YTSEJAM Digest 2737
Today's Topics:
1) Re Puzzle
by gra@provida.no
2) Caprices
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
3) Backgammon, Monopoly, Parcheesi
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
4) shit...
by the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
5) Stu Hamm
by Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM>
6) Brain Teasers
by Scott Fuller <spacedye@rocketmail.com>
7) AMPS
by "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
8) AMPS
by "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
9) Re: Well well well... CDs a crankin'
by Gary Cleghorn <gary@tequila.demon.co.uk>
10) Guitars, amps, pickups, slight DTC
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
11) Hmmmm...
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
12) teasers
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
13) Train Beasers.
by "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com>
14)
by Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca>
15) Stump;Misc. DTC; dirty laundry;brain teaser;Primus quote;DT is a clone;Imposter speaks out
by caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:29:08 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re Puzzle
Message-ID: <412564D1.00491C5F.00@oslo1.provida.no>
One of the D-Man guys wrote:
>It can't be. If he walked for 50 minutes, then he could only get home at
>*most* ten minutes early. The question stated that he got home 20 minutes
>early. But that's a good try, and a great way to tackle the problem.
>We're probably missing something really simple.
The puzzle from Digest# 2734 was:
>Each day a man's wife meets him at the railroad station and drives him
home.
> One day he arrives AT THE STATION AN HOUR EARLY and begins to walk home
>along the road his wife always takes. She meets him en route and takes
him
>the rest of the way home. Had he waited at the station, she would have
>picked him up exactly on time. As it turned out, he reached his home
twenty
>minutes early. How many minutes did the man walk?
If you read the emphasized part you'll see that he arrived at the TRAIN
station 1 hr. early.
He was going TOWARDS his house, so if he walked for 50 minutes he was still
10 minutes before the ETA on the train station. He now met his wife not at
the TS but some
place along his way home. Let's say the ride home from here is 10 Minutes:
He would now
be home at the same time he usually arrived at the TS.
I think this Bill Nottingham <wen2@po.cwru.edu> dude sure is clever (or you
are too smart. Whatever ...)
-.profile
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 12:42:58 GMT
From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
Subject: Caprices
Message-ID: <M.071197.144258.54@wxs4-2.worldaccess.nl>
Some of you guys ought perhaps to check out Kevin Ferguson's "From Strad to
Stray", an instrumental CD with classical pieces played on guitar only, really
freaky and sounding hellishly difficult. The guy can be reached at
kevinf@teleport.com, or DeBone Music, P.O. Box 1646, Beaverton, OR 97005, USA.
I am sure he'd give you all the info you need. The tunes include stuff by
Wienaksi, Paganini (Caprice No. 5, Violin Concerto No. 1 and Perpetual Motion),
Vivaldi, Rimsky-Korsakov (the inevitable Bumblebee made infamous by Jennifer
Batten) and Bach. A tad difficult to listen to, but amazingly technical.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Pipe Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Backgammon, Monopoly, Parcheesi Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970711054257.67546I-100000@dante17.u.washington.edu>
> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:23:05 -0400 > From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> > Subject: Re: Return of The Imposter > > Imposter #2 is a funny goofball who does a perfect impression of Bafu > Vai ???????????
Geez, maybe it IS Bafu Vai ??????????? Maybe JOE KRUGER is Bafu Vai ?
> Does anyone really think its the same person? > Hasn't anyone caught this? Are you all completely blind to writing > styles?
I'm blind to writing styles!! Me!! MEMEMEMEMEME!!
> If you still don't get it- > Imposter #2 IS BAFU VAI. He's the imposter of the imposter who has > succeeded in getting the jam to hate the imposter and to ignore all > posts from wee.wee.
Yeah! And I would have gotten away with it if it hadn't been for you nosy kids!
> Sort of a more subtle rendition of Y&J Parts 1,2,3 (original). > Jam-deprecating humor at its finest.
I thought it was "The" Y & "The" J.
> How many silent, but otherwise intelligent, jammers are participating > in this conspiracy by giving Bafu the ability to do the dancing MESSAGE > IDs?
Dancing Message IDs isn't an ability, you have to roll randomly each time you want to do it. Sometimes it backfires and you might end up suffering 2d8 dragon-breath damage.
