does not upset anyone with all these addresses. I have never tried to send to multiple addresses before.
Cliff, Boise Idaho USA
-- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace
</__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o “THE INTERNET” 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton@TransWestTaxi.com
URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com/~cwheaton ******************************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:29:18 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Asok the Intern Message-ID: <199707072029.NAA18276@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Lisa Marie <peterson@fore.com> > >>I recently got A Farewell To Kings from Rush...took me a few listens but im >>starting to get into it now... any other suggestions for my next cd purchase? > >Hmmm... I would suggest "Presto" or "Hold Your Fire". No particular reason, >they're just two of my faves, so I thought I'd share that with ya :o)
Well, I'll go for "Hold Your Fire." That's my favorite album of Rush's...and, in fact, my favorite album, period. "Permanent Waves" and "Moving Pictures" have the greatest number of radio staples. If you like hanging on a melody, "Presto" and "Roll The Bones" probably feature Geddy in his finest voice. "Hemispheres" and "2112" are progressive classics -- they sandwich the previously mentioned "A Farewell to Kings," which I actually like a little LESS than the other two, but it's debatable. Rick's right, though -- "Presto" and "Hold Your Fire" are a big leap from "A Farewell to Kings."
>From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> > >Hmmm... is that the way the general public really feels? I know I love >Odyssey as much, if not more, than Trilogy. However Marching Out is still >by far my favorite Yngwie album. My least favorite and least listened to >are Eclipse and Fire & Ice, possibly because when these albums came out, >any time I wanted to hear Yngwie I'd still put in one of the first 4 >albums, since they had already achieved 'classic' status, in my book. I >guess I never even gave Eclipse or F&I a chance, because Marching Out kept >going in my deck. Also, since Marching Out was the album that got me into >Yngwie, I rarely play the first album, instead reaching for MO, Trilogy, >and Odyssey. BTW, I hate when Yngwie plays blues. I listen to him for a >good dose of neo-classical, and it's best when accompanied by Jens Johansson.
Hmmm...I think "Rising Force" is generally pointed at as Yngwie's best work. At the very least, it was the most pivotal, as he was pretty much just that fast guy in Alcatrazz before that -- he actually ran into a broader listening public on "Rising Force." You can argue for either of the next two, I suppose, as his "best" as assessed by his fans. I, too, like "Odyssey" quite a lot and I really think it's the overlooked album of his because "Heaven Tonight" and, to a lesser extent "Rising Force," were very commercial-sounding (I actually like both of those songs, especially the latter) and alienated fans who wanted to hear him wail. The same people, I suppose, who have condemned Satriani for singing on "Flying in a Blue Dream."
I'll go half-way with you on his blues playing. I think there are a lot of guys...Vinnie Moore, for one....who have that neo-classical background and play the blues better than Yngwie. Still, I like when he hits some blue notes in the middle of his modal playing. Chris Impelliteri came up earlier, and I think that's one place where he's lacking. He plays light speed, but because he's basically running up and down a couple of modes, it loses some of its impact. Eric Johnson doesn't play nearly THAT fast, but because of his intervallic movement, it has a more propulsive feel to it. Impelliteri's still ridiculously fast...he's fun to listen to for pure spectacle.
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Steve Vai: Passion and Warfare 2. Cream: Wheels of Fire (Disc 1) 3. Cream: Wheels of Fire (Disc 2) 4. King's X: Ear Candy 5. Dream Theater: Live at the Marquee
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:40 -0700 From: cluesump@sirius.com (Charoenkwan Luesumphan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush Message-ID: <v01520d01afe705e38940@[205.134.235.40]>
<DragynLMC3@aol.com> wrote: > >I recently got A Farewell To Kings from Rush...took me a few listens but im >starting to get into it now... any other suggestions for my next cd purchase?
IMHO, should be Hemispheres, 2112 and A Farewell to kings. All albums in their 70's are worth listening.
AE
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:48:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FW Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970707164540.12466A-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997 caber1@concentric.net wrote:
> I read an interview with Ray Alder, and, he said that they'll be getting > another keyboardist for the tour, some studio type guy. :( The interview > is at http://members.aol.com/thekoffin or something very close to that. > Just click into part 1 of the Koffin. :)
The keyboardist on tour with fates is Ed Roth.
