YTSEJAM Digest 2723
Today's Topics:
1) Undepressing & Mike Bahr Bootlegs
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
2) Re: My idea of Mood Songs
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
3) Ouch!!!, Dream Thee Ay Tur, Am I going nuts?
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
4) Gratuity, MORE Con-Air
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
5) Pointlessity
by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
6) More Gratuity, Top Jammaz
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
7) General Skadberg Takes No Prisoners
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
8) Mumblings and jumblings
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
9) Digital Man
by Jrobert314@aol.com
10) Help!
by "Kim Granieri" <kgranieri@msn.com>
11) Mood Song, Korgistotle, Imposter Madness
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) Lotsa stuff...
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 03:57:34 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Undepressing & Mike Bahr Bootlegs
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970709034936.26257A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
Well, just thought what I use as a recipe to get better:
- Metallica's "Master of Puppets" (it *never* fails);
- Metallica's "To Live is To Die";
- Metallica's "The Call of Ktulu";
- Slayer's "Dittohead" (I can't understand a word of what Tom says
on the first 30 seconds :-) ).
Ok. Now to something completely different: I just wanted some
opinions about which Mike Bahr CDs (Dream Theater) have the best sound
quality. I plan to buy some now, but I'm quite short on cash. So I thought
that I'd buy only two or three now. I'll really appreciate any kind of
comments concerning sound quality and contents (I have just seen his
homepage and some of the discs have "Under a Glass Moon"; I already have
zillions of copies of this song on other bootlegs, but I'd consider
getting another copy if it has good sound quality and/or different
soloes).
So, I'd appreciate if you could (perhaps) rank the discs according
to your preferences. If you don't want to pollute the jam, please, send an
e-mail to <rbrito@ime.usp.br> (although I think that other jammers may be
interested in these kind of comments).
Thank you very much for any opinions, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 04:08:53 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: My idea of Mood Songs Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970709040743.26257C-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Brandon Elhai wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Nicole R. Stachowicz McWatters wrote: > > > Hey! :) I've got a slightly different spin on what I like to listen to > > pick myself up. :) But that goes without saying. But when I want to > > soundtracks. Those who know me can understand that. ;) More > > "Philadelphia." If "La Mamma Morta" doesn't make me cry, nothing will. :') > > Oh, and my new hubby Ken wants to add somthing. :) > > Dionyzus here. :) I just wanted to say that they may not have originated > > when I'm down. :) > > Happy 'Jamming! :) > > Jeez Nicole. Are you always happy or something? I think I count 7 smileys.
Maybe you should be on a bad mood and start your Mathematics courses again... :-)
[]s almost always happy, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 03:07:56 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Ouch!!!, Dream Thee Ay Tur, Am I going nuts? Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970709025331.10049K-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > Subject: Do I talk too much? > > Pooh. Half the World sounds like Hootie and the Blowfish with Geddy > singing <which of course, is only marginally better than Hootie and the > Blowfish>.
This comment actually physically hurt. I got a severe headache after reading that, and I had to get away from the computer for about ten minutes. Half The World is my favorite TFE song (though Totem is a really close second). It's no 2112 or anything (and I *do* think that guy is the only one that dislikes that song), but it's a Good Rock Song. It's sparse enough to let Ged go nuts, basswise. I thought Alex had a really nice, aggresive tone on it. Neil... is just Neil.
But to compare Ged's voice with Spootie... OK, so it's funny as shit. It's still bad and wrong. :)
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> From: Uncle Dave <uncle.dave@asu.edu> > Subject: Kevin George Labrie Jones > > can _you_ name your favorite dt country song?
How about Caught In A Lasso? The Killing Hand-Me-Down? A Fortune In Truck Repairs?
How about To Live Forever? I hear it's got some damned good harmonies.
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OK, optical illusion time. Everyone get out your I&W cd, and look at the back of the case, where it lists the titles of the songs. Is it just me, or is "Learning To Live" in a larger font than the rest of the songs?
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Gratuity, MORE Con-Air Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970709000636.52592D-100000@dante15.u.washington.edu>
> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> > Subject: Asok the Intern > > 1. Steve Vai: Passion and Warfare > 4. King's X: Ear Candy > 5. Dream Theater: Live at the Marquee
Let it be known that this is the first time I've ever had THREE of the albums on Adam's list of gratuity.
---- > From: "Andrew Forcier"<andrew.forcier@prudential.com> > Subject: Music, music, and more music! Some of it even DT! > > Oh, and I can tell Bafu reads Roger Ebert. That "irony of Con-Air" > quote was ripped straight from one of his reviews. Unless maybe Roger > stole it from someone else.
I'm still ten 'jams behind, but this statement makes it obvious that Mr. Forcier hasn't actually seen "Con-Air."
