YTSEJAM Digest 2808
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Fates/'Deth
by "Chairface" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
2) New stuff I got
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
3) New stuff I got
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
4) new stuff I got
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
5) Saviour Machine: Legend Part I
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
6) Zappa
by "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
7) Junk...
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
8) Another Day in Malaysia
by John Murphey <murphey@pop.a001.sprintmail.com>
9) Football and stuff
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
10) Queensryche!?
by image@bbs.cpcn.com (YtsE JaMMeR)
11) Re: Queensryche Set List & Darien Lake Show
by "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net>
12) Re: Another Day in Malaysia
by eckie@asu.edu
13) Dream Theater CDs 4 Sale
by "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net>
14) Thanks to all (fwd)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) ear in the now frontier at the beach......
by Thrak75@aol.com
16) LAST REMINDER!!!
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
17) It Bites.
by djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com
18) Re: Saviour Machine: Legend Part I
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
19) RE: Another Day in Malaysia
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:38:12 +0000
From: "Chairface" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fates/'Deth
Message-ID: <199707310148.UAA29215@Walden.MO.NET>
> FATES FANS! Who will be at the Mabel's (Traditionally a 19+ bar, but I don't know
> how heavily they'll be carding kids for this show, since it's summer. It's in a college
> town, so they're pretty lenient) show on Aug. 12th? Who will be at the House of Blues show
> (18+) on the 17th? Let me know personally! St. Louis jammers! C'mon! You MUST be there!
> Any out of towners for the 12th, let me know. I can hook you up with a place to stay
> probably.
Ah, cool. I forgot the date for this show and was wondering. I'm
gonna try my damndest to make this, and, right now, it's a strong
possibility. Anyone know any directions? (e-mail me privately for
this if you know).
Also, anybody going to the Megadeth show at The American Theatre
(that's how they spell it :) in St. Louis next Monday (Aug. 4)? I'll
definitely be there, possibly with some people, possibly by myself.
I'll also probably be wearing my huge ass jam shirt, so you should be
able to catch me.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:26:37 -0300
From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New stuff I got
Message-ID: <19970731023131.AAA40216@alexis1>
Hey jammers! I got quite a few CDs during my week of vacation, and I would
like to comment on some of them:
King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska
Well, after all the talk about KX in the jam, I had to get one of their
CDs and check out what these guys sound like. Well, I got the one that
almost all agreed was their best piece of work. After only a few listens,
I kinda like them, but I'm not that impressed. I mean, it's good music,
but it hasn't grabbed my attention yet.
Savatage - Edge of Thorns
This is my third Savatage CD, and I must say it's quite good. I think
Criss Oliva totally kicks ass in this CD. Most of the songs are quite
good. I think it sounds like a mix between DWD and Streets.
Galactic Cowboys - The Horse That Bud Bought
This CD is quite good. It has the Machine Fish sound to most songs, mixed
with some old sounding GC parts here and there. I really like the songs
Evil Twin, Media Slant and Trip on Love. Is it just me or does Monty take
over the lead vocals role more on this CD than on any of the others?
Bruce Dickinson - Accident of Birth
This CD kicks ass. There's been plenty said about it, so please refer to
all of the other person's previous posts. It's like Maiden reborn.
That's it. Bye!!!
Alexis
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:26:37 -0300
From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New stuff I got
Message-ID: <19970731023301.AAA70396@alexis1>
Hey jammers! I got quite a few CDs during my week of vacation, and I would
like to comment on some of them:
King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska
Well, after all the talk about KX in the jam, I had to get one of their
CDs and check out what these guys sound like. Well, I got the one that
almost all agreed was their best piece of work. After only a few listens,
I kinda like them, but I'm not that impressed. I mean, it's good music,
but it hasn't grabbed my attention yet.
Savatage - Edge of Thorns
This is my third Savatage CD, and I must say it's quite good. I think
Criss Oliva totally kicks ass in this CD. Most of the songs are quite
good. I think it sounds like a mix between DWD and Streets.
Galactic Cowboys - The Horse That Bud Bought
This CD is quite good. It has the Machine Fish sound to most songs, mixed
with some old sounding GC parts here and there. I really like the songs
Evil Twin, Media Slant and Trip on Love. Is it just me or does Monty take
over the lead vocals role more on this CD than on any of the others?
Bruce Dickinson - Accident of Birth
This CD kicks ass. There's been plenty said about it, so please refer to
all of the other person's previous posts. It's like Maiden reborn.
That's it. Bye!!!
