YTSEJAM Digest 2767
Today's Topics:
1)
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
2) GC and hidden tracks
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
3) Re: New Galactic Cowboys
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
4) F.W. in Phx.
by "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com>
5) Trader List Updated
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
6) Exotic Scales
by zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
7) Back for a bit...
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
8) Dave Weckl
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
9) Carpe Diem (for real this time)
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
10) Random Thoughts
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
11) The Violent Man
by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
12) Re: Dave Weckl
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
13) Re: DT Parodies
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
14) To be or to cease to be, Answer behind door #1
by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
15) Re: Dave Weckl
by "Dave Bastow" <daveb@magiclink.com>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2765
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
17) man i'm disappointed......
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:23:15 -0400
From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199707171520.LAA08951@kira.ici.net>
>These are the latest Fates Warning tour dates
>(some remain unconfirmed so check with your local venues):
Umm...I'm sure this is vital information, but can you guys who are posting
these dates get it together so there isn't one in every single digest? It's
quite a waste of bandwidth to keep seeing that list over and over again.
>Keep checking the web site for updates! --
I don't have to! I'll just wait for the next jam! :P
----And to whoever bitched about Mr. Farber posting crap to the list, and proceeded to RE-post all of the offending material back to the list again: Pot. Kettle. Black.
Please don't feed the trolls. (I know, I did it too. I'll stop too.:))
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_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________ E-mail: psull@ici.net IRC: DDictator WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html NP: Drain STH - "Horror Wrestling" ______________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: GC and hidden tracks Message-ID: <v01520d01aff3b134da2f@[207.90.116.68]>
>>>Space in Your face is good as well but >>>I really really hate the hidden tracks. >> >>do you hate the hidden tracks, ie the songs, themselves? >>or do you just hate the "hidden" part of it all?
>I should have worded that better. I hate the fact that the songs are >hidden. The songs themselves are great. If it was Geffen's idea to hide >those tracks then Geffen sucks...
well, geffen sucking is already a given... ;)
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:30:18 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: New Galactic Cowboys Message-ID: <v01520d02aff3b170e84d@[207.90.117.81]>
~Vince,
did you ever get "machine fish"...? if not, i can see why you'd be disappointed in the difference between SIYF and the new one. however, give it a chance. let's face it, they're not a "metal band"...just a band who likes making melodic music- some metal, some modern rock influences....
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 08:35 -0700 (MST) From: "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: F.W. in Phx. Message-ID: <19970717153541.AAA27940@localHost>
Hey Az Jammers,
Who's going to the Fates show @ the Mason "pit"? Does anyone want to meet B4 the show? Let me know.
Yste on dudes,
eD
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:13:19 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Trader List Updated Message-ID: <199707171612.AA24761@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello all, The subject says it all. Well almost... The list has been updated for the month of july, so if you want the updated version, e-mail me. As of yet, it isn't updated on Rogerio's page, but I'll talk to him. Again, this list is a reference for trades in progress, not a source for new trades. Don't abuse it. Oh, and Contact sucked. Don't believe reviews to the contrary. It was a pale imitation and combination of Close Encounters and 2001, I don't care when the book was written (I honestly don't know). It was at both extremes poorly acted (Angela Bassett, Rob Lowe, and John Hurt) and overacted (Jodie Foster and James Woods). Only Matt McConaughey was good in his role, but his character was pointless and irrelevant in most scenes. If you want good, intelligent sci-fi, rent last year's The Arrival: amazing movie! Only Star Trek: First Contact has come close in the past year. That is, of course, excepting the immortal three, the "Holy Trilogy"... heheh... -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://idt.net/~rmerri9/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com **************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:20:18 EDT From: zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Exotic Scales Message-ID: <19970617.122904.4319.20.zarnoff069@juno.com>
Some of these are pretty cool, especially if played with a drone:
