YTSEJAM Digest 2779
Today's Topics:
1) MP's arm
by Chad Martin <Chad.E.Martin-1@tc.umn.edu>
2) Deep thoughts
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
3) yeah i unsubbed....but my mouth is too big to stay silent
by ladyheather@juno.com
4) Ty Tabor solo CD
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
5) Re: Queensryche in Cleveland
by wax@sprynet.com
6) angra
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
7) Various Shtuff
by Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM>
8) re: Mr. Wizard teach us modes
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
9) Kansas kicks my ass
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
10) The Mets!, The Mutt :), The Stuff!
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
11) 6 lines of self-indulgent NDTC
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
12) Re: Ytsejam
by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2777
by Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au>
14) Bahr is THE man...Trading...
by Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com>
15) MODES - all there is to know about it (almost)
by Pedro Filipe <nop42880@mail.telepac.pt>
16) PornToys on IRC
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
17) Thanks
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
18) Dream Theater CDs for sale
by "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net>
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:58:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Chad Martin <Chad.E.Martin-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: "All 'Jammers" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MP's arm
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970721115629.19711B-100000@gold.tc.umn.edu>
I can't say I've seen the CD liner, but the cassette version of ACoS has
the buff right arm pic of MP. I know, I'm stuck in the past, but give me
a strip of rust over a CD any day. :)
Chad Martin
mart0312@gold.tc.umn.edu
chadbert@dnrc.org
O-
"You should never memorize something that can be looked up."
- Albert Einstein
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 20:03:44 +0200
From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Deep thoughts
Message-ID: <199707211709.UAA04998@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
It's a good thing Mike's child is a girl. Otherwise he'd have a lot
of explaining to do, why he wrote this line "My son's not so bright."
Raitz
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:35:43 +0000
From: ladyheather@juno.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: yeah i unsubbed....but my mouth is too big to stay silent
Message-ID: <19970721.130717.8606.1.ladyheather@juno.com>
I can't believe that Fates are playing at the LOWDOWN!! Of all
places....perhaps I should explain basically what the lowdown is...You
know those bars where locals go, simply because the sleazy clientel won't
bother you and the owner doesn't care if you walk up into the DJ booth
and screw with the CD's ( they have DT old Ryche and Yngwie)....where
they let most of the people out...then you and your friends sit till 7 am
drinking while a 40 year old man bellows about how he'd love to see you
and his wife.....LOL...well...thats what the LowDown is...a cheesy....20
people in the bar is a good night, used to be our home, you can play here
whenever you want but dont expect $$ dive.
Wow...I think I'm gonna enjoy this ;)
-ladydragon
PS if anyone needs a ride there from Boston I'm prolly driving in
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:33:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ty Tabor solo CD
Message-ID: <v01520d02aff914faf9bb@[207.90.117.89]>
I just got mine in the mail today!! It's called "Naomi's Solar
Pumpkin"...and it's only available via his/their website now.
Cool stuff. It's a great CD to tide over any King's X fan...
I'll post a review later, but for more info on it (ordering and such), go to:
http://www.compassnet.com/grump
Tracklisting:
Had to Move
Her Palace
I Know Everything
Walk with My Love
Hollow Eyes (from a disturbing novel)
Live in Your House
Without You
Boy to Man
Wouldn't You Like To Be
That's All
Later,
Dan
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Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com
"Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages"
http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm
Summer 1997 Update site:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:32:21 -0400
From: wax@sprynet.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche in Cleveland
Message-ID: <33D39D25.695C@sprynet.com>
Yes, the Queensryche club show at the Odeon was cancelled today, but
WMMS is claiming that the Blossom show is scheduled to go on as planned
on Tuesday, but it all depends on Geoff's recovery. Chris and Scott
said that he isn't even aloud to speak today. I had tix for the Odeon
show and I'm mega-bumming, but I was really glad to hear Scott announce
that the whole band will be personally autographing all of the Odeon
show tickets and WMMS will be sending them to all of the winners!!
Queensryche a truly dedicated to their fans and it really shows. They
are one of the true class acts in rock!! I hope you Blossom people
enjoy the show <or get one for that matter>...
