YTSEJAM digest 2757

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Date: Tue Jul 15 1997 - 15:13:47 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) uh...
     by Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
      2) Re: Remove from list
     by "Jerry Averill" <Jerry_Averill@qmail4.nba.TRW.COM>
      3) KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND, QR OPENER IN WI
     by "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
      4) Dream Theater stuff I own
     by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
      5) The optimist's job is never done/LISTEN to Jordan Rudess, then think again
     by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
      6) Re: The DS attack! : )
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
      7) Re: Remove from list
     by "Jerry Averill" <Jerry_Averill@qmail4.nba.TRW.COM>
      8) Re:Paradise Lo
     by ASHLEY WONG <ETL.ETLAYWG@MESMTPSE.ericsson.se>
      9) Markus Paus
     by "Iumentum" <alnygaar@online.no>
     10) Shoe fly shoe
     by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
     11) Hops and too much time (was: Re: Tage List)
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
     12) Attention Bay Area Jammers
     by Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu>
     13) Thought Industry
     by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
     14) Galactic Cowboys
     by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
     15) O:M hospital call (QRCT)
     by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
     16) No coffee responses
     by caber1@concentric.net
     17) Peruvian Skies chorus
     by Jonathan Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com>
     18) Problems; TLF; WDADU; Qr = Ec?; the Mindless Ones
     by caber1@concentric.net

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:31:53 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Steve Zebrowski <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: uh...
    Message-ID: <199707151531.LAA12989@umbc8.umbc.edu>

    > Geez. Am I the only one that just thinks it's funny that Pat STILL hasn't
    > gotten his tapes? It's hilarious. In fact, I just urinated in my pants. HA!

    No, you're not the only one. Al and Pat should be in the FAQ! :)

    > >Woah! How self-righteous are you? :)
    >
    > Hehehe! He's Bafu! You can't get more self righteous than that
    > unless you're Me, Mosh or Merlo!

    Ok, Ok. I have to say that I was TOTALLY kidding about that <and MAYBE
    shouldn't have said it at all>.

    > Ben, the Man With The Prehensile Penis.

    Cool! I've always wanted one of those!

    <preceding cool Metallica stuff snipped...>

    > Good: Rush "Leave That Thing Alone"
    > Poor: Rush "Jacob's Ladder"

    Woah. You had me, then you lost me...

    <following cool DT stuff snipped...>

    Steve Z

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    Date: 15 Jul 1997 08:38:59 -0700
    From: "Jerry Averill" <Jerry_Averill@qmail4.nba.TRW.COM>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Remove from list
    Message-ID: <n1343166267.92089@qmail4.sp.trw.com>

    Remove (jerry.averill@trw.com) from list

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:07:08 -0500
    From: "Robin L. Campbell" <campbell@str.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND, QR OPENER IN WI
    Message-ID: <199707151551.IAA16884@odin.ax.com>

    Hey gang,
            I noticed someone asking about KOTR CD ordering and I must say that
    they are the best place I have ordered from so far. I have probably gotten
    almost 20 discs from them in the last 6 months, and they are always fast and
    reliable. They also reply to e-mails quickly if you have any questions. A+
    from me!
            Also, I noticed someone said the QR opening band in Chicago was
    pretty cool. I thought you might get a kick out of the opener in the
    Wisconsin show at Alpine Valley: They were called "PISTON"...but the stoopid
    part is that they pronounce it "PISSED-ON". Just when you thought openers
    couldn't get any worse, they pretty much scrape the bottom of the barrel.
    hehe I just thought y'all might get a kick out of it since it is our
    constant source of stoopid jokes lately. So check out their new album
    "Number 1" in record stores! And you can get a "Shroud of Urine" T-shirt if
    you are lucky. I'll be wearing mine!

    later,
    da robbsta

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 12:02 EDT
    From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Dream Theater stuff I own
    Message-ID: <m0woA3F-000AvPC@xcalibur.iinc.com>

    Lets see here- Images And Words, Awake, Live At The Marquee, The Silent Man,
    A Change Of Seasons, Scenes From A Memory, Precious Things (someday),
    Darkest Of Winters (someday). I guess I don't own too much. I just don't
    have the money to buy every DT bootleg and release they have.

