YTSEJAM Digest 2805
Today's Topics:
1) !!!
by dreamtheater.fan@juno.com (Micchael Potvin)
2) grand illusion
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2801
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
4) Dreamscape,Cynic
by "Magnus Lind" <treasure.land@mailbox.swipnet.se>
5) K.M. w/ Fates?
by "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com>
6) Fates in Virginia-get together
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
7) Re: Fates In Phoenix (Ytsecon Phx) / Spoilers
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
8) RE: DT and Personal Meaning
by NightCast <nightcast@usa.net>
9) Fates in Phx
by "H.Yap" <auhcy@asu.edu>
10) dt ..trial of tears?
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
11) Queensryche set?
by George Bast <Gbast@Brickhouse.com>
12) Carbuncle Man!
by Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
13) new DT wav?
by Joe Wright <jrwee@gator.net>
14) Re: Queensryche set?
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
15) Trying to get on...
by Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
16) Oh yeah, I forgot
by eckie@asu.edu
17) New Arch Rival (Michael Harris)
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:48:58 EDT
From: dreamtheater.fan@juno.com (Micchael Potvin)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: !!!
Message-ID: <19970620.015541.7703.0.DreamTheater.fan@juno.com>
I love my new email address!
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:49:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: grand illusion
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970729154448.5361B-100000@qbert.rs.itd.umich.edu>
> Then again, I've eaten way too damn much Thai and Indian lately, and
> I've probably ripped a hole in my taste buds....
Hey! I eat Indian almost every day.....maybe that'd explain
something......
in other news, I saw a movie yesterday that was long, slow, black and
white, subtitled, and utterly one of the coolest flicks I've ever seen.
Jean Renoir's "Grand Illusion".....World War I story....a pilot and his
upper class colonel get shot down and captured by Germans, and their life
as PoW, their attempts at escape......
watching it, i was reminded of "The Great Escape" (Attenborough, Bronson,
DOuglas (i think) and a buch of other great names, another great war
movie)......that took a few things from grand illusion.....
If you've seen it, go to the internet movie data base and vote for it, it
need about 60 more votes to be eligible for the top 250 on that site....
Partha
guess what album I went to sleep listening to......
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:50:08 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2801
Message-ID: <33DE4970.4992@caribe.net>
Buck Stodgers wrote:
>
> Hey there!
> Okay, I have a decision to make. It's likely I won't have enough money
> to do both, so should I go to Progday, or see Megadeth in Florida? So
> many decisions...
>
for it it all would depend on the bands in progday.. any that you know
of??
does anyone have the band list?
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
mailto:progboy@mindless.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 22:35:33 +0200
From: "Magnus Lind" <treasure.land@mailbox.swipnet.se>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dreamscape,Cynic
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I also wonder where I can find: Cynic-Focus
Have anice day
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:42 -0700 (MST)
>Jonathan Case wrote:
Sorry to say he's not, but the show was still awesome!
To all the Phx and Tucson Jammers: Good to meet you all. Definately
Ytse on dudes,
eD
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:02:51 -0400 (EDT)
Kevin wrote:
I'm going. I got my ticket yesterday from Mike. I used to work in Tysons
Since there seems to be a ton of people from the jam going does anyone
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 14:02:05 PST8
>OY...it's 3:40 'n I JUST got back into my house after droppin' Vince
>I'm not the biggest Fates fan in the world (far from it, actually) but I
Pretty cool, long set.... You could see the owner of the Mason Jar giving
>I still think the setup for the under-age crowd SUCKS. We were the ones
>Oh, and the trips to Hooters and Guitar Center were great too! There's
~Mike
~Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ)
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:21:33 -0600
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> Does anyone find that some of their music talks to them on a personal
I think that's why all of us listen to DT to some extent or another. =
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:35:05 -0700
It was nice to finally meet some ytsejammers last night eventhough I was
Like Eckie mentioned, they were awesome!!!!!! Ray's voice...WOW!
During A Pleasant Shade of Grey, some stupid idiot raised both his hands
huichi
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:49:27 -0400
Umm i was in class today and the teacher said something about "trail of
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
mailto:progboy@mindless.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:45:18 -0400
From: George Bast <Gbast@Brickhouse.com>
To: "'ytsejam@arastar.com'" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Queensryche set?
Message-ID: <20E3326156F6D011B44100A0240012E85C9B@EXBERT.brickhouse.com>
Sorry for the NDTC, but can someone please e-mail me the set list for
the Queensryche show before Tate got sick? I'd like to know exactly
what I missed in last Sunday's show and I can't seem to find it in the
multitudes of Queensryche pages on the web.
Thanks
George Bast
gbast@brickhouse.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:07:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Carbuncle Man!
