YTSEJAM Digest 2774
Today's Topics:
1) NHL97/Awake is too long
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
2) Re: Baseball
by Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com>
3) Re: Did somebody say....VIDEO GAMES?
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
4) Echolyn-As The World FS or FT/Silent Man promo cd FS/FT
by KevMan <kvill@flash.net>
5) Deep thoughts n stuff
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
6)
by rotsopmi@eew.eew
7) Selling out.......
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
8) Re: Selling out.......
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
9) for proof that even rappers can have some taste....
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
10) NDTC.....Dale Newberry
by the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
11) movie quote
by Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET
12) NDC:Angra-Holy Land sold
by KevMan <kvill@flash.net>
13) Cygnus is finally home.. + King Crimson, Jazz, and Dave Weckl
by "Cygnus, the God of Balance (Mark Hatch-Miller)" <cygnus@onfire.net>
14) The Killing Jam
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
15) These posts
by eckie@asu.edu
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 09:18:54 -0400
From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NHL97/Awake is too long
Message-ID: <199707191316.JAA05411@kira.ici.net>
>>But my all time favorite is the background music on NHL 96. Now *that's*
>>a theme song!
>
> Get NHL 97...welcome to land of metal ;)
I have it. The music is good, but I don't like the *game*. :) That's why I
went back to '96.
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> FW got some praise...on
>DT...well...hmm, er..."The first album is the best. "Awake" sucks.
>First, it's too long..." That's the whole quote.
And I'd be willing to bet money that when they said "the first album",
they're talking about I&W. Duh. They're doing the equivalent of slagging a
movie based on some review they read. I don't mind if people listen to
something and then say "Nope, I don't like it", because they at least gave
it a chance. I'd like to know what the 2nd and 3rd were to go with "first,
it's too long...."
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_____Pat Sullivan_____________________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
IRC: DDictator
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
NP: Drain STH - "Horror Wrestling"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:08:33 -0400
From: Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Baseball
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970719140833.006ae0e4@pop.mindspring.com>
yea D, you ever wonder why its so cheap at a minor-league baseball game?
cause the players dont get paid more than the president, vice-president, all
the members of the house, and all the judges on the supreme court put
together. i would like to see a game with the lousville sluggers once..
maybe get a bat signed =]
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 08:28:20 PDT
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: eckie@asu.edu, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Did somebody say....VIDEO GAMES?
Message-ID: <199707191528.IAA05500@f63.hotmail.com>
>Heh, ya know what's great 'bout progressive metal?
>
>Ya can play it with yer computer games (like Quake 'n Warcraft II) and
they don't repeat until every 10-20 minutes. :D
>I tried playin' 'Deth's new one with Quake, and although it's awesome
>thrash for most of the levels, the songs are TOO damn short 'n repeat
>over 'n over 'till yer sick of the friggin' song 'n juss want to quit
to play solitaire. I have yet to try out my newly aquired Space in yer
Face CD...but my fave Quake disc remains a toss up between ...And
Justice for All and Awake. (Blowin' shit up to the sound of Silent Man
is FUN!!!)
I'm sure it is-I've never tried it! :-)
>
>Yeah, I've noticed some of Nintendo's video game soundtracks to be
pretty impressive. I think the one that stands out in my mind TO THIS
DAY is The Secret of Mana. Shit, I plugged in that cartridge 'n within
a minute I had another favorite game. Super Castlevania IV is another
hot one...those songs kicked ass. I remember makin' a recording on tape
for those long road trips between San Pedro 'n Phoenix with that
soundtrack. And of course, the Final Fantasy series on the Super
Nintendo platform were in a league of thier own. >;)
Yes! Another Final Fantasy Fan! I LOVE YOU!!!
>
>I'd still take my computer over any Nintendo, even the 64 bit one.
I've
>played that, 'n it has some killer sound capabilities, but I'm not sure
>if it has quite the digital (voice) capabilities to match the
background
>music. I rented the Star Wars cart 'n about all of the conversation
was
>in text. :P If you want a REAL soundtrack to a game, go out and
>purchase Tie Fighter vs. X-Wing. IMPRESSIVE stuff. It hasn't been
>taken out of my 'puter drive all week long.
