YTSEJAM Digest 2785
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Drumkit Size
by GnRBrks@aol.com
2) Fish in Boston
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
3) tribute albums
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
4) Re: Ageism rears its ugly, uh, head?
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
5) Still more GBS
by gra@provida.no
6) MIME crap
by "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com>
7) Re: instructional video?
by "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com>
8) DRUMS: I need Coordination exercises!!
by Matej Setinc <katarina.setinc@kiss.uni-lj.si>
9) JLB
by "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com>
10) Fatalisic Remedies Remix :)
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
11) BIRTHDAY YTSE-favor request to all (NDTC)
by "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl>
12) GALACTIC COWBOYS listserv now up!!!
by Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com>
13) Jealousy and band members
by Beth Elzinga <liz@freenet.macatawa.org>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2782 (Savatage)
by Symbolic@worldaccess.nl (Ewald Janssen)
15)
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu>
16) Grumpy Old Men
by "Korg's Mail" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
17) Re: Still more GBS
by "Korg's Mail" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
18) Re: Howard Stern
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:50:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: GnRBrks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Drumkit Size
Message-ID: <970723085040_-2043444458@emout07.mail.aol.com>
Hello all,
Drumkit size is,after all, the choice of the player.The bigger is
better is not always right for a particular genre of music.Not that I'm
against it or anything. Don't get me wrong,I love a big kit. But here's
something I tried when I had a big kit just to see how creative I could get.
Take your kit apart and set up just a bass drum and your snare. Play through
some tunes and see how creative you can be with just the snare and bass. Then
start adding the hi-hat and so on until you have the whole kit set back up.
You should be ready to explode by the time you get that last cymbal on the
last stand. Think of it as "Creative Therapy." Look at it another way,If you
are ever thrown into a situation where you have to play on someone else's
smaller kit,you have to be able to be creative no matter what the situation.
This all IMHO.
Any comments please e-mail me privately.
Glen <GnRBrks@aol.com>
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:59:01 -0400
From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fish in Boston
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970723125901Z-18429@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
Are there any jammers going to the Fish show in beantown next Monday ??
Does anyone know the setlist that he is playing on this tour ??
Does anyone know why I get =20 after some of the lines in my posts ??
Later,
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:26:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: tribute albums
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970723092450.22459B-100000@bdmserver>
Of all the magna carta tribute cds I thought Working Man was the best.
In second is the Yes and Genesis which I think are great.
Third would be the Tull tribute which is good.
and last the most boring of the bunch being the Floyd tribute.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:02:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Ageism rears its ugly, uh, head?
Message-ID: <199707231402.KAA00792@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
>
> So, Al, what kind of tastes are us "40-some-odd year-old men" supposed to
> have anyway? 'Cuz I think I'm way off . . . Currently in my RX-7's 10-disc
>
heheh......not for nothing, but you're probably in the vast
minority among the age-impaired :P
I'm going by experience with the old folk around me :P It
seems that with age, many people's taste in music seem to
deteriorate proportional to their hairlines (maybe I should
write a thesis on that).....
Anyway, your taste in music is very commendable, and I hope
that my taste in music is just as good as yours as I get
"more experienced in time"......and I hope that people can use
you as an example -- that way, this ageism thing can rest
finally...........
-Al
-- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:23:04 +0100 From: gra@provida.no To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Still more GBS Message-ID: <412564DD.0052BA2F.00@oslo1.provida.no>
I ran into the little I&W girl the other day, she's 18 !!! (Guess they mustta used an old pic, heine ???)
(Yeah, and pigs can fly !!)
BTW, my local TV station is only airing OLD episodes of Friends !!!
DTC:
Someone crawled out of lurk mode a few Jams ago, saying somthing like:
"I read an article in an Ibanez catalog, about JP showing how he's schredding the Erotmania Quintuplets"
You forgot to say HOW he did it. Isn't it done the same way as in the Awake Guitar Tab. book ?? Is there a simpler way ???
- .profile
[Kelly family rocks Hansons asses wide open. (No offence to gay people)]
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:55:17 -0400 From: "Larry" <hawkeye7@ix.netcom.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: MIME crap Message-ID: <199707231456.JAA04073@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
Sorry about the MIME crap in my last post - anybody know how that happens? Guess you could blame it on my advanced age. Then again, how old are YOU, Mojoman?
> ******************************** > J U S T S A Y M O J O!!!! > mojoman@emeraldlink.com > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC9702.3424FFA0 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > eJ8+IjoEAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy
> b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAdAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL
> <snipped>
YtseFart the Elder
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:12 -0700 (MST) From: "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: instructional video? Message-ID: <19970723151252.AAA7650@localHost>
Pedro asked:
>Can anyone give me an opinion abou the JP instructional video?
