YTSEJAM digest 2720

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Date: Tue Jul 08 1997 - 20:29:52 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: New songs and a YtseCon
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
      2) Misc. inquiery from the low end
     by fish69@juno.com (Arch Angel)
      3) Re: For Guitarists - and anyone else who appreciates guitar!
     by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
      4) Sabermetrics
     by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
      5) I love this place when we talk about music.
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
      6) quick Sava review; release dates; you & me are"internet geeks"; 4 out of 5
     by caber1@concentric.net
      7) I'm Goin' Home
     by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
      8) FaN cLuB
     by average daily jam reader <prmrkstx@hotmail.com>
      9) Depressed
     by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
     10) funny thing 'bout it......
     by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
     11) Songs...
     by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
     12) Qr and Rush thoughts
     by "Nicole R. Stachowicz McWatters" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU>

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    Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 18:45:56 -0400
    From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: New songs and a YtseCon
    Message-ID: <33C2C324.6448@caribe.net>

    Graham Borland wrote:

    > > New songs - "Where are you now" is the best (IMHO) closely followed
    > > by "Burning My Soul", as heavy as you like...
    >
    > Unfortunately I was full of beer in Amsterdam, so I can't recall too many
    > details of the new songs. I do remember that Buring My Soul has that
    > cool catchy vocal line in the chorus, there are neat harmonies in
    > Peruvian Skies, and that I was incredibly moved by Take Away My Pain.
     
    dont forget the moody middle part from burning my soul which i REALLY
    love, and the cool rollercoaster ride in the middle of just let me
    breathe.. hehe, someone mentioned burning my soul being really not
    progressive, and i dont wanna start a debate here again on prog and what
    it is or isnt,.. but that kickass middle part seems very progressive
    within the song, i mean..its not just a mirror/lie heavy driven song..
    thats just my opinion..

           "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
                  The risk to survival is severe."
                           Ian Malcolm
                 http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
         mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com

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    Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 19:10:03 EDT
    From: fish69@juno.com (Arch Angel)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com (How do ya do it D?)
    Subject: Misc. inquiery from the low end
    Message-ID: <19970708.175751.2207.0.fish69@juno.com>

    > VITO BRATTA: I am a fan of White Lion, mostly because I think Vito was

    > perhaps the cream of the crop of EVH sound-alikes. He wasn't entirely
    an EVH
    > ripoff, but the influence is central to Vito's style. Vito was also an

    > amazing solo "writer." Check out the solo for "Goin' Home Tonight", or

    > "Wait", or "Little Fighter," etc.. I always think of him and Nuno
    Bettencourt
    > as taking the same approach to soloing - they create a little "song
    within a
    > song" in their solos.

            I'm kind off curious what became of Vito's musical career after
    White Lion flopped. Was one of my fav. guitarists growing up and still
    enjoy listening to "Big Game". Does anybody have the low down on him and
    what he's been up to?

                                                            -Arch Angel
                                                            fish69@juno.com

     

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    Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 19:07:21 +0000
    From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: For Guitarists - and anyone else who appreciates guitar!
    Message-ID: <B0000141550@chicago.orlinter.com>

    At 02:01 PM 7/8/97 -0700, you wrote:

    Nice writeup, Neil. Didn't know that there were jammers that still enjoyed
    listening these guys.

    >Lovin' the guitar content on the jam lately.. Since we've been throwing old
    >80s Shrapnelish names around lately...

    I haven't kept up with the instumental guitar scene lately. There is a web
    page devoted to instrumental guitarists called Guitar Zone (sorry I don't
    have the URL)

    >GREG HOWE: Comments, opinions? I fookin' *love* this guy's debut album on
    >Shrapnel. I wasn't too taken with his second release, the one with vocals. I
    >haven't heard any of the newer discs - can anyone tell me if he has returned
    >to the instrumental fusion format?