Yeah. I just wish they'd release the ENTIRE Final Fantasy series for PC
and/or Mac, though.
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a
kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:36:09 -0500
From: KevMan <kvill@flash.net>
To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Echolyn-As The World FS or FT/Silent Man promo cd FS/FT
Message-ID: <33D0ECF9.3635@flash.net>
I'm back. Got a copy of Echolyn's-As The World for sale @ $10 or will
trade. I also have a promo DT cd for the silent man (No front cover,
although I think that is how it was made). It contains the silent Man.
E-Mail an offer for buying or trading on this one, as I have no idea of
it's value. If interested, e-MAil me- kvill@flash.net
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:49:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Deep thoughts n stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970719123658.18914A-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
> Subject: interesting occurence
>
> So today we're talking about the U.S. in general, (since he's studying
> there, and I'm planning to as well) and the conversation eventually drifted
> into how Miami is actually hotter than Panama. And I blurted out "Yeah,
> it's a dry heat"
>
> "Dream Theater, right?"
Does this happen to anyone else? In normal comversation, someone will say
something to me that's either right out of a DT song, or right out of a
Rush song, and I immediately begin singing the rest of the song. Example:
Sane person: "Hey, Chris, how are ya today?"
Me: "Good, thanks. You?"
Sane person: "Well, I'm here, lying in bed..."
Me: "Palm of her hand to my head."
Sane person: "What??"
Me: "Nothing, go on."
----> From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> > Subject: EGADS!! What have I done? > > A long-haired has fallen.......
I think we all ought to observe a moment of silence...
> What I'm REALLY gonna miss about it is that its just not the same when > you're headbangin' away at a great concert..especially a small club
Yeah, but you're going to have shadow hair for a *long* time. You know how people who lose limbs still occasionally feel pain in them or something? Five years after cutting it, I still feel my hair whipping around, if I'm headbanging, or even just running, or something like that.
> Its also great when you're drunk at parties and > all the girls like your hair better than theirs :-)
Ahh, memories... :)
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> From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: oh boy, you NMSers are gonna nail me for this one > > I was looking through the Rush Deep Thoughts page, and, well, howz about > some Dream Theater Deep Thoughts? I think that would definitely carry us up > to the release of the CD, and provide us with some (hopefully) good humor.
Deep DT Thought: Wouldn't it be great to be a member of the band? Cause, you know, you could probably hear the new album before it comes out, or something.
> From: eckie@asu.edu > Subject: Okee, here goes... > > -=Confounded=- > D-Man comes to early
That's not what *she* said! (Sorry, had to do it. :)
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:29:45 -0500 (CDT) From: rotsopmi@eew.eew To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-ID: <199707191729.MAA27508@www.eramp.net>
----------------- El Subjecto: Atomic Opera, Q & A with Mike Bahr -----------------
[Atomic Opera] Who here has heard the new Atomic Opera CD, 'Penguin Dust'?
I just now visited Dan Temmesfeld's Galactic Cowboys page, and my jaw dropped when I saw that Atomic Opera finally had a web page. So I visited it, and to my good surprise, I see Atomic Opera has a new one. I about peed in my pants, because 'For Madmen Only' is so freaking good. I'm going to order this puppy. Is the only way to get it through the web page?
I could do without the child pr0n on the front. :)
Deliberate misspellings make you sound cool in this business, baby. In fact, I'd say it makes you sound cooler than a hootananny.
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[Q&A with Mike Bahr] I thought I'd just whip up a little question and answer session for Mike Bahr. Too bad I've only arranged the question part, but seeing as he'd look crazy for 'overlooking' these questions, I'd say it'd be safe to bet these will get answered.
1. Which of your discs is YOUR favorite? You can't name one so it'll sell better. The honest truth. I'd bet it's Acoustic Dreams.
2. On these CD-Rs, how are you making them 'counterfeit proof'? Take James Colberg's CD dupes of your previous discs. They're the standard CD-R with a magic marker title. (I love your service though, James, don't get me wrong.) Are these CD-Rs professionally printed on?
3. You can't be serious when you say you're going to strand us with one DT disc a year. Ok, this isn't a question. :)
4. You're always advertising that you don't make much if any doing these CD projects. Sounds honorable, but I could care less if you pocketed $20 out of $25. I'd hate to see you slaving over these things just for these ingrate, amp-connoisseur, George Farber-esque, D-Men on this list. :) Ok, this isn't a question either.