What I quoted was from the movie "Con-Air." It's said by Steve Buscemi, who plays a Hannibal Lecter-esque mass murderer/cannibal. He's the highest intellect in the movie. I couldn't help but admire him for his restraint during a certain scene, in which he chose not to mutilate a small girl in a trailer park when there were no consequences or constraints present. Such morality in a Godless environment is very rare in this day and age, as evidenced by the obvious downward spiral society is caught in.
I don't read Roger Ebert, much like I don't read movie reviews by anyone, but if Mr. Ebert put that line in his review, he was quoting from the movie. Go see the movie. Nowhere will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Not to mention the torrential circus of explosions.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 04:48:23 -0400 From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pointlessity Message-ID: <199707090848.EAA12461@darkstar.icdc.com>
>Is there anyone out there that owns stuff from Angra, Shadow Gallery, >Superior, Stratovarius, and some of the other "great" bands I've been >hearing about on the jam?
Sounds like Ytse Tape Trade time again, non, petits? <in Gambit-voice>
>>SCOTT HENDERSON: Having only one Tribal Tech album, I don't feel like I know >>enough about Scott to analyze his work.
When Adam Schott and I ran for President of the U.S. last year, our main competition for the nomination of the Brass Sabre Party (you know, the one fighting for the rights of third trumpets, and also for free sandwiches) was the Crazy-Pants/Scott Henderson ticket. Schott/Henderson vs. Crazy-Pants and Scott Henderson. The competition was fierce, lemme tell ya... Luckily, the shifty Crazy-Pants got disheartened with politiks in general and dropped out of the running. End of story.
Does anyone have the Spastic Ink CD? Is the album as good as the sound samples on the web page?
And while I'm asking questions, why does Savatage's "Gutter Ballet" say "Explicit Lyrics -- Parental Advisory" on the back? I can't find any, unless you'd count the word "bitch" in "Of Rage And War", or maybe the innuendos and such in "She's In Love"... I hear worse on "Friends" (along with that index-finger-to-thumb-rule, of course).
Brian Henderson, Thorazine Cyberburlap Cyberburlap@icdc.com
"I'm so excited, all six of my nipples are tinglin'!" -- The Creature That Evolved From The Ship's Cat
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More Gratuity, Top Jammaz Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970709005518.52592H-100000@dante15.u.washington.edu>
> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> > Subject: A Separate Peace > > 2. Van Halen: Fair Warning > 4. Melissa Etheridge: Yes I Am > 5. Metallica: Master of Puppets
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!! Three albums!! I'm on a roll!! Of Fuji 100!! The greatest most colorful high-detailed film in the world!! Someone get Sarah McLachlan on the phone!! I'll chronicle the Lilith Fair tour for free!!
---- > From: impostor@wee.wee > To: undisclosed-recipients:; > Message-ID: <199707072244.RAA27233@cgi.why.net> > > YTSEJAM'S FIRST TOP YTSEJAMMER LIST > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I thought "top" lists were outlawed 'round these parts.
> Best entertainment------------------------------------------------- > - Bafu Vai - This guy needs to write for Conan O'Brien or something. > I can't get over how well he translates every issue on the Jam into > something humorous.
If memory serves, which it usually does, Michael Coghlan doesn't think to highly of Conan O'Brien. So you might want to watch out when you go throwing this stuff around, okay?
Then again, Michael Coghlan is also the guy who said the reason DT didn't play "Scarred" on the entire Awake tour was because they "couldn't." Something about "studio tricks, they don't have the skill, it'll never happen, etc." Guys, if THAT'S not enough to make you take everything he says with a grain of salt, you're in for a long argument. You're doomed to argue with him until the cows come home. And with RipZero off the list, they'll probably be roaming around the pastures a little while longer.
> Most intelligent poster-------------------------------------------- > - Michael Coghlan - Like it or not, you supposed "99% of the Jam" who > are against him, he's a smart guy.
Yeah yeah, so was Loki and look what he got. Banishment from Valhalla.
Now that I think about it, Coghlan WAS banished from Ytsejam long ago...
> I'm talking to you, too, D-Man.
The only reason this line was in his post is because his physical location is completely unknown to Chris Merlo...whose mafia buddies are probably dying for an assignment by now...
> Least class--------------------------------------------------------- > - Scott Cook - As one Jammer put it, he writes "childish swearing and > death threats." Makes me ashamed to be a Jammer sometime.
HAHAHAHAAA!! Truly, the observer sees the chess game more clearly than the players!! (I love ya, Scott!)
> Most class---------------------------------------------------------- > - Mike Bahr - This guy would be a great Christian. Persecution > slides off his back like water off Bafu.
