YTSEJAM Digest 2806
Today's Topics:
1) Various stuph about groups
by Jonathan Case <jcase@NEWTON.METR.uoknor.edu>
2)
by vancer1@juno.com
3) Fates Warning in Phoenix.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
4) One last Arizona jammerz note
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
5) !!! Current Ytse-Survey Int'l II Standings - TWO days left !!!
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
6) Naomi's Solar Pumpkin (NDTC)
by "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
7) New album purchases
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
8) Wheelin' and Dealin'
by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
9) Posers and stuff.
by "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net>
10) Dream Theater MP3 File - Yes Medley
by Scott Fuller <spacedye@rocketmail.com>
11) Prog/Death
by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
12) Trail of Tears
by "Matt Lamoureux" <matt_l@sprynet.com>
13) cherokees and the trail of tears
by Raivo Hool <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
14) 8-p
by Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt>
15) spiritual DT
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
16) Another day in Norway...
by "Iumentum" <alnygaar@online.no>
17) NWOBHM SOD....
by Hein Vandenabeele
18) gone fishi--Silverchair, and crappy DT songs
by caber1@concentric.net
19) apocalyptica
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
20) Fantasy football and DT questions...
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:47:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@NEWTON.METR.uoknor.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Various stuph about groups
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970729213915.7928A-100000@newton>
Just some comments about some CDs I have.
Agree or disagree, but these are my opinions.
ENCHANT:
A Blueprint of the World is GREAT!
Wounded is good, but doesn't live up to their first CD.
SAVATAGE:
How many of you agree that Dead Winter Dead is a true masterpiece, both
lyrically and musically?
A Handful of Rain is awesome as well. Therefore does anyone have other
Savatage recommendations for me if I REALLY like the above two CDs?
I'm terribly impressed with these 2 CDs by Savatage...
Galactic Cowboys:
I haven't heard their latest one yet, but have read some mixed reviews.
Some say it sounds like Nirvana?! YUK!!!!
Anyway, I would totally believe it, because I just heard Machine Fish for
the first time, and I think it absolutely sucks compared to their
self-titled and Space in your face CDs.
Stratovarious:
I recently acquired my first Stratovarious CD "Visions", their new one.
It's fairly ordinary as compared to say, Superior or Shadow Gallery, but
still impressive. I like their aggression and Yngwie-esque sound!
However, I think they still maintain their own identity from Yngwie.
Any other recommendations as to which Stratovarious CD is best to get?
I've ordered one more, but cannot remember the name now.
Well, that's it for now,
Jon Case
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:01:01 -0700
From: vancer1@juno.com
To: FSBoarder@aol.com, metallica-request@thinkage.on.ca, shaftt@juno.com,
Message-ID: <19970729.200102.16150.0.vancer1@juno.com>
You may be a poser if you go to a guitar shop, pick up a new guitar and
then play the opeing riff of [insert Nirvana song here].
-ryan
vancer1@juno.com
"it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it's just as
fun, but ya can't see!" -James Hetfield
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:15:37 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates Warning in Phoenix.
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970729201502.00808ed0@postoffice.syspac.com>
Eckie said it best. It was a great show. The entire band seemed very
into the music, especially the bass player. Everything was tight, focused,
and audible :) I especially liked the different electronic drum sounds
that Zonder was using. They made the music sound very ethereal, especially
when intertwined with the keyboard parts.
Anywayz, It was great to meet all of you local jammerz here, and I can't
wait to see you all again this fall for DREAM THEATER. This goes out to
Jake, Chris, Fernando, Mike, Nathan, Ed, Scott, Rick, Huichi, and anyone
else that I may have missed...thanks for making my first "prog" night a
great one :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:30:11 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: One last Arizona jammerz note
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970729203009.008079a0@postoffice.syspac.com>
About all of us jammerz at Guitar Center last night, it was great to have
the first actual Ytse JAM :)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:02:29 -0700
From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: !!! Current Ytse-Survey Int'l II Standings - TWO days left !!!
Message-ID: <33DD7965.6627@phnx.uswest.net>
Salutations from the management and staff of Ytse-Survey II (me):
We're REALLY almost finished! We only lack 9 entries to reach the goal
of 150, but there are only 5 DAYS LEFT! PLEASE, for the final time, for
those of you who have been waiting until the last minute, and we're
there, e-mail me at syoung@phnx.uswest.net with your 10 favorite
'non-Dream Theater' bands/artists -- Entries will be accepted until
11:59 p.m., July 31st; at that point, the entries will be compiled and a
Ytse-Survey II champion crowned.
