YTSEJAM digest 2797

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Sat Jul 26 1997 - 20:10:46 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 2797

    Today's Topics:

      1) Wuz up?
     by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
      2) I'm bored as hell
     by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
      3) Juss wundring
     by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
      4) Where I live
     by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
      5) Styx and Yes questions and Re: Death to all!
     by DragynLMC3@aol.com
      6) Just wanted to clear things up...
     by george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
      7) ACOS
     by zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
      8) some humor
     by "George Sumschidt" <gsrockr@stratos.net>
      9) Walkman Amp
     by zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
     10) Re: ACOS
     by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
     11) The final camel that broke the straw's back
     by eckie@asu.edu
     12) Re: Ryche and "hair band" line
     by rickbond <rickbond@concentric.net>
     13) (no subject)
     by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
     14) DTDT, Music@Work, DIE!!!, Complex, Protocol, asdf
     by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
     15) Regarding the Who and Iced Earth
     by MTeiper@aol.com
     16) MALMSTEEN AGAIN
     by Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt>
     17) PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME WITH YOUR WISDOM
     by Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt>
     18) Mankind has got to know it's limitations
     by King Of The Internet <skooc@earthlink.net>

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:30:05 EDT
    From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Wuz up?
    Message-ID: <19970619.064802.6943.5.george.farber@juno.com>

    Wuz up?

    Alternacrap sux!
    prog sux!
    metal sux!
    cRAP sux!
    Dream Theatre rules!

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:33:09 EDT
    From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: I'm bored as hell
    Message-ID: <19970619.065152.6943.6.george.farber@juno.com>

    Juss thought yood lick too no...

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:37:18 EDT
    From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Juss wundring
    Message-ID: <19970619.065550.6943.8.george.farber@juno.com>

    I was just wondering why

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:53:56 EDT
    From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Where I live
    Message-ID: <19970619.071240.6719.0.george.farber@juno.com>

    There has been a lot of discussion on the 'JAM as of late concerning the
    whereabouts of I. Just let it be known that I live in Plainfield
    Connecticut.

    Any questions?

    didn't think so!

    signed
    P.U.S.S.Y.

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:53:57 -0400 (EDT)
    From: DragynLMC3@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Styx and Yes questions and Re: Death to all!
    Message-ID: <970726135356_2093118486@emout05.mail.aol.com>

    In a message dated 97-07-26 13:42:10 EDT, george the insane wrote:

    > In YTSEJAM digest 2782, Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Chad Martin
    > <Chad.E.Martin-1@tc.umn.edu> wrote:
    >
    > >Hey, anybody noticed that the 'jam rate has slacked off? I guess we
    > >need
    > >more FUCK YOU's and DIE's to keep it up (not that I'm asking for it.)
    > >:)
    >
    > perhaps you were?

    had to open ya mouth, didnt ya Chad? ;}

    anyway, what im really writing about is that i picked up a couple of Yes
    records (yes i mean vinyl) at a street fair... Tormato, Going For The One,
    and a live one... and by accident i got a Styx record i was wondering if
    anyone could tell me how many albums Yes has... and if anyone has heard of
    Styx? ive only heard the one album Pieces Of Eight... any info will be
    greatly appreciated....

    ~Lisa

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:57:11 EDT
    From: george.farber@juno.com (George Farber)
    To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
    Subject: Just wanted to clear things up...
    Message-ID: <19970619.071515.6719.1.george.farber@juno.com>

    I'm a dork!
    I suck!
    I'm a looser!
    I like Alternacrap, not this pussy shit!
    I'm a looser.
    I suck!
    I'm a dork!

    signed,

    P.U.S.S.Y.

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 14:07:35 EDT
    From: zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: ACOS
    Message-ID: <19970619.072610.6519.1.zarnoff069@juno.com>

            The other day, I was walking somewhere because I didn't feel like
    driving. I brought a tape of ACOS (I usually don't walk with my discman
    because I got it a few years ago and it skip when I walk) and put it into
    my walkman and left. Well, I hadn't used my walkman in a while and the
    batteries were low, so the tape was kinda running slow.
            
            It was cool though beacuse even though it didn't sound completely
    right, it lasted over 30 MINUTES! That had to have been the coolest 30
    minuted of my life (other than obvious exceptions). Well, I just wanted
    to share that with you all...it was cool!

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 14:12:18 -0400
    From: "George Sumschidt" <gsrockr@stratos.net>
    To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: some humor
    Message-ID: <001f11715181a77SMTP@smtp.stratos.net>

            /lurk mode off

            Hey group!!! This came from the VervePipe Mailing
            list. In light of the general good mood on the jam,
            I thought I'd add to it. E-mail me privately if you don't
            care for it. gsrockr@stratos.net

            Till next time, G.