Are you saying my entire body is like Mike Bahr's back?? Would someone who's met both of us in real life verify that I'm not THAT hairy??
> Dumbest bunch of cattle--------------------------------------------- > - Most of the Ytsejam - It's too easy sometimes. I even surpassed > my own expectations. I'd say, 50% of the last 37 Jams have been > about me or homosexuality.
And you suppose that YOU are the one who unlocked the hidden homosexual desires of the otherwise heterosexual mailing list known as The Ytsejam? As far as I'm concerned you're just ripping off that Carl Jung guy... Just like me and Roger Ebert...
> Thank you for your time. I wish I could think of more awards to give. > Those of you who didn't make the list this time, there's hope for next > time. :)
Best Panty-Sniffing Clown------------------------------------------- - You all know who goes here.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:57:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: General Skadberg Takes No Prisoners Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970709005546.52592I-100000@dante15.u.washington.edu>
Did anyone else notice how the imposter said "dumbest bunch of cattle" instead of "most corrupt goatherd?" That proves it ISN'T sloppyjoe69! Bafu Vai, SUPER GENIUS!! :)
---- > From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> > Subject: ARGH!!! > > If you start/particpiate in/continue/think about a post about any of > the following topics (which will be updated from time to time) you will > be automatically kicked off the list and banned permanently. A warning > system is just stupid and takes too much of my time:
YES!! Skadz is laying down the law!! The day of atonement hath arrived!!
> 1) Sexual Orientation > 2) Religion > 3) Blind Melon > 4) NIN > 5) Metallica selling out > 6) Top 10 Lists > 7) Jokes
JOKES?! "No joking allowed!! This means YOU, fanboy!! Hey, stop making fun of my incessant smoking blocking out the sunlight above Boston!!"
> 8) Any other long completely off-topic discussion
Looks like it's time to unsubscribe. 8) is about 85% of everything I've ever posted. Hey Skadz, in the meantime can you make me a mudslide? I've got some ice cream in my car...
> No, I will not take requests.
Ah, shucks... Howabout a few bars of Rush's "Free Will?" Come on, you know the words!
> No, I will not take requests.
Geez! What about some somersaults?? Everybody loves a friendly game of Twister!!
> No, I will not take requests.
Dammit!! You're no fun...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 18:38:26 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mumblings and jumblings Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970709183826.00687fb8@powerup.com.au>
Greetings,
Mood songs:
In My Darkest Hour, Megadeth; Goodbye to Romance, Ozzy (this is a definate frontrunner to be played at my funeral); Afterimage, Rush; Blind, Galactic Cowboys; almost anything from Faith Hope Love, King's X; Shine On You Crazy Diamond, Pink Floyd.
Well, that's all from me. Cheerio.
Love, Spiff
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 05:13:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Jrobert314@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Digital Man Message-ID: <970709051358_192221345@emout08.mail.aol.com>
I just had to respond to d man's response to that guy who condemned homosexuals. I'm sure you're going to hate me for it, but it's not my fault you people are intolerant.
>"Don't put forth an effort to be politically correct"? No, Mike, you're >an ignorant, hateful, tasteless asshole who has no place on this list.
I think it is plain to see who the hateful one is.
>A lot of things would be nice, Mike. It would be nice if you were to stop >judging people based on what they do when you're not around. It would be >nice if you were to stop judging people based on biological differences >between you and them. It would be nice if you were to stop judging >people. You're merely another man, Mike. No better or worse than the >rest of us. You have no place sitting in judgment of others.
Couple of things here. First, D-Man condemns Mike for the very thing that he himself is doing, namely, judging. What a hypocrite! He says Mike should stop judging others, but dman is the very one who calls him an asshole. Then he says mike is no worse than the rest of us, contradicting everything else he writes. Also, the science geek should get acquainted with the facts. There is no conclusive evidence that homosexuality is caused by a biological difference. Even if there were, it doesn't make it right. I mean some heterosexuals want more than than their wife,but it doesn't make a difference that it is caused by a biological mechanism. Or violence is caused by testosterone, but that doesn't make it right. People need to take responsibilities for their own actions instead of blaming it on society and genetics. >>If you were to honestly, with mild determination >>consider all the facts about homosexuality most of you would conclude that this is >>is a perversion [one of many] of humanity. Now I know some may take objection >>to this commentary, I can appreciate that, but before you flame look at this >What I take objection to is the fact that you refer to your "commentary" >as "facts." There are no facts about homosexuality that lead to this
Mike doesn't refer to his commentary as facts, he calls it a commentary and asks people to consider the facts.
>Is "passi" a word? I don't have my Ignorant-Redneck-to-English dictionary
How mature, D-Man. I guess anyone doesn't agree with your point of view is an ignorant redneck who sleeps with his sister. But then again what's wrong with that? I mean what people do in their own bedroom is none of my business, right?