> I salute you Bafu, and promise not to plagiarize this time. > > Your Shadow
So then I'm NOT a vampire... (sigh of r-o-l-a-i-d-s)
> I think I'll start ripping off Adam now that Bafu has exceeded my lowly > abilities:
I think Joe is one of those people who has every negative thing anyone has ever said about him hanging on a wall in his basement so he can glare at them while he lifts weights and cleans his guns. Either that or he's just Italian.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:56:33 -0500 From: the-atman@juno.com (d a v) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: shit... Message-ID: <19970711.075634.10758.1.the-atman@juno.com>
Stratovarius - Visions who are these guys???? what instruments are in the band???
i think it would be cool as hell if DT did a complete concept album...not just part of one or bits and pieces that flow together like they do so well, but an actual concept....never ending dreams......
i seriously doubt whether DT copied anyone to death....who was that, oh shit i already deleted the last issue....oh well.....
found a copy of Betty by Helmut the other day for 5 bucks, went back to pick it up and the asshole had closed up shop....hasen't opened back up yet....damnit.... and there aint another shop with used shit in it.....
say, what about adding a violin to DT??? maybe we could get David Ragsdale previously in Kansas to come over and play for awhile...i'd love to hear what the guys did with this...... ok, i'll shut up Dave ---------------------------------------- Dig deeper into your soul. There you will find humanity. ----------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:11:51 -0400 From: Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Stu Hamm Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Commonwealth_Equ%l=MAIL_SERVER-970711131151Z-7625@mail_server.comequity.com>
To whomever asked what Stu was up to lately: all I've heard about was him doing the G3 tour. And I wasn't that impressed with KoS - the bass playing was phenomenal, but the songwriting wasn't all that great. I thought he could have done better.
By the way, I've partied with Stu before - SUPER nice guy, and he can drink like there's no tomorrow. He has a cat named Kevin McHale, for any of you old-school Boston Celtic fans out there. No attitude at all.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:34:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Fuller <spacedye@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Brain Teasers Message-ID: <19970711133424.2936.rocketmail@send2.rocketmail.com>
I noticed some brain teasers floating around the jam. Anyway, here's a link to my Brain Teaser Page: http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/6979/index.html
BYE!!!!
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:56:51 -0400 From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: AMPS Message-ID: <199707111400.KAA23256@zork.tiac.net>
Hey dooods, more amp schtuff,
> Well, even if tube IS louder watt per watt, > > How often does a solid state blow out? I mean, really...is it worth the > security that you'll never end up like Dave Mustaine and Vic and the > Rattleheads, in the middle of one of your thrashier songs, near the end > solo, and a tube blows?
Tubes rarely blow out. Petrucci plays with at least 20 tubes I believe (2 Tri-Axis's and a 2:90 power amp) at every show and I've never heard of him having a problem. It's really not a common problem and will only happen in an extreme situation, ie a power surge unless you get a defective tube. Tube amps will have to have their tubes replaced every few years, but worrying about one blowing is not necessary.
> Oh, this brings me to another guitar question: What pickup (bridge, > preferrably) from whatever company have you ever used that just blew you > away? Vince just slapped a Seymore Duncan Trembucker in his Ibanez and > MAN, that thing just wails (more)!
Steve Vai designed Evolution pickups with Dimarzio that are pretty impressive. Compared to the stock Ibanez pickups in a standard Ibanez RG, the Jem really had a much warmer tone with more power and harmonics. I have an Ibanez Steve's Special that won't blow you away, but with a mahogany body guitar I can get unlimited sustain with my Boogie combo on full gain. Not very practical, but it's fun as hell.
> I mean, I'm prolly gonna go out and > get my own trembucker sometime before this summer ends...
If you get a trembucker I can tell you right now it's not going to sound exactly like your friend's unless you two have exactly the same guitar. I'd say pickups are about %50 of the tone coming out of your guitar before it hits your amp. The body wood, neck wood, bridge type, and even the finish can also effect the tone.
Adam
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:24 -0400 From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: AMPS Message-ID: <199707111410.KAA23600@zork.tiac.net>
Hey dooods, more amp schtuff,
> How often does a solid state blow out? I mean, really...is it worth the > security that you'll never end up like Dave Mustaine and Vic and the > Rattleheads, in the middle of one of your thrashier songs, near the end > solo, and a tube blows?
Tubes rarely blow out. Petrucci plays with at least 20 tubes I believe (2 > Well, even if tube IS louder watt per watt, > Tri-Axis's and a 2:90 power amp) at every show and I've never heard of him having a problem. It's really not a common problem and will only happen in an extreme situation, ie a power surge unless you get a defective tube. Tube amps will have to have their tubes replaced every few years, but worrying about one blowing is not necessary.
> Oh, this brings me to another guitar question: What pickup (bridge, > preferrably) from whatever company have you ever used that just blew you > away? Vince just slapped a Seymore Duncan Trembucker in his Ibanez and > MAN, that thing just wails (more)!
