YTSEJAM Digest 2776
Today's Topics:
1) The Ytsejam Parodies
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
2) Queensryche @ Jones Beach
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
3) did
by EricD91011@aol.com
4) Spinal Arch...Tap!, no good Savatage voters, 19's nothing, and freebees!!
by caber1@concentric.net
5) Deep DT thought
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
6) King's X--Mike Bahr?
by ClPuritan@aol.com
7) WASP Correction
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
8) Parodies again
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
9) DT Lyrix in conversation; DTDT; North Texas State
by "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
10) Eckie's Deep Thought
by eckie@asu.edu
11) Modes, Contact
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
12) Re: Sno good Savatage voters
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
13) trapped in sand, Zappa bros, modes/scales, enemas
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
14) DTDT's
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
15) Want DT T-shirt
by jescuder@uio.satnet.net
16) Fish in Philly (semi review)
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:18:51 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytchi Jam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Ytsejam Parodies
Message-ID: <01BC952F.4F5E1A60@Homm.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Eckie wrote :
> What songs have ALREADY been made parodies of?
These are all the parodies that have been posted here lately :
The Blatant Spam (The Silent Man) by Mike Bahr
Gay Digest (Space-Dye Vest) by Joe Kruger
The Violent Man (The Silent Man) by George 'DIE!!!' Farber
Metropolis parody by David Alderman
Confounded (Surrounded) by Eckie
The Killing Jam (The Killing Hand) by Nigel Bridgeman
To Post Forever (To Live Forever) by Mark Bredius
Wait For DT (Wait For Sleep) Mark Bredius
> Does somebody have a compilation of all of 'em? On a web site?
Yup, I do :-) I have been collecting parodies on the Marillion
mailinglist for a while now (21 so far), and put them on my site.
I wanted to do the same for Dream Theater... That's why I brought
up those parodies, in the first place :-) You can find them at:
http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm
(If you're going to order cds from CD Now please go there through
one of the links on my page :-)) I'll get 5 % in credit if you
buy stuff from them. Free cds for Itchy ! Check out their Cosmic
Credit Program if you have your own webpage... Really cool stuff)
> I've already seen the Pull My Finger, 'n that latest Space Dye Vest
> is still the greatest I've read. Must read MORE!!!
Can someone mail me that Pull My Finger parody please ? And other
parodies that aren't yet on my "Ytsejam Parodies" page... Maybe I
should *also* make a page for all those mishearings (Death is the
first Dancing Turtle, Blinded by a pair of dice... etc).
:-)
Mark
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 97 11:18:47 EDT
From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Queensryche @ Jones Beach
Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+ajWonA@tcx.tcco.com>
Are any of you Jammers planning to meet at the Queensryche show at Jones Beach
(7/30)? If so, should I assume that you'll be wearing Ytsejam t-shirts?
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 11:31:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: EricD91011@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: did
Message-ID: <970720113127_-2079110487@emout01.mail.aol.com>
the jam break. It has been so long since I have received one. Take the
time.
-Eric
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:00:04 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Spinal Arch...Tap!, no good Savatage voters, 19's nothing, and freebees!!
Message-ID: <33D27C53.1FED@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
> Subject: NHL97/Awake is too long
> I'd like to know what the 2nd and 3rd were to go with "first,
> it's too long...."
That's just it! They didn't have anything to say after that! Man do I
hate it when people misuse the word first! First off, it sucks!
:)
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> From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
> Subject: Current Ytse-Survey Int'l II Top 10 & stuff
> 3) Savatage (42)
Anybody else know why Sava is in 3rd? ;-)(don't flame me unless you're
on the Savatage mailing list, and, then if you do you're a SKIPPER!!!)
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> From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
> Subject: IRC
> Hey folks. I'm writing to let everyone know that there will be a very
> special guest on IRC tonight, at 9:00 pm Eastern time.
Hmm, I'm guessing the record for amount of people on #ytsejam is going
to be broken tonight!!!
