YTSEJAM Digest 2802
Today's Topics:
1) QR at Nissan Pavillion
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
2) Pulling Chains
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
3) Re: QR at Nissan Pavillion
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
4) QR at the Nissan
by
5) Re: WAH WAH
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
6) Some misc.stuff NDTC
by Chad Martin <mart0312@gold.tc.umn.edu>
7) NWOBHM
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
8) Re: NWOBHM
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br>
9) Re: Meshuggah
by Seroussi <seroussi@algonet.se>
10) Journey Info, one more time!
by BRYNMAWR@webtv.net (D. J. FARRELL)
11) Deep Ytse-nadz thoughts
by BRYNMAWR@webtv.net (D. J. FARRELL)
12) The Chevron/McDonald's Connection
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
13) Lots of You Not Me stuff, and other NDTC stuff...
by caber1@concentric.net
14) QR show this Saturday night
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
15) Re: NWOBHM
by Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au
16) QR single/Nissan
by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:22:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: QR at Nissan Pavillion
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970728161835.27844A-100000@bdmserver>
Oh yeah one good thing about there being no one at the show was there was
no traffic getting out so the normal 2-3 hours sitting in your car was
only about 15 minutes...
Mike Blevins wrote:
>Did anyone catch QR at Nissan Pavilion on Sat.? What did you think of
>the opener? (Just curious - we lost this competition...)
I thought they sucked IMHO. I found them boring. I thought the lead
singer was a look a like of the Offsprings lead singer. The lead singer
all he did was hop up and down. Annoying in my opinion. I thought their
name was Poor or Whore until near the end of their set when I saw the
letters FOUR on their very tiny monitors. The woman bassist was the only
bright spot... The band itself was your typical wanna be alternative band.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:42:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Pulling Chains
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970728163553.2987A-100000@galileo.cris.com>
Christopher Ptacek wrote:
>> From: Joe Wright <jrwee@gator.net>
>> Subject: 1ST DT SINGLE!!!!!
>>
>> HAGANAGAAAAA!
>> This just in folks! A friend of mine who is interning at WEA said that
>> he has a copy of the first DT single and it is (drum roll please.....)
>> "YOU NOT ME". Here is what he said incase you guys think I'm an
>> impostor or something...
>
> Hmm... is this real, or does anyone thing this dude's chain has
> been thoroughly pulled (I hope the former... the sooner we get our
> fix, the better!)
I'd put my money on the former. I know Joe, and I don't think he'd pull
some bullshit like this. And I doubt his buddy interning at EastWest would
make up a crock either. Hell, his buddy even got the title right, because
we all know the song was renamed recently, right? :)
Rick Audet
Dolby Labs
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:46:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: QR at Nissan Pavillion
Message-ID: <199707282046.QAA07843@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
Pat said:
> Oh yeah one good thing about there being no one at the show was there was
> no traffic getting out so the normal 2-3 hours sitting in your car was
> only about 15 minutes...
>
damn, I wish that was the case with me on Sunday....The Fair
ended at around 11:30, but it was about 2:30 before we even
bothered getting in the car. Thank god for leftover tailgate
beer (for me) and the insane amount of nitrous for the rest of the
people...
Why can't these so-called engineers realize that when you build
a place that can hold 25K people, there should be a respective
change in the roadwork in the area???? I mean, they did a very
good job with Giants Stadium, I know that Yankee Stadium is a
horror (thank god for subways), and I could imagine how Camden
Yards must be, just from being there a couple of times....
oh well..........just ranting
By the way, can someone please E-mail with the name of the
guitarist who does Paganini's Caprices? Wasn't it Elliot
Fisk or something like that....I would appreciate some
album info (company, date, etc.) if possible.
Thanks in advance,
Al
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:01:34 -0400 To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: QR at the Nissan Message-ID: <33DD16BE.E7BF11CC@erols.com>
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Date: July 28,1997 From: Madrigal
Did anyone catch QR at Nissan Pavilion on Sat.? What did you think of the opener? (Just curious - we lost this competition...)