Message-ID: <199707292307.SAA01467@enteract.com>
> Free Advice: Try to avoid transcribing electric guitar music without an
> amp. Especially Ron Thal. Your fingers will hurt.
What a pussy!
> Subject: NEW DT SOON!
>
> I know for a fact that this guy is not pulling my chain since he is a
> huge DT fan and we used to be in a band together.
Seriously, dude, I didn't mean any offense... it's just that this type of thing has
happened before, so I was skeptical. I really do hope you get a copy of the tune. And I hope
you make a nice MP3 of it for everyone else. :)
> From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
> Subject: Death Metal and Prog
Athiest, Arcturus, Nocturnus... there are a few progressive death metal bands out
there.
> From: Mathieu Ferland <ferlandm@ift.ulaval.ca>
> Subject: Omnius guitarists...
> Is there anyone who know a CD called "Omnious guitarists from the
> unknown" ??
Don't have it, but I wish I did! I have most of the songs on it, so I passed it by.
> Does anyone can help me? I want to know if this CD is independent or
> distributed by a record company.
Shrapnel Records. Ominous Guitarists from the Unknown SHW-1057. Check out
http://www2.shrapnelrecords.com
Shrapnel puts out the vast majority of all shred music out there. I don't agree with
the quality of the contracts and the way they do business, but if you want shred, this is
where you're gonna find it.
> This album is very good. Some tracks are like Satriani stuff. One guy
> reproduced a Chopin's suite on an acoustic guitar, real fast, very
> fast.
That would be Ron Thal. Yes, THE Ron Thal. :)
- Chris Ptacek
- is being a dick
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:40:11 -0700
From: Joe Wright <jrwee@gator.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: new DT wav?
Message-ID: <33DEB79B.66F2@gator.net>
I personally don't have a website, but once I get the tape of the new
single I am more than willing to e-mail a zipped wav file to somebody
that will put it on the web for everyone to hear. The problem is going
from tape format to wav. I don't have a tape player, but I have some
friends that do. I think that my sound card has an line-in jack, but if
there is another way to go from tape to wav I sure would like to know.
Anyone interested in getting the file (once I get it) on their site
please let me know.
Joe
--
The Joser
jrwee@gator.net
Gators #1!
http://members.aol.com/mindscap/
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 17:48:31 PDT
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: Gbast@Brickhouse.com
Cc: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche set?
Message-ID: <199707300048.RAA24882@f35.hotmail.com>
>Sorry for the NDTC, but can someone please e-mail me the set list for
>the Queensryche show before Tate got sick? I'd like to know exactly
>what I missed in last Sunday's show and I can't seem to find it in the
>multitudes of Queensryche pages on the web.
I don't remember exactly the date, but if you go to the Screaming in
Digital site(www.scream.org) and do a search under "tour set list,"
you'll be able to find it.
Hope this helps!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a
kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensryche-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:16:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Loren Caler <lcaler@flash.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Trying to get on...
Message-ID: <199707300116.UAA01484@endeavor.flash.net>
I just recently changed my ISP and I was trying to re-subscribe to the
ytsejam, but it doesn't seem to be happening. Can someone check whats going
on for me? My old e-mail address was: llc@sure.net
I put subject asdf and typed : "subscribe ytsejam Loren Caler" on the body
of the e-mail, but haven't been able to get on yet. Thanks in advance.
Loren
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:34:39 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Oh yeah, I forgot
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970729183044.2402A-100000@general3.asu.edu>
We were expecting some new DT material to be played while Fates was
getting set up....
but we got Silverchair instead. :P If that isn't the most absolute
WRONG music to play at a prog metal concert, then the Spice Girls are.
But beyond that, the concert kicked ass! Heh...the dood standing in
front of me even got his cigarette lit by the singer! Pretty cool....
~Fates Eckie
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:38:44 -0500
From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New Arch Rival (Michael Harris)
Message-ID: <19970730023334371.AAA254@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
Hey- Michael Harris fans and metal fans in general - Michael Harris' band
from years past has a new album out! Arch Rival's new release "Third
Degree Burns" is available through Knights of the Round
www.knightsoftheround.com! According to Mike, the album has a heavy 80's
metal sound and is so far getting great responses... I'll post a review
when I get mine! You can also order from Michael himself. Mail him
guitout7@aol.com and ask about the new album... also : I would highly
recommend picking up his previous two solo releases "Defense Mechanizms"
and latest "Ego Decimation Profile".... since they too rock... later!
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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From: "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: K.M. w/ Fates?
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>
>Hopefully Kevin Moore is touring with them. That would be WAY COOL!