Current statistics are as follows (as of 7/29/97, 10:00 p.m. AZ time):
Number of entries: 141
Number of different bands/artists mentioned: 336
Current Survey Top 10 (with number of entries):
1) Rush (77)
2) Queensryche (68)
3) Fates Warning (53)
4) Savatage (51)
5) Metallica (36)
6) Megadeth (33)
7) Angra (29)
Iron Maiden
9) Steve Vai (28)
10) Yes (27)
It looks like QR will be stripped of the title, folks. Rush has now
built a 9-point lead, and I seriously doubt that the lead is in
jeopardy, considering that the survey is over in two days. Could it
be that 'Test For Echo' has been more favorable to 'Jammers than
'HitNF'? FW and Savatage flip-flopped places again. FW now has a
slight lead for 3rd...must be the outstanding (I hear) tour. Once
again, the same 10 bands/artists occupy the Top 10 slots, though, once
again, the order has changed. Yes is teetering perilously on the edge
of the Top 10. These last two days should be interesting.
Other bands/artists making the 'honorable mention' list (14 entries or
more -- in no particular order): Tori Amos, Helloween, Lemur Voice,
Marillion, Pantera, Pink Floyd, Joe Satriani, Shadow Gallery,
Stratovarius, and Superior.
We have just 2 days to go, y'all -- we need just NINE more entries. I
know that there are at least nine of you out there who haven't
submitted. Let's have a huge push here at the end and go over the top.
Steve Y
syoung@phnx.uswest.net
"KILL MY BOSS?!? Do I dare live out the American dream?"
-- Homer Simpson
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:19:14 -0700
From: "Steven C. Young" <syoung@phnx.uswest.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Naomi's Solar Pumpkin (NDTC)
Message-ID: <33DD7D52.1CE2@phnx.uswest.net>
No Ytse-Survey Int'l II content, either (that's elsewhere in the 'Jam).
I received my copy of Ty Tabor's (the incredibly gifted
guitarist/vocalist GENIUS from King's X) solo CD, 'Naomi's Solar
Pumpkin', yesterday. All of you 'Jammers who profess to be true King's
X fans (and judging by the survey, there are at least 13 of you) really
need to order this disc, if you haven't already. It is thoroughly
enjoyable, and a great holdover until we get some new King's X, in the
very NEAR future, hopefully. It has a wide range of music on it,
all of which Ty performed and recorded himself (guitars, bass, drums,
and the coolest harmonies). From the powerful "Had To Move" to the
mesmerizing "Hollow Eyes (From A Disturbing Novel)" (my two personal
favorites) to the folksy "That's All", this is just a great disc; quite
possibly the most 'enjoyable' new disc for me this year (right up there
with the new GC, anyway). The disc is only $14 (postage & handling
INCLUDED), and arrived at my door in less than a week (my check was
actually made out to 'Ty Tabor' -- that is too cool). Check out the
details on the KX website (http://www.compassnet.com/grump/index.htm).
I guess I'm doing a lot of advertising for Ty, but I kind of felt like I
had to. The public, particularly KX fans, must know about Mr. Tabor's
efforts (and Mr. Pinnick and Mr. Gaskill's). Okay, that's about it.
Steve Y
syoung@phnx.uswest.net
"I can't believe I ate the whole thing."
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 01:00:05 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New album purchases
Message-ID: <33DED865.639E@auburn.net>
Hello all! I picked up 2 new discs today. One is the new Pantera live
album. It's got 2 new studio tracks that sound more like Far Beyond
Driven than Trendkill, which is good, IMO, and the 13 live tracks are
excellent. The other is a double live Deep Purple from the David
Coverdale era. Whoa! It's got Burn (my all-time favorite DP song), and a
20-minute version of Space Truckin' (it still ain't prog, though ;)
Overall, there's 11 tracks covering over 2 hours of live Purple. A
must-have for fans of the MKIII lineup.
Prog tape swap approaching fast. Sign up today at the URL below.
Take care,
Mark
-- *********************************************************************** * Mark Peters -- swifty@auburn.net -- Auburn University, Class of '99 * * Ytsejammer, tape trader at http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/index.html * * Progressive tape swap - http://www.auburn.net/~swifty/tapeswap.html * * * * "Isn't it interesting that only sex and excretion can be found * * legally obscene in the USA? Not violence, not neglect, not abuse of * * humans. Only shitting and fucking, two of nature's most necessary * * functions and irresistible forces. We're always trying to control * * and thwart nature, even in our language. Fuck that shit!" * * - George Carlin * ***********************************************************************------------------------------
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:20:55 -0400 From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Wheelin' and Dealin' Message-ID: <199707291820.OAA02820@darkstar.icdc.com>
>So that means they do have the "Lie" single on-hand
I wish *I* had the "Lie" single on-hand...