    Most I spent on a DT CD- 45 dollars on a copy of WDADU...disappointing, took
    it back to a store and got 3 bucks for it. Really depressing.

    Don

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 16:05:27 +0000
    From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: The optimist's job is never done/LISTEN to Jordan Rudess, then think again
    Message-ID: <33CB9FC7.19A1@mailstorm.dot.gov>

    Lars:
    > Based on what I've heard of the new songs, I'm not so optimistic.

    You heard only rough drafts of the songs. Over here on the "glass is
    half full" side of town, we believe that, in the studio, they'll be
    improving what we've heard and all will be fine.

    So cry another day :)

    > That keyboard lead at the very end of the instrumental section in TTT
    > is the most fucking incredible thing I've ever heard in my life. It's
    > only about 8 bars, but I don't think ANY other keyboardist could write
    > something that awesome.

    Think again. I think BOTH Kevin and Derek are each great in their own
    way (DON'T start that who's better thread again, people). In short: We
    all like the other members of the band, right? Well, guess who decided
    that Derek was a good choice to be a keyboard player in the band?

    Speaking of keyboardists who not only CAN and HAVE but WILL CONTINUE to
    compose and perform several awesome things:

    Jordan Rudess is in a class by himself! The man is truly a maestro. I
    won't repeat what Jeremy and Adam already posted on the clinic we
    attended at Berklee. Of course, the acoustics at Berklee far outshine
    that of a Guitar Center back room... I'll add the following I remember
    from the Danvers clinic which may put things into perspective a little
    (I can dream, can't I? :)

    Rod mentioned his days with Winger and that Kip recenlty asked Jordan to
    come over to play the keyboard parts to some of the stuff off of Kip's
    upcoming new release. Well, Jordan comes over and plays the new stuff:
    that is, the bass, the guitar AND the keyboard parts. The guy had the
    entire album down!! Kip was totally blown away...

    Not even close!

    All you keyboard players out there who mention being frustrated that the
    guitar gets all the limelight in prog music, go pick up this disc. It's
    quite apparent that the keyboard can shine just as bright as the primary
    supplier of progness in a song :)

    I head on over to Bafu's territory. Showing no intentions of stealing
    any of the females in that territory for the purposes of gaining access
    to copulations, I am granted access. Similar to the way certain species
    align themselves in parallel, I align myself and begin scratching my
    head also...

    Jon

    *------------*------------------------*--------------*
    | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:09:52 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: The DS attack! : )
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970715130813.17872A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>

    On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Vincent G. LuPone wrote:

    > >3. After 4+ albums, it's time for the big time, they had 1 big hit "Pull me
    > >Under" which was the only "Marketable" song on I&W. Awake sold to only
    > >prog & DT fans, it didn't pick up anyone because there were no "hits".
    > >Sure, all of DT's work is the shit here, but it isn't on the billboard
    > >chart. Heavy sells. Strickly prog doesn't. We'll just have to see what
    > >the new album brings to the charts (we'll also have to see how much
    > >promotion DT gets from the label, that could make or break this disc)
    > > That's my .05 lata, J
    >
    > Um, where did you get the idea tha "heavy sells"?! Plantera's
    > last album

            Of couse that was something implicit in his sentence. He meant to
            say "heavy sells more than prog does". It is very obvious.

            []s from one of the worshippers of I&W, Roger...

    --
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
     "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters"
               James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters
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    Date: 15 Jul 1997 09:07:33 -0700 From: "Jerry Averill" <Jerry_Averill@qmail4.nba.TRW.COM> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Remove from list Message-ID: <n1343164719.88370@qmail4.sp.trw.com>

    Remove (jerry.averill@trw.com) from list

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:53 +0200 From: ASHLEY WONG <ETL.ETLAYWG@MESMTPSE.ericsson.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re:Paradise Lo Message-ID: <199707151553.ebAt@mesmtpse.ericsson.se>

    --- Received from ETL.ETLAYWG +44-1444-231883 97-07-15 17:53

    -> IN=3Dytsejam(a)ax.com

    Hello All,

    I couldn't agree more with Neil's and Graham's glowing reviews of Paradise Lost's new release 'One Second'.

