YTSEJAM Digest 2773
Today's Topics:
1) re: NHL Music
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
2) Re: Fates tour dates
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
3) Modes, Baseball, and a Day at the Beach
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
4) Conan
by "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
5) Did somebody say....VIDEO GAMES?
by eckie@asu.edu
6) met parody
by David Alderman <dalder@ix.netcom.com>
7) interesting occurence
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
8) Fates in Philly/P. Lost (and special sauce)/Making Monkeys
by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
9) moods.....
by
10) Candlemass!
by
11) Prog tape swap
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
12) EGADS!! What have I done?
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
13) oh boy, you NMSers are gonna nail me for this one
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
14) Re: EGADS!! What have I done?
by eckie@asu.edu
15) Up for grabs
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
16) W.A.S.P.
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
17) Okee, here goes...
by eckie@asu.edu
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 0:58:57 EDT
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: NHL Music
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+IY2onA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
>Subject: NHL music
>
>...welcome to land of metal ;)
Totally agree. Besides being an awesome game, it's got a smokin' them song.
Crunching riff s and some pretty good solos.
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 00:22:02 +0000
From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fates tour dates
Message-ID: <199707190527.AAA19839@Walden.MO.NET>
> If they can go to all these places...
>
> WHY CAN'T THEY COME TO INDY!!??!!
Yeah, why can't they come to St. Louis!?!? BTW, I just saw where
Napalm Death is playing soon, not long after Meagdeth :). Oh yeah,
and Ratt is playing St. Louis soon as well :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 01:42:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Modes, Baseball, and a Day at the Beach
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970719012120.17469D-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Chad Martin <Chad.E.Martin-1@tc.umn.edu>
> Subject: Flame Bait
>
> Second: Has anybody noticed the difference in size between MP arms in the
> ACoS liner? His right arm is fookin' huge! Do you think that he's
> flexing that arm for fun, or is he just that much right handed? I know he
What actually happened is that, during the day of that photo shoot, Mike
and his drum tech, Ho, were trying to rescue a kid trapped in a beach.
(He was eventually rescued, but not before someone snapped a photo of
him.) Anyway, Mike was using his right arm to lift, and Ho his left.
Hence, Mike's right arm (as well as Ho's left, not pictured) got super
huge, because the kid was buried up to the knees. I hear they needed a
crane to get him out.
(Oh, and check the cover of ACoS to see the aforementioned photograph.)
----> From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: Exoskeletal scales > > : > Oriental: 1 b2 3 4 b5 6 b7 8 > : > Double Harmonic: 1 b2 3 4 5 b6 7 8 > : > : These are the same, too, just starting on a different step within the > : scale. > > that's like saying Phrygian and Dorian are the same thing.
Yeah, it would be more correct to say "They're two modes of the same scale," but who really wants to sound like that much of a theory geek? :)
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> From: MTeiper@aol.com > Subject: Jay Omega, You Are Not Alone... > > No, Jay Omega, you are not alone. I think Meat Loaf totally rulz!! I know a > lot of bad shit has been said on the Jam about him... I don't know what he's > like in person since I never have met him,
If you want to know what the Loafy One is like in person, find me on IRC some night, and I'll tell the story again. (It's not pretty.)
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> From: savafan <savafan@usa.net> > Subject: Savatage > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= > =3D=3D=3D=3D
Yes, it was written around the time of Images and Words. I don't know why they didn't record it till the Awake sessions. And, yes, the harmonies *are* incredible.
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> From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> > Subject: Need DT football team name! > > I"m gonna join up for the ESPN Fantasy Football league for > the Ytsejammers. We should all pick cool DT related names.
The name I wanted to use if I were ever in a DT tribute band would have been "The Crimson Sunset." Go ahead and use it, but I got dibs if anyone starts up a fantasy baseball league next season.
> How about the Baltimore Bafus? :~)
The implication that there would actually be more than one, I think, would scare the shit out of the fans. But imagine the giveaway days. :)
BTW, I just got back from my first minor-league baseball game ever, and I'm proud to report that the Pittsfield Mets beat the Vermont Expos 1-0 in a 3-hit game. Minor league baseball rules. $5 for a ticket right behind the plate, $1.50 for hot dogs, and -- get this -- 25 cents for a scorecard. And it's real professional baseball. Vermont's single-A team (before they were an Expos franchise, they were a Reds club) saw the likes of Paul O'Neill and Barry Larkin not long ago. I might have just watched a future Rookie of the Year play, or an MVP, or a Cy Young winner, or something. If you love baseball, get out there and see one of these games if you can.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 01:14:51 +0000 From: "Dale R. Newberry" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Conan Message-ID: <199707190620.BAA21128@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, just wondering if anyone caught Conan O'Brien the other night with Dweezil and Ahmet Zappa, and Primus as musical guest. It was one of the more, well, interesting shows :). Oh, Kenny Rogers was on, too :).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 23:50:41 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Did somebody say....VIDEO GAMES? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970718233429.6137A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
Heh, ya know what's great 'bout progressive metal?