Let me first ask what type of music you play. The band that opened "Four" was typical of DC101 (Alterno-thrash) but I didn't really think it went over well with the QR crowd. Why DC101 picked the band is beyond me since you never hear QR on that station anyway. 98Rock would have been a better choice for selecting band but who knows who would have won. Suffice it to say, I hope you guys are much better!
The show at the Nissan was good but not as good as PL. You could see Geoff coughing in the background between songs and the setlist was altered due to giving his voice a break. It was still an awesome show regardless of illness
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:27:36 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: WAH WAH Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970728152734.0080bd00@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 05:15 AM 7/28/97 -0700, you wrote: >I want to buy a wah wah to use with my brand new Ibanez Jem 7BSB. >I had in mind the Dunlop Crybaby or the Morley Bad Horsie (yeah..Steve= > rulz!). >Any sugestions?
Get a rackmount wah. They don't break as easily. Plus you can program them to do all sorts of different wah sounds :)
Crybabies have "pots" that need to be replaced every so often, and Morley's generally turn to shit after a year or so. There may be exceptions, but I would never buy another morley product again after my old PWV that lasted about a year before the tone began to suck.
Laterz,
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:35:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Chad Martin <mart0312@gold.tc.umn.edu> To: "All 'Jammers" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Some misc.stuff NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970728171815.7899A-100000@gold.tc.umn.edu>
I just came back from Milwaukee Metalfest XI, and I'm sure most of you would have hated it. It was basically a large collection of a bunch of obscure death metal bands, with a couple you might have heard of: Exodus and Stomtroopers of Death (a Scott Ian side project).
Anyway, it was really neat, the band I basically came there to see, Obituary, had a autograph signing session, and I got the entire band to sign a flag I just bought of their second newest album, World Demise.
Which brings me to my point: Besides being damn happy about the autos, I have noticed some metioning of Sepultura around here, and for those of you who like them, try some Obituary. Their kind is rare: a non-satanic death metal band that can really play, and occasionally has a message to their music (World Demise is about environmental issues, e.g.). If you can stand the classic growling, mostly indecipherable lyrics, then you'll probably like them. Great guys in person, too.
Rocky, the reason I did get my undies in a bundle is because I know people like that, and they piss me off to no end. I had assumed that subscribing to a DT list would help me escape the ignorance of the average music listener, so when I saw that, I went nutso.
Tool has not left a CD player since I got Aenima. They are truly unique, and not many bands today can do the psycho shit these guys write, and actually make it into a good song. I love his lyrics, too. These guys are, how do you say it, mildly outspoken.
That's my waste of bandwidth for today.
Chad Martin mart0312@gold.tc.umn.edu chadbert@dnrc.org O-
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:59:44 -0500 From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert) To: "Ytsejam Mailing List" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: NWOBHM Message-ID: <19970728225506167.AAA86@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
> story entirely. I think it's about time for something like the NWOBHM >again...
What does that stand for? I understand what type of bands it applies to, but not necessarily what the letters stand for... · • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:25:30 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@linux.ime.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: NWOBHM Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970728202429.6563A-100000@turing.ime.usp.br>
On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Mark Lampert wrote:
> > story entirely. I think it's about time for something like the NWOBHM > >again... > > What does that stand for? I understand what type of bands it applies to, > but not necessarily what the letters stand for...
New Wave Of British Heavy Metal. And people out there says that there is a New Wave Of Swedish Death Metal... :-)
Hope this helps, Roger...