    I went to see them on their only UK date at the London Astoria on the Su= nday evening. The place was packed out and hot (London has been sweltering la= tely), and as expected there was an atmosphere of restlesness and impatience once inside.

    I didn't get the name of the support band, and no offence meant, I didn'= t q uite get their sound - a mixture of mainstream metal, but a crowd seemed= to enjoy it. This point was a good excuse to nip upstairs to the merchandis= e counter where I got hold of a rather smart 'Seals the Sense' t-shirt for a tenner.

    PL came on really energetic and happy. Even Aaron Aedy was grinning, who normally has the best - I think - 'who-the-f**k-you-looking-at' look abo= ut him. The new short hair look of Nick Holmes and Aaron Aedy is a bit of a= suprise, but I like it as my own hair is cropped short and gelled-up :).

    The lighting was good and they used an interesting montage of projected = ima ges in the background. It was the kind of stuff art-students photograph = e.g cemeteries, old faces, statues etc. :)

    They played a varied mixture from 'Shades of God, 'Icon, 'Draconian Tim es' and 'One Second'. During the new stuff most of the crowd just listen= ed, apart from the real-hardcore nutters towards the front that just moshed= . But when the favourites of 'As I Die', and 'Once Solemn', came on everbody j= ust exploded.

    They played for over 90mins (I think - I lost track of time). And later = on at 12:00am at the Virgin Megastore around the corner, there was a signin= g s ession for the official release of their album. Unfortunately, I couldn'= t stick around as I had a long drive back home - damn :)

    In all, I reckon PL, are onto a winner in new spin in thier musical dire= cti on, they definetly offer you something if you like your metal heavy and = hard yet intelligently put together.

    Thanks for reading, and I hope to hear more views.

    Ashley.

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 18:40:32 +0200 From: "Iumentum" <alnygaar@online.no> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Markus Paus Message-ID: <199707151641.SAA03189@online.no>

    Markus Paus can actually play that fast... I have seen him perform several times. His techique is only good for playing fast. When the slow parts comes he sounds like an aircrash. The fastparts are so fast that you can`t hear the tones... Ì think it sucks big time! This guy actually quit school and practiced 12 hours a day to reach this speed. Poor guy... I really hope he will learn to play with soul someday... Mayby i should buy him "Learn to play guitar in one day". He should draw some benefits from that book...

    Alexander

    Yet another DT fan

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:48:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shoe fly shoe Message-ID: <199707151648.LAA25416@enteract.com>

    > From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: hypocrites and that powerful force known as music

    > > We're ALL hypocrites. I HATE hypocrites but even I AM one, every now > > which proves my theory: opinions are not like assholes, they are like > nipples.... everybody has two of them :P

    LOL! That completely rules!

    > From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> > Subject: How far can one's head go????

    > <rant> Is it me, though, or is it when you try out ANY guitar at ANY store > they always hook you up to the shittiest possible amp? You would think > they'd want it to sound good so you'd want to buy it but no, they hook you > up to that twead suitcase with a speaker that is all thick sounding and has > the distortion of a Kirby electric vacuum cleaner. Nothing that mankind > could possible ever invent could ever fix one those thing (except maybe a > shotgun). </rant>

    That's an EXTREMELY good question. I worked at a Guitar Center for a summer, and I never thought to ask them that question. I think I'll call em up and find out. :) > artist's psyche in order to allow oneself to appreciate a higher diversity > of music doesn't seem to be a very popular practice here as I have now > been trashed for suggesting it. Either that or everyone skipped that > section of what I wrote. I apologize, it will never happen again.

    I don't think you made yourself clear on that point. What it sounded like you're saying is that if you only like QR's early work, up to and including O:M, then you're not a fan. That's at the very least, what you said to your co-worker. I think that's why people are arguing with you. Drop the I'm the Bafu Martyr act :) > building a mystery, > Bafu Vai

    Stepping on dreams,

    Chris Ptacek at EnterAct, L.L.C -- (773) 248 8511

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:51:42 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hops and too much time (was: Re: Tage List) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970715134325.17990A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>

    On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Trevor W. Hoit wrote:

    > >I tried to subscribe to the Savatage mailing list. But it came back > >saying that it hopped too many time(21 out of a 20 max). Anyone else > >have this problem? Or does anyone know what the heck is a "hop' please > >email me. Thanks. > > I couldn't get on it either. It said something like "Didn't recognize" > something or other. > I forget.