>Anyone know if Moore is playing with the Fates?
a "Jammin" night. Take it easy guys.
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fates in Virginia-get together
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970729165705.11910C-100000@bdmserver>
>>
>>Is there going to be any kind of 'jam pre - show for Fates? If it's
>>early enough, maybe I can make it - we have to have all of our gear in
>>by 5:00, and I probably won't have anything to do before 9:00 or so...
>>
>>Mike
>
>This is a point I was going to bring up. Someone (mike? Sav?) from
>NOVA should find a nice place, and we can all hang out. I know there
>are going to be many jammers at the show, to include D-Man, me (!), jens,
>Hartman, Steve Z (how many UMBC grads/students can be into Fates? I'd say
>five!), Pat? Taco Belhai? Backof? Iban? Mau? etc. Soooo, since I know
>nothing about the restaurant topography in NOVA, someone hook us up! I am
>defintely up for this.
but that is a little far from Springfield. Hopefully someone knows about
some decent places to hang out at. Also going to the show is Brandon Elhai
<belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>.
want keep track of all who's going?
| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fates In Phoenix (Ytsecon Phx) / Spoilers
Message-ID: <9706298702.AA870210387@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>off. To all that were there 'n recognized our humungous Dream Theater
>fan crowd (i.e., the crowd wearing exclusively DT t's) it was a blast
>meeting you all! Hell, this entire night's been awesome!
Yeah, it was good to put some faces to the names Eckie, Vince (and I forget
the rest already <G>)... Sorry I couldn't hang around longer, but that 2 hour
drive back to Tucson (and work the next morning) was looking grim after Fates
finished at 1:20...<G>... but well worth it!
>believe the encore material was from Parallels 'n another
>album...somebody else post the exact songs.
Yes, the show was really great... here is the setlist, I think this is right
(correct me if I'm wrong):
A Pleasant Shade of Gray
<first encore>
Face The Fear
Life In Still Water
The Eleventh Hour
<second encore>
??? - Didn't recognise this one, and Ray was running around the stage with
some crew member so I couldn't really hear what he was singing, any
clues?
Monument
We Only Say Goodbye
them the "cut" signal at about 1am, but they kept going <G>...
>makin' the most noise, that strip of kiddies lined up next to the
>bathrooms.
Yeah, it does suck for the under age crowd (they should just stamp the
hands or something), but at least they let people in the club... plenty of
venues are 21+ only, and that's really a shame...
>nothin' like seeing a crowd of 6 or 7 people wearing Dream Theater shirts
>(and a Savatage shirt) roaming a Guitar Center warehouse! I think we
>scared that Marilyn Manson fan out of the building....
Boy, I am sorry i missed out on that! <G>.... maybe next time...
Email: mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com / mkizer@goodnet.com / fugazi@weirdness.com
URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer
Fates Warning (Island in the Stream) & Dream Theater ("Unofficial" Song Book)
*** Sola sapientia est qui me in merda posuit ***
From: NightCast <nightcast@usa.net>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: DT and Personal Meaning
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> level? Does it talk to you spiritually? In many DT songs there are
> biblical overtones. Are DT themselves religious in some way? If one
> can answer that, please reply;)=20
That's definitely the reason I'm a DT fan, I can't play any instruments =
at all but still listen to them not to go "wow, they're good!" but =
because I like what I hear. There's a DT song for just about every way =
I'm feeling, whether pissed (Lie's a good example) or depressed (WFS, =
Surrounded)... Of course I will concede that they *are* good, since =
I've started comparing them to other things I hear on the radio and =
other groups I hear talked about on the Jam, and DT's music is so much =
fuller and complex then most of the rest. There's a lot more feeling in =
it too.. good example here is the start of Scarred, JP almost makes the =
guitar sounds like it's crying. BTW, am I the only person who thinks =
this? :)
=20
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From: "H.Yap" <auhcy@asu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates in Phx
Message-ID: <33DE700F.4A7DF065@asu.edu>
a little buzzed after the show. :-) Finally able to put the faces to
email names.
For the 2 encores, they played (not in particular order) Life in Still
Waters, Monument, Face the Fear, one song I didn't recognize,The 11th
hour, and We Only Say Goodbye, then they left. (did I leave anything
out?)
with thumbs down and Ray noticed it and kind of threw a look that was
like "why did you do that for?" I was standing right next to him and
wanted to punch him out but gave him a real nasty look instead, he left
shortly after that. What an idiot.
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: dt ..trial of tears?
Message-ID: <33DE7377.3FEF@caribe.net>
tears" being someting that had to do with the cherokee (sorry if i wrote
it wrong) .. i wonder..is the DT song Trial or Trail of tears? .. and
would it be related??!?
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