Alexis
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:51:24 -0300
From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: new stuff I got
Message-ID: <19970731025215.AAA69118@alexis1>
Hey jammers! I got quite a few CDs during my week of vacation, and I would
like to comment on some of them:
King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska
Well, after all the talk about KX in the jam, I had to get one of their
CDs and check out what these guys sound like. Well, I got the one that
almost all agreed was their best piece of work. After only a few listens,
I kinda like them, but I'm not that impressed. I mean, it's good music,
but it hasn't grabbed my attention yet.
Savatage - Edge of Thorns
This is my third Savatage CD, and I must say it's quite good. I think
Criss Oliva totally kicks ass in this CD. Most of the songs are quite
good. I think it sounds like a mix between DWD and Streets.
Galactic Cowboys - The Horse That Bud Bought
This CD is quite good. It has the Machine Fish sound to most songs, mixed
with some old sounding GC parts here and there. I really like the songs
Evil Twin, Media Slant and Trip on Love. Is it just me or does Monty take
over the lead vocals role more on this CD than on any of the others?
Bruce Dickinson - Accident of Birth
This CD kicks ass. There's been plenty said about it, so please refer to
all of the other person's previous posts. It's like Maiden reborn.
That's it. Bye!!!
Alexis
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:13:56 -0400
From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Saviour Machine: Legend Part I
Message-ID: <33DFF4E4.37C2@enter.net>
WOW!
Was I shocked when I heard this. Although I had never heard them
before. The choral and orchastrated arrangements are awesome!
If you don't know about this CD, it is part 1 of 3. The entire trilogy
is about the Apocolypse.
Eric Clayton has a good voice, but doesn't show much range. Also I was
disappointed in the non-progness of each song. There was basic riff for
each song and that was it.
Also I thought it was going to be more gothic.
Yet, the CD is excellent and powerful!
later,
Bruce Duesterhoeft
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:16:06 -0400
From: "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" <bduesterhoeft@enter.net>
To: YtseGods <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Zappa
Message-ID: <33DFF566.3A7A@enter.net>
What would be a good starter CD of Zappa's stuff?
I figure if Mikey (you know, that drummer guy from that band named
Dream, ahhh Dream Theater) likes it....then it must be good enough to
eat... sorry I mean listen to.
thanks,
Bruce Duesterhoeft
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 02:03:23 -0300
From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
To: Freaks R Us <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Junk...
Message-ID: <33DC281B.3044F33D@geocities.com>
Hiya, sorry for the junt in the last message, I hope that does not
happen again...
-- []'s /**********************************************\ |* Marcelo Vanzin *| |* vanzin@geocities.com *| |* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *| \**********************************************/------------------------------
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:49:48 -0500 From: John Murphey <murphey@pop.a001.sprintmail.com> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Another Day in Malaysia Message-ID: <33DFFD4C.171@pop.a001.sprintmail.com>
A few years ago when I was overseas, I heard "Another Day" in a mall in Johor Bahru (JB), Malaysia. JB is just across the straits, north of Singapore. Let me say that Singapore has the worst radio on this planet, with way too happy DJ's spouting wonderful things about pop groups that have been off the charts in the west .... when I was there, the popular people were Meatloaf, Bryan Adams, Duran Duran, and that ugly guy that kinda looks like Fabio and overdramatizes every song he sings.
In any case, it just about floored me to hear AD at that time. It kinda gave me a feeling that I just might make it back to the Western World and (more importantly) good music
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:17:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Football and stuff Message-ID: <199707310317.XAA01836@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Welp, I just went and signed up for the FF League!! (Even before reading Pats post about me in the previous jam.)
I was thinking that it would be kinda cool to set up some sorta prize for the winner. ( I think ESPN gives a t-shirt or something but la-di-freakin-da.) We should set up something where the winner can get 1 or 2 Mike Bahr boots or something like that. If we get 10 players, everyone would put $5 into the pot. The resulting $50 would be used toward some Bahr boots (or something similiar). What do you say?
We should take up the collection ahead of time so people can't back out when they end up with a 1-15 record (like the Jets). We would need someone to be in charge of collecting the dough. Maybe Pat or myself. I wouldn't mind.
I really think this is a cool idea and it would add a little more excitement to the game.
So lets get on over to ESPN and sign up already! There should be 5 spots left.
BTW - I heard from MetalBlade that FW isn't gonna be going on until about midnight at the Jaxx show. That's past my bedtime but I GUESS I can make an exception for FW. :)Can someone tell me what kinda stuff they are selling at the shows? T_shirts? Hats? Kevin Moore's appendages? Any idea how long it will take to get there from the Baltimoron area?