Steve Vai designed Evolution pickups with Dimarzio that are pretty impressive. Compared to the stock Ibanez pickups in a standard Ibanez RG, the Jem really had a much warmer tone with more power and harmonics. I have an Ibanez Steve's Special that won't blow you away, but with a mahogany body guitar I can get unlimited sustain with my Boogie combo on full gain. Not very practical, but it's fun as hell.
> I mean, I'm prolly gonna go out and > get my own trembucker sometime before this summer ends...
If you get a trembucker I can tell you right now it's not going to sound exactly like your friend's unless you two have exactly the same guitar. I'd say pickups are about %50 of the tone coming out of your guitar before it hits your amp. The body wood, neck wood, bridge type, and even the finish can also effect the tone.
>Haven't heard Planet Gemini, but No Boundaries was a great shred album >indeed. He's incredibly fast, and without a doubt, the fastest in the >world.
Uh oh, this looks like another thread about guitarists where I will have to bring up JOE STUMP. You may recall his name from those adds in guitar magazines for his discs where it says, "Slackers run for cover, the ultimate guitar monster returns!". Nobody is faster than this guy and I'll tell you why, he uses a special technique that I've only seen a couple other players use which he calls "economy picking". It's sort of a combination of alternate and sweeping. Say you're playing a fast ascending run with 3 notes per string. Alternate pick the first two notes, down-up. When you get to the third note (and last of that string) down pick, but sweep down to the first note of the next string, so it's like a mini-sweep of two notes. This means that in 3 picking motions he can play four notes. I believe there was somebody else on this list who had Joe Stump at one of the Berklee summer guitar sessions and can maybe explain this better. Anyway, the results of this technique (not to mention his pure alternate picking speed and sweeping ability) are incredible. I believe at one point in one of his lessons he was playing sextuplets at around 200 bpm. If you do your math this adds up to like 20 notes per second.
Adam
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:45:28 +0100 From: Gary Cleghorn <gary@tequila.demon.co.uk> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Well well well... CDs a crankin' Message-ID: <00BlDCA4jjxzEwpE@tequila.demon.co.uk>
In article <199707110536.WAA04627@goodnet.com>, durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> writes > Well, now that I have electricity and am not living in the stone >age anymore, I just wanted to brag to the Jam that I created 26 CDs today. >13 hours of work!! And _that_ ain't too shabby. Especially because while a >CD is a-burnin' and a Prog Video Montage is a-copyin', ain't much else to >do but play Mario Kart 64. :)
So i can expect PT,DOW and VS next week then? 8^)
-- Gary Cleghorn
"Only one thing is impossible for a Vorlon to understand, how to change the IRQ setting in any DOS computer"
Lennier
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:18:19 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitars, amps, pickups, slight DTC Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-970711141819Z-379@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
Eckie said...
>Well, even if tube IS louder watt per watt, > >How often does a solid state blow out? I mean, really...is it worth the >security that you'll never end up like Dave Mustaine and Vic and the >Rattleheads, in the middle of one of your thrashier songs, near the end >solo, and a tube blows?
That is such a rare occurrance nowadays, you wouldn't believe it. In the last five years, I've never seen anyone, or had anyone I know (a lot of guitarists!) blow a tube. People actually believe in buying matched, tested sets, so they don't get defectives. You can tell when they're starting to go, and you just change them. > >And how often does a tube blow in Mesa Boogie products btw? I know >there's a 6 month guarentee...but if I went out and bought one of those >fine amps (no sarcasm here), I wouldn't have any money for replacing >blown tubes. Knowing my luck, the day after my guarentee wears out, >POP....no more sound from my somewhat newly purchased amplifier.
I doubt it, and Boogie is such a good company, they'd probably send you the tubes anyway. Boogies used to eat tubes (the tone would go after about six months!), but they've re - designed the amps to get more life out of them (about a year - which is about all you're going to get out of ANY modern tube amp - they all put a lot of stress on the tubes, to get that CRUNCH).
You'd never guess I'm a Boogie endorsee, would you? :)
Seriously, about six years ago tubes were so bad that I went to a solid state power amp. The Boogie amps and tubes are good enough to make me go back - there is no substitute for tubes. > >Then again, I'm still playin' through a Morley wah pedal and a little >Crate GX 20M practice amp. It's a solid state amp, and while it may not >be the amplifier to use for actual performances, I'm getting damn good >tone out of it!
Well, good is always subjective, and everybody's different, but I bet you'd like the tone of a Rectifier Solo better... :)
We all know JP does! (See, DTC!) > >Oh, this brings me to another guitar question: What pickup (bridge, >preferrably) from whatever company have you ever used that just blew you >away? Vince just slapped a Seymore Duncan Trembucker in his Ibanez and >MAN, that thing just wails (more)! I mean, I'm prolly gonna go out and >get my own trembucker sometime before this summer ends...that thing just >rocks, but if anybody else has ever used something that just pierced yer >ears and made you smile 10 miles wide, I'd be interested in that too.
