YTSEJAM Digest 2607
Today's Topics:
1) MP's clinic video
by Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
2) YTSEJAM digest 2606
by <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
3) Re: To Live Forever
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
4) Re: To Live Forever
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
5) Rudess-Morganstein Clinic Date Correction!
by "Dave Neff" <dneff@maaco.com>
6) To Live Forever
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
7) That CD Place
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
8) Mike Bahr's new system
by imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg)
9) The no-talent whore...aka "Go down on THIS in a theater, you bitch."
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
10) Re: MP's clinic video
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
11)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
12)
by Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
13) Re: CD Online
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
14) Candygram for Mongo
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
15) Occam's Razor
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
16) Re: CD Online
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
17) humor(fwd)
by King of The Internet <skooc@earthlink.net>
18) DT collectibles for sale
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
19) Re: DT collectibles for sale
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 14:28:00 -0500
From: Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MP's clinic video
Message-ID: <33947040.6E36@ix.netcom.com>
Jammers-
Has anyone seen MP's clinic video? I'd love to check it out, but I'd
like to know a little about it before dropping $40.
Chip
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Date: Wed, 4 Jun 97 3:21:03 GMT+8
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:41:31 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: To Live Forever
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970603163128.24839A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, The Digital Man wrote:
> This message is for anybody that has heard TLF and liked it: get the Lie
> single. It has a studio version of the song that will just melt you. The
> first time I heard it, I was astounded at how *good* it was. (Then again,
> I was used to LitS and Subcon quality.) I'd always liked the song, but
> after getting the single, it's one of my two or three favorite DT tracks.
> (Oh, and boys, if you're reading this, consider playing this one on the
> next tour. :)
Finally some DT content arose here! :-)
Here follow two ideas that I'd really like to see in practice:
- why not release live videos for each tour concluded? I mean,
something like Metallica has done with "Live Shit: Binge & Purge". That
would really kick ass and drop the number of fans hungry for new material
(although DT has been having a lot of trouble with their label, but this
doesn't mean my idea is uninteresting; only a bit unpractical, maybe
(I'm not really certain that it is that unpractical));
- why not put release a special edition album with rare tracks
such as "To Live Forever" and "Eve" and some demos as a bonus CD?
(something like Iron Maiden has done with their "Best of the Beast": they
have released at least 3 versions of this album: the single one; the
double without booklet and the double one with the special booklet. Dream
Theater could do something like this, I think).
BTW, these are only my insane ideas for the moment, subject to
change anytime soon... :-)
See ya, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:03:21 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: To Live Forever Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970603160201.1091A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Rogerio Brito wrote:
> - why not put release a special edition album with rare tracks > such as "To Live Forever" and "Eve" and some demos as a bonus CD?
Because those of us that actually own the Lie and TSM singles wouldn't feel so special anymore. :)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:03:58 -0400 From: "Dave Neff" <dneff@maaco.com> To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Rudess-Morganstein Clinic Date Correction! Message-ID: <199706032004.NAA16563@odin.ax.com>
Aack!! Rudess's home page has some info wrong!!!
June 3rd Sam Ash King of Prussia PA (tonight, 8:00pm) June 4th Sam Ash Columbus Ohio
is what it should be. One of his pages is right, the other isn't. :P I just checked with the KOP store and it is tonight the 3rd! Hoping y'all get this in time ...
- Dave (dneff@maaco.com)
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:21:22 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: To Live Forever Message-ID: <199706032021.AA08826@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
>Does anyone have any idea of DT tour dates coming down the pipeline?
There is an outside possibility (way outside) that they may open for Queensryche on the East Coast from talk in 'Ryche circles, but I wouldn't hold your breath. And thanks for being polite about your request. Welcome to the Jam!(See Eric, I'm being nicer...:)) Tour dates, as they are available can be found on the DT website http://www.rsabbs.com/dt/ Merlo said: >This message is for anybody that has heard TLF and liked it: get the >Lie single.
Easier said than done. Some of us have been trying for two years now... I heard TLF on the IAW tour when they played in Agawam, MA. When Awake came out, I just wanted Lie to have the single, then I got the LiT vid and liked TLF even more. Now I have the Uncovered tape, and I'm clawing my hair out to find the damn thing!!!!!! Thanks to Marcelo for giving me something to go on... Oh, and sorry for posting three times in a row to the last Jam, but there was actually DT content in my head for once!:) -- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com *************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 97 16:26 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: That CD Place Message-ID: <m0wZ09q-000AgtC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
I was tempted to do business with That CD Place because they are so close to where I live (living near Buffalo, NY) but the selection is not that great.
Today's New Releases:
Seven Mary Three- Rock Crown (pretty cool album...they surely do not sound alternative on this album though...I think they redefined themselves as a more straight-ahead rock band now) Flotsam And Jetsam- High (should be coming in the mail tomorrow or Thursday...highly anticipating) Bruce Dickinson- Accident Of Birth (still have yet to purchase)...