    Yes. I have _Uncertain Terms_ which is instrumental metal fusion. This is
    the best one I have heard from Greg Howe. _Parallax_ is the next one, and
    his latest is _Five_. I find that on each album Howe has one or two songs
    that are amazing. Some of his songs kinda meander without going anywhere.
    He has blazing speed and plays a lot of off-kilter rhythms. He also plays
    with Richie Kotzen in an album called _Tilt_. Howe is a guitarist that can
    shred all the way, but he also restrains himself from doing so and plays
    with emotion. That's what I love about him.

    >TONY MACALPINE: This guy is extremely talented, a virtuoso on both guitar and
    >piano. However, I have trouble getting into a lot of his songs. I may just
    >need to digest the music a little more, but methinks he needs to salt his
    >tunes with a few hooks now and then. Then again, maybe his particular hooks
    >just don't click with my brain.. hmm..

    I feel the same. He can write some excellent songs, but some of them don't
    "click" as you describe. I have _Premonition_ and heard the album before
    that and _Evolution_. The first songs on both albums I just mentioned are
    great. I hear he has a new album which is not on Shrapnel. Anybody heard
    this one?
     
    >RITCHIE KOTZEN: This guy is a very cool guitarist.

    You forgot his masterpiece album _Inner Galactic Fusion Experience_ which is
    jazz/rock fusion with some funk and spacey sounds. Bass legend Jeff Berlin
    joins him on this album. Check out his webpage http://www.richiekotzen.com

    >SHAWN LANE: I saw this guy's instructional video once. He can play so damned
    >fast that the notes blur together into a distorted mass - and this is NOT
    >because he's not playing cleanly! He's also a gifted composer and virtuoso
    >pianist. If you *ever* see his disc "Powers of Ten" just buy it.

    Will do!

    >That's it for now. Comments?! Discuss!

    Well, you forgot a slew of other great guitarists like Gary Hoey, Blues
    Saraceno, Marc Bonilla, Lanny Cordola, Scott Henderson, Steve Morse... :-)

    Walter.

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    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 16:22:40 -0700
    From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Sabermetrics
    Message-ID: <199707082322.QAA15628@main.cfmc.com>

    God, work's been slow lately...

    >From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
    >
    >I wouldn't know about the Pantera thing. But when you think about it,
    >"Rush" was from a band that was basically doing original Zeppelin covers,
    >and "Fly By Night" was the first from a great, intellectual band. "Ooh
    >yeah, ooh yeah" to "Anthem of the heart and andthem of the mind." As much
    >as I love that first album ("Before and After" always finds its way onto
    >my mix tapes), I just don't think of it as a Rush album.

    That's a little drastic for me. I still don't agree about the first album.
    I still hear as much Cream in there as Zeppelin. As I said, there are a
    couple of riffs that sound a little like they were nicked from one Zeppelin
    record or another, but the playing and the arrangements and everything
    sounds more like Cream to me. Granted, Rutsey isn't exactly Ginger Baker
    (okay, folks, open fire...I think Baker's a better drummer than Bonham).
    "Fly By Night" was certainly evidence of a band making changes, but I don't
    think all of the first album is quite so easily dismissed. Lyrically, it's
    pretty run-of-the-mill. But musically, they were covering some ground
    that's, to my ears, not quite standard issue.

    >> ...But the move from synths being
    >> "events" to synths being a featured element of the music (again, I'm
    >> borrowing from some number of interviews I've read over the years) is a
    >> significant one, and one that you can hear in the manner the band composes.
    >
    >That's a really good point. Rush's biggest inspiration on me has been as
    >a bassist and as a lyricist, and less as a composer, so I didn't notice
    >*how* the keys were used, just *when*.

    In addition, the answer to THAT question is, in part "more" for the
    "Signals" album. But there are a million vectors that go into one album
    being similar or dissimilar, better or worse than another. And we're,
    generally speaking, emphasizing different ones.