New deal:
"Lie" single for a 2nd row center Queenryche ticket (8/5, Philly, PA) plus an added $10 -- that's $51.50, folks -- what a deal! A steal, even!
And I might even throw in a complementary barbecue brush and deluxe chamois car-washing set...
As always, the above ticket is still for sale. Mail me, we'll talk. $20? Okay, fine, sure...
Brian Henderson, Ronco Cyberburlap Cyberburlap@icdc.com
"'Jingle All The Way' to the bank..." -- P. Hartman
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:18:10 -0600 From: "Korg Eksthrey" <KorgX3@cyberhighway.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Posers and stuff. Message-ID: <199707300623.XAA20899@odin.ax.com>
>You may be a poser if you go to a guitar shop, pick up a new guitar and >then play the opeing riff of [insert Nirvana song here].
Possibly so. I just met one tonight, my friend's cousin. Let me honestly say I have never met a poser till today. I usually try to avoid contact with them. It was kinduv funny actually, since I was in my room playing guitar and he started asking me if I can play Metallica so I said I used but I've forgotten how to play most of their stuff. (Now keep in mind I really haven't been worrying about playing other people's stuff for about 2 years, so I've forgotten most of it). He keeps pestering me to play Enter Sandman so I finally start and he just starts wowing and commenting what a great guitar player I am (I quite honestly admitthat I suck leg, but that's beside the point. Praise is praise) :) Anyway, I start into Motorbreath and he just maintains a blank stare. I play One he freaks. I play Fade to Black. Blank stare. I see the pattern. I try again. I play Silent Lucidity he freaks, I play I Don't Believe in Love, blank stare. Of course he really freaked when I started playing Wait for Sleep so I guess there still might be hope. :) And I thought you guys were just being overdramatic about this. :)
Anyway, I saw Air Force One tonight. Great flick. Used quite a few too many cliche parts (like the wire crossing trick from Space Camp and various other movies). It did keep my attention the whole way through so it must have been pretty good. ;)
Anyway, you guys enjoy your Fates show, since I won't be able to see em. Buy me a T-Shirt or something and I'll send you the cash (honest!)
Take care! KorgX3 KorgX3@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:25:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Fuller <spacedye@rocketmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater MP3 File - Yes Medley Message-ID: <19970730062559.24596.rocketmail@send2.rocketmail.com>
I recently found a copy of a Dream Theater MP3 file:
Yes Medley (Dream Theater w/Steve Howe) Machine Messiah/Heart of the Sunrise/ Close to the Edge/Siberian Khatru/Würm (instrumental; 31 Jan. 1995)
This file is 5.46M/Bytes in size, and CD quality.(of a live performance, that is).
If anyone would like the file, I can E-mail it to you.
spacedye@rocketmail.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/3079/
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Date: 30 Jul 97 09:52:21 +0200 From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi> To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Prog/Death Message-ID: <00217FB30200000101003B4555042E@mlespser1001.metsaliitto.fi>
Greetings ye 'jamanoids...
Vilzu wrote concerning a band called Damnatur: >guys were 16-17 years old!Has anyone else heard of a band mixing death >metal and prog?
>-Vilzu-
Lemme see, Cynic (US), Atheist (US), Sadist (ITA), Nocturnus (US) and Pestilence (HOL) come into mind instantaneously....then there's some dark/black metal bands with some prog influences like Arcturus (NOR). I hope this helps.
_Mape_
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 04:07:28 -0400 From: "Matt Lamoureux" <matt_l@sprynet.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Trail of Tears Message-ID: <199707300803.BAA17882@m9.sprynet.com>
Carlos Alfaro wrote: >Umm i was in class today and the teacher said something about "trail of >Tears" being someting that had to do with the cherokee (sorry if i wrote >it wrong) .. i wonder..is the DT song Trial or Trail of tears? .. and >would it be related??!?
There was a song about the Trail of Tears by Europe on "Final Countdown" album. IMHO - a pretty decent band with good, thoughtful lyrics. It was about the Cherokee being moved from their land to a reservation. I don't remember the particulars but it was a cool song. I don't know if the DT song is of a similar vein. I'd be interested to know also. Anyone?