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My sister was going through her CDs, and, she found this CD she got
awhile ago. It's called Hard 'N Heavy! Anyway, she didn't like any of
the songs on it, but, that just means I got another cool CD from "the
deaf one!" It's got stuff like The Wizard, Carry On Wayward Son, The
Final Countdown, How Will I Laugh Tomorrow, and some other good stuff!
:)
John McCabe
caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 15:16:55 -0400 (CST)
From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Deep DT thought
Message-ID: <199707201916.PAA10346@antonia.webhost.cl>
What must be cool about being a DT member is earning enough money to buy
lots of shampoo for the long hair I'd be required to have.
-- MIGUEL FARAH \ GCS/O d-(pu) s++:+>++: a26 C++ UL+>L++++ miguel@webhost.cl / P+ L>++ E--- W++ N+++ o+ K+++ w--(+) !O mfarah@puc.cl \ M- V-- PS+(-) PE++ Y+ PGP-(+) t++@ 5++ http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel / X- R tv(+) b+ DI+ D++ G++++ e+(*) h!>++ #include <disclaimer.h> \ r-- y? <*> "Trust me - I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer------------------------------
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 16:13:34 -0400 (EDT) From: ClPuritan@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: King's X--Mike Bahr? Message-ID: <970720161331_358106053@emout19.mail.aol.com>
Hey Jammers (Mike in particular), I enjoyed reading your description of King's X's body of work. Since reading that and Martin Popoff's The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal, where he greatly praises King's X, I have purchased both Faith Hope Love and Gretchen Goes to Nebraska. I am very interested to reread Mike Bahr's reviews and descriptions again now that I am educated on the subject. Mike (I believe it was you who wrote those reviews) if you could email me those reviews I would aprreciate it. If you no longer have those reviews, I was wondering if someone knows how I can procure an old issue of the digest. Thanks a lot. Mark
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 13:16:32 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WASP Correction Message-ID: <199707202020.NAA05876@ktk1.SMARTT.COM>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 07/19/97 05:44am -0700
Hey everyone,
Nah man, Blackie only played the Bass and did the vocals, the guitars were all done by Bob Kulic, Brother of Bruce Kulick (yea, same dude from Kiss)
The actual story, your close, the mother completely ignores the one kid (i.e. main character) and pays more attention to the main characters brother. The father who is an abusive father goes after the main character, beats him etc...but he totally praises the other brother. One day, the brother dies in a car accident I believe and I think it was at that point that the main character decides to leave the house and moves to the city, gets a guitar, rich, drugs, booze etc...(That covers about 4 songs hehe) then reaches rock bottom, tries to reconcile with his mom but can't get up the courage to speak to her. Finally, If I recall correctly, it ends with him wanting to kill himself. It's been ages since I've listened to the disc and it is absolutely incredible as far as music and story goes.
Currently Listening to Iced Earth: Dante' Inferno
Mark Smeets/Stranger0 The road to hell is full of good intentions. Say farewell, we may never meet again. -Bruce Dickinson, Road To Hell/Accident Of Birth Look for me on ICQ Check out the Megadeth Faq/Megadeth Webring - Circle Of Deth: http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/Front.htm My Page: http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:31:38 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Parodies again Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970721063138.00698438@powerup.com.au>
Greetings
OK, I've set up the site to house the parodies.
If you'd like yours to be included, email it to me and I'll put it up. I've decided just to include those that the author him/herself submits to me, so that people who wrote parodies they now hate can get away unscathed.
Send them to me at nigelb@powerup.com.au
The URL for the site is http://www.powerup.com.au/~nigelb/dt
Love, Spiff
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 17:03:38 -0400 From: "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT Lyrix in conversation; DTDT; North Texas State Message-ID: <199707202101.QAA21574@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>
> Does this happen to anyone else? In normal comversation, someone will say > something to me that's either right out of a DT song, or right out of a > Rush song, and I immediately begin singing the rest of the song.