    >I don't know what it is, but I like the sound of Presto more than I like
    >the sound of HYF, although I'd put a lot of HYF stuff on a mix tape before
    >any Presto stuff (except "Presto" and "Superconductor"). HYF sounds
    >really really processed, and Presto just sounds more natural. (Hail
    >Rupert. :)

    I actually love the sound of "Hold Your Fire"....it seems like everything
    Peter Collins does is just genius. I mean, he's done the best-sounding
    Queensryche, Rush, Suicidial Tendencies, and Indigo Girls records, for
    starters. I know that isn't all Peter Collins -- in fact, a hell of a lot
    of it is Jimbo Barton, but the guy really knows how to marry sound to
    composition.

    On the other hand, "Presto" is a really warm record with a lot of depth. He
    achieves, even with a bunch of electric sounds, what Tull did so many years
    ago, having mandolins, acoustic guitars, and electric guitars weaving in and
    out. Where the album's lacking a little, I think, is when everything needed
    to be HUGE. "Show Don't Tell" probably would have been more effective if,
    when everything started kicking in, it didn't via a kind of twanginess,
    along with a little added beef. Still, "Presto" (the song) is just
    wonderful to listen do, composition aside. Everything just sparkles....

    >I don't think of TFE as a guitar album as much as I do CP, because CP to
    >me was shockingly guitar-oriented (especially after RTB), whereas TFE
    >seems "just right." I also like the songs on TFE far better than nearly
    >any other Rush album. With the exception of "Limbo," I think Rush has once
    >again become the premier songwriting team in rock.

    Hmmm...I think of "Limbo" as probably the weakest of the instrumentals, but
    that's a BRUTAL qualifying heat -- that's a phenomenal set of songs you're
    talking about. I'll actually toe the party line here and go with "Dog
    Years" as my least favorite song on the album (which I still like quite a
    lot, but I'm an unreconstructed Rush-head).

    >From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
    >Subject: stuff
    >
    >Just got back from getting hitched and spending a week in St. Martin in
    >the Caribbean.

    I like this piece, along with the title. The irony...

    Anyhow, I missed the boat when I first got the opportunity --
    Congratulations, Pat. Hope all's still well....

    >From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
    >
    >Never heard the band fugazi's music, ws under the impression they were a
    >punkish outfit, tho.......does the band fugazi have anything at all to do
    >with the album Fugazi by Marillion that showed up on Mr. Barnhart's NP
    >list?

    No, not at all. Fugazi the album is early Marillion -- Fish at perhaps his
    most esoteric. Fugazi the band is Ian MacKaye's current outfit, a punk band
    that's as relentlessly indie as you can get. The handle EVERYTHING
    themselves...they don't HAVE a band-sponsored t-shirt (the humorous element
    of the "This is Not a Fugazi T-Shirt" t-shirt), they insist on super-low
    concert prices at all age venues. They've basically got a load of good
    indie karma stored up. Basically, the band got going after MacKaye left
    Minor Threat, one of the most influential of the early(ish) punk bands.

    Five Gratuitous CD's:
    =====================
    1. Rush: Counterparts
    2. Satriani, Johnson, Vai: G3 Live in Concert
    3. Faith No More: Album of the Year
    4. Threefish: Threefish
    5. Polygram: Sampler Vol. 4

    Adam D. Barnhart
    adamb@cfmc.com
    ydnt85a@prodigy.com
    http://www.cfmc.com/adamb

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    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:23:59 -0400 (EDT)
    From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
    To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: I love this place when we talk about music.
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970708191158.10049G-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>

    > From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
    > Subject: A History of the British Working Class
    >
    > I actually think that if you take each set of two Rush albums, you get a
    > really satisfying set of pairings. The most problematic is the first pair,
    > but, beyond that, it's really quite remarkable. They make a right turn,

    Whoa, that's not bad. (Of course, I *still* want MP and S together. :)
    Gotta love AFTK and H together, as well as the last two pairs.