Brandon
NOW PLAYING: ^^^ ^^^^^^^
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones: live art
William Ackerman: imaginary roads
King's X: Gretchen goes to Nebraska
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:52:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush, APSoG, Yngwie... Message-ID: <199707072052.QAA13531@umbc8.umbc.edu>
> <DragynLMC3@aol.com> said... > > > >I recently got A Farewell To Kings from Rush...took me a few listens but im > >starting to get into it now... any other suggestions for my next cd purchase?
Well, if you have "Kings", you MUST get "Hemispheres." I like "Permanent Waves." For newer stuff, go w/ "Power Windows." I highly recommend everything from "Presto" to "Test For Echo." And, "2112" is necessary for everyone. This is all, of course, IMO.
> >I must admit, even though I shall now be emailed to death, that A > >Pleasant Shade Of Gray was just not my thing... Oh well... > > Before you give up on it, try listening to it in the dark with headphones > on... > I liked it immediately, but I really began to love it after I spent an > afternoon > with it under headphones :o)
It also helps when it's grey or drizzling outside.
A few nights ago, it actually made me cry. Part VI. The lyrics and vocal melody, the buildup to the big chorus--wow, Jim. and that SOLO! It takes guts to be able to play like Jim and NOT shred that solo <although I know he's not the greatest>. He's really feeling every note. He put a lot of care into that solo, and he means every note.
KAI said:
> and Odyssey. BTW, I hate when Yngwie plays blues. I listen to him for a
Me too, usually. I think on Bad Blood on Seventh Sign he's getting there. He's actually doing some WAILING in the solo and not just shredding on blues scales. then on Magnum Opus, there is nary a blues track. I love to listen to him play, though.
Steve Z
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Date: 07 Jul 97 13:54:15 -0700 From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ron Thal Message-ID: <199707072213.PAA26655@mailsun2.us.oracle.com>
After hearing some guitaristic praise for Ron Thal on the jam (in between discussions of being gay, religion, etc) I picked up the disc "Hermit" from a used bin recently. I must say that Ron's solos are frighteningly good - the man can PLAY. However, the songs themselves caught me way off guard. Some sound a little, dare I say, grungy.. And a couple tunes are very reminiscent of Rage Against the Machine. I have to spend some more time letting this disc sink in, but I know I definitely love the *solos*. Can anyone out there (oh no, I said "out") who is more familiar with Ron Thal let me know if his other album(s) are similar? Or does he tread the more familiar territory of instrumental fusion (a la Greg Howe, Tony MacAlpine, etc)? thanks, -Neil. "When the rest have packed it up, I'm alive... electric... inspired... Naturally Wired!" -Van Halen, A.F.U.-
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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 00:06:33 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Dream Theater mailinglist my ass'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ben, Jaime, Cute ass, Korg, DT?, MAGGOTS Message-ID: <01BC8B35.9E718AA0@McCoy.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
> From: Laussade@aol.com > To: ytsejam@ax.com > Subject: I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks
Awesome, Ben :-) Glad yer back ! _____
From: Jaime Kimpton <jkimpton@nfx.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Better late than never...
Thanks Jaime, great post. _____
> Superior - Behind
That title always makes me think of an awesomely cute ass. :-) But that's probably just my perverted brain working overtime... _____
KorgX3 wrote :
> Hrm... Sage advice folks. Bashing a guy for a vague opinion of what > causes homosexuality only to turn around and place his own vague idea > of homosexuality? Hypocrisy perhaps? I think so.
Thanks for calling me a hypocrite. My view was based on stuff I heard from gay people. At least I bothered to hear what they *have* to say, before making up my mind about them. Hypocrite, my ass. _____
Nigel Bridgeman wrote :
> 2. There's going to be a DT album released in just over two months. > Why aren't we talking about this?
What's a DT ? _____
George Farber shouted :
> YOU SPOONFED US SATURDAY MORNING MOUTHFULS OF MAGGOTS AND LIES > DISGUISED IN YOUR SUGARY BREAKFAST CEREALS. THESE PLATES YOU MADE US > CLEAN WERE FILLED WITH YOUR FEARS. THESE THINGS HAVE HARDENED IN OUR > SOFT PINK BELLIES. WE ARE WHAT YOU HAVE MADE US. WE HAVE GROWN UP > WATCHING YOUR TELEVISION. WE ARE A SYMPTOM OF YOUR CHRISTIAN AMERICA, > THE BIGGEST SATAN OF ALL. THIS IS YOUR WORLD IN WHICH WE GROW. AND WE > WILL GROW TO HATE YOU.
So, basically you wanna know how to unsubscribe... Why didn't you say so in the first place ?
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