            /lurk mode on
            ************************************************
            I'm a drummer. I play the radio real good.

    Q: How many internet mail list subscribers does it take
         to change a light bulb?

    A: 1,331:

      1 to successfully change the light bulb and to post to
         the mail list that the light bulb has been changed
     14 to share similar experiences of changing light
        bulbs and how the light bulb could have been
        changed differently.
      7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
     27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about
        changing light bulbs.
     53 to flame the spell checkers
    156 to write to the list administrator complaining about
        the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness
        to this mail list.
     41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
    109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and
        to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
    203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar,
        alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing
        light bulbs be stopped.
    111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we
        all use light bulbs and therefore the posts
        **are** relevant to this mail list.
    306 to debate which method of changing light
        bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs,
        what brand of light bulbs work best for this
        technique, and what brands are faulty.
     27 to post URLs where one can see examples of
        different light bulbs
     14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and
        to post corrected URLs.
      3 to post about links they found from the URLs that
        are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs
        relevant to this list.
     33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote
        them including all headers and footers, and then
        add "Me Too."
     12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing
        because they cannot handle the light bulb
        controversey.
     19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
      4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.
      1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
     47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion
        was meant for, leave it here.
    143 votes for a new list alt.lite.bulb.

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 14:27:20 EDT
    From: zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Walkman Amp
    Message-ID: <19970619.074515.6519.7.zarnoff069@juno.com>

    I found these instructions one day....I gound this pretty cool, If you
    want a practice amp really cheap...

    The cheapest possible guitar amp is to feed the output of your guitar
    into the input of a simple Walkman-type cassette player. Simply take the
    Walkman apart, locate the leads going from the cassette head to the
    circuit board, and attach the output from the electric guitar to the
    casette head leads. See diagram:

      Roller Head Guide Head
    +--------------------------------+ +--------------------------------+
    | \_/ |__| || | | |__| |
    | | | /|\ |
    | | | / | \ 3 wires coming|
    | O O | | / | \ off head |
    | | | left gnd right |
    | | | |
    | | | Connect to electric |
    | | | guitar output |
    +--------------------------------+ +--------------------------------+

    Front view of walkman Back (circuit board side) view

    There will be 3 wires coming off of the tape head connecting somewhere
    on the circuit board. The 3 wires are, of course, left channel, right
    channel, and ground. Simple poking around with a pair of headphones on
    will tell you which line is which. Just tie the ground from your
    guitar output to the ground, and the signal to both left and right
    channel inputs.

    Then, just press PLAY with no tape in the unit, and whatever output
    from the guitar will go through the cassette head leads and get
    amplified to the headphones. Simple and real cheap; you might need an
    attenuating resistor to limit the strength of the signal coming into
    the Walkman, but I doubt it with the low levels that an electric guitar
    will put out.

    Plus, if you pop in a cassette and press play, you will be able to hear
    BOTH your electric guitar AND the cassette through your headphones.
    Jam along with your favorite tape!

    This technique can be used whenever you want an amp out of a cheap
    Walkman.

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 15:36:42 -0300 (EST)
    From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
    To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Re: ACOS
    Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970726153326.19250A-100000@turing.ime.usp.br>

    On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Mike Potvin wrote:

    > It was cool though beacuse even though it didn't sound completely
    > right, it lasted over 30 MINUTES! That had to have been the coolest 30
    > minuted of my life (other than obvious exceptions). Well, I just wanted
    > to share that with you all...it was cool!

            Well, I had the same effect (not 30 minutes, but about 15 or 20)
    with Learning to Live. :-) It was really interesting how James was with
    "balls & chunk". :-)

            BTW, you say about the obvious exceptions and I just remembered
    a fact that occured about one year ago when on the Metallica Newsgroup.
    There were some people telling which were some good Metallica albums to
    start with and one of them said: "Kill'em All is as good as sex and sex is
    good". :-)

            []s, Roger...

    --
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito
      Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!"
       Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html
     "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters"
               James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters
    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 13:18:37 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The final camel that broke the straw's back Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970726131412.3620C-100000@general4.asu.edu>

    That's it....George Farter's a dead man. I'm gettin' my posse together, gittin' my guitar strings and drum sticks, and the Spice Girls, and we're gonna FLATTEN SOMEBODY'S ASS!