Don
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:26:28 -0700 (PDT) From: imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mike Bahr's new system Message-ID: <199706032026.NAA16832@odin.ax.com>
I really have to beg Mr. Bahr not to go through with his newly invented delivery system. Sure, it probably would make shipping faster, but unfortunately it also gives American residents a huge advantage. Since the ones who pay first would get their discs first, obviously the CD's will be sold out before the Euro-customers' payment arrive. An e-mail however, travels equally fast no matter where you send it from. Secondly, I know americans are used to paying by cheques, but in Europe we can't simply make out a cheque and send it to the US, because the banks over there won't accept them. So, we either send cash, or we get a special cheque at the bank. The only problem with these are that they are real expensive, they cost almost as much as the CD itself, which leads me to believe that many Europeans would rather take the risk of sending cash (at least I do). And if the CD's are already sold out when the cash arrives, well what then? Maybe I'm overseeing some obvious solution to this problem. If so, please point it out!
oOo If a man could pass through Paradise in a dream, and have a flower presented to him as a pledge that his soul had really been there, and if he found that flower in his hand when he awoke - Aye, and what then? oOo Niklas
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 97 15:28:28 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The no-talent whore...aka "Go down on THIS in a theater, you bitch." Message-ID: <33947e6b5b56816@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> You should know better than this. I'm sure there's some amount of irony > here, but I'm not really seeing it. And, incidentally, I've seen and read a > number of interviews with her. And, despite her age, she comes across as > unusually intelligent, perhaps even exceptionally so. In a monosyllabic > world, Alanis Morrisette seems a "savant" without the "idiot."
I'm not sure what you've read, but I've also seen interviews, and she strikes me as a complete moron trying to sound intelligent through parroting of pop angst bullshit...and her band is even stupider. They couldn't have a coherent thought if you handed it to them whole.
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:36:21 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: MP's clinic video Message-ID: <19970603.133944.11142.4.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>Has anyone seen MP's clinic video? I'd love to check it out, but I'd >like to know a little about it before dropping $40.
I don't know, but if a guy named Stan Tyzka offers to trade it to you, just say no. I had worked a trade out with him for it and he got my vid I sent him, then all of a sudden he stopped answering my emails and I've never heard from him again.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:36:20 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <19970603.133944.11142.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
I was reading a post from the Queen list where someone posted that Lars Ulrich is a better drummer than Neil Peart, on a techinal level. Can you believe it? Lars is a better drummer than Neil Peart?
I really had a good laugh over that one.
Scott ******************************************************************************************* Mary had a little lamb she kept in her backyard and when she took her panties off his wooly DICK got hard. - Dice ******************************************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:47:21 -0400 From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970603164713.007ad6c0@ionsys.com>
>Lars, no one cares... Go work part time at James' caribou farm. ;)
You're right. I forgot for a second who I was talking to there. I've now configured my software to filter out all of Scott's messages.
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:36:20 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CD Online Message-ID: <19970603.133944.11142.2.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997 10:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> writes: >Hello, > Sorry if this is a waste of bandwidth, but has anyone heard >of, or done business with a CD online place called That CD Place. >They're located in Binghamton, NY. Any SUNY students know the place? >They have some DT stuff that interests me, and maybe others.
I think they're called Eric's CD Mine now and moved to Scranton, PA. I've dealt with them in the past and felt their prices were fair and they were prompt in getting my CD to me.
BTW the CD was DT - Majestic Harmonies.
Scott
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:42:38 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Candygram for Mongo Message-ID: <199706032042.NAA08520@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> > >Anybody hear of a group 'Dream STH' (I think that's what the DJ said)? >They've been playing a new song by themon the radio a lot, and it's got >a sound I can live with :) Vocals remind me of AIC, music overall is >progressive, heavy and even kewl :)
Yeah, actually. They've copped to being really into Alice in Chains in a couple of interviews with them that I've read. I, too, think they're pretty cool...maybe a little derivative, but even Rush sounded a lot like Zeppelin at the outset.
>From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) > >I've read a few of these, and out of all the ones I read, you seem to be >the only one that seems to want to start a "My country is better than yours" >thread. All the other ones talk about North America, continent or country. If >you can't see the difference than I don't know what to say.
Damnit. No! I, too, want that thread. Support the People's Front of Judea!
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Power Windows 2. Iron Maiden: Live After Death 3. Bela Fleck and the Flecktones: Three Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 4. John Coltrane: A Love Supreme 5. Joan Osborne: Relish
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:08:12 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Occam's Razor Message-ID: <199706032108.OAA09642@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com> > >(Donovan Bailey: STILL the world's fastest man)
Just to make a point: Historically speaking, haven't folks generally referred to the winner of the 100 meters as "the world's fastest man?" Why in hell, then, do we need a 150 meter race to decide if that's still true? Bailey's not likely to win a 400, of course, but is that what we're asking here? Ah well....