    ----
    

    > From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > Subject: random replies... > > Yes, but further down the road, let's not forget that "the more...things > change/the more they stay the same" <Hemispheres> is a far cry from "he > knows changes aren't permanent/but change is" <Moving Pictures> and these > were BOTH from Neil's pen. > > I don't know what I mean by that, just sumpin' about which to think. :)

    Oh, don't pick on "Circumstances." The poor "I'm the *other* song on Hemis, but I don't get any love on tour or the best of's or anything" song. :)

    > AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!! > > Talking about the history of Yes makes my head hurt! :)

    Talking about it is one thing. Try understanding it! I have the booklet from the Yes boxed set at home, with that kickass family tree in it. Entertaining *and* educational. :)

    > I love the music on "Dog Years" a LOT...but those lyrics? Come ON! :)

    You have to take the "Dog Years" lyrics they way they're meant to be - fun on the surface, but with that Neil edge to them. Yeah, it's a silly song. Very much so. (But so is "The Trees.") But dig a little deeper, and you see that whole life-metaphor thing happening. (Not to mention that Sirius wordplay - the reason I still think Neil's better than KevMo at writing lyrics.) I would have *much* rather had this one on tour than either "Resist" or "Limbo."

    Have I mentioned lately how good the harmonies on "To Live Forever" are?

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html

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    Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 18:38:48 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: quick Sava review; release dates; you & me are"internet geeks"; 4 out of 5 Message-ID: <33C2EB9B.5BA3@concentric.net>

    > From: nightcast@usa.net > Subject: Music? On a DT list??

    > I'm looking to grab a Savatage CD since I haven't heard much of them > beyond their radio hits. I love the song "Edge of Thorns" but wonder if > that's really their best or if there's better that I could do. Any > Savatage fans let me know. :)

    After listening to Streets A Rock Opera many a time, I have to say this is my favorite Savatage album. But I think they're re-releasing it next year, so don't buy it! :) Dead Winter Dead is great just ask anyone, I think only one or two people actually hated the album if that's saying anything. ____

    > From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> > Subject: stuff

    > SEPTEMBER!!!! New Savatage and new DT, enough said...

    Wrong, right. DT is end of September. But Savatage is coming out October in Europe and Japan, November for us in US, right? :) ___

    > From: "M. Morton" <mooman@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2717

    > HELP! Someone! I need to unsubscribe to this garbage and I deleted the > instructional message. How do I do it? I thought it was an update list > on Dream Theater, but is instead a group of internet geeks bitching at > each other with too much time on their hands. SOS!

    Should I just go ahead and kill this prick or does someone else want to do it? :P [side note: SOS means Save Our Ship, so, what are you typing about?] ___ > From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James) > Subject: The Next One > I think the next song to be recorded should be "Trial of Tears"

    Since that's the only song Myung did the lyrics for, it better be on there! I like his lyrics the best out of the other guys.

    "My car was legally parked as it backed into the other vechile." Accident Reports from Insurance Forms :)

    John McCabe caber1@concentric.net

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    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 16:35:42 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'm Goin' Home Message-ID: <199707082335.QAA14944@main.cfmc.com>

    For once...a message subject from me with meaning. The last 'Jam just landed in my mailbox, and I'm a few minutes from hitting the road.

    >From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) > >On the Eve of Destruction, "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" said: >> >>VITO BRATTA: I am a fan of White Lion, mostly because I think Vito was >>perhaps the cream of the crop of EVH sound-alikes. He wasn't entirely an EVH >>ripoff, but the influence is central to Vito's style. Vito was also an >>amazing solo "writer." Check out the solo for "Goin' Home Tonight", or > >Too bad he's not that serious about guitar... he started half his solos in >wrong key when I saw him live and people were booing and stuff... he didn't >give a damn either...

    That's interesting. I understand the guy isn't even in the business anymore. I haven't seen him live, but I thought he was one of the most interesting soloists of that period. Most of what he laid down on vinyl (well...not vinyl as such...you know what I mean) was really well-thought-out and impressed the hell out of me. Melodic AND aggressive. He really knew how to play. Maybe he's just one of those guys who can't improvise. I've no idea, really...