Neapolitan Minor: 1 b2 b3 4 5 b6 7 8 Neapolitan Major: 1 b2 b3 4 5 6 7 8 Oriental: 1 b2 3 4 b5 6 b7 8 Double Harmonic: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 7 8 Enigmatic: 1 b2 3 #4 #5 #6 7 8 Hirajoshi: 1 2 b3 5 b6 8 Hungarian Minor: 1 2 b3 #4 5 b6 7 8 Hungarian Major: 1 #2 3 #4 5 6 b7 8 Kumoi: 1 b2 4 5 b6 8 Iwato: 1 b2 4 b6 b7 8 Hindu: 1 2 3 4 5 b6 b7 8 Spanish 8 Tone: 1 b2 b3 3 4 b5 b6 b7 8 Pelog: 1 b2 b3 5 b7 8 Hungarian Gypsy: 1 2 b3 #4 5 b6 b7 8 Major Phrygian: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7 8 Major Locrian: 1 2 3 4 b5 b6 b7 8 Lydian Minor: 1 2 3 #4 5 b6 b7 8 Overtone: 1 2 3 #4 5 6 b7 8 Leading Whole Tone: 1 2 3 #4 #5 #6 7 8 Arabian: 1 2 3 4 b5 b6 b7 8 Balinese: 1 b2 b3 5 b6 8 Gypsy: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 7 8 Mohammedan: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7 8 Javanese: 1 b2 b3 4 5 6 b7 8 Persian: 1 b2 3 4 b5 b6 7 8 Algerian: 1 2 b3 #4 5 b6 7 8 2 b3 4 Byzantine: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 7 8 Hawaiian: 1 2 b3 (4 grace note) 5 6 7 8 Jewish: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7 8 Mongolian: 1 2 3 5 6 8 Spanish Phrygian: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 b7 8 Egyptian: 1 2 4 5 b7 8 Japanese: 1 b2 4 5 b6 8 Chinese: 1 2 3 5 6 8 1 3 #4 5 7 8
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 12:55:06 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Back for a bit... Message-ID: <199707171654.AA28536@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, I deleted 30 or so of the last 40 Jams due to having some time off from work, so if I touch on some old subjects, feel free to not kick my ass. By the way, South Carolina rules (well, Charleston at least). Any Jammers from there? Why own two copies of the same album? If we're talking album as in recording, I bought the CD, then the tape of Extreme's III Sides album when I found out there was an extra track on the tape. Then I found out why they left it off the CD... Jazz drummers: buy any Branford Marsalis album with Tain Watts on drums, or any Miles Davis with Tony Williams. These guys are sick. And I won't even mention Buddy... Used CD stores in NJ? I live in New Brunswick where we have the FANTASTIC Cheap Thrills. Also in the area are Barracks Trading Post, The Record Setter, Sam Goody, and my favorite CD World. And did I mention Contact sucked? -- ______________________________________________________________ "Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter..." -Yoda, the Jedi Master ______________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit names or request a copy, mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com To view the list: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/ytselist.txt -------------------------------------------------------------- --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://idt.net/~rmerri9/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com **************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:13:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dave Weckl Message-ID: <199707171713.NAA10363@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
Anyone hear of Dave Weckl (gee, that's a stupid question)
The drummer for Half Naked (whoohoo!) talks about him all the time, so I assume he kicks.........
You got info? put it on, amn - whatcha waitin' for....
-Al
-- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:22:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> To: YtseJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Carpe Diem (for real this time) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970717131603.3766C-100000@mariner.cris.com>
Yeah, so like a dipshit I accidentally sent some private email to the Jam. I hope this didn't upset anyone too much. :)
Anyway, I did finally get my stinkin' paws on Marcel Berkhout's 'Carpe Diem' bootleg CD, and I was wondering, the few of you folks out there who own this puppy, if maybe you have any idea how many of these gems were actually made. Much like the esteemed Mr. Bahr's CD projects, this one is numbered (and burned on a CDR).
Anyone know? Anyone?
Thank you. Bring on the noise.
Now Playing: The Future Sound of London, 'Dead Cities'
Rick Audet Dolby Labs
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:40:54 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Random Thoughts Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970717133018.8509A-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
First, to Joe: I found it necessary to get up out of my chair and roll around on the ground, cackling wildly, and worrying my neighbors, in order to enjoy "Gay Digest" to its full extent. The people that live near me are now convinced that I am unwell and need medical attention. Thanks. :)
Second, to MojoMan: Nice timing, ya goon. :) I couldn't have made up a story as funny as that one. Welcome back. :)
Third, to everyone: I thought of another one of those ways to tell how fucked up you are by how many CD's you have. The way I see it, there are at least three tribute albums that have members of DT on them, a couple of tapes (MMTBH and ChromaKey) that have past members on them (namely, Kev), and a handful of things that have *future* members on them (Winter Rose, etc.) How many do *you* have? Personally, I have three tribute albums (Rush, Queen, and Tull), one KevMo (MMTBH), and one future one (Derek on Brad Gillis' "Gilrock Ranch" album). Talk about a complete collection. :) Oh, and I'm sure I have a copy of the Wayne's World soundtrack floating around somewhere. Anyone know if that counts?
Fourth: Not to out-do Joe (cause that just can't be done), I'm working on my own parody, but it's top secret until I finish. (Like you can't figure out what song I'm mutilating. :)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:44:51 EDT From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Violent Man Message-ID: <19970617.135406.7511.6.george.farber@juno.com>
A MIND FUCKING ITSELF
I. SKADZOMANIA (Instrumental)
II. VOICES
III. THE VIOLENT MAN Music: John Petrucci Lyrics: George Farber
A Question Well Served "Is Violence like a fever?" "A voice never heard?" "Or a message with many receivers?"
D-Man won't ask Behind his email mask There's always one more ass
Has the 'jam been a victim Of George, George Farber? The imposter doesn't bother will he suffocate their faith?