    So you gotta ask yourself, George..."Do I feel lucky today?" Well? Do you? Do you feel lucky, PUNK?!

    ~Eckie gets his Italian friend Vinnie 'n heads out to CT

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:32:10 -0400 From: rickbond <rickbond@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ryche and "hair band" line Message-ID: <33DA5ECA.1F419E6A@concentric.net>

    First off...I'm pretty psyched. I just got off the phone ordering my Queensryche tickets for Great Woods on August 2nd. NEXT WEEKEND!! I'm so psyched. Saw them therer on the Promised Land tour. AHHH!!!! I'm excited.

    > > How's that saying go? You don't really appreciate some things until > > they're gone? > > wasn't that a whitesnake song? it was a hair band anyway... maybe > slaughter or cinderella... i bet bafu would know. he's probably a > closet dokken fan... > As for this....I'm a Cinderella fan, and it's a song off of their "Long Cold Winter" album. "Don't know what you've got til it's gone". Thought I'd share.

    Take Care

    Rick Bond

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 17:31:31 -0400 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <33DA6CB3.251D@ici.net>

    Skadz said:

    > Wow, I'm impressed. I just read a whole jam and didn't read > anything stupid. Is that really possible? :) Well, guys (and girls) > keep up the good work. Its nice to be able to read a jam and actually > enjoy it :)

    ..and I started to get the "warm fuzzies". Then, naturally, in the very next post:

    > perhaps you were? > > FUCK YOU!!!

    <sigh>

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 23:08:05 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytchi Jam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DTDT, Music@Work, DIE!!!, Complex, Protocol, asdf Message-ID: <01BC9A1B.5439CD40@Barclay.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>

    Carlos Alfaro asked :

    > Has someone actually collected any of these dtdt's and put them > up on a webpage?! or a txt file?

    I didn't collect them, but I'd *love* to put them all on my site along with the parodies ! Please mail all DTDT's to me privately at bredius@globalxs.nl preferably with the subject "DTDT" ! :-) _____

    >> I'm one of those lucky people who can listen to music at work > > Me too! 'Twas all-Marillion day today; played all 8 studio albums > (skipped HiE--day's not that long).

    Great selection of albums too ;-) I'm one of those lucky bastards too, btw. For me it's been Awake, IAW and ACOS all day long on both Thursday and Friday. Tuesday, it was King Crimson's Thrak, Signify by Porcupine Tree, The Wishing Tree's Carnival of Souls, Sunsets On Empire by Fish and H's Ice Cream Genius. Quite a diverse selection, eh ? :-) I *always* drag all my Tori Amos albums to work too :-) I love having my own huge office and huge ergonomic keyboard (great for 'drumming' on).

    > How can you tell a Christian computer programmer? > > If you tell him to "go to hell," he tells you never to say "go to!"

    Heheh ! I'm a programmer... loved the joke, hate the "goto" command.

    Here's a nice George Farber subroutine :

    SUB GeorgeFarber DO PRINT "DIE!!!!!" LOOP UNTIL SkadzKicksHisAss = TRUE END SUB

    And how to get rid of him :

    SUB Skadz KILL GeorgeFarber END SUB

    Let's all CALL Skadz :-)

    Actually, I've sent an official complaint about our dear George, to postmaster@juno.com but they need the insulting posts with complete headers in order to get off their asses. I'm in *digest* mode, so I only get those five lines (date, from, to, subject, message-id).

    So if you're in bounce mode and are sick of this "DIE!!!" crap, you know what to do :-) Or just mail me one (or a few) complete headers of Farber's posts and I'll mail them to Juno myself. I mean, digest 2793 only had 7 messages. 66 % of it was just more of Farber's shit eventhough he's not even on the Ytsejam anymore (as far as I know).

    I'm getting *this* close to mailbombing this bastard's ass off with a few megabytes of "DIE!!!" and "FUCK YOU!!!" crap. _____

    Ernesto Schnack wrote :

    > There's also the fact that most people don't need or want music to > be challenging or complex. All they want is a nice beat to move > their booty to.

    You know, I can't even listen to music without any musical changes and just one beat/chorus. That *totally* gets on my nerves ! Those songs all sound the same. I hate it when you ask someone what kind of music they like, and they reply with "pop music"... And I think most of them don't even know what they're missing. They're so used to listening to what eMpTyV and radio stations play that they just don't know there's stuff out there that can *actually* move/excite you. I'm not just talking about metal and prog, because that's not for everyone either. Anyway, I think we are pretty damn *lucky* to love a band like Dream Theater :-) _____

    David Cuthbert wrote :

    > PS. This is my first JAM and if I haven't followed correct protocol > feel free to tell me.