Ya can play it with yer computer games (like Quake 'n Warcraft II) and they don't repeat until every 10-20 minutes. :D I tried playin' 'Deth's new one with Quake, and although it's awesome thrash for most of the levels, the songs are TOO damn short 'n repeat over 'n over 'till yer sick of the friggin' song 'n juss want to quit to play solitaire. I have yet to try out my newly aquired Space in yer Face CD...but my fave Quake disc remains a toss up between ...And Justice for All and Awake. (Blowin' shit up to the sound of Silent Man is FUN!!!)
Yeah, I've noticed some of Nintendo's video game soundtracks to be pretty impressive. I think the one that stands out in my mind TO THIS DAY is The Secret of Mana. Shit, I plugged in that cartridge 'n within a minute I had another favorite game. Super Castlevania IV is another hot one...those songs kicked ass. I remember makin' a recording on tape for those long road trips between San Pedro 'n Phoenix with that soundtrack. And of course, the Final Fantasy series on the Super Nintendo platform were in a league of thier own. >;)
I'd still take my computer over any Nintendo, even the 64 bit one. I've played that, 'n it has some killer sound capabilities, but I'm not sure if it has quite the digital (voice) capabilities to match the background music. I rented the Star Wars cart 'n about all of the conversation was in text. :P If you want a REAL soundtrack to a game, go out and purchase Tie Fighter vs. X-Wing. IMPRESSIVE stuff. It hasn't been taken out of my 'puter drive all week long.
But I digest...
Motley Crue 'n Live were on the Leno 'n Letterman shows (respectively) tonight. Does anybody have the dates for Megadeth making any such appearances? I know, this is a DT list....I was kicked off the Deth list a while back for being a friend of Vince's. :P So I'd appreciate any insight on that.
Dontcha worry, I'll bring more DTC next time kiddies!
~Eckie's all out for now
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 02:16:41 -0500 From: David Alderman <dalder@ix.netcom.com> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: met parody Message-ID: <33D069D3.A5CF6F75@ix.netcom.com>
The Ytsejam Arrived four a day Filled with death threats and flames The vets shed a tear And drank down a beer The Ytse-drinking game They'll never outgrow
Death is the first threat from Farber
There's no more flameage Al and Pat will be confined to this bald behind
I was told there's a flame response for each post that I try I was told there's a new comeback line for each thats been tried I was told there'd be no one on irc when I'm bored and can't get laid I was told if you demand to be unsubscribed, You'll find your mailbox bombarded with a flood of flames
As a newbie, I thought I could post without fear of reprisals As a vet, I've heard it's all found in the FAQ D-Man maintains it for our aid
Somewhere like a scene from a memory There's a jam I used to love Evading flames from faceless imposters Its gone away and may never be heard from again
Superior has a guitarist named Bernd
Portnoy has no hair, unlike Marge Simpson's beehive Bafu's cool posts are enough to keep this list alive..... For a time...
Before Doc Mosh comes calling Before Hand begs for porn There must be the Happe dance and Harmonies on To Live Forever Mosh bot watches and thoughtfully smiles at Id, Pellaz, Ker, and M-Bone
Peace can only take place when the struggle between Pat and Albert has ended Now V_Clortho hopes that the jam will return
When DT release Falling Into Infinity
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 02:18:17 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: interesting occurence Message-ID: <19970719061836.AAA10195@sni.pananet.com>
So was talking to a buddy of mine on the phone, to whom I had once given a mix of DT to see if he liked it, but most importantly to let him hear Space-Dye Vest, because once he used to joke that he had fallen in love with a chic on Seventeen magazine.
But he never commented on it, so I imagined he wasn't really impressed.
So today we're talking about the U.S. in general, (since he's studying there, and I'm planning to as well) and the conversation eventually drifted into how Miami is actually hotter than Panama. And I blurted out "Yeah, it's a dry heat"
At that very moment, I really could not rememebr from where I got that, but we both started laughing, and to my surprise he said:
"Dream Theater, right?"