    Ok. Our not-so-technical talk of the day.

    When you have a site connected to the Internet, you make the communication between networks via a gateway, that is, a computer that "talks" between two (or more) networks.

    Ok. When you send your IP packets (containing, for instance, this message that I'm sending you), these packets have to travel through some networks before arriving at the ax.com computer, right? Ok. This path is called a route. The "hops" you just saw written in your message are the lenght value of this route. It is the number of gateways thru which your IP packets passed (or had to pass), that is, the number of intermediary computers between your host and the desired computer.

    It is usually agreed that paths longer than 16 hops are too long. Ask you sysadmin to check the routing the packets are taking to the computer hosting the Savatage mailing list.

    Hope this helps a bit, Roger...

    -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Luttringer <95fa467@dvc.edu> To: YTSE JAM DIGEST <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Attention Bay Area Jammers Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970715101030.17113A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>

    If there are any jammers interested in hanging out before the Fish show on August 24th at Slims in San Francisco, please let me know, I'd like to get a group of us together. Spock's Beard will be opening and the show is all ages. It should be a great show, and I am loking forward to meeting some of you.

    Scott

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:32:49 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thought Industry Message-ID: <v01520d00aff12b72fe97@[207.90.116.143]>

    i just got "songs for insects" when i went into Best Buy for a Tori Amos interview disk...

    TI is freakin' insane. i love it!!!!

    Dan

    ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Galactic Cowboys Message-ID: <v01520d01aff12bcc13b6@[207.90.116.137]>

    >Is the new Galactic Cowboy's cd out yet? Anyone heard it? >I thought it was supposed to be out sometime in July.

    it's out. came out today...july 15th.

    good CD. if you like MF, you'll like it. it's got more harmonization than MF, too.

    Dan

    ---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 17:50:27 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: O:M hospital call (QRCT) Message-ID: <M.071597.195027.63@wxs5-7.worldaccess.nl>

    Hi...

    Yesterday I saw "Bean: The Ultimate Disaster Movie" and, lo and behold, there was another occurrence of the "Dr. James Hamilton" (or some such) message that is at the beginning of "Operation Mindcrime". I know this is just a standard sound thing that is in lots of films, but for those interested, well, here you are. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ & Atari ST Emulation FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Keyboard not found. Press any key to continue." | \--------------------------------------------------------------/

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 13:30:36 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: No coffee responses Message-ID: <33CBDDEC.1D2@concentric.net>

    Hi everyone,

    > From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>

    > >> Compare Alice In Chain's first album to their latest, you'll hear a > >> difference. "Facelift" wasn't too far off from every other metal album I > >> purchased back then. > >Yeah, and neither was "Dirt," for that matter, and wasn't that released > >after the BIG grunge onslaught? > Humorously enough, these WERE both classified as "Heavy Metal" albums, > as were Soundgarden, until the Nirvana thing made grunge take off.

    Hmm, I could be wrong but didn't Dirt come out after Nirvana came out? Also, where the hell do you guys shop for CDs? Jeez, I've never ever seen a Heavy Metal section, or a Grunge section. The stores around here usually have DT under pop/mainstream, with Yngwie, and Warlock(yep, the Tower by me has them :)). > Kevin "The Monkey's Off My Back" Madden wrote... > >News: > >Well, I just heard that King's X signed a three album deal > >with Metal Blade Records. > >Opinion: > >This is good and bad. First the good. They will probably put out more > >records with complete artistic freedom. They will probably tour with > >other cool MB label-mates like Galactic Cowboys and Fates Warning, etc. > >Bad: little or no chance for commercial break-through. Poor availibility. > >Poor promotion. > Probably a lower level of production, as well. This is hard rock/metal > in the late 90's, guys - the good bands are running scared, and unable > to keep their major deals, because of the public's fascination with > "groove" and "image" rather the "melody" and "talent".