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:50:40 +0200 From: Seroussi <seroussi@algonet.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Meshuggah Message-ID: <33DCEA00.F360B22A@algonet.se>
> From: "James E. Thorpe" <thirdhvn@community.net> > > What does Meshuggah mean? Sounds like a jewish name or something. > It means a crazy person in hebrew.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:58:04 -0400 From: BRYNMAWR@webtv.net (D. J. FARRELL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: JE78674@ltu.edu Subject: Journey Info, one more time! Message-ID: <199707282358.QAA25832@mailtod-112.bryant.webtv.net>
Greetings!!! Fellow Ytse-Jamers, and Jeff E. in particular, who requested, yet again, information on what's up with Journey. I dunno. Maybe you missed 'Jam #2790, where I posted something to the effect that Steve Perry messed up his hip or something. You also missed the URL of Journey's website at www.journey.simplenet.com. (not that I actually mind repeating myself...) :) Now that that's cleared up, maybe I can get aound to posting some DTC. (time to place an order with Mike Bahr.) Gotta jet, y'all Keep on Rockin' D. J. Farrell
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:18:01 -0400 From: BRYNMAWR@webtv.net (D. J. FARRELL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Deep Ytse-nadz thoughts Message-ID: <199707290018.RAA27124@mailtod-112.bryant.webtv.net>
In response to Issac Sabetai, who wrote in 'Jam #2799:
"I feel sorry for all female fans of DT. They can never experience that wonderful, tingling sensation of blasting DT on the stereo and having their nadz rock along."
Of course they can!!! They just have to turn it up louder!!! (at least that's what they tell me.) D. J. (again)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:19:27 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Chevron/McDonald's Connection Message-ID: <199707290019.RAA10946@main.cfmc.com>
>From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> > >> Anyway, with the mention of McDonald's it brought up a good point. If >> eating there makes people sick (well, it does me anyway) and their food >> in general tastes like shit, why do people go there? > >Because most humans love the taste of FAT. This holds true for lots of >mammals. Lots of people I know make fun of McDonalds, but when we're on >I-5 and none of us have eaten for eight hours and there's a sign for a >McD's, they become strangely accepting to the idea of eating there.
You're up a little farther than I am, but I can make some recommendations, depending on where along the I-5 you are. I actually don't much care for McDonald's -- I don't get sick on anything, but the grub is a little flat. Then again, I've eaten way too damn much Thai and Indian lately, and I've probably ripped a hole in my taste buds....
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 19:56:46 -0700 From: caber1@concentric.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lots of You Not Me stuff, and other NDTC stuff... Message-ID: <33DD5BA6.7940@concentric.net>
Hi everyone,
> From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> > Subject: Re: DT related, but, no content
> i dont believe this song has been heard yet.. the one they were talking > about last time i think it was where are you now..which is not gonna be > on the album at all..
Ok, I might be wrong, but, wasn't MP or JP playing You not Me, or whatever the title is this week, in their clinics? Anyone who can clear this up, I would, like, say "thanks," or something. ___ > From: "Edwin Voras" <Edwin.Voras@MCI.Com> > Subject: RE: The world sucks, more or less > Along those same lines is the fact that public education > no longer feels the need to teach kids anything about the arts. No > music or Art or Theater or Sports in my kids schools, just Math, History > Language and Science and while I'm not saying those are indeed improtant, ^^^^^^^^^ > life looses alot without the Arts. (Jumping off of my Soapbox now.) ^^^^^^ This is why we don't learn about the Arts in school. (j/k)
Man, this will be embrassing if I have even one spelling mistake in here. :-/ :) ___ > From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> > Subject: Popularity sucks. > Woo-hoo! I had nearly forgotten this time honored instrument. Did you > learn the zither too D? The two instruments created for the musically > inept. Oh, I forgot the third: bass. Heheh...
Hey, did you know the reason JM hardly ever talks, is because he spits acid? What? You didn't? Well, that's how KM lost his balls in the first place. :) ___
> Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> > Subject: Extra Extra! Prog Goes Mainstream! Partha blows head off!