- Matt
Matt Lamoureux E-mail: matt_l@sprynet.com Site: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/matt_l IRC: Swordsman
"Angel in our pocket, devil by our side, It's time to be Immortal, 'cause heroes never die!" - adaped from Megadeth's "Blood of Heroes"
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:50:56 +0300 (EET DST) From: Raivo Hool <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: cherokees and the trail of tears Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970730114725.24220A-100000@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
> Umm i was in class today and the teacher said something about "trail of > tears" being someting that had to do with the cherokee (sorry if i wrote > it wrong) .. i wonder..is the DT song Trial or Trail of tears? .. and
The Trail of Tears was what Indians called the long road to the Oklahoma reservation, where they were pushed away to make room for white folks. I've no idea as to where the Cherokees came into the picture. Maybe they thought up the term...
Even if the song isn't connected to the Trail Of Tears (it being Trial Of Tears), it's still quite well put title...
Raitz
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:24:50 +0200 From: Pedro Filipe <f.miguel@mail.telepac.pt> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 8-p Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970730092450.006633d4@mail.telepac.pt>
Does anyone have the sound bytes of the JP instructional video in .wav/real audio format? Is there a site where I can get these?
Is there any intructional video from Portnoy?
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:32:24 PDT From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: spiritual DT Message-ID: <199707301032.DAA10392@f23.hotmail.com>
Hello jammers!
>Does it talk to you spiritually?
Yeah,definitely.When I want to mellow out,I always listen to Space dye vest,Lifting shadows off a dream,and Wait for sleep. Those songs touch me deep inside.Also Surrounded has kind of a religious message in it."Let light surround you"
-Vilzu-
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:16:14 +0200 From: "Iumentum" <alnygaar@online.no> To: "Ytsjejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Another day in Norway... Message-ID: <199707301417.QAA12798@online.no>
A couple of years ago a cd called "More Power Ballads" came out in Norway. It contained DT's Another Day. This could have given DT a lot of attention, but no one ever tried to play anything on the radio to make it a hit. The interesting ting is this.. Whenever I play DT for girls they just say it is to heavy, and they don't like James vocals... But when I show them Another Day, they love that song... I actually had to copy that song to one of them to... She didn't want anything else that that song...
A month ago I heard a nation wide radio station play ACOS ... Only the first ten minutes... But it made me fall of the chair and nearly crush my guitar ! :)
Alexander
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Date: 30 Jul 97 17:06:33 EDT From: Hein Vandenabeele To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NWOBHM SOD.... Message-ID: <9707301813.AA0547@NYC-NTGW-N02.ny.jpmorgan.com>
SOD consisted of Charlie Benante and Scott Ian from Anthrax, Danny Lilker (Nuclear Assault) and Billy Milano (Anthrax roadie ???).........
Other NWOBHM: Raven, Tank, Diamond Head, BlitzKrieg, Satan, ... Lars Ulrich of Metallica was a huge NWOBHM fan and he made a double (?) compilation CD with only NWOBHM songs... Must be very interesting.
CU
H.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:30:38 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: gone fishi--Silverchair, and crappy DT songs Message-ID: <33DF7A3D.7B98@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> From: eckie@asu.edu > Subject: Oh yeah, I forgot > We were expecting some new DT material to be played while Fates was > getting set up.... > but we got Silverchair instead. :P
Maybe the new DT sounds like Silverchair... ;-) ___
Hey could somebody be so kind as to tell me what songs have only been released as b-sides? DT songs that is! :) I know Eve and TLF but any others?
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:46:46 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: apocalyptica Message-ID: <33DF8C16.4B89@caribe.net>
has anyone purchased this cd... apocalyptica.. its some acclaimed celloists playing metallica songs.. ive read very good reviews about it and im very interested in it.. does anyone haveit.. that can send me a wav or something??
--
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com mailto:progboy@mindless.com
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:48:17 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil> To: "'ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fantasy football and DT questions... Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-970730184817Z-10238@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
OK, first off - let's have some more participation here! We have a big FOUR people in the Ytsejam Fantasy Football League at ESPN's Sportzone. We need ten, I believe, to keep it in the family. There have to be six more people on this list that are interested...
Now for some DTC: (oh my god - from me!)
Does anyone out on this here list know whom it is that manages and or books our beloved DT? An acquaintance of mine is interested in booking them for a show (in MD - yeah!), but doesn't know how to get ahold of their representatives...
Anyone out here know?
TTFN Mike (I feel like a sig today...)
Division - The clock is ticking - nine days until Fates in Springfield... http://www.crosslink.net/~division or human email division@aol.com
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