I didn't like the Trembucker - it was too muddy for me. My personal favs are the JB and the Custom Custom - also both by Seymour Duncan. The JB has a real "presence" to it that just cuts through the band, without being too bright or harsh. It has a nice, tight low end, as well. The Custom Custom has a really sweet midrange that is great for soloing - it sounds really close to the Dimarzio Tone Zone that JP uses - which is not a stock one, I believe - must be nice to be big time! I think the SD's are constructed better than the Dimarzio's, so that's why I use them.
I could write a book on pickups, but then Skadz would throw me off for sure! :)
ANYTHING sounds better to me than the stock Ibanez pickups - but then, I'm a tone snob. :)
BTW, if you go out to Boogie's website (www.mesaboogie.com), you can see JP's whole rig, and hear some stuff he recorded, I think, for the videogame. It's pretty cool if you're a gearhead... :)
TTFN Mike
Division - DC Power/prog metal is alive and well http://www.crosslink.net/~division or human email division@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Pipe Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hmmmm... Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970711080705.20006D-100000@dante09.u.washington.edu>
> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 04:03:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > To: Pipe Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Phaghakneeknee > Message-ID: > <Pine.A41.3.95b.970711035522.20092M-100000@dante12.u.washington.edu>
Wow. This was a very interesting post. Even my message-ID was correct.
Sometimes the message-IDs are incorrect and sometimes the Subject: lines are nonexistant, but in this case BOTH are correct. Perhaps there really is more than one imposter...
In fact, if it weren't for the fact that my address has been "S. Borzilleri" for the last few months, I'd almost think I was typing in my sleep. Oh well, at least chameleon-boy knows what the "S." stands for.
> The Imp-Poster
That settles it. It's Chris Merlo.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:36:03 -0400 From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: teasers Message-ID: <199707111530.LAA16760@kira.ici.net>
>> 3. A ship is at anchor. Over its side hangs a rope ladder with rungs a foot >> apart. The tide rises at the rate of 8 inches per hour. At the end of six >> hours, how many feet of the rope ladder will remain above water, assuming >> that 8 feet were above water when the tide began to rise? > >I'm not sure of this one, but it sure seems like a trick question. I'm >going to say 8 feet, because the tide has to go back down sometime. I >just don't remember when that is, so this is rather likely to be really >wrong.
Actually, it *is* wrong. Since the ladder is attached to the boat, and as the tide rises, the boat rises, then the ladder rises as well. So the ladder will always be exactly the same distance over the water.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31 -0700 (MST) From: "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Train Beasers. Message-ID: <19970711153106.AAA7406@localHost>
> 3. A ship is at anchor. Over its side hangs a rope ladder with rungs a foot > apart. The tide rises at the rate of 8 inches per hour. At the end of six > hours, how many feet of the rope ladder will remain above water, assuming > that 8 feet were above water when the tide began to rise?
The answer is: 8 feet. The boat hopefully floats at a consistant level, unless of course it has taken on or offloaded a large amount of cargo which of course would be an undefined variable in which case there would be no solution.
eD
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:43:21 -0400 From: Lars Hellsten <lars@shaw.wave.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970711114316.007b2b30@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca>
>I'm sure you're wrong. You seem to be underestimating FW's talent. I >don't think DT could hold my attention for an hour the way Fates can. >Not that they couldn't pull it off, but it wouldn't be a "masterpiece" in >the same sense APSOG is. Who's got Kevin Moore working for them now?! >That says something.
I completely disagree. Almost any band could do a better job of holding MY attention for an hour than Fates. APSOG is so long and drawn out some of the parts are excruciating to listen to... not once have I been able to listen to the album from start to finish, I always fast forward becuase there are some parts that are either incredibly boring, or just suck. It's better than their earlier stuff, and better than Inside Out, but that's not saying much.
As for Kevin Moore, he didn't write any of the music on APSOG, he just played. They could've gotten any keyboardist to do that. They just happen to be friends with Kev. I don't see the corrolation between a band having talent because they're friends with a great keyboardist.
I *wish* Kevin would've written his parts for the album, and I wish he'd have written the vocal melodies, because Ray Alder wouldn't know what a melody is if it porked him up the ass. As someone else pointed out before, for some reason the guy thinks you're supposed to hold notes in the middle of a line instead of at the end.