Couple of weeks ago my DT-hating g/f wakes up and says "Morning comes too early", so of course I had to start singing "Nighttime falls too late, sometimes all I want to do is wait . . ." So she's staring at me like I'm nuts (quite rightfully so) - BUT, she did like the melody enough to listen to Surrounded and the rest of I&W later that day. Still not a convert though . . . she likes (whispering) . . . country . . . ugh! This is still a MAJOR sticking point for us, and probably the only one so far. We're moving in together in a few weeks and I'm dreading the arguments already . . . Mike Bahr, count your blessings (and BTW, where's my Precious Things?)
> > I was looking through the Rush Deep Thoughts page, and, well, howz about > > some Dream Theater Deep Thoughts? I think that would definitely carry us up > > to the release of the CD, and provide us with some (hopefully) good humor.
OK, here's my DTDT (Dream Theater Deep Thought):
You know that part in "Metropolis Pt.1" where everybody builds up to an orgasmic frenzy, then they bring you down to a mellow 3/4 interlude right before James sings "Before the leaves have fallen"? Man, THAT is some GOOD music.
> Well I just got back from two weeks of playing jazz at the University of > North Texas State (recently named the #1 jazz school in the country
OK, this brings up a music-related question that's been driving me nuts - one of North Texas State's great alumni is the saxaphonist who played with the Blues Brothers for awhile, and on SNL, I think - he's a skinny dude with long wavy hair parted in the middle, and a huge 'stache. Anybody know this guy's name? I think it's Lou something . . . Anyway, he was one of the judges at a high-school jazz band competition I played at, in Iowa in 1971 or 1972 - Yea I know I'm old, but this cat is even OLDER - he was famous then (and so was North Texas State in jazz circles). His comment on me was "Has great poise" - what the hell does that mean? He liked the way I stood?
Hey kids, keep up those GREAT DT Lyric parodies - I love 'em!
YtseFart the Elder
No Web page yet, but check out my son's -
www.demtrip.simplenet.com
DT midi's playing, and a humble DT page - he's mainly into Megadeth, as Stranger knows . . .
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 14:26:10 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Eckie's Deep Thought Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970720142332.18615A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
You know what's a good idea? After eating a steak and watching cartoons, I turned on the disco ball and played Erotomania backwards. It sounded like Electronica to me!
~Eckie . o O (Dust Bros., Shmust Bros....)
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:51:44 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Modes, Contact Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970720183004.18914D-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Modes & Football > > > that's like saying Phrygian and Dorian are the same thing. > > 2. Explain to me why they aren't. And keep in mind I'm unfamiliar with > many of the rules of, and systems present within, music.
The short answer is "they feel different." The longer answer is harder for me to write, since I'm rather an amateur at music theory, but I'll try.
(Before I begin, I will tell you that I can't remember the names of the modes, so I won't use them. Someone else feel free to fill them in.)
Play a C major scale, where C is the first note, D the second, etc. This mode has a name, but it's also called C Major or The Major Scale. Now, play the C major scale, but start on D, so it's DEFGABCD. This is called D Something, even though it's in the key of C. This is like the D Major scale, but with the third and seventh flatted. Very dark sounding.
Now play a C scale EFGABCDE. You now have a mode called E Something, but the key signature is C.
So, to say that Phrygian and Dorian are the same thing is correct as much as it is correct to say that C Something (I think that's Ionian), D Something, and E Something above are all the same. C Ionian and C Dorian are *not* the same because they're based on two different scales (even though they have the same root note.)
Just to obfuscate matters more, it's similar to saying that C Major and A Minor are the same. They contain the same notes, but have different root notes.
I hope that wasn't too bad.
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> From: "KorgX3" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> > Subject: DT Parodies (cont.) > > To Sniff an Armpit
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> > Subject: 'To Post Forever' > > 'To Post Forever' (04:54) - (Studio - from the "Die!!!" single)
Well, I guess I won't post mine, then.
