YTSEJAM Digest 2781
Today's Topics:
1) Cassy, Time Travel, Nothing To Lose
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
2) Where are you now...?
by djw@smtpgate.walker.com
3) TIME SIGNATURES...
by Pedro Filipe <nop42880@mail.telepac.pt>
4) Re: Queensryche in Cleveland
by wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
5) Scales
by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
6) Threshold
by Peter Geerts <peter@wina.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
7) Re: Time Travel
by alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
8) Re: Fates Warning US Tour
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
9) Re: Regarding Roads To Madness...
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
10) Re: more DTDT's:)
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
11) Lots of shit you could care less about...
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
12) Deep DT Thoughts
by Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
13) IRC chat
by SatchFreak@aol.com
14) Re: more DTDT's:)
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
15) Re: Schitzo
by "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@compuserve.com>
16) Can we have some more DDTT???
by Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Cassy, Time Travel, Nothing To Lose
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970722014214.71384B-100000@dante12.u.washington.edu>
Cassandra was a character in a Greek play. I don't remember the title but
I read the play many years ago. Cassandra could predict the future, and
like everyone entwined in Fate's thorny garden, she could never change
what she knew was going to happen. To say one feels like "Cassandra
fleeting" is to say that one feels like running away from the inevitable.
---- > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:33:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: Coop42@aol.com > Subject: DDTT (Deep Dream Theater Thought) > > "Ok, we all know about Mike's daughter Melody. But what about his pet > bird Memory?"Sent at 9:33pm, Monday, July 21st.
> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:14:25 -0600 > From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> > Subject: Re: DDTT (Deep Dream Theater Thought) > > Holy shit, man...that's funny as hell! :)
Replied to at 7:14pm, Monday, July 21st.
What the HELL? Did Vince build one of those machines from "Contact?" Does it properly summarize the situation to exclaim "What the HELL?" Is anyone else feeling kinda spooky?
----- > From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: more DTDT's:) > > That girl on the I&W cover is pretty cute... can't wait till she grows > up.
Why wait? She's gotta be at least 11 by now. Prime meat.
---- > From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Deep DT thought... > > You know, if I was that girl on the I+W cover I'd be carful of that > levitating heart in the middle of the room. I definitely would not want > to wait for sleep in a room with a flying, flaming heart surrounded by > barbed wire.
hahahaha
The two problems with the otherwise rip-roarin' soundtrack to "Nothing To Lose" are (1) it features a song by Coolio which bastardizes Pachelbel's Canon. I didn't have a problem when P.M. Dawn ripped off Tears For Fears, and I was able to let it slide when the Fugees ripped off Enya. But Pachelbel? That's hallowed ground, G. (2) Even though Keb Mo and Morphine are all over the soundtrack in the MOVIE, they are nowhere to be foud on the actual soundtrack ALBUM.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 11:49:30 GMT From: djw@smtpgate.walker.com To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Where are you now...? Message-ID: <9707228695.AA869540127@smtpgate.walker.com>
Hi, Been on holiday for a week and missed everything - gutted. Did Mike say that "Where Are You Now" hasn't made the final cut? - gutted again. This album is gonna be a stonker if that isn't good enough to make it. Cheers, Dave (a UK Jammer).
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:55:46 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe <nop42880@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: TIME SIGNATURES... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970722095546.00667ff0@mail.telepac.pt>
Can anyone please please please explain me how do time signatures work? What do 7/8 or 3/4 mean? What is the difference between 4/4 and 12/8?
Does any of you guys have a DT guitar transcriptions book?
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:15:04 -0500 From: wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Queensryche in Cleveland Message-ID: <199707221115.GAA13804@tddpd22.tddeng00.fnts.com>
The Ever Present Matt wrote------------
...but I was really glad to hear Scott announce that the whole band will be personally autographing all of the Odeon show tickets and WMMS will be sending them to all of the winners!! Queensryche (is) truly dedicated to their fans andit really shows. They are one of the true class acts in rock!!...........
