YTSEJAM Digest 2747
Today's Topics:
1) Speed picking
by gra@provida.no
2) Prog tape swap URL
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
3) old songs
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
4) Stuff
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
5) Stuff... happy stuff... sad stuff... stuff in between
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
6) Re: Leaving
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
7) Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
8) RE: Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
9) MORE FATES DATES
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
10) an Enchanting weekend
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
11) Re: Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
12) Enchant's 'Time Lost'
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
13) TI
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
14) want suggestions on guitars
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
15) George Bellas/UFO
by wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
16) About STU HAMM
by Kappa <kappa_rock@iol.it>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:59:23 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Speed picking
Message-ID: <412564D4.002EF84D.00@oslo1.provida.no>
Chris Ptacek:
> Sextuplets at 200BPM? Are you talking 16th note triplets? I'd
have
>to hear that before I'd believe it (not to insinuate that you're lying...
>just that I've never heard anything that fast in all my listening years).
There's this norweigan guy (Markus Paus) who got in the
"Guiness Book of Records". He pulls off 460 and some notes per SECOND.
He uses both hands and all fingers to HO/PO notes ...
(I have heard him play, but 460 nps ??? In my fastest moments i can do
25 nps at most (strictly speed picking, no h/p)
Anyhow, at 200 BPM this Markus dude can play 1/128th notes !
Disclaimer:
This info is based on information from my national broadcasting company,
if it contains errors, I am not to be flamed. :) I have not done any
extended
checking on this matter, that I leave to you.
-.profile
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:11:53 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Prog tape swap URL
Message-ID: <33C9DF49.757B@auburn.net>
Hello everyone! I put up a page giving some details about the tape swap
that's been trying to germinate. It's at
http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html so check it out, then email
me saying you want to take part, especially if you're one of the newer
members on the list, because this is a good chance to hear tracks from
some of the bands you read about on the 'jam.
D-Man, you gotta tell those goddamn Mets to lay off of my Braves.
They're wearing us out! :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:11:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: old songs
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970714040600.19720E-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
> Subject: WDADU live??
>
> *BUT* this *doesn't* exclude the possibility of the band doing a
> great professional/with the assistance of Elektra of a new WDADU Live.
No, but this will:
The band has said in numerous forums that they want to concentrate on new
material. I suppose that every now and then, they'll dust off one or two
old songs (like AH/TKH and The Ytse Jam this last tour), but don't expect
any large-scale re-recording of this stuff.
And on a personal note, as much as I love the songs on WDADU, there's a
whole buttload of stuff that we haven't heard from them. I would rather
they spend the time recording that stuff, instead of stuff we've heard
already.
Too bad the WDATU version of To Live Forever doesn't have harmonies.
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 10:27:04 +0200
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <9707140827.AA00295@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
and I always thought shreddies were the brown crispy bits I found in my undies!
Just goes to show - you never stop learning. Anyway, when I'm picking, I find
my index finger inserted up the nostril to the first joint to be the best and
most effective method. What's a bum-hucker?
It is now politically correct for Ytsejammers to dislike Queensryche. The latest
German edition of Metalhammer has Mike Portnoy saying the following about 'Sign
Of The Times' - "Obviously the new Queensryche single. I always liked this band
- until this album. Let me put it like this. On the old albums you could always
discover something new, even if you'd heard them 100 times. Hear In The Now
Frontier has nothing new to offer after listening to it just 3 times.
Disappointing. What a sellout." (Mike probably used slightly different words,
but I have translated the gist of what he said.) This won't stop me liking the
album though.
Look out for the review of the new Paradise Lost album 'One Second' very soon -
boy, am I looking forward to this one.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Extrabreit - Hurra, Hurra, die Schule brennt
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:34:35 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stuff... happy stuff... sad stuff... stuff in between
Message-ID: <199707140834.BAA19781@goodnet.com>
Well well well... lotsa stuff to see here.
Erik... pay the guy his $150 and be done with him. And don't
recommend him to anyone. Thus, you will have upheld the contract, but he
will suffer for his incompetence. Hey, if I put out a bunch of sucky CDs
in a row, I'd expect sales to slack off pretty badly. :)
Another big batch of CDs goes out tomorrow. Those of you "on the
bubble" that e-mailed me and asked, will likely get theirs soon.