5. Will you ever do a wider release Queensryche disc, preferably not from HiTNF?
6. Would you ever clip Chris Ptacek's toenails for free?
7. Would you do a 'To Live Forever Chronicles' DT disc just for D-Man?
8. What facet of production is being done in a foreign country these days? :)
9. Where did you find a chick that's so into this stuff? I literally can't even force feed DT to any chick I'm with.
10. You have to be tired of plopping CDs into that burner. When are you going to retire?
11. Have you experienced any fraudulent activity or shady behavior by Jammers? I've always thought it would be easy to say, "Woops, I never got my disc," to get a duplicate in the mail a few days later. How do you protect yourself from George Farbers like that?
12. If the 80's was the 'me' generation, and the 90's the 'we' generation, what will the 00's be?
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Ok, well that's it for today, kiddies. Drink lots of milk.
The Impostor That Took the Ytsejam (Not to mention that I can spell 'impostor')
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:22:59 -0400 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Selling out....... Message-ID: <33D10603.6E87@earthlink.net>
> SELL OUT! SELLLL OUT! HE'S GONE ALTERNATIVE BOYZ! > > *cackle*
Yeah I was prepared for this when I chopped it off but I made sure I had some SYMPHONY X and WATCHTOWER in my car so I could reassure myself when the amputation was finished. Its only fueled my passion for progressive/black/melodic/shred metal.
On the topic of video games: TOMB RAIDER (not much of a soundtrack but the ambient tracks here and there are brilliant)..and my favorites for OLD Nintendo were Shadowgate, Trojan, Section Z, and the almighty Castlevania (pain in the ass Grim Reaper w/ those friggin' scythes)..and of course Kin Korn Karn of Pro Wrestling (ha)!
crud, Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseSatan)
-- _ __| |__ "When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __| maybe then you'll begin to understand | | Life down here is just a strange illusion." | | |_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:11:09 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Selling out....... Message-ID: <33D1114D.1F90@caribe.net>
Carlo D'Angelo wrote: )..and of course Kin Korn Karn of Pro Wrestling (ha)!
heheheh cool... i prefered starman thou.. that pink suit ruled!! :)
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com mailto:progboy@mindless.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 15:22:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Scorpions list <thezoo@u.washington.edu> Subject: for proof that even rappers can have some taste.... Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970719151939.15249A-100000@centipede.rs.itd.umich.edu>
...check out http://www.umich.edu/~ahtrap/redpac.html
partha
it has something to do w/ my beloved 1997 Stanley Cup Champion Red Wings....
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 02:36:16 -0500 From: the-atman@juno.com (d a v) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NDTC.....Dale Newberry Message-ID: <19970719.023703.11406.11.the-atman@juno.com>
well, i was curious to somethin Dale Newberry said, but his mail bounced so i'm goin thru the list........what about Ratt?? do you have any idea if they have a new one out or not??? c ya. ~Dave~ ---------------------------------------- Dig deeper into your soul. There you will find humanity. ----------------------------------------------
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:29:04 +0000 From: Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: movie quote Message-ID: <199707192334.SAA10598@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, I deleted the jam it appeared in, but to the dude who was asking about the quote that went something like (as well as I can recall):
"Breathe? You mean you breathe that stuff?" "Only when I have to." "Maybe that's why you look so weird."
I think it might be from the movie "The Abyss." I'm not positive on this, but I'm pretty sure. Cheers.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:38:04 -0500 From: KevMan <kvill@flash.net> To: YtseJam Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NDC:Angra-Holy Land sold Message-ID: <33D14FDC.2E64@flash.net>
I've sold the copy of Angra-Holy Land. With such a high amount of interest, I decided to post to ytsejam than to each inquisitor. Sorry for the waste of space, but it's nice to see much interest in such a great band (don't worry, I got rid of an extra!) Thanks, Kevin.
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 16:49:30 -0700 From: "Cygnus, the God of Balance (Mark Hatch-Miller)" <cygnus@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Cygnus is finally home.. + King Crimson, Jazz, and Dave Weckl Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970719164926.00734c38@onfire.net>
Hi everyone!