> Yes. There is a lot of video footage available of Mike playing his V neck > guitars and his 4 neck guitars. He's the inspiration behind Steve Vai's 3 neck heart > shaped guitar (the neck configuration looks like this, if you're imaginative: \// )
Almost everyone has seen that thing. You guys just don't know it! :) It's in that David Lee Roth video, where Davie-boy is mountain climbing. Well, he's not really climbing, more like...He's stuck and is trying to move. :) ___ > From: George Bast <Gbast@Brickhouse.com> > Subject: Re: DT related, but, no content > Actually, Mike played this song at one or more drum clinics last year. > Of course, at the time it was titled "You Or Me" and it is/was > definitely more "mainstream-sounding", but sounded real cool > nonetheless. Anyone that was at the Sarasota, Fl clinic can attest to > that. However, I'm willing to bet the song has gone through some > changes just like the title has. :) I really wish I had recorded the > clinic, because that song and Raise the Knife are like a blur to me now.
You're what I call an "informed individual." :)
Yeah, somebody backs me up! Could those of you who were at MP clinics, tell us what you remember of the song? Besides that it's catchy. Oh, I just thought of something![rocks grinding] This means You Not Me might be played in the beginning of FW shows! FW tour update, please! ;-) ___
> Christopher Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
> The more fat you eat in your diet, the more you crave fat and cholesterol. If > you know anyone who's recently gone vegetarian for non moral reasons, they'll tell you > (any I've ever met anyways... my theory could be TOTALLY wrong) that they really CAN'T > eat meat or greasy food very much. You start to realize the nastiness of the slimey > food you've been eating for the past few years. Of course I just finished a nice > pepperoni pizza... :)
"Remember, no matter what they tell you, you can never have enough sugar."
John McCabe caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:30:23 PDT From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: QR show this Saturday night Message-ID: <199707290130.SAA01026@f27.hotmail.com>
I hate to bug you guys about this after I already have once, but...
Is anyone going to the QR show this Saturday night who can give me a lift? As I mentioned before, I'm not from the Boston area, but I'm here for the Berklee performance program, during which the Indianapolis show also was, so I got tickets to this one instead. I was planning to just take the commuter rail, but my mom(you know how they are ;-) ) is worried about me getting from the train station to the arena, and then to a hotel for the night(the show ends after the last train leaves back to Boston) and so she's bugging me to ask someone.
Thanx!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:35:13 +1000 From: Graham.Boyle.149036@navy.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NWOBHM Message-ID: <4A2564E2.00812D0A.00@nschq-e-navy.navy.gov.au>
New Wave Of British Heavy Metal Came about in the early 80's with bands like Iron Maiden, Saxon, Def Lappard, Girl, Diamond Head and a whole heap of other bands that I can't remember right now.
gRaHam
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: QR single/Nissan Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970729001000.27308C-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>
Jammers:
I went to a Record and Tape Traders today and found the import single of "sign of the times." It also has two unplugged tracks (silent lucidity and the killing words). The 4th track on it is a song that was on the Japanese version of HITNF called "chasing blue sky." Pretty cool, laid back song. I think of driving in open country when I hear this song.
Also ended up going to the Nissan Pavillion show this past saturday. I was supposed to meet a friend of mine who came down from New Jersey (who happens to be part of the fan club). Anyways, I see her and she throws a t-shirt at me with autographs from QR on it. I couldn't believe it. I don't know why she bought a t-shirt for me and was willing to get it signed, but hell, I'm not complaining. She's a die hard fan so she came with some internet Rychers. I met Skadz's equivalent Shag (who runs The Screaming In Digital digest) along with some other netters. Pretty cool people.
QR put on a good show but they cut the show about half an hour early because of Geoff. I was kinda upset about this. I really wanted to see THOTF live as well as "walk in the shadows." Well, at least I got to see TLWB and Della Brown live. They did a better job on the Promised Land tour, though.
Oh yeah, before the show there was this guy playing an acoustic guitar right by the t-shirts and food areas. When I showed up, I heard him playing "over the hills and far away." Then he ripped into some Rush songs. The best part was when he played 2112: overture acoustically. Pretty interesting version of it.
All in all, I had fun, but next time they better play for at least 2 hours or else I'm gonna have Dream Theater kick their ass.
Brandon
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