QR:HITNF... this is their best album behind Mindcrime. Not because
of detail or spontaneity or prog-ness or complexity or high notes or any
of that shit. It's that good because the _songs_ are so well-crafted,
because they age so well, because the lyrics (with Get A Life as the
notable exception) are very well done, because the live performances have
been exceptional, and because they explored a bunch of different
directions (a la Empire and Rage For Order) while not forgetting to write
relevant, vital, graspable, connectable songs. I put Some People Fly and
The Voice Inside right near the top. About the only songs on the album I
don't care for are Get A Life and I'm Going Down (and I'm not even too
unhappy with the latter compared to... say... Disconnected or DLS). Some
songs go in fascinating new directions and just compel the listener to
sort of "go along for the ride"... Spool and Cuckoo's Nest are such songs.
There's a reason I defend DT so much and that I get into King's X, DT, and
such and not "minor" prog bands, and it's the same reason that I say what
I said above about HITNF: _It's All About Songwriting_.
Bootleg sound quality... well, it's very hit-and-miss. Show tapes
are usually pretty horrible. When preparing CDs, I generally gather the
best source material available to me, and sometimes even that comes up
short (a la Light Fuse n' Get Away). But sometimes it works perfectly, and
the sound quality is right up there... Acoustic Dreams, Precious Things,
Acoustic Spirits. It all depends. The "common" boots that you can find
anywhere run a much wider gamut between sucky and great. The best thing to
do when buying bootlegs is to buy the ones that have the material you want
to listen to on them, and that you don't hear all sorts of terrible shit
about. Do that, and you're smooth sailing.
And now for a parody...
THE BLATANT SPAM (to the tune of The Silent Man)
A question not heard
Cause no one really asked
But AOLers don't know that
So they post Make-Money-Fast...
They post illegal lore
To newsgroups by the score
Impossible to ignore...
Have we been a victim?
Of the Lottery of Green Cards?
Or the Friends Network of Psychics?
Cause we can't kill-file them all?
Desperate to avoid
But hopelessly annoyed
We delete it to the void...
Where there are users...
Discussing away...
Where there is bandwidth
There's always blatant spam
On Every Usenet newsgroup
With every possible name
As long as there are newbies
You'll see some blatant spam.
[solo]
A message from deceivers
Deleted by receivers
Can't they ever learn that pyramid bullshit
Don't ever work for no one
We don't want scams like these
Taking cash from you and me...
If there are suckers
With new IBM's
That use the AOL intro-disc
They'll post some blatant spam.
On Screaming in Digital
The Star or Ytsejam
Unless they turn on post restrictions
We'll always get that spa-a-am
We're drowned in blatant spam.
Well, there it is. Good? Bad? Ridiculous? You be the judge.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:48:44 -0500
From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Leaving
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970714034844.006a41ec@mail.autobahn.mb.ca>
>From: Tim Caudill
>Subject: With regrets...
>
Thanx for having the nuts to say something I couldn't.
Taking my leave...
WhiteWolf
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:05:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970714014510.37980C-100000@dante05.u.washington.edu>
"Sign of the Times" (by Queensryche) came on the radio one day at my place
of work. A co-worker turned the volume up on the line "would someone
please let me know" and began giggling aloud, commenting to another
co-worker, "Can you say SELLOUT boys and girls? How far away can they get
from Mindcrime with THIS album?"
So I said to him, "What, you want another Mindcrime?"
So he said to me, "Well YEAH, something better than THIS stuff..."
So I said to him, "Are you a...Queensryche fan, Joe?"
So he (Joe) said to me, "Shit yeah. Since `The Warning.'"
So I said to him, "No. A fan is someone that supports someone else in ANY
of their pursuits. From The Warning to Rage For Order to Mindcrime to
Empire to Promised Land to THIS stuff."
So he said to me, "Yeah? And your point is?"
So I said to him, "But then on the other hand there's You. You're not a
fan of a band, you're a fan of an ALBUM."
---- > From: Tim Caudill <symmetry@gate.usaor.net> > Subject: With regrets... > > I'd like to thank Skadz for all the hard work he's put in. I can't = > imagine how much effort you've put in, but i just wanted to let you > know that it was appreciated."And thanks especially for getting rid of all those AOL'ers in one fell swoop. Who knows why they're the scapegoats of the Internet? I hate 'em anyway!!"