NP: Jason Becker "Perspective" FSG(Favorite Spice Girl): The Redhead
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:21:39 -0400 From: image@bbs.cpcn.com (YtsE JaMMeR) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Queensryche!? Message-ID: <199707310321.XAA24230@bbs.cpcn.com>
Rychers-
I have a few questions about my favorite band next to DT. I have been listening to Hear in the Now Frontier like crazy lately. My opinion is that it is a very good album. I enjoy it. But when i listen to albums like Promised land or Rage for order I am floored by the emotion...etc Even though HITNF is a great album I can't even compare it to other QR albums because they are so good. Has anyone heard from interviews, etc...on why they went in this direction. Promised land seemed to me like the perfect beginning of a totally new sound but it seems like they walked away from it altogether. Any input? Also....Can someone tell me the plot of Operation Mindcrime. I love the album and i listen to it all the time but i always feel like i am missing part of the plot? Who singing in All I want?
Thanks guys!
-sinkdrain~
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:40:13 +0000 From: "Brian Anderson" <lrng2lve@frontiernet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Queensryche Set List & Darien Lake Show Message-ID: <199707310241.WAA41968@node1.frontiernet.net>
> Anyway, I'm still basking in the post-concert afterglow. I also think I saw > a Jammer one row ahead of me in Section 101, Row 6. Sorry, dude, I never got > a chance to say hi. I had a Home For the Holidays shirt on. I think you had > a Jammer sweatshirt on. Ah, well. Gotta run. Ryche Rulez!!! >
Hi! That was me. I looked around for people with DT shirts. But I guess I didn't look hard enough :-) I agree that the concert rocked. I was amazed with my seats, 6th row and bought the tickets about 5 days before the concert. I brought a friend who wasn't really into Queensryche or progressive music really), and after the show, he said that they were the best live band he's ever saw. I was glad he got to see what real bands sound like. Now to get him to a DT show . . . Anyway, I thought I'd mention the opener. They were a progressivish (is that a word?) rock band from around here (Rochester) called Pull. I thought they were pretty good. Kinda reminded me of Boston but a little more progressive. I was most impressed with the bassist. He was playing an 8 string lookin' thing. (I'm wondering if this was the Chapman Stick, anyone know?) and he was just tappin' away all over the neck of the thing. I wish a could have heard him a little better 'cause the vocals and drums were pretty loud. Oh well, all in all it was a good show.
-Brian Anderson
p.s. Bafu, your shirt is in the mail.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:39:17 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Another Day in Malaysia Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970730203747.27702A-100000@general5.asu.edu>
> the popular people were Meatloaf, Bryan Adams, Duran Duran, and that > ugly guy that kinda looks like Fabio and overdramatizes every song he > sings.
..Micheal Bolton?
~Eckie doubts his guess...Bolton doesn't look too much like Fabio
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:29:20 -0400 From: "Matt Wilson" <Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dream Theater CDs 4 Sale Message-ID: <19970731043125.AAA8769@matt>
Hi Ytsejammers, I have the following CDs for sale:
1.Instrumental I-The 1987 Recordings-$30.00 2.Uncovered-Live at Ronnie Scotts 1/31/95-(2 cds)-$45.00 3.Another Uncovered-Live at Phillipsdalle,Dusseldorf,Germany 2/11/95-$27.00 4.Rising Power w/Mike Portnoy circa 1984/85-$20.00
My E-mail is: Dreamline.7466@worldnet.att.net
Thank you for your time.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:47:56 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thanks to all (fwd) Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970730214751.007fa370@postoffice.syspac.com>
This is from Fernando Ma to the AZ jammerz.
>Return-Path: <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU> >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:42:55 -0700 (MST) >From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU> >To: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> >Subject: Thanks to all > >Hey Vince, pass this on... > >Thanks to everyone at the FatesWanting convention! Hooters was a real >treat (and bargain too), I just about came in my pants at the Guitar >Center (I'll write about the Myung vid after I watch it a few times), and >Critical Mass kicked mass! Talking to those guys was a trip too (even if >the guitar dude looked all sinister..) Vince's house was pretty cool too >(what was up with the van situation?) Of course, Fates rocked nads, and >we saw Derek play bass for Anvil Chorus ;P IHOP was a good resting place >(thanks uncle and vince for fries and rings). Oh, I finally got home >about 5:15 am, caught a nap, and went to work about 11am. What a day... > > > Fernando Ma > Materials science & engineering > University of Arizona > http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma > > > >
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:50:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ear in the now frontier at the beach...... Message-ID: <970731005003_-757707540@emout16.mail.aol.com>
.....and man, were they fucking amazing!!!!!!!
i want all the suckers (and i mean SUCKERS) that whined, saying shit like "ahh...geoff smokes too much. he can't sing the high parts anymore", or "ah man, they're losing it. they suck. the new album sucks..." to read the next few lines.