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I just saw the movie Contact. I'm not much of a movie buff, but I know what I like. And I never realized that one movie could have *so* many things that I like about movies at once. It appealed to me as a techno-weenie, as a philosopher, as a cautious atheist, as a scientist, as a person who has loved and lost, as a mathematician... as a person. This was the greatest movie I have ever seen by leaps and bounds. (As a point of reference, before that my favorites included Wargames.)
NOTE: Ladies, don't take this the wrong way, because I don't mean this the wrong way. Guys, don't see this movie with any women, unless you have almost identical lifestyles. I saw it with an English student and an Education student. My greatest concern coming out of the movie was how, why, and when the pattern that Jodie Foster recognized repeated itself. Their greatest concern was how Jodie Foster got her hair done in two hours.
If anyone wants to get into a long-winded exhaustive conversation about this movie, e-mail me, because I didn't get one in real life, and I'm dying for one.
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:58:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Sno good Savatage voters Message-ID: <199707202358.SAA03550@parka.winternet.com>
> > 3) Savatage (42) > > Anybody else know why Sava is in 3rd? ;-)(don't flame me unless you're > on the Savatage mailing list, and, then if you do you're a SKIPPER!!!) > ___ > My sister was going through her CDs, and, she found this CD she got > awhile ago. It's called Hard 'N Heavy! Anyway, she didn't like any of > the songs on it, but, that just means I got another cool CD from "the > deaf one!" It's got stuff like The Wizard, Carry On Wayward Son, The > Final Countdown, How Will I Laugh Tomorrow, and some other good stuff! > :)
Hey John, Do you or your sister have any Savatage CDs you'd like to send my way? I know a ton of people who'll gladly take them. ;-)
hmmm... I wonder if deafness runs in the family. ;-)
Sorry John, all in good fun, just couldn't help myself.
> > John McCabe > caber1@concentric.net > >
Nathan Bradley -------------------------------------------------------------------------- savaweb@winternet.com Savatage Fan Web Pages Trans-Siberian Orchestra Web Pages www.savatage.com www.winternet.com/~savaweb/tso --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:50:22 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: trapped in sand, Zappa bros, modes/scales, enemas Message-ID: <19970720230751.AAA28524@sni.pananet.com>
: > (Oh, and check the cover of ACoS to see the aforementioned photograph.) >
Forgive me, but I do not see that picture...am I missing something here?
> Hey, just wondering if anyone caught Conan O'Brien the other night :>with Dweezil and Ahmet Zappa, and Primus as musical guest. It was > one of the more, well, interesting shows :). Oh, Kenny Rogers was > on, too :).
Could someone fill me in on this? What's up with the Zappas? New Cd? Any cool jokes/ mention of Frank?
> Might be if I were talking about Pee-Wee. But that quote I attributed to >Paul Wallace Herman, you know, the guy who played the youngest Tanner, >Bryan, on TV's "ALF", and who can currently be seen playing > industrial-marimbas for Marilyn Manson? That one. (And what a lil' cutey!) >
Are you serious? Is that kid playing for Manson?
: > just won't be the same. Its also great when you're drunk at parties and > all the girls like your hair better than theirs :-) >
That's funny, they always tell me that my tips are too dry and I should put something on them. >2. Explain to me why they aren't. And keep in mind I'm unfamiliar with >many of the rules of, and systems present within, music.
Basically, a mode is when you play a scale staring on a different root, for example, D Dorian has the same notes as the C major scale, only that it starts on D...E Phrygian starts on E, etc..
>Lots of people think the way you do, Ernie. No reason to feel ashamed, >it's me who's in the small minority with this musical topic.
such mature words:)
>You can come up with some really sick shit with an enema, too. (mask off)
well, I can't really argue with that.
>One word: "Stryder"
woah! That brings back memories
living forever, Ernie
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 18:58:43 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DTDT's Message-ID: <19970720230751.AAB28524@sni.pananet.com>
Some Dream Theater Deep Thoughts.... hopefully some are funny...