Ytsejam to fall Going to KILL 'EM ALL Dream Theater binds us all
He has no reason (Tonight I'm Awake) Tonight I'm Awake (The Violent Man) When there's DTC, (DTC) Arrive the Violent Man
Death to all the jammers (Tonight He's Awake Tonight He's Awake (The Violent Man) If they have to suffer There lies the Violent Man
(a roknadz guitar solo)
Sin to all receivers He has no beleivers I could kill all the bald asses of violence And maybe they'll all notice
But this time I think Everyone should die...
He has no reason (Tonight I'm Awake) Tonight I'm Awake (The Violent Man) When there's DTC, (DTC) Arrive the Violent Man
Death to all the jammers (Tonight He's Awake Tonight He's Awake (The Violent Man) If they have to suffer There lies the Violent Ma-a-an There lies the Violent Man
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:43:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dave Weckl Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970717143811.842A-100000@viking.cris.com>
> Anyone hear of Dave Weckl (gee, that's a stupid question) > You got info? put it on, amn - whatcha waitin' for....
Mr. Weckl ain't a bad drummer. But I'm not one to talk, because I know jack about good drumming. The material I'm most fond of are Chick Corea Electric Band 'Eye of the Beholder' and 'Inside Out'. Dave Weckl, to me, is a motherfucker on these albums. And the music is kickass as well.
Rick Audet Dolby Labs
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 11:59:55 PST8 From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT Parodies Message-ID: <9706178691.AA869166405@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
Joe,
>Song #11 on _Ashamed_ the YTSEJAM tribute CD: >11. Gay Digest This was one of the funniest things I have read on here in ages... Man, that was good! <G>... If I keep laughing hysterically here at work, they are going to think I enjoy it here too much...<G>
>Others (I'm running out of ideas obviously): >Lifting Lyrics off a Boot - By Mike Kizer hehe... well, I would try to do this one, but then my employer would definately think I have too much fun here...<G>
~Mike
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 15:26:08 EDT From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: To be or to cease to be, Answer behind door #1 Message-ID: <19970617.153523.7639.1.george.farber@juno.com>
DO YOU WANT TO DIE? I WILL KILL YOU, MAN!
"Amen to that, brother!"
YOU WILL DIE TO! I WILL KILL ALL OF YOU!
MAY THE STREETS FLOW WITH THE BLOOD OF THE NON-BELIEVERS!
DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE! DIE!
AS ALWAYS - DEATH!
DIE, YOU IMPOTENT (IMPORTANT) SCUM!
A GOOD DEATH TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD DEATH!
p.s. hugs and kisses
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:34:39 -0600 From: "Dave Bastow" <daveb@magiclink.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Dave Weckl Message-ID: <199707171929.MAA25929@odin.ax.com>
>> Anyone hear of Dave Weckl (gee, that's a stupid question) >> You got info? put it on, amn - whatcha waitin' for.... > > Mr. Weckl ain't a bad drummer. But I'm not one to talk, because > I know jack about good drumming. The material I'm most fond of > are Chick Corea Electric Band 'Eye of the Beholder' and 'Inside > Out'. Dave Weckl, to me, is a motherfucker on these albums. And > the music is kickass as well.
He's got his own signature line of footwear man! Anyone with their own signature line of footwear has to be a God (or a basketball player...) I remember my drummer friend was all anxious to get a pair, thinking they might improve his drumming. he soon decided thereafter to play barefoot. Go figure... heheh...
KorgX3
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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 00:33:54 -0300 From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2765 Message-ID: <33CAEFA2.6F97FDEC@geocities.com>
Hi there,
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 23:48:08 +0200 > From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> > Subject: George Farber
I completely agree with Itchy. Sorry for continuing with this thread, but... I'm really not sure, but methinks that you don't need to sign the jam to post in the jam, isn't it? If it wasn't, then we would not have those "please, how do I subscribe" messages (that surely are not as often as the "how do I unsibscribe" or "stop sending me this shit", but they exist, believe me). Just a thought...
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/
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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 15:50:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Recipients of a Multiplicative List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: man i'm disappointed...... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970717153959.28511B-100000@moonpatrol.rs.itd.umich.edu>
art fair cd haul not to be had this year....last year folks had crimson glory, helloween, etc out, and this year they ain't got none of the stuff on the lists some of ya have sent (thanks btw, you know who you are....) (did get Steve Vai's S&R and the first genesis album, so it wsn't a total waste.....and spotted
there were a coupla bands that MIGHT have been mentioned here that I saw....any info on Sacred Reich or Fair Warning or eclipse ^^^^ would be appreciated...... partha
btw, I did see the last coupla Savatage albums (Hor, DWD), Fates' Inside Out, another copy of from genesis to revelation, and an album by that blues saraceno guy folks on here were plugging last week. all for $4 (used) out there, so if anyone wants any of those for $6 (includes shipping handling and my risk of heatstroke, plus the time I gotta spend figuring out which stores had which ones...... :)
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