>The term "gay-bashing" no longer refers only to violence. It now refers >to any hateful action against people because they're gay. For instance, >wishing that all gay people would go back into the closet and lock the >door is an example of gay bashing. Prick.
How is wishing that gay people remain private hateful? For it to be hateful, the person doing the wishing would actually have to be filled with hate. I can wish gay people would remain private and not try to force their lifestyle on the rest of us without being hateful, can't I? I suppose if I didn't want to know who sucks dick that would be dicksucker-bashing.
>>"fix" or change anything for the better. I can accept the [gay] person as a person, >>I just can't accept the lifestyle. >Do you know that that makes no sense? Yeah, I know, dumb question.
Dumb question indeed, because it does make sense. For example, I can accept liars as people and deal with them on a regular basis, but I don't accept the lifestyle and wouldn't like it if they tried to promote lying. We all have our faults, as D-Man seems to indicate, but we should still be able to accept other people, even if they have different beliefs or lifestyles.
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 09:13:00 UT From: "Kim Granieri" <kgranieri@msn.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Help! Message-ID: <UPMAIL05.199707090919310998@msn.com>
Hi!
I'm sorry to bug you all, but I've been on this list so long, I've forgotten how I got here, AND how to unsubscribe!!!
I am changing this address to my business only address, and moving my mailing list subs to another address.
Can someone PLEASE help me? I need the unsubscribe command and address, and the resubscribe command and address...
Thank You!
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 05:03:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Wet Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mood Song, Korgistotle, Imposter Madness Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970709050223.55610D-100000@dante17.u.washington.edu>
> From: eckie@asu.edu > Subject: Mood Songs > > I'm wonderin' what songs are out there that ppl listen to when they > feel they're in the shitter, tha dumps, really low 'n shit. Something > to bring you up or just keep your mind preoccupied to prevent the > really bad thoughts to start churning.
Nuno Bettencourt has a great song on his album "Schizophonic" called "The Pursuit of Happiness." Hopeful in a melancholy sort of way, like Seal.
Oh yeah, this is a rhythmically-heavy album for anyone wondering about Nuno's solo project. Not many flashy guitar solos, but it sounds fine to me. Let's just say I listen to this more than I listen to The Spice Girls. And for the life of me I can't decide who's hotter, Nuno or that sultry Victoria...
---- > From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> > Subject: Die? Not yet.
Marvelous post. Most profound, would make an excellent intro to an album of progressive metal. :)
---- > From: imposter@wee.wee > Message-ID: <199707080055.UAA03592@frobnitz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I'm a looser and I listen to Spice Girls. > > Two can play that game fuckface
Okay, is there someone impersonating the imposter now?! Is this D-Man? Was the Ytsejammer Awards post from an imposter-impersonater? Is this post from the real impersonater, who's really pissed off that someone's impersonating him? "Frobnitz" sounds like something from one of the Zork games...
Bafu Vai
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Date: 9 Jul 97 15:12:09 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi> To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Lotsa stuff... Message-ID: <0021D8710200000101003B4555042E@mlespser1001.metsaliitto.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids of dubious sexuality plus the rest,
Buck Stodgers about mood music:
>about? Well these albums each have songs that reflect various moods of >mine, mostly based on the despair for loss of female accompaniment >(okay, getting dumped). Forever Blue does it for me every time. It has
"Forever Blue" always gets you dumped? Perchance you should stop listening to it... :)
- - - Steven C. Young:
>Is there anyone out there that owns stuff from Angra, Shadow Gallery, >Superior, Stratovarius, and some of the other "great" bands I've been >hearing about on the jam? I'd like to find someone that owns at least
I suggest you take a glimpse at our trading page at http://www.personal.eunet.fi/pp/jvp. You just might find ALL of those in there. Plus some others too. I'll dub 'em for ya all right.
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The impostor calls himself T.I.T.T.Y., huh? I bet he looks more like a P.I.M.P.L.E....
- - - Is Stratovarius actually approaching the top in Ytse-Survey II? Yay! Will Superior keep their #13 spot from the latest survey? Everyone, VOTE NOW!!
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For the South-American jammers: Stratovarius' Timo Kotipelto asked me who will be playing in the Brazilian "Monsters of Rock" and he said there's a chance they will perform there too. Timo Tolkki flew yesterday to Brazil to do some interviews, but the gigs are still unconfirmed. Also, there's a possibility they are going to play two gigs in Argentine.
It is now confirmed that Elegy and Conception WILL be supporting Stratovarius on their European tour.
"pRRRRKELE!" -Marco Hietala, Tarot-
_Mape_
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