The original idea was probably to get Myung to sing on 'The Silent Man', but then they realised that the music wouldn't hold up as an instrumental.
I bet Petrucci originally wrote TSM about Myung, but he got pissed off about it, so they got in a big argument saying things like: "Eat Shit, John!" "Fuck you, John!" "No John, fuck YOU!". But then Petrucci said that he was kidding and it was about the Arabian Nights, and Myung fell for it.
It'd be pretty disturbing to have my soul spread before me... or anybody's soul for that matter.
Mike oughta shave that goatee, because if not, people would start thinking that Frank Zappa joined the band, and that could freak them out because he's dead.
I knew Dave Navarro was learning to play piano, but DAMN, I didn't know he was *that* good.
I told my step-father "I said so", and he was like "Huh!?"
learning to live, Ernie
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 19:49:05 +0000 From: jescuder@uio.satnet.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Want DT T-shirt Message-ID: <m0wq5XU-000Ok3C@uio.satnet.net>
I'm a DT fan from South America who will be flying soon for holidays to USA I need to know what exactly must I do to purchase a DT t-shirt, I mean it's not that easy to find one of them on stores. If someone out there knows any address where to order one of 'em, please e-mail me privately at
I'll be arriving to Florida on July 27th, so please hurry up and help me before I leave. Also interested how to get DT bootleg videos and CD's, please tell me how.
I've already purchased via Internet tickets to the Queensryche live performance in West Palm Beach, FL, on August the 10th, so if there's someone out there who lives in Florida, please also contact me to the address above to see if we manage to go together to that hell of a concert!!
Chao! Sorry for my English
Thanx!
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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 21:22:15 -0400 From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net> To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fish in Philly (semi review) Message-ID: <33D2B9C7.743B@enter.net>
I saw Fish last night in Philly at the TLA.
Mastermind opened....they remind me of ELP without Keys and alot more jamming.
Speaking of ELP they will be in Philly at the Tower (I think Sept 6th).
Fish was excellent. First time in the states in 11 years. This was his second show. I'm not to familiar with all his songs, but I know he played about 5 or 6 off his new one 'Sunsets of Empire'. Played some old ones and also a great mix of Marillion.
Sorry, but I can't remember any of the song titles.
I few funny things happened throughout the night. First Fish was trying to talk and someone yelled from the crowd and Fish said, "Shut the Fuck Up!" and the whole place went silent. He had great control of the crowd especially in leading people clapping (A WHOLE LOT!)
Then during the third song (What Colour is God?) he gave a huge introduction about the song and that it was kind of based on the movie 'Malcom X' by Spike Lee. When they started to play, they had problems with one of the Key monitors (I think) and took about 10/15 mins to fix - any way during this time he was being a stand of comedian - telling jokes and what not....he was funny as hell.
Then at one point a guy threw a TastyKake Huney Bun on the satge and Fish said, "What the Fuck is this? 'blah blah...." and at the end basically called the guy a dickhead (in a funny way) and made an ass out of the guy....but at the same time a girl through a ring on to the stage and he said that it was to small and he was already married and he was going to give it back to the woman that threw it. She said that is was for his daughter Sara and he kind of got emotional thanked her and I believe even went into the crowd and hugged her.
Later during the first encore, third song, Internal Exile, he came into the crowd shaking peoples hand and then started dancing with everyone. It was awesome.
He also passed out bottles of water througout the show 'cause it was hot in the TLA and during the first encore passed a bottle of wine through the people in the first row.
He came back for a second encore and I believe he did Penny For Your Thoughts by Marillion. (I know it was a Marillion song).
Then I got to meet him for a moment after the show, he was in a hurry to meet the people that had after show passes, but we were able to talk to some of the promoters and get a quick 'hi' from Fish. Who by the way is a very tall man.
A lot cooler then I expected, especially after reading his interview in Progression Magazine.
All in all a great evening...so if you get a chance to see the show..go! It is definately worth it!
Later,
Bruce D. Duesterhoeft
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