    >From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> > >Well, it seems that as the years go by, Alex gets less and less interested >in soloing. The solos on RtB are great. The solos on Counterparts are >stellar <Cut to the Chase, Cold Fire>, but few and far between. The solos >on TfE are almost nonexistent, but the riffing <Driven, Time & Motion, Dog >Years, Virtuality> kicks my ass all over Annapolis.

    That's an interesting one. Well, specifically, I mean the "Cold Fire" solo. When I first heard it, I LOVED the song (I still think it's one of the ten best Rush songs), but I didn't really care for the solo, an opinion I shared with an awful lot of people. Then, a couple of weeks after buying the CD, the solo just clicked with me, and now I think it's one of his best.

    Five Gratuitous CD's: (Aw hell....they're the same as they were 15 minutes ago)....

    Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb

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    Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 19:45:25 +0000 From: average daily jam reader <prmrkstx@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FaN cLuB Message-ID: <33C298D4.272@hotmail.com>

    hey, folks, just a short question about the fan club and Neil elliot. Is it still in existince?? I signed up a LONG time ago and only recieved one issue about 4 1/2 months ago. is there anything in the works???

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    Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 01:38:49 +0200 From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si> To: "No religion, just music and DT" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Depressed Message-ID: <33C2CF89.4AA054FB@uni-mb.si>

    Ok, everybody.

    If you're depressed, try listening to Creep by Radiohead. It has great lirycs, and it sounds powerfull to me(at least when I'm depressed). Also some great tunes: One by Meta...., Dyers Eve by Meta....,... So, see ya, Seb! -- /--------------------------------#---------------------------------\ / Sebastjan Videc [StDeVil] | Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si \ #---------------------------------#----------------------------------# \ http://tferi4.uni-mb.si/~videc | I once could see but now at last / \_______(under construction)_____#__________I'm blind (KM)_________/

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    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 19:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: funny thing 'bout it...... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970708190531.10463A-100000@tempest.rs.itd.umich.edu>

    > I actually think that if you take each set of two Rush albums, you get a > really satisfying set of pairings. The most problematic is the first > pair, but, beyond that, it's really quite remarkable.

    Welp, i must be a weird one, because I like the first pair of rush albums far far better than the second duet.....i rate CoS at the absolute bottom (of the studio Rush albums) and 2112 oh, around 13/16 on my list.....and Preto is my fave......as if you really care :)

    Did want to throw in a comment about breaking down Rush eras...... Used to believe in the live album breakpoint theory, but thinking about it, and that didn't hold up for me......the biggest problem for me comes in regard to Power Windows......

    Part of it is because it's an album I really like (#3 on my list of Studio rush albums), which was released right after my #15 album (P/G).....That transition right there is the most drastic to my ears, So i always put an era break between those albums.......

    for me the eras (in terms of studio album numbers) is 2:3:(4:1):4:2 the first two albums were a time of experimentation, both times with a "new" drummer.....the second set (Cos:AFTK) is purely arbitrary on my part, albums I don't hold too dearly....the third group is IMO the best sustained effort Rush has ever produced.....from Hemi to Signals, the boyz were right ON the mark...

    and then there's P/G, which I guess could fit in with the Moving Pictures era, but then that would ruin that era's sher brilliance....what to do, what to do? I know, let's put it in a class of its own.....where it can't bother no one.....

    Power Windows thru RTB is my fourth era.....a lot of you would put a break point in the middle of this group, and with the producer switch, I thought about this one for a bit....but, is HYF really that far removed from Presto? I listened to 'em both last night, and I couldn't really say "yes".....the last coupla albums are the "back to the gee-tar, let's run away from Rupert Hine" era.......

    Of course, all of this is based on what my ears tell me, so feel free to disagree (just as I'm doing with Messrs Merlo, Barnhart et al), or go get me some Q-Tips, or whatever......

    partha

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    Date: Tue, 8 Jul 97 19:09:30 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Songs... Message-ID: <33c2d6ba5ba7103@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>

    I figure, what the hell, I'll go the alphabet route here (one band for each letter)...