The Ever Present Matt
-- "Some people fly and some of us worry; I'd risk it all to have wings..." -Queensryche------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:57:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: angra Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970721135605.13856A-100000@bdmserver>
I read in that Canadian radio station mailing list that Angra was roumored to have signed with Columbia/Sony in the US. This is good for those of us we dont want to shell out 25$+ to try an Angra cd...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:54:56 -0400 From: Nick Giannotti <N.Giannotti@COMEQUITY.COM> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Various Shtuff Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Commonwealth_Equ%l=MAIL_SERVER-970721175456Z-1244@mail_server.comequity.com>
Just a couple of points;
1) George Farber: once again proving my theory that animals should eat their young.
2) (Donning my full-body asbestos suit and adding a dozen heat sinks to my computer in anticipation of the flames to come) My comments on Dave Weckl weren't meant to be interpreted as him having to 'try' and sound as incredible as he does - he's a phenomenal drummer. What I meant was that he was trying too hard to groove and go with the feel of the music, as opposed to playing technically. The stuff that I've heard from him was utterly fantastic from a technical standpoint, but didn't have ANY feel to it whatsoever. Personally, I think he's a great musician, but I'd prefer to hear Vinny or Terry behind the kit, because I think they groove more. Please bear in mind that this is all IMHO, and I'm talking from a non-drummer standpoint.
3) Mike Bahr: you play Magic too? :)
Have a good one. -Nicholas
When you swim in a creek and an eel bites your cheek that's a moray!!
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 13:34:36 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: Mr. Wizard teach us modes Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+YntonA@tcx.tcco.com>
>From: caber1@concentric.net >Subject: No soup for you, and, Mr. Wizard teach us modes > >Ionian(same as Major) (W-W-H-W-W-W-H) >Dorian (W-H-W-W-W-H-W)
Great post. I learned the modes by using this method as well. I memorized them using "3-notes-per-string" patterns. You can really build up speed and practice alternate picking. The best part is once you know the patterns, you can play the modes in any position on the neck.
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:50:19 -0400 From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Kansas kicks my ass Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970721145019.00ef0e60@pophost.fore.com>
>On the subject of Kansas.........I drove to Nashville to see them open for >ZZ Top (actually I left after Kansas!!!). The sound was a little off but >man are they a great band. Since the original violin player is back they >are doing some really rare stuff. My advice is to see them as a headliner >so you don't miss songs like Song for America like I did Wednesday night.
I saw Kansas the other night headlining the Three Rivers Rib and Music Festival (Pittsburgh), which Kansas has been playing for about the last 5 years. I've seen Kansas about 5 or 6 times since 1991, and this time was by far the best. Like stated above, Robbie Steinhardt is back in the band on violin/vocals. Also in the band are the original members: Steve Walsh (vocals, keyboards), Phil Ehart (drums), Richard Williams (guitars). Billy Greer plays bass. Although Billy is not an original member (Dave Hope was the original bassist), he has been with Kansas at least since the POWER album, which also featured Steve Morse. The moral is, Kansas cut 2 of their non-original members, and with the return of Robbie Steinhardt, they sound like the original band again - even without Kerry Livgren.
The show: Aside from being delayed until after 11pm because of rain, the show kicked my ass. Not only did Kansas sound like the band of old, due mostly to the voice combination of Walsh/Steinhardt, but their setlist also the best I've ever heard, since Two For the Show.
Setlist (not in exact order): Point of Know Return Song for America Miracles Out of Nowhere Opus Insert Cheyenne Anthem Child of Innocence segment from the Pinnacle -> segment from Lamplight Symphony -> The Wall (similar to 2 For the Show except they didn't play Mysteries and Mayhem) On the Other Side Journey from MariaBronn Icarus - Borne on Wings of Steel Hold On Portrait (He Knew)
Dust in the Wind Carry on Wayward Son
When the rain fell at 10pm, I figured the show might be cancelled. Kansas waited out the cleanup, which took til about 11pm. As soon as they started Point of Know Return, the Rain started again, but quit after about 1 minute, thankfully. I figured the set would be cut down severely, due to the late start, but to my surprise, they played about 2 hours, until 1 am. Words can't describe how into this show I was. If you're even the slightest Kansas fan, go see them this summer. I hope they start writing again, and recording. However, I'd still love to see Kerry back in the band also.