----------------- Yes they are! The secret desert show, for fanclub members and contest winners only, is another example. They also provide special fanclub tickets *and* backstage passes to members and have a meet and greet before the show! I am really looking forward to the August 16th Dallas show! :)
Wade
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 13:35:03 +0200 From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si> To: "No religion, just music and DT" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Scales Message-ID: <33D49AE7.B38532AC@uni-mb.si>
All these scales > > Ionian no flats or sharps C > Dorian b3, b7 D > Phrygian b2, b3, b6, b7 E > Lydian #4 F > Mixolydian b7 G > Aeolian b3, b6, b7 A > Locrian b2, b3, b5, b6, b7 B >
Consist of notes that are in C major scale...
Take Mixolydian: g a h c d e f g ... Or Dorian: d e f g a h c d ... That's the whole idea...
All you have to do is remember the name of the scale that starts on particular note...!!!!!!! AND try NOT to be so smart with # and b. It's all in the notes and one scale... -- /--------------------------------#---------------------------------\ / Sebastjan Videc [StDeVil] | Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si \ #---------------------------------#----------------------------------# \ http://tferi4.uni-mb.si/~videc | I once could see but now at last / \_______(under construction)_____#__________I'm blind (KM)_________/
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:44:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: Peter Geerts <peter@wina.student.kuleuven.ac.be> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Threshold Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970722143743.14668A-100000@www.wina.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
Just picked up Threshold's Extinct Instinct this week. Wow, this is really one of the best cd's I've purchased recently. Now, does anyone know if there is a (good) Threshold website?
Quite confusing band name BTW. I searched for a threshold site at yahoo, I found one, but it turned out that that was another Threshold (from the US and not from the UK). On that site they stated that they were going to have to change the band's name because... they found out that there was already yet another Threshold from the US (bet they never ever heard of MY (british) Threshold. To make it all even worse there is a dutch band named Treshold (no H). That makes three Thresholds (two US, one UK) and one Treshold (Netherlands)...
Geez
Peter
------------------------------------------- peter@wina.student.kuleuven.ac.be peter.geerts@student.kuleuven.ac.be Jaarverantwoordelijke 1K wiskunde, KULeuven Voorzitter JVS Orion Mechelen -------------------------------------------
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:51:23 -0500 (CDT) From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Time Travel Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970722084651.12820A-100000@lars.acc.stolaf.edu>
On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, S. Borzilleri wrote:
> ---- > > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:33:02 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Coop42@aol.com > > Subject: DDTT (Deep Dream Theater Thought) > > "Ok, we all know about Mike's daughter Melody. But what about his pet > > bird Memory?" > Sent at 9:33pm, Monday, July 21st.
> > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:14:25 -0600 > > From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> > > Subject: Re: DDTT (Deep Dream Theater Thought) > > Holy shit, man...that's funny as hell! :) > Replied to at 7:14pm, Monday, July 21st. > > What the HELL? Did Vince build one of those machines from "Contact?" Does > it properly summarize the situation to exclaim "What the HELL?" Is anyone > else feeling kinda spooky?
well, either the time was set incorrectly on whatever machine sets the headers on vince's mail (which i've seen happen before). or, he lives in arizona, where they don't use daylight savings time. therefore, since they don't "spring forward", they are 3 hours behind EDT, instead of the normal 2 for the rest of the mountain time zone. thus, he could have read a message sent at 9 oclock eastern time, and it still would have been 6 oclock for him. or maybe i'm just on crack, but i heard it explained that way once...
-the ever present id
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 13:51:37 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com, voices@arastar.com Subject: Re: Fates Warning US Tour Message-ID: <33D4BAE8.63AA@mailstorm.dot.gov>
From: Michael Kizer
> Help Wanted: Anyone who is able to help promote Fates Warning's U.S. > Tour [...]
Have 'em come to BOSTON and I'll help!
Looks like 8/04 or 8/11 would be the logical date to weave 'em into.
The Paradise, The Orpheum, or if you're feeling lucky Great Woods (over 20,000 seats) or Foxboro (60,000).
Or even a college. I know a few people from BU who might go :)
Think BIG!
Regards,
Jon -- *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Regarding Roads To Madness... Message-ID: <199707221400.KAA04337@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> P.S. - Does anyone know what happened to the band Mutha's Day Out? "My Soul > Is Wet" is an AWESOME album... and I haven't heard "boo" from 'em since! > > NOW PLAYING: Big Surprise... Mutha's Day Out "My Soul Is Wet" >
You might want to ask Paul Cashman, who's on this list....I am pretty sure that he knows a lot about these guys.... You can check out his homepage at:
hopefully, I'm right...