And Matheos, don't even get me started... I'm not a guitarist so I can't speak for how talented he is, but I certainly don't think he's a very good songwriter. Some of his stuff is great, but it seems like he comes up with a few cool riffs, and then the rest of the song is just stuff that should be background accompanyment and certainly isn't much of a meldoy. Also, the bassist they have on this album just SUCKS.
So in conclusion, I think DT could write a better 55 minute song in their sleep. Flame away if you want, I am a FW fan, but I'm not one of these people who considers them gods because they wrote a fucking 55 minute song...
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:15:50 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stump;Misc. DTC; dirty laundry;brain teaser;Primus quote;DT is a clone;Imposter speaks out Message-ID: <33C67856.4A7C@concentric.net>
Hey tuff guys,
> From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> > Subject: Re: Neal Schon
> 3. Joe Stump - Supersonic Shred Machine
How come nobody has mentioned this character in the guitarist thread! Joe's really fast, but I can't compare him to most of those guys that were mentioned. Because I haven't really heard anything from them. ___ > From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> > Subject: Re: Portnoy speaks, QR stuff?
> I can't believe. I think that Labrie is living in another time. > Why, let me repeat, *WHY* would the band not release a long album??
Maybe LaBrie is living in another time but I know he's not living in a fucking circus. :) But seriously its not LaBrie that's holding up M2(the song not the channel), it's the whole band(including MP). They want the album to have other stuff besides that monster fucker. :)
> Which is the length of Metropolis pt. II?? Is it the 22 minutes > song as I've heard?? Or not? But I'd really love a long song... :-)
Last time anyone on the jam said anything about the time of M2. It was closer to 30 munites, maybe about 28. But that person could be talking out their ass, and, that's just the demo time. > Well, if Metropolis pt. 2 ended being an imported CD single, > things would be like the Lie or The Silent Man single. In other words, a > lot of die-hard fans would not have the item. :-(
It'll probably be an EP like ACoS, if every jammer wrote to the label. Or it could also come out in a fan club CD if we bug Neil. :) ___ > From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: Primus/Laundry
> And speaking of Primus, has anybody heard Herb's new band, Laundry? It's > supposed to have a Crimson-ish influence (or so I have been told), and I'd > like to hear some opinions on it...
I've never heard them so just skip this part of my post. ;) But I think Laundry was just project band. They made one album, and, that was awhile ago(2 or 3 years). ___ > From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> > Subject: Well well well... CDs a crankin'
> Well, now that I have electricity and am not living in the stone > age anymore, I just wanted to brag to the Jam that I created 26 CDs today. > 13 hours of work!! And _that_ ain't too shabby. Especially because while a > CD is a-burnin' and a Prog Video Montage is a-copyin', ain't much else to > do but play Mario Kart 64. :)
I've got a brain teaser. What's Mike's monthly electric bill. Don't cheat Mike by looking at the bill! :) ___ > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:29:12 -0500 > El subjecto: Spelling, Ivanhoe, Portnoy, QR's Silent Lucidity
Is this what happens when you have small and insignificant genitilia. Everyone, pray for me. ;) ___ > From: al587725@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Marcelo Martinelli) > Subject: "Il Baleto di Bronzo" (DTC!) > Hi , I wanted to comment on a recent discussion I had with a friend > of mine. While bringing the topic of DT with him , he said to me that he > didn't like DT that much because they weren't original in the music they > made. While mentioning that bands like Rush , Yes , Journey , Kansas , ELP > among others were their main influences he said to me that there was one > band which is where DT supposedly derived all their musical ideas. He told > me abouth this 70's Italian band called "Il Baleto di Bronzo" which in his > words practically invented progressive rock music. Later he played me their > really unique and out of print CD and it was an amazing show of musicianship > and virtuosity for the time of the release (1972-73).
If this band was doing what DT is doing now, they're amazing in *any* time period. Except when I make my first album, I'll kick everyone else's ass. I know all the music theory there is to know. So there. [I'm impostering the average Swede who lives on the other side of the world because he would be killed if he stayed anywhere for too long] :)
> Anyways I just want to > know if anybody knows about this band and if it is an influence of DT > because my friend says that DT probably won't openly say that "Il Baleto di > Bronzo" is their main influence because it would be like revealing their > secret band from where they get their ideas. I just want to know what the > Ytsejam thinks of this discussion.
I really doubt that DT got their ideas from this band. DT isn't that snob-ish(but they are a little snob-ish ;) ), not to give credit where credit is do. That reminds me, I'm not in debt anymore. :) ___ The person who can't qoute wrote: > The Imp-Poster What are you trying to type? Impotent?
Well on that note, I'll say a foned farewell to youse. :)
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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