Well I just got back from two weeks of playing jazz at the University of North Texas State (recently named the #1 jazz school in the country by Forbes or something like that, and I believe it). The place was incredible, and for you drummers out there the teachers were Ed Soph (the head drummer @ UNT and a great drummer), Steve Houghton (a major LA session guy, youve probably heard him a million times on the radio without even realizing it), and Gary Chaffee (ex-head drummer at Berklee, and the private instructor of Joey Kramer, Jonathon Mover, Vinnie Coliauta, and the guy from U2, to name a few). These past two weeks were probably the two best in my life, and I learned more than I can even keep up with.. I am gonna be practicing a shitload for a long time.. I am also now an official "jazz-head" convert, but thats a different story altogether, and I still like DT and all that stuff so it really doesnt even matter.. Anyways, one of my fellow students who was in the intermediate group with me was Pat Mastellato, the drummer for King Crimson!! He is a really cool guy and a great drummer also, he did all sorts of weird polyrythym stuff that was really cool.. but he came to learn how to play with more finesse and better technique and learn a little about jazz, which he has really never played at all before. So here is some insider info for all the KC fans.. Pat said they might do something small next year (not a full album or a tour), but its not for sure yet. The last time they rehearsed together was around November I think, and Pat said they wont see each other again until December. Pat said there will be a new album and a tour in 1999 (seems like a long time, huh??). On the whole Dave Weckl thread.. Dave is a very great technician, but I am not very fond of his playing. In fact I am not very fond of anything on GRP Records, it is jazz, but it just doesnt swing. All technique, no feel. Ill take Buddy Rich, Elvin, Philly Joe, or Tony Williams any day over Weckl. BTW, he went to UNT and is a good friend of Ed Soph, and Ed wants to increase attendance, and I overheard a rumor that Ed might get Weckl to come to the summer drumset workshop next year.. with or without Weckl, I think any drummer who has any interest in jazz at all is crazy to not attend this workshop. It is opened to anyone ages 14 or older, and there was quite a wide range of experience and age, so I recomend this program to any drummer.
Mark
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 10:26:46 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Killing Jam Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970720102646.006e4770@powerup.com.au>
The Killing Jam
I.
Geoff Tate's voice now fallen Outing D-Man, who's this guy? All these posts left on the jam Get pretty dull, Page Down til I die
Oh...
Remembered are George Farber's posts Our blood he just wants flowing Who were the people? What controlled the Killing Jam That caused this boredom? Unsubscribing...
II.
Lowered deep, no DTC Imposter waits to out Merlo Rush have a song called 'Time Stand Still' Boy on ACoS looks pretty damn cold
Digests pile up and Scorch our minds Just sorting through so many jams Revelation warms a touch But still we don't seem to Understand
III.
Extended a view to just last week When I only received 9 jams a day Ignore Pat & Al's battle of wills No sound, no jokes, no scorching flames Skadz has risen
Sipping his poison, Dominici sings Yet another to convert LaBrie fans fallen KevMo from below This one controls The Killing Jam that caused this boredom It's not over
IV.
Evil genius his secret plan Impostor takes over the Ytsejam Is he really tall? Still here at all? Skadz must just make a stand
Only the profits from years to come Recording more music, DT's not home The petition's voice East/West's choice Can't stop the Killing Jam
V.
When I go back again Will it be the same? I've stopped the lies But still it's me they flame
DT is calling me Charlie D must return As he gets closer Was it really worth What the band has learned?
I'm in IRC And the computer geeks I hear Race to the jam to find One more flame appears
Noone is left out My one and only spam I laugh at what I've done I am the Killing Jam
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:56:21 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: These posts Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970719175302.1621A-100000@general5.asu.edu>
are the most DTC related I've seen in a while...
But I gots a queshun: What songs have ALREADY been made parodies of? And how many? Does somebody have a compilation of all of 'em? On a web site? I NEED TO KNOW!!!
>:D
I've already seen the Pull My Finger, 'n that latest Space Dye Vest is still the greatest I've read. Must read MORE!!!
Bwahahaha! Okay, I'm juss waitin' for my water to heat up for the shower n need somethin' to read. So post some more parodies dammit!
Mudding on Infinity infinitymud.com 4242 ~Eckie
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