Last thing: Steve's voice isn't what it was in the 70's, but this is the best he's sounded in the last 6 years. I think alot of it has to do with Robbie picking up some of the lead vocal responsiblities. Also, on big vocal parts, ala Song for America, Walsh/Steinhardt/Greer sound awesome on 3 part harmonies. They definitely have their shit together on this tour. I also noticed how much better Robbie's violin playing sounds than that young fellow that had been on the last 5 tours.
Gotta run, KAI
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:06:26 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: "<MikeP> my favorite poster is anyone that talks about DT." <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The Mets!, The Mutt :), The Stuff! Message-ID: <33D3B332.1DDC@mailstorm.dot.gov>
D-man:
> I'm proud to report that the Pittsfield Mets beat the Vermont Expos 1-0
Finally got to see a Mets win, eh D? :)
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Georgie Porgie: > hey! (in sarcastic tone) I'm George Farber...Blah blah blah...I'm a prick,
Albeit an extremely tiny one. (in a non-sarcastic tone)
Just keep putting it out there, pooch, hoping someone will OOH and AAH....
Some words of advice: If you wanna run with the big dogs, you gotta stop barking like a puppy :)
Oh, wait, he can't see this........ :) =========================
About that subject line:
Ok, so I'm at the roach coach getting lunch. This dude asks if anyone knows whether there's a Hallmark shop in the Galleria Mall (A decent sized, over-priced, babe-infested shopping mall in lovely Cambridge, MA). He mentions that some new Darth Vader limited edition memorabilia is coming out. I said something like: hmmm.....I'm saving up for the new Dream Theater release.
Now it was at this moment that that special, intangible thing occurred. It only lasts for maybe a second. That look that's a combination of amazement, joy and wonder. Savor it, cuz like I said it happens really quick, oesn't last long, and if you blink, it's gone. We both thought there just couldn't be anyone else that cool at a Federal building :)
Well, turns out he's into Helloween, 'DETH and a bunch of other bands mentioned on this, the prog list to end all prog lists!!
I wanted to give him instructions on how to join the jam, but all I keep seeing is unsubscription information. Something about a FAQ?
:)
Regards,
Jon
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:27:30 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: people who fall into infinity <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: 6 lines of self-indulgent NDTC Message-ID: <33D3B822.3B89@auburn.net>
> Got it? So what do you call the fifth degree of F# Harmonic Minor? > Heh. :) C# Phrygian Dominant. :)
Anna Lee will be on FiI This will make me a very happy guy
Poetic, isn't it?
Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 16:16:49 EDT From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: RKasper@aus.etn.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Message-ID: <19970618.015843.7511.1.george.farber@juno.com>
On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 - "Kasper, Robert" <RKasper@aus.etn.com> writes: >You're probably not getting the Jam anymore because you've been kicked >off of it by the list manager for being such an asshole. > whatever you say, man....
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:36:09 +1000 From: Nigel Bridgeman <nigelb@powerup.com.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2777 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970722063609.0069becc@powerup.com.au>
In a pathetic parody I wrote:
>Once again I have another shower >To get the fumes away > >------------------------------ > > >Another chance to have no life >Watching Leno in the dark
What the hell happened there? If there are any sad people who'd like the original, ask me.
Maybe Skadz is cracking down parodies as well... hmm...
Ah well...
Love, Spiff
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 17:10:24 -0400 From: Adam <alpineone@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bahr is THE man...Trading... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970721171024.006a3418@mindspring.com>
>> 5. Will you ever do a wider release Queensryche disc, preferably not >> from HiTNF? > > OK, I'll spill. I'm working on a full Ryche release now, with >vintage material from the EP/Warning/Rage era.
I must say, Mike, you ARE the man. I've been looking for something like this for awhile on CD and it looks like you're gonna hook me up. Just PLEASE make sure Roads to Madness and Screaming in Digital are on there if at all possible, which I'm guessing it is since their early setlists contained these songs frequently. :) I've been out of town lately but have heard that someone is keeping a list of good DT traders. If that person would contact me I'd be much obliged. I'd also be obliged if anyone currently looking for DT/Rush/QR, etc boots would contact me for a trade. I've got several DT including one of the recent European shows which is the best I've heard DT (including LaBrie) since I&W era shows. Your list gets mine!