I think it's great. Alot of good ideas. There's also alot of good exercises on there. He also starts off with a subject thats very important but no one else covers, Stretching. Trust me, if you play guitar and you don't stretch some day you will be sorry. If you are a JP fan or just looking for some good exercises and stretches get the vid.
Ytse on dude,
eD
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 17:14:40 +0200 From: Matej Setinc <katarina.setinc@kiss.uni-lj.si> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DRUMS: I need Coordination exercises!! Message-ID: <33D61FDF.16F1@kiss.uni-lj.si>
Hello all! Uhm... Can anyone send me or tell me some exercises for coordination! PLEASE!
take care, -- MATEJ ---------------------------------------------------- PROGRESSIVE MUSIC PLANET & 12D AND GOD'S DEVASTATION
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1052
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 08:23 -0700 (MST) From: "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JLB Message-ID: <19970723152308.AAA14373@localHost>
Vince wrote:
>Is James Labrie really buffed or is he just fat in all the right places?
I read somewhere recently that James actually weighs 250 lbs. and they just make him look that thin by using "mirrors". How else could he have the lungs to sing all that stuff. By the way thats what the song the Mirror is really about.
Ytse on dudes,
eD
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:37:49 -0500 From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert) To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fatalisic Remedies Remix :) Message-ID: <19970723153256533.AAA268@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Vince wrote:
> WOW! I thought the line was: > > "Won't let them feel me with their elastic rubbernads." I always felt it was: "Won't let them fill me with all the rest of the lemonade." Anyone else agree?
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:14:23 -0400 (CST) From: "Miguel Farah F." <miguel@webhost.cl> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: BIRTHDAY YTSE-favor request to all (NDTC) Message-ID: <199707231614.MAA23259@antonia.webhost.cl>
Hi.
Tomorrow july/24, a good friend of mine is having his 28th birthday, and I want to play a small joke on him: I want you to mail him tomorrow a small note congratulating him for his birthday and all that. Please make no mention this is at my instigation: the massive congratulations must catch him off guard.
His name is: Sebastian Armas His address is: sarmas@ing.puc.cl
THANK YOU.
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:32:37 +0000 From: Dan Temmesfeld <dantemm@erinet.com> Subject: GALACTIC COWBOYS listserv now up!!! Message-ID: <33D5F9E5.689F@erinet.com>
[just a quick note to let people know...]
Well along with the Galactic Cowboys mailing list (kirsten@pa.uky.edu), there is also now a GC listserv running.
To subscribe, send mail to: listserv@dfinney.uhsa.uh.edu (mailto:listserv@dfinney.uhsa.uh.edu) with the following comand in the body (not subject) of the message:
SUBscribe GC
The address for posting is: GC@dfinney.uhsa.uh.edu (mailto:GC@dfinney.uhsa.uh.edu)
It's just starting out, but it should be cool, with more interaction than the digest form of the current SIYF mailing.
Later, Dan
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:50:46 -0500 From: Beth Elzinga <liz@freenet.macatawa.org> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Jealousy and band members Message-ID: <01BC9767.0B1FF280@pm2-23.macatawa.org>
Yo, it's me again.
Damn, all this guitar crap is making me EXTREMELY jealous. Anyone who = has any advice for playing guitar when your fingers on your left hand = seem to be at least an inch too short? (and don't think about it that = way!!! :) )
Rick wrote:
[ Al wrote, [ [ > And Robin would probably comment on Mr. LaBrie's cute ass.... [ [ Nope, nope. Robin would definitely comment on how good-looking [ Petrucci is. Definitely. Yes, he's by far the best looking guy [ in the band, ass and all. ;)
Well, actually, if it came to a choice between the two, well, uh..... = Maybe I shouldn't comment on that :)
At the crossroad's edge....
Beth Elzinga
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 17:03:29 GMT From: Symbolic@worldaccess.nl (Ewald Janssen) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2782 (Savatage) Message-ID: <199707231703.RAA21111@tiga.worldaccess.nl>
>Read in a newsgroup that Jon Oliva sings most of the songs on the new cd. >Is this true?
No, Jon will sing two (Paragons Of Innocence / ?) from the eleven songs that will be on this album. That's leaving nine tracks for Zak. On two songs they will use the Sava counterparts (The Wake Of Magellan / The Hour Glass).
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 13:09:21 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970723125345.10823H-100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> > Subject: Scarred interpretation, tape swap > > I think that the "30 years" part refers to the speaker and the > significant other he/she is talking to. I have always thought that the > speaker was saying that he was "betting," for lack of a better word, > that the two of them would be together for a long time, hence the "30 > years" line, and "so open your eyes" is a plea for the other person to > realize that. The whole song seems to go along with this idea, to me. As
That makes sense to me, but I have a different interpretation.