"Uh, yeah!"
And then he started mimicking the "but *I* love you" sample (in a very funny english accent)
Just nice to know he liked it enough to remember the samples:)
Ernie
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:40:27 -0400 From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates in Philly/P. Lost (and special sauce)/Making Monkeys Message-ID: <199707190840.EAA30248@darkstar.icdc.com>
I finally got off my duff and called the Trocadero today. To those of you even lazier than I, tix for the Fates Warning show (I forget who they said the opener was - something with a C?) will go on sale "Monday or Tuesday" of next week. The girl I spoke to didn't seem to have the full clue, but at least she had a fraction of one. Also, if anyone's interested, two nights prior to the Fateshow Powerman 5000's playing with Coal Chamber ("People, people!!"). I don't care for either of those bands, but, hey, "humanitarian" is my middle name...
Paradise Lost "Draconian Times", one of the discs I bought at the used CD store for a mere $6, is, upon fifth or so listen, an excellent album. I heard mention that their new one is *better*? Hrmmmm...makes one think...
>In an earlier post someone wrote at the bottom of their post.... >"I don't make monkeys, I just train them!" -- P.W. Herman > >I think that it should have been: > >"I don't make monkeys, I spank them" P.W. Herman
Might be if I were talking about Pee-Wee. But that quote I attributed to Paul Wallace Herman, you know, the guy who played the youngest Tanner, Bryan, on TV's "ALF", and who can currently be seen playing industrial-marimbas for Marilyn Manson? That one. (And what a lil' cutey!)
Brian "Humanitarian" Henderson, Legocyberburlapiac Cyberburlap@icdc.com
"Before you get up for that final snack, I want you to know I've got your cat -- HA!!" -- G. Shumway
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:31:55 +1000 (EST) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: moods..... Message-ID: <199707190731.RAA12993@random.tpgi.com.au>
>When I'm in a really dark mood, not necessarily >depressed or pissed >off, but just one of those serious, dark moods, I like >putting on the >three Saviour Machine discs and playing them >consecutively each in >their entirety. Just shutting the lights off, maybe >lighting a >candle or two, and chilling out.
Superb.... I'll have to try that some time......
how about for inspiration and to restore faith in the world anything by savatage..... especially All that I Bleed - I don't know why, they just do.
for some reason the lyrics to the chorus of that song is a real spine tingler for me - Lord bring on the night, wrap it all around me, let it hold me tight, Soak up all that I bleed.
and a 'keep on fighting' song try Tourniquets - Broken Chromosomes
thats all zajk-
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:32:25 +1000 (EST) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Candlemass! Message-ID: <199707190732.RAA13051@random.tpgi.com.au>
Hey, i just recently got a copy of Candlemass' nightfall....
I agree - awesome.....
and then I said to myself .... Heyyeah.... I think the lads in Veni Domine must be big Candlemass fans.... (the influnce rings through) So now I'm a big Veni Domine and Candlemass fan
Wohoo. ;) BTW I could be completely off track and Veni Domine may never have heard Candlemass, but I'd say theres a big influence in there.
Thats all zajk-
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 02:43:09 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Prog tape swap Message-ID: <33D0700D.5BC6@auburn.net>
Hello everyone! The list of people that want to take part in the tape swap is growing, but more people are needed to make this a success. It won't be getting underway for a few more weeks, at least, but some more participants will definitely make this swap even better for everyone involved.
Newer 'jammers: This is a good chance for you to hear some of the artists you see discussed on the list whose albums aren't readily available at K-Mart. The only cost to you will be that of 3 blank tapes and postage, and in exchange you will get 3 tapes full of new music.
http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html contains more info about the details of the swap. So check it out!
To everyone that has emailed me so far, thank you for your interest. To anyone else that is interested, email me! You'll be glad you did in a few months when you get your tapes.
Take it easy, everyone, Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:19:04 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: EGADS!! What have I done? Message-ID: <33D07878.6BE7@earthlink.net>
Hey Jammers,
A long-haired has fallen.......