Take Hold! Adam (alpineone@mindspring.com)
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:34:58 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe <nop42880@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MODES - all there is to know about it (almost) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970721203458.006655a0@mail.telepac.pt>
>2. Explain to me why they aren't. And keep in mind I'm unfamiliar with >many of the rules of, and systems present within, music.
Modes...hmmm....For those who don't have a clue about what i'm talking about, this scheme will certainly help you.
Mode Accidentals In C major start on:
Ionian no flats or sharps C Dorian b3, b7 D Phrygian b2, b3, b6, b7 E Lydian #4 F Mixolydian b7 G Aeolian b3, b6, b7 A Locrian b2, b3, b5, b6, b7 B
My personal favourite is the Lydian mode(Petrucci uses it a lot). However, it only works over certain chords. Try playing C Major scale over a FMaj9(#11) chord. Very very Steve Vai/Satriani. Any doubts, just e-mail me.
By the way: does any of you guys have any DT guitar transcriptions book?
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:42:43 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytchi Jam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: PornToys on IRC Message-ID: <01BC9633.1AE14280@Bajor.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
My compliments to D-Man, Dr Mosh and Skadz (hope I am not leaving anyone out) for the awesome interview with Mike PornToy :-) Great job guys ! I've been at last year's MTV Tori Amos chat and *that* one just plain sucked (lots of technical difficulties). But this interview went perfectly ! 85 questions in about one hour. Really cool :-) and also a great test case for a chat session with the one and only FISH (if he's interested *and* Skadz is ok with it).
Of course I asked Mike what his favourite Marillion album is, and which singer he prefers (Fish or Steve Hogarth). His answer :
Mike Portnoy :
Misplaced childhood Fish era And brave hogarth era Hogarth has a much better voice But fish is the more intense lyricist I love both singers and both eras
Maybe that helps if you are interested in checking out Marillion. Also, if Mike loves their music it can't possibly "suck", right?
:-)
To the question what other progbands he likes, he answered :
Not that it's a competition Marillion Yes Rush Genesis Spock's i think is the best new one Echolyn Fates Enchant is really good Anekdoten Meshuggah from norway
He named them *first* too :-)
Of course I've ALSO put together a nice page for the chat session on my homepage (like everyone else with a DT webpage I bet). I've cleaned the logfile up and numbered the questions too... Check it out :-) You can also find it on the "Under A Cyber Moon" site.
Itchy's Homepage http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/indexdt.htm (check out the Ytsejam Parodies page too)
Under A Cyber Moon http://www.prognosis.com/dream/
Mark ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ No matter what I say or do, it never looks _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ like making any difference. Don't focus all |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ your anger and resentment that you have. |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ Don't blame it on me. Don't blame it on me. |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Itchy's Homepage - http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:26:13 -0400 From: Dave <buster@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thanks Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970721182613.0069e988@ee.net>
Just wanted to say thanks to Pat Griffin and Chris Merlo for the transcript of MP's IRC chat. I haven't been paying attention to jams for the past 2 week cuz of work, so you can imagine how depressed I am tonight that I missed out on the chat :(
At least I can always count on other jammers to help me get my fix! YOU GUYS RULE!!
buster http://users1.ee.net/buster - When Dream and Doom Unite http://www.dhpc.com/ryche - Surgical Strike
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:26:35 -0400 From: "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater CDs for sale Message-ID: <19970721232713.AAA6614@matt>
Dear fellow ytsejammers: I have the following CDs for sale: 1. Instrumental-$30.00 2. Instrumental 2-$25.00 3. Home Sweet Home-$25.00 4. Live Images 93-$30.00 5. Dance of Eternity-$30.00 6. Lords of Sound-$45.00 7. Majestic Harmonies-$30.00 8. Another Uncovered-$30.00 9. Rising Power/w Mike Portnoy-$20.00 All CDs are in mint condition. only serious inquiries please. E-mail me at Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net. Thank you.
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