-geoff tate can sing still. very well. he hit EVERYTHING, without even trying. -the band was tighter than a fist in a baby's ass. it sounded great. that's what 15+ years of playing together can do, i suppose.
couple of things.
- met ytsejim, and some other jammers. real cool. yj, i hope you had a grand time giving degarmo head for me. - geoff tate, as awesome as he may be, is starting to frighten me a little. he's starting to look a bit like GREG LAKE. the hair, especially (greg lake, ca. 1992). all geoff needs to do is put on a little weight, and start singing "tarkus", and it will be ETP- emerson, tate and palmer. - michael wilton.......no mic...no vocals from him. this was rather odd. kinda weird to see degarmo and jackson doing the backing parts. -speaking of chris, very nice of him to discover the phase pedal like he did tonight on "spreading the disease." if i remember correctly, i believe i once saw him list "dark side of the moon" as one of his most essential albums (a guitar magazine long ago). -anyone know what bass eddie's using now? -scott rockenfield......incredible. it's almost unreal- he's as close to a metronome as i've seen. wonder what he's like when he plays "loose", if he ever has. -"bridge". amazing. never really payed attention to that song, but i think i'm going to have to listen a little now.
- did anyone else there see the 2 lon-guylanders ho's walking around (there were a lot of them), one of them with the glitter all over? i didn't think plastic people could dig the ryche. maybe they were with their chumps...er...boyfriends.
so if you're waiting to see them, it's worth it. if you're whining, shut up already.
nuff said. ytsegoon
****************************************************************************** * david y. kobayashi thrak75@aol.com
"now it's time for them to deal with me." -m. portnoy ****************************************************************************** *
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:03:16 -0700 From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: LAST REMINDER!!! Message-ID: <33DED924.17F8@phnx.uswest.net>
Salutations from the management and staff of Ytse-Survey II (me):
We're REALLY REALLY almost finished! PLEASE, for the final time, for those of you who have been waiting until the last minute, and we're there, e-mail me at syoung@phnx.uswest.net with your 10 favorite 'non-Dream Theater' bands/artists -- Entries will be accepted until 11:59 p.m., July 31st; at that point, the entries will be compiled and a Ytse-Survey II champion crowned.
We have just 1 day to go, y'all. Let's have a huge push here at the end and go over the top.
Steve Y syoung@phnx.uswest.net
"KILL MY BOSS?!? Do I dare live out the American dream?" -- Homer Simpson
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 08:30:15 GMT From: djw_at_neon@smtpgate.walker.com To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: It Bites. Message-ID: <9707318703.AA870305717@smtpgate.walker.com>
Hi, No DTC at all but the album's not far away now... At the bottom of Jay Omega's post I noticed he mentioned It Bites. I don't know how many Jammers have heard of these guys (or the Singer/Guitarist Francis (sometimes Frank) Dunnery) but you should definitely check them out. Unfortunately they've now split up but they had the grace to leave us with three studio albums and a double live one. They're style is progressive rock with slightly poppy overtones. Every musician (four piece, guitar, bass, drums and keys) is the dogs bollocks (that's good in England). Their best Album (IMHO) is "Once Around The World". Advert over... Dave (a UK Jammer).
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:40:56 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Saviour Machine: Legend Part I Message-ID: <199707310740.AAA02677@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "Bruce D. Duesterhoeft" said: >WOW! >
We affectionately call it, Apocalyptic Metal... heheh
>Eric Clayton has a good voice, but doesn't show much range. Also I was >disappointed in the non-progness of each song. There was basic riff for >each song and that was it.
He's extremely powerful, you have to hear him live... he floors me... Legend Part I is a prelude, therefore they don't rip out on it... Saviour Machine Part II is probably the most progressive of their stuff, and Part I is classic!!! And the live video and CD are insane...
> >Also I thought it was going to be more gothic.
You gotta hear it all man... it's all varied yet the same...
>Yet, the CD is excellent and powerful!
Wait till you hear Legend Part II when it comes out...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% _+_+_+_+ Unix, Internet, Intranet Engineering _+_+_+_+ [][][][] Dr. Mosh's Progressive Feast [][][][] #$@#$#@# http://progmetal.gmsnet.com @#$@##@$
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 00:53:28 -0700 From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: Another Day in Malaysia Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970731075328Z-14072@ms.Kallback.com>
>> the popular people were Meatloaf, Bryan Adams, Duran Duran, and that >> ugly guy that kinda looks like Fabio and overdramatizes every song he >> sings. > >..Micheal Bolton? >~Eckie doubts his guess...Bolton doesn't look too much like Fabio
>
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