    You didn't flame or insult anyone (that's in the protocol, right?).

    Just kidding, welcome to the list ;-) _____

    > please subscribe Eric DeSobe

    Already mailed him the right address for subbing... Maybe the 'Jam should *automatically* reply with the subscription info if someone uses the subject "asdf" and not put the message on the digest :-)

    Mark ____________________________________________________bredius@globalxs.nl__ No matter what I say or do, it never looks _ _____ ___ _ _ __ __ like making any difference. Don't focus all |:||_.:._|/:._]|:]_[:|\.\_/./ your anger and resentment that you have. |:| |:| (.:(_ |:___:| \_::/ Don't blame it on me. Don't blame it on me. |_| [_] \___]|_] [_| [__/ _________________________________________________________________________ Itchy's Homepage - http://www.prognosis.com/itchy/

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 18:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Regarding the Who and Iced Earth Message-ID: <970726180217_-758392664@emout18.mail.aol.com>

    Greetingz -

    Sitting at home watching my video boot of the Who playing Quadrophenia in Albany, NY, I felt inspired to post to the Jam. I know there has been some stuff said about the Who as of late. I was wondering if there was anyone out there that knows if the Who is planning, or has released, a CD and/or video from this tour? The live version just BLOWS AWAY the studio version... much like the band did with Tommy a few years ago. I have the video and 2 CD-Set the Who released from their Tommy tour; I am hoping they will do the same with the Quadrophenia tour. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    Onto other news, I was looking for some information regarding the new Iced Earth album, I think it's called "Days Of Purgatory", or something like that. At one point I was led to believe that it would be all new material. Then I heard how it would be material taken directly from their first few CD's. Then I heard how it would be a CD full of old stuff, rerecorded with the new singer. Which is true? I love "The Dark Saga", but can't really get into their older stuff, probably because I am partial to their latest singer. If the new singer sings older stuff, I may have to pick it up. Again, any info would help greatly.

    Feel free to e-mail privately, or to the Jam if you think it's relevant. Thanx a lot!!

    Under 2 months 'til new Dream Theater!!! Woo Hoo!!!!

    - Matt

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 23:17:11 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MALMSTEEN AGAIN Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970726211711.0066eb40@mail.telepac.pt>

    Someone said something like this: >Yngwie can only play harmonic minor scales, but at speed of light. >So can I. And i'm not the best guitarist in the world.

    OK. You are right about this, I admit it. But you also have to agree that Yngwie was one of the pioneers of neoclassical metal, inspiring millions of guitar players all over=20 the world (Michael Angelo,MacAlpine,...). In the 80's, while everybody else was playing VHalen tapping shit, Yngwie radically changed the guitar scene with very fresh techniques,ideas and ways to approach the instrument. =20 But, hey, no one's is perfect: his music hasn't changed since!

    =20

    We are: FleXable (Francisco Miguel) & Apicultor (Pedro Filipe)

    "Practice, practice, practice" - Michael Angelo "Hello me, it's me again..." - Dave Mustaine "Give me a p=E1lhete, please!" - A dumbass at Imperial

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 23:17:22 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME WITH YOUR WISDOM Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970726211722.00665720@mail.telepac.pt>

    PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME WITH YOUR WISDOM:

    1- 4/4 can be seen as two measures in 2/4. So if a song is in 4/4=20 who tells me it can't be also 2/4?

    2- What is the difference between a song in 4/4 (100bpm) and a song in 4/8 (100bpm)? Isn't it the same thing? =20

    3- Wouldn't be cool if we had...like 6 fingers in each hand? According=20 to my science book, this genetical mutation is common in Eastern Russia.= =20 Now you already know: don't mess with russian guitar players. :)

    We are: FleXable (Francisco Miguel) & Apicultor (Pedro Filipe)

    "Practice, practice, practice" - Michael Angelo "Hello me, it's me again..." - Dave Mustaine "Give me a p=E1lhete, please!" - A dumbass at Imperial

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    Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: King Of The Internet <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mankind has got to know it's limitations Message-ID: <199707262353.QAA03768@sweden.it.earthlink.net>

    Hey,

    Well, I'm off to the Warfield for the MegaFuckingDeth show and I'll be wearing my Ytsejam shirt (the Jason Giles one) so stop by and say hi. If you get in the area early enough I'm going to be at Carl's Jr over by Post & Market (about 2 blocks from the venue) so stop by or feel my pain! ;-)

    Scott

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