    TOP 26 SONGS TO LISTEN TO WHILE DEPRESSED

    Allman Brothers - Whipping Post Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath/Heaven and Hell The Cult - Ciao Edie Dream Theater - Pull Me Under/Lie Eagles - Seven Bridges Road Faith No More - From Out of Nowhere/Epic Guns 'N' Roses - November Rain/Estranged Hanson - MMMBop....Kidding! Just kidding!!! Jimi Hendrix - Red House Iron Maiden - Wasted Years/Transylvania/Still Life Jethro Tull - Locomotive Breath King's X - Pillow/Go to Hell Led Zeppelin - Babe I'm Gonna Leave You/Ten Years Gone Megadeth - Holy Wars/Mechanix Ted Nugent - Stranglehold (or Night Ranger - Sister Christian) Ozzy - Crazy Train/I Don't Know (Honorable mention to Offspring - Gone Away) Pearl Jam - "Ten", especially Once/Black/Release (or Pantera - This Love) Queensryche - Silent Lucidty/Another Rainy Night/Someone Else? Rush - Subdivisions/Closer to the Heart (my fav Rush song) Al Stewart - Roads to Moscow (or Soundgarden - Like Suicide) Tesla - Love Song (or TON - In Praise of Baccus) U2 - Pride/One (or Ugly Kid Joe - Everything About You) Van Halen - Don't Tell Me What Love Can Do/When It's Love/Love Comes Walking In Whitesnake - Here I Go Again (whatever the name of it is) X - Hmmm, I can't think of any bands for this one. I'll cheat - "Xanadu" by Rush Yngwie - How Many Miles to Babylon Zeppelin (another cheat, oh well) - Achilles Last Stand

    And of course, the absolute classic: Dvorak - From the New World, 4th movement "Allegro con fuoco", played as loud as the stereo goes.

    -Brian

    ***************************** Quote of the Day ********************************* "Show the world that love is still alive, you must be brave, Or all you children of today are children of the grave." -0zzy Osbourne ********************************************************************************

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    Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 19:16:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Nicole R. Stachowicz McWatters" <stachowic_n@UHDVX3.DT.UH.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Qr and Rush thoughts Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970708191409.8298A-100000@DT3.DT.UH.EDU>

    I must confess, I've been skimming posts. (Please don't hurt me!) I've been a bit overwhelmed by the amount of mail I received yesterday. But I came across a couple of things that I thought I'd reply to.

    Eckie wrote on the subject of "Moody Blues": >I'm suprised I forgot to mention (and it _still_ hasn't been mentioned, >or maybe I juss didn't see it) Queensryche's Silent Lucidity.

    Well, I must say that song is one of my favorites (hell, we played it as a first dance at Ken's and my wedding!), but I wouldn't classify it as something I'd listen to when I'm depressed. Turned on maybe, but that's just MHO.

    Adam Barnhart wrote on Rush: >I actually think that if you take each set of two Rush albums, you get a >really satisfying set of pairings.

    You know, I find that to be true with the limited knowledge I have about their music. (C'mon, I'm a prog newbie here!) But what I find most amazing is that Counterparts and TFE are great matches music-wise, but TFE was written after a year and a half off from writing any music. I wonder if they plan these sorts of things. I also wonder what their next direction will be. Any thoughts?

    Steve Zebrowski also wrote on Rush: >I love the music on "Dog Years" a LOT...but those lyrics? Come ON!

    Didn't Peart say that it was supposed to be taken as a humorous song? (I like it, btw, just in case anyone cares.)

    Well, that's about it. And for whoever you were who said I was too happy, I didn't use a single smiley face! There! I'm as depressed as the rest of you! Eckie, bring me my voodoo doll and candles!

    -Nicole/Kirby

    Nicole Rene Stachowicz McWatters | The sleep is still in my eyes Undergrad Professional Writing Major | The dream is still in my head University of Houston-Downtown | I close my eyes and ... smile stachowic_n@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu | And lie a while in bed. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/5039 | Kirby on irc.dreamt.org | "Soliloquy" _2112_ by Rush

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