I mowed off my wonderful long hair today (sniff). After 4 years it was time for a change I guess. Not to mention that its a pain in the ass to maintain, isn't too comfortable in 95 degree, 2000% humidity in NYC, and that the hair on my forehead was so weak from being pulled back in a ponytail all the time that I didn't wanna go bald by my 23rd birthday. Now I feel totally dorked out........Oh well..at least the shock value of someone asking me what kind of bands I listen to and I respond with DISSECTION, HELSTAR, FATES WARNING, IN FLAMES, etc...and to see the look on their face will be well worth it! What I'm REALLY gonna miss about it is that its just not the same when you're headbangin' away at a great concert..especially a small club show. Belting out those high notes in the mirror after I take a shower just won't be the same. Its also great when you're drunk at parties and all the girls like your hair better than theirs :-)
Sorry if this has absolutley NDTC...but i just felt like telling someone besides Bafanculo ("Protectobots...form.....SODOMIZER!!) and Chris "Balkewiez" Ptacek (hehe) on #ytsejam IRC the other night.
"Enter Ivory Gates through hair now shorn......
bah humbug, Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseSatan)
-- _ __| |__ "When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __| maybe then you'll begin to understand | | Life down here is just a strange illusion." | | |_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 03:53:25 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: oh boy, you NMSers are gonna nail me for this one Message-ID: <19970719075428.AAA11667@sni.pananet.com>
I was looking through the Rush Deep Thoughts page, and, well, howz about some Dream Theater Deep Thoughts? I think that would definitely carry us up to the release of the CD, and provide us with some (hopefully) good humor.
living in the limelight, Ernie
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 03:25:37 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: EGADS!! What have I done? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970719032422.11266A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
SELL OUT! SELLLL OUT! HE'S GONE ALTERNATIVE BOYZ!
*cackle*
~Eckie with the almost medium-length curly hair 'cuz if he lets it grow too long it looks like Garfunkel's do
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 97 13:39:34 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Up for grabs Message-ID: <9707191139.AA00258@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
if anybody is interested, I might consider sellingthe following Dream Theater rarities:
Subconscious Lords Of Sound (2 CDs)
I paid DM 50 for each. Most offers will be considered.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Loreena McKennitt - The Mask And Mirror
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:05:53 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: W.A.S.P. Message-ID: <199707191205.FAA01891@f23.hotmail.com>
Hello Jammers!
To me,one of the best albums of the nineties is W.A.S.P.:The Crimson Idol.If you can find it in your local record store,buy it!You wonīt be disappointed.The singer (Blackie Lawless)wrote all the songs,and played the keyboards and rhythm,lead and bass guitars for this album. Only the drums were played by Frankie Banali.Everytime I listen to this album,it gives me goosebumps.To me,thatīs a sign of a good album. Also,the singer has the most powerful voice I have ever heard.This album is a theme album.Itīs about a young guy who gets fucked up by the music business and whose parents beat him up when he was a kid. -Vilzu-
"I was 16 going nowhere,will I see 17 alive? And I was running from the nightmare,I stand at the promised land with fire in my eyes. Iīm at the crossroad of my destiny and de- sire,Oh,God what will I be?"
W.A.S.P.:"Arena of pleasures" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:21:10 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Okee, here goes... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970719050923.2890A-100000@general2.asu.edu>
This is my first DT parody...excuse me if I'm no Wierd Al...
-=Confounded=- D-Man comes to early And no one likes Geoff Tate And we all fell for the imposter's bait The closet I've been hiding in Slammed shut right in my face
I know it's easier to flame away than ignore it, and let it pass. Behind this fake address I will spam Skadz will surely kick my butt If I keep posting NDTC smut.
AOLers are shaking Auto list kicking out dumb posters With the fright of memories Of Pat and Al's tape trades.
By a monitor lay a keyboard Of your bands and songs you posted I was gonna write about those hot Spice Girls.
And reading through the digest, We have these rules that none will ever heed. And from George Farber we can read, "FUCK YOU ALL! DIE!!!"
It's been a long long time, They've had a while to record now. In this year we've only seen the change
Queensryche to Grungeryche Metallica to Alternica Fates Warning to Kevin's Fate GC to Nirvana
Prog rock must be more than this What happened to thier Tri-Axis? Fender strats don't have the tone And Bush will always make me moan! I turn up my stereo The bass is slowly fading from the mix! And from George Farber, the local ytse-prick, "FUCK YOU! I WILL KILL YOU!!!"
Once lost but now I laugh When I read through the last batch of Bafu's posts I laughed my ass right out of my seat! I think I loved that Space Dye Vest parody most My box is full of ytsejams, I wanted to finish before I burned my yams!
I know it's easier, to say you're gay than being American. And Lars' posts insult both you and me
And now three more jams are in my box, Tonight I'll just keep reading them, Listening to Mike Bahr's CD's.
~Eckie
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