Al
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I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: more DTDT's:) Message-ID: <199707221409.KAA09003@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> Tht girl on the I&W cover is pretty cute... can't wait till she grows up.
This one had me rolling for a LONG time.......I said the same thing when I saw the "Another Day" video......well, actually I didn't say I can't wait til she grows up, but that she will definitely be a knockout when she's older....man, guys are pigs...
but seriously , if I ever had a daughter, that's what I would want her to look like.....wait, that sounds pretty crude....I mean, when I picture my daughter, that what she would look like.......wait...........oh, nevermind, hopefully you people will turn off your sick minds are understand what I kinda meant.
with foot in mouth,
Al
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I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:28:48 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lots of shit you could care less about... Message-ID: <199707221528.AA22737@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, Plowing through 15 or so Jams, made it halfway methinks. I've been posting a lot less than usual (stop cheering). To any and all who might care, I retrieved all that was stolen from me. All my CDs are back in my possession and I only have to live in fear for 2.5 more weeks before I move. Pretty cool, eh? Oh, and join the (prog) tape swap. Go to Swifty's page. Submit. From Mr. Blevins, on Contact: >Man, that settles it - the only thing we will EVER agree on is SOME >music. The Arrival? Give me a break...
Ahem... So you don't care for my taste in sci-fi sir? I have to say that I would have given Contact a passing review had it not been for one key scene. You see, the entire movie was about taking people and things on faith: i.e., Jodie Foster took the existence of aliens on faith, Matt McConaughey took God on faith, and the people of the world (and the audience) were supposed to take Jodie on faith for her story about her trip. But the maker of Contact, the of-late unreliable Zemeckis, didn't think we , the audience, were intelligent enough to see this, so he put in the scene with Angela Bassett and James Woods about the 18 hours of static to MAKE you believe her, therefore violating the intent of the movie. Apparently, Mr. Zemeckis has little FAITH in the viewer. And this WAS the interpretation Zemeckis intended, as he has said in interviews. But all of this was on top of the lousy performances and the overall self-importance of the movie. I was more impressed with Zemeckis's Back to the Future movies than this one. Oh, and I put The Arrival in my ten best from last year, just so you know. My recommendation for this week: go to the video store and rent Lone Star. Fantastic writing and directing. Unlike some sci-fi movies... The goon: >"rev. daddy love"
Every time I try to remember this band's name, someone says Reverend Horton Heat, and I tell them no, it's a different band. Then they say I'm a moron and there's only one band with Reverend in the name. Thanks for making me right. For once. Brian, on farber: >the first jammer to complain about it gets kicked off the list.
And what about then other hundred who do? I think Brian just wants to make sure he's exempt...:)
>would it be possible for someone who owns the Lie and Silent Man >singles to make me a CD - R of them?
I second this idea. The Lie single is something I miss having on CD in my library...
>I know there is at least one Vernon Reid fan on this list <G>...
Does that make me #2?
>*My DREAM THEATER/JOHN COLTRANE web site*
This I gotta see...
>(Oh, and check the cover of ACoS to see the aforementioned photograph.)
If there's a sucker born every minute, then I'm one of 'em. I gotta stop believing some of this shit in here...
>Minor league baseball rules.
I'll be rooting for the hometown Charleston Riverdogs soon. One question though: if hot dogs were $1.50, how much was beer? Yeah, I got a one track mind.
>Subject: met parody
Oh, shit! Gay Digest has some competition for post of the year. I'm going for this one, though it is of yet untitled in parody form.
>But I digest...
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 12:52:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Deep DT Thoughts Message-ID: <199707221652.MAA03459@brickbat8.mindspring.com>
Hmmmm...
If the last DT CD was called Awake, this one should be Breakfast. Just the natural flow of things...
I wonder what Enchant did with the barbwire, after they took DT's heart to put it on their Wounded CD cover. I also wonder how they put the fire out.
If the members of DT were Phil Rudd or Vinnie Appice (drums), Jimmy Bain (bass), Marky Ramone (guitar), John Tesh (keyboards) and Scott Weiland (vocals), I bet not a single one of us jammers would be here today.
I wonder if someday we'll find out that John Myung actually owns a chain of strip joints and has an affair with Cicciolina.
Finally, if Mike has a daughter named Melody, I think KJLB should have a daughter named Rhythm, just in retribution :). If I have kids someday I should probably call them Images and Words :).