    What's wrong with groove? I remember a recent interview with one of the members of DT saying that they didn't groove enough, and that's what they were going to do on this next record. Does that mean DT has...[swallows] SOLD-OUT?????

    Also, who here doesn't like to laugh at the "image" of certain bands/groups/genres? :)

    John McCabe caber1@concentric.net

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:11:52 -0400 From: Jonathan Dery <metropolis@net1plus.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peruvian Skies chorus Message-ID: <33CBBD68.2091@net1plus.com>

    > BTW, if anyone can decipher the lyrics after "Under Peruvian skies...", > please tell me what they are.

    "Under Peruvian skies... Vanessa regretfully waits. The story unfolds in her eyes. Midnight hysteria's no big suprise. Battered and bruised, always counfused in the love that she's losing for hate...

    ..Poor Vanessa"

    -Jon Dery

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    Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:07:07 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Problems; TLF; WDADU; Qr = Ec?; the Mindless Ones Message-ID: <33CBE67B.19C8@concentric.net>

    Hi everyone,

    > From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> > Subject: Re: Cream of the Crop, No Fair, TI, and No bass on a DT CD? Yeah, right!

    > caber1@concentric.net wrote: [snip me talking about JM's tone]

    > man..what kind of cd players you guys have?? ..the bass is clear in > awake...maybe the parts when its harder to identify are in CiAW,mirror > and lie,but for the rest of the album its easy to spot,and its very > clearly there...as for I&W, its a little harder..but its still there and > you can hear it clearly...ACos is really bass heavy, with the contrast > of mike's drum..

    Is this just me? I really try to listen for the bass on Awake and I can never hear the bass clearly through one song(but I can hear JM on I&W, and ACoS). Does anyone have this problem when they go to the bathroom? ___ > From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> > Subject: Derek's Ladder, or something > Oh, shut up and go listen to To Live Forever.

    Just put it in your .sig, already! :) ___ > From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> > Subject: WDADU > While I don't think WDADU should be re-recorded and most likely will not > be, > I definately think it could and should be remastered.

    Well, besides DT not wanting to do it, and the label hates DT, and JLB & DS wouldn't get royalities for it...Yeah it could happen...

    Are you trying to take over the jam with WDADU talk!?! :) ___ > From: "Gordon Cook" <acook@tiac.net> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2751

    > I've heard this argument from Metallica fans, Queensryche fans, and even > Megadeth fans back when CtE was considered a sell-out. Look at the numbers > here. Conveniently, these bands just happened to have a sudden affection > for what happened to be popular at the time. Hmmm, I wonder why Metallica > and Queensryche didn't decide they liked to go a route more like death > metal, or a prog rock route, or big band jazz, or acid rock, or whatever > fuckin else they could have "evolved" into. I'm sick of everybody telling > me these bands are just evolving when all they ever do is "evolve" into > what is currently popular! How convenient for album sales! This is why Hero > of the Day sounds like the Smashing Pumpkins and Sign of the Times is right > out of Everclear's latest album. Flame away.

    Hmm, Hero of the Day sounds like SP? Well, maybe I don't have any Metallica CDs so I can't compare(yes, I'm saying that I have SP and not any Metawhatyacallit stuff :)). But Sing of the Times sounds like Everclear? What you smoking boy?!? I don't remember but isn't Everclear that trio with a singer/guitarist who sings like he has mono, who likes to write lyrics about women he has slept with(Black Girlfriend, I can't remember the other song but it was Santa something something etc.). You've got to be kidding me! The latest Qr may not be up to par with what you think Qr should be doing but Everclear? Ugh! ___ > From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert) > Subject: Re: Prog egos

    > And for the sake > of the gods of war, all you Marylin Manson/NIN/black hair/black > fingernails/I hate school losers, - cheer up!- . Sometimes a little ego > does well.

    NIN out and MM is in. And you can't JUST have black hair, its got to be black by the roots and shade of green/pink/purple by the ends. And to truely get the black fingernails look you gotten bruise them. Come on, stay with the program!!

    [side note: everybody I know hates school]

    John McCabe caber1@concentric.net

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