> I wish i could've read more 'Jams, i wish i could've posted more, but > mostly, i wish the 'Jam wouldn't have become a haven for flaming, > back-stabbing, useless posts with nothing pertaining to DT, prog, or > music at all.
Wow! I think that's the most outright slandering this list has ever endured! Malice hath been proven, your honor! Best of all, and worst of all, Tim's statements are 100% correct. And he's so nonchalant about it, isn't he? :)
> I welcome e-mails from any DT fans who want to chat, especially those > from Western PA. And i can now be found subscribing to the new Voices > mailing list, which i hope will become what the 'Jam promised to be > when i received my first 'Jam, #1574.
Here me now. The Ytsejam Makes No Promises.
---- > From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> > Subject: Oooops!!!!
OOOOOOPS!! I accidentally fired all of our nuclear missiles at Russia and France! Finger must have slipped! Besides, it was those fuckin' sysadmins at AOL!! Damn 'em all!!
---- > From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> > Subject: Parodies, Thought Industry, and AOLers. > > Good call, Mark. one of my favorite parodies I heard was from eons ago > by someone I can't even remember . Anyway, the parody was for > Surrounded and was called Puh'pounded. I've printed myself a copy but > it inevitably got lost. Anyone got this hummer cached around anywhere? > I'd love to see it again.
The author's name was Michelle Garcia.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:18:15 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970714091815Z-16038@ms.Kallback.com>
Where do you work, anyway?
Looks like I was right about the brainteasers. :P
>---------- >From: S. Borzilleri[SMTP:magellan@u.washington.edu] >Sent: Monday, July 14, 1997 2:14AM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded > >"Sign of the Times" (by Queensryche) came on the radio one day at my place >of work. >
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:27:01 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MORE FATES DATES Message-ID: <199707140927.CAA02741@gms.gmsnet.com>
Ok... here's one for you northern cal people!!
I was up there this weekend for Enchant... really rocked my nadz... signed my Time Lost CD they did... and got to hang out with Matt Guillory and Rick Audet, Steve Yanos and other folks... but more on that later...
August 22 at Club Kaos, Fremont, CA Fates Warning will be playing... I may be there!!!
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:41:04 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: an Enchanting weekend Message-ID: <199707140941.CAA02834@gms.gmsnet.com>
Alright... here's a short review of Enchant in Fremont CA...
Spent the day in downtown San Fran, me and my "cronies" as Rick would call them... met Rick for lunch... we sat around and BS'ed for about 2 hours... Then we went back down to Fremont to prepare for the gig. I didn't know how packed it would be... but it was PACKED... Tesseract opened up... they were good... but nothing too impressionable. So we got to Club Kaos, met Rick (Audet aka Spine) at the door... and Charonekwan there. We just kinda listened to Tesseract passively... then Matt Guillory showed up with the bassist and guitarist of what is formerly known as Chaos Theory (new band name pending). Talked with them... then Steve Yanos (aka Yanos Aldron) showed up (big fucker!! hey Yanos!! heheh). While watching Tesseract, we noticed this bald guy with a goatee sitting at the Enchant vending table with drum sticks and a drum pad, so we figured, he must be Paul Craddick, so we went up to him, and obviously he was... Ted Leonard the singer was easy to spot... he had his mic with him... a Shure Beta 58 wireless, and for those who've asked me, Paul plays Star Classic drums (TAMA). So naturally I picked up a copy of Time Lost and had the whole band sign it. So the show finally began... This guy can sing!!! He was more powerful than on the album!! The sound started off kinda shitty, but finally they got the mix down (this place wasn't exactly acoustic heaven either but more of a shithole). They played 3 songs off of Time Lost which I haven't heard at that time... the songs were incredible... Time Lost is a good disc, buy it if you're an Enchant fan.
Incredible show... incredible weekend... Enchant is no longer with Magna Carta and are looking for a new US label... good luck to em...