Enough wasting bandwidth... take care y'all.
~KillFuckingMary
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 13:00:05 -0400 (EDT) From: SatchFreak@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: IRC chat Message-ID: <970722125826_1512405359@emout02.mail.aol.com>
hey all, im new to this digest and ive seen a lot of talk concerning IRC. what exactly is it and how do i get access to the interviews and other info that is posted there?
thanks
bryan
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:01:01 -0700 From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: more DTDT's:) Message-ID: <199707221701.KAA23062@ichips.intel.com>
>If I were James, I would cut all of my hair off and glue it to my car. Then >I'd drive around town growling at people pretending to be a grizzly bear. >And when people asked what I was doing I would tell them I am a grizzly >bear and growl at them.
Oh man...stop it, you're killing me! My co-workers in the cubicles next to me probably think I'm nuts for the burst of laughter that came out when I read this. Luckily nobody asked me what's wrong, cuz then I would have had to tell them that I formed a mental picture of a bald guy driving around in a car covered with hair saying, "I am a grizzly bear and I kick some serious butt...GRRRR!!"
I love you guys...
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:42:41 -0400 From: "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@compuserve.com> To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Schitzo Message-ID: <199707221442_MC2-1B5B-A8B8@compuserve.com>
>i dont know if this question ever came up or not, but does anyone have a= ny >idea of the meaning of the "casandra" part of Voices? thats been buggin = me >for quite some time.
If I remember correctly, Cassandra was a ancient greek who supposedly ha= d the power of prophecy, but she pissed off the gods so they made it such that no one would believe her prophecy, even though they always came true= =2E =
Chris Pignatelli CLOCKWORK
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:31:42 -0400 From: Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Can we have some more DDTT??? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970722193142.00692440@pop.mindspring.com>
what was Judas doing on the cieling? and how did he get up there? did he have suction cups on his hands and feet, or did he have those ninja claws? and what about Easter never comming? is JP trying to diss Marillion? or is that the devils fault? oh yea, and what about the angel in the pool? did JP try to drown her? or was she just takein a midnight swim? if so, was she skinny dipping? if so, are there any pics?
about the "inside, commin outside, inside, commin outside" part of 6:00, is that about MP's pet parrot Memory comeing home, then deciding it was a bad idea and leaving again?
why is it everytime i listen to Surrounded, i get a vision or Atraou (however you spell that) rideing on a luck dragon, maybe its got something to do with the Ivory Tower, or maybe ive just seen that movie too many times, or hell maybe im just crazy, derranged.
hmm "30 years say were in this together"... is JP talking about his parents or his he like 50 years old? if he's not 50, i am supposing, what about the line, "cant let them rape me again", maybe thats about his uncle? or maybe hes just like the dude in korn. "your venom's not family here", maybe his uncle had a pet cobra, that wasnt excepted into the family? "i show you my hands, you dont see the scars" wow, talk about full of himself. does he really think he's jesus?
"yes, its 180 degrees but its a dry heat" is he crazy? does it really get 180 degrees in houston? i remember living in arizona, and newmexico for a long time, and the most i ever remember it getting was 122. and about jumping in a swimming pool, this guy who said that is obviously not from an area that gets dry heat. you try jumping in a swimming pool when its 100 degrees, and a dry heat, the pool water will be about 99 degrees, i had a pool when i lived in arizona, and almost never used it cause the water always got too hot. who knows, maybe someday thanks to global warming, that statement could be true. maybe aliens will come down from another planet and live in mexico and help increase global warming so they can take over our planet. maybe they're already here?
i always wondered something about the DT video in tokyo (the legal one). when kev was in the shop making fun of the word "engerish" i wonder if that would offend JM? its kinda making fun of asians and their way of speaking engrish. i dont know, i maybe be right, i may be crazy. or i just may be the lunatic your looking for? who knows?
b.t.w. i just got a scanner the other day, 30 bit color, thats awesome, for you non-computer nerds, thats over a billion colors. my puter only supports 16-bit color though =(. not that 32,768 colors arent enough. but anyway, if you guys want any DT stuff scanned for your pages or anything like that, just email me, im not gonna charge you for something that will take me a second to do, now if you werent DT fans, then i'd have to charge you.
Rocky Dean iban@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~iban
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