I think that the persona of the song (the person singing, if you will) is John's father, who was presumably married for thirty years or so. Lines like "I never bared my emotions" set the song up for me as John Sr. facing his illness as a classic "tough guy" who would rather stay hurt than ask someone else for help. "Won't let them fill me with fatalistic remedies." Maybe he was scared of doctors or hospitals. I never knew my Italian grandfather, but I can speak for my father and myself - we hate hospitals. :)
Then, towards the end, "Do you feel you don't know me anymore," etc. Maybe John's parents were having some trouble during this time (which wouldn't be extremely surprising), so the "Thirty years say we're in this together, so open your eyes" is him calling out to her for help, finally.
"Learning from misery, staring back at dissent, Leaving distrust behind, I'm inspired and content." He allowed himself to get scarred by the act of closing himself in. Now he allows himself to trust other people (maybe his wife, maybe his 30-year-old son, now that I think about it) and is more able to face life.
That's my guess.
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> From: DrummerEsh@aol.com > Subject: RE: My interpretation of drum kit size > > My theory is The bigger The Better!! I have a large set and i find that i am > far more versetile on a biger set then a smaller becuase of the amount of > options and sounds i can get.
I heard from someone who saw a Portnoy clinic this past year that he was discussing the recent trend of people scaling down their sets, the notion that less is more. He said something like, "Well, the way I see it, more is more!" And I agree. One of the first things that really, really drew me in to DT was the percussion in LSoaD (Yes, I was late. Sue me). I think the more stuff Mike has, the better he's going to play. I also think that most drummers in the world aren't good enough for that. Mike and Neil Peart have *huge* drum kits, but they use everything there. Alex Van Halen has a *huge* drum kit, too, and he's a great drummer, but 5 more cymbals and 4 more toms aren't going to add anything to VH's music.
I can just imagine what John Bonham would say if he could see Mike's drum kit. "You've got to be fuckin' loonie" comes to mind. :) Then again, the smaller kit worked for him, and the bigger kit works for Mike.
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> From: "Chairface" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET> > Subject: Myung's Stick > > Maybe JM got the Chapman Stick because he was jealous of JP having > more strings on his guitar :).
(ahem) It is a status symbol to have less strings than a guitarist. :)
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:32:01 -0600 From: "Korg's Mail" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Grumpy Old Men Message-ID: <199707231831.LAA16755@odin.ax.com>
>a dollar a day, well, um, THOSE WERE THE DAYS, that's for sure, mister, >and you can take THAT to the bank!
In my day we didn't have these pretty little rock and roll bands running around with their long hair looking like a bunch of little girls... The only music we got was grunting on the toilet trying to push out last night's cornbread!
In my day we didn't have these fancy microwave ovens, or these wonder machines to cook food in minutes. In my day, you either had to cut your steak off of a live animal or go pull it out of the frozen river and breathe on it until it was warm enough to chew!
In my day we didn't have these fancy computer games with all the flashing lights and pictures and sounds. We had to make up our own games like, "Chew the bark off the tree!" And the first kid to cry about his bleeding gums lost!
Smacking his gums... KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:42:35 -0600 From: "Korg's Mail" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Still more GBS Message-ID: <199707231840.LAA16786@odin.ax.com>
>I ran into the little I&W girl the other day, she's 18 !!! (Guess they >mustta used an old pic, heine ???)
It makes sense. She looks like she coud've been about 13 in the Another Day vid back in '92. Add 5 years. Maybe she's just short for her size. Anyway as Bafu would say, "Prime Meat!" :P
>Damn, all this guitar crap is making me EXTREMELY jealous. Anyone who >has any advice for playing guitar when your fingers on your left hand >seem to be at least an inch too short? (and don't think about it that >way!!! :) )
I have problems with this. My pinkies are considerably shorter than the rest of my fingers, so I really have trouble soloing with it. The only way I've gotten over it is to practice coming up with other ways to use it. I find if used correctly, it helps counterbalance my left hand really well while playing. It sounds rather stupid, but my pinkies are incredibly short.
> Slot 3. House Of Lords - Sahara.
I would give my firstborn child to know where I could find this. I've got Demons Down and I've never found any of their others. (They have 3, don't they?) They rule!
Currently playing: Type O Negative: October Rust KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:10:46 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Howard Stern Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970723150503.17067C-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
Guess who asked Mike that question :) I think Howard is a total genius with what he does, and even if he WOULD bash DT after they were invited to the show...can you imagine how much exposure that would create for them??? Who cares what he'd say after the show...it'd be a chance for millions of listeners to hear MORE DT along with the personalities of DT...plus the fact that MP IS a big Stern fan would help them greatly for the interview...Howard eats that shit BIG TIME when the person who is a guest is a big fan of his...it'd be GREAT for DT! Oh yeah Baba Booey's to you all!
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