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:50:16 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Queensryche, Farewell, OOPS!!, Puh-Pounded Message-ID: <199707140950.CAA02916@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "S. Borzilleri" said: >"Sign of the Times" (by Queensryche) came on the radio one day at my place >of work. A co-worker turned the volume up on the line "would someone >please let me know" and began giggling aloud, commenting to another >co-worker, "Can you say SELLOUT boys and girls? How far away can they get >from Mindcrime with THIS album?" > >So I said to him, "What, you want another Mindcrime?" > >So he said to me, "Well YEAH, something better than THIS stuff..." > >So I said to him, "Are you a...Queensryche fan, Joe?" > >So he (Joe) said to me, "Shit yeah. Since `The Warning.'" > >So I said to him, "No. A fan is someone that supports someone else in ANY >of their pursuits. From The Warning to Rage For Order to Mindcrime to >Empire to Promised Land to THIS stuff." > >So he said to me, "Yeah? And your point is?" > >So I said to him, "But then on the other hand there's You. You're not a >fan of a band, you're a fan of an ALBUM."
By the same reasoning, "Are they Queensryche??"
NO, because they have abandoned all that Queensryche stood for... progressive metal with integrity. What is HitNF??? An attempt to gain mainstream acceptance. So why should I support Grungeryche?? I'm not a fan of grungeryche but Queensryche... and they are no longer that...
A fan is NOT someone who supports a band no matter what they do... you're getting too much into the technicality of it Bafuhead... :)
-The Doc
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:54:34 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'freaks@ax.com'" <freaks@ax.com>, "'DT'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Enchant's 'Time Lost' Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970714095434Z-16049@ms.Kallback.com>
Could someone going to an Enchant gig, PLEASE buy and sent me a Time Lost cd? Pretty please? I will gladly and speedily reimburse you for it, Thanks in advance,
Trevor Hoit trevorw@ms.kallback.com
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Date: 14 Jul 97 12:59:34 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi> To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: TI Message-ID: <0021E3810200000101003B4555042E@mlespser1001.metsaliitto.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Head, the artist formerly known as "Baldy" said:
>I've got the first three albums....one from Best Buy, the others from a used >CD store in California (Rasputin's). They're all awesome. I'd have to say >Songs For Insects is my least favorite..but I like 'em all. The band is the >definition of insanity. And even though maybe they did change their sound to
Tee hee hee, I just bought "Songs for Insects" for a little less than $1. Didn't sound too bad...
_Mape_
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:01:15 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: want suggestions on guitars Message-ID: <199707141107.OAA23181@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
Hello
I've been thinking of picking up an electric guitar. I've tried out a couple of Ibanezes (an obvious choice for somebody who listens to Vai and Dream Theater*, don't you think?) and found that RG has the best price/performace ratio. RX just didn't cut it for me -- no whammy and no lock. Hm. Anybody confirm or deny it?
Now, I've been reading of pickups on the Jam lately. Some advice about them?
Also, I've been thinking of purchasing an Ebow. Does anybody here use it on a regular basis?
I am a-waiting for some pretty private emails. :-)
* - Dream Theater Content.
Raitz
Maybe all I need besides my pills and surgery is a new metaphor for reality
Queensryche, "Dis Con Nec Ted"
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 06:11:56 -0500 From: wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: George Bellas/UFO Message-ID: <199707141111.GAA29785@tddpd22.tddeng00.fnts.com>
"......I really like George Bellas' playing but he's more like Yngwie than Jason.." -------------------------- I picked up the new CD this weekend, by Moog Way (Phil Moog and Pete Way, from UFO) and George Bellas shreds on this one! He does play very much like Yngwie, and is the only *real* replacement guitarist for Michael Schenker, that has joined UFO since his departure.
When the most popular UFO line-up reunited in '95 (Moog, Way, Schenker, Paul Raymond and Andy Parker) for the Walk On Water CD (which is excellent), a legal agreement was signed, in which it was stated that a band may use the UFO name only if the band contains Moog, Way *and* Schenker - hence the new name "Moog Way". Ansley Dunbar rounds out the new line-up on drums. Check it out - and if you have not listened to UFO before I encourage you to do so. Pick up any UFO CD with Schenker.
Wade
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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:12 +0000 From: Kappa <kappa_rock@iol.it> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: About STU HAMM Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970714132412.006f29cc@popmail.iol.it>
>Actually, I wait until the end of the song so I can be sure to hear >everything. :) At G3 shows, I save frantic screaming for Stu Hamm's bass >solo.
About STu... I don't know... but I see a old Japanese videotape with Stu touring with Satriani... it's in 1989.... and he did the same solo he did two years ago with Satch, and some months ago with G3... it's possible he did the SAME solo for ten years?!?!?!?
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