>From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> > >Hate to break it to you, but Mexico is made up of states, too. >As a matter of fact, their official name is the United States of Mexico. >So, by your logic, Mexicans would in practice be known as "Americans," too.
By my reckoning, they'd be called "Mexicans." Just curious how you're conjugating "Mexico" to "Americans." They certainly are, incidentally "Norteamericanos."
>In my personal opinion, it is unfortunate that the US appropriated the >generic (where have I heard that word before?) term "American" and >made it apply only to its citizens. I guess might makes right, but I >sure can see where it would tick off some lonely Chileans pissing on >each other to keep warm down in Punta Arenas.
Yeah, it's a good point, but, because of the population base and political clout and worldwide commerce and any number of other factors, those folks who like in the US are often called "Americans," both in the US and throughout the world (though, of course, not so much in the countries of North and South America, where there are several people, like the ones here, who don't like the origin of the term).
>From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling) > >Hello all from sunny southern California... > Firstly, I thought I was going to be screwed coming back down here >from Berkeley on the music front. Up there you can find almost anything >you want used, aka cheap. I thought I was going to be coming back to the >high priced world of LA where the cheapest buy I was going to find was at >Best Buy. Well I was wrong. I think I am going to be dropping by my >friendly neighborhood Warehouse quite often... they have a huge used >selection for dirt cheap. I didn't have the money today, but as soon as I >do I am going to pick up a $4.99 copy of SG Carved In Stone. And I thought >I was screwed... Now I need to see if they have any Marillion, which >brings me to my next point...
Yeah, Berkeley's got some good record stores, particularly the ones on Telegraph, but most of the Bay Area doesn't really feature great record stores. I'm actually pretty well-acquainted with the LA record store scene, so, if you're struggling a little, I can make a few recommendations (now THERE'S something that shoulda been in private e-mail, huh?).
>PS: If anyone is interested, Accomplice is playing this Friday in Lakewood, >CA, e-mail me for details if you are interested (Dr. Mosh?).
Yes! They're an AWESOME band, eh? They've really been the definitive prog band down there, at least in the South Bay, for quite a while. So, hard as it might be to catch that local phenomenon, I'm HIGHLY recommending the band to anyone on this list who has the opportunity to cross paths with them or their CD.
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Power Windows 2. Pink Floyd: The Division Bell 3. Anthrax: State of Euphoria 4. Bela Fleck and the Flecktones: Three Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest 5. Joan Osborne: Relish
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 18:23:29 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: CD Online Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970603182143.25173A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Scott Cook wrote:
> BTW the CD was DT - Majestic Harmonies.
Any comments about this CD? I've seen lots of this one here, but since the places where I checked didn't have a CD player handy, I thought I would not spend my hard earned money on it. Better safe than sorry, but I may change my point of view after hearing to some comments, you know. :-)
Thanks for any comments, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:26:43 -0700 (PDT) From: King of The Internet <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: humor(fwd) Message-ID: <199706032126.OAA03707@italy.it.earthlink.net>
Here's a couple of jokes for y'all >-------------------------------------- > >Penis Reduction > >A man went to see a doctor because of a very high, squeaky, >annoying voice. The doctor examined him, and told him that >the only way would be to replace his extremely large penis >with a smaller one. The guy is desperate and decides to go >through with the operation. It's a great success and the >man has a fantastic baritone. >But after some time the guy's sex life deteriorates and he >decides to see the doctor to try get his original equipment >back. >He says to the doctor, "Doctor, is there any way that you could >get me my organ back, my sex life has gone to pot." >"Not on your life!!" the doctor replies in a high, squeaky, >annoying voice.
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>The Magic Mirror > >This lady goes shopping in an antique shop and looks around. >Suddenly she sees this pretty mirror for $5000 dollars. Shocked, she >asked the sales lady why in the world was it so expensive. The clerk >says its a magic mirror and proceeds to demonstrate. She unbuttons >her blouse and goes' "Mirror, mirror on the wall make my boobs size 44." >Then poof, they swelled to size 44. Excited, the lady bought it and went >home to show her husband. Sure enough he was pissed at the price so she >showed him what it could really do. She unbuttoned her blouse like the >clerk did and says' "mirror mirror on the wall make my boobs size 44!" >Poof, they swelled up like melons. The husband got really excited and >wanted a try. So he goes, "Mirror mirror on the wall, make my penis hit >the floor" Poof! His legs fell off.
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:42:37 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT collectibles for sale Message-ID: <199706032142.OAA02640@goodnet.com>
Just a few quick notes. All of these are mint condition originals.
FOR SALE...
John Myung "Progressive Bass Concepts" video - Japan - $30.00 Mike Portnoy "Progressive Drum Concepts" video - Japan - $30.00
Being as how I'm not in a band anymore, it's really not necessary for me to own these. :)
Also...
Dream Theater "Uncovered" 2CD boot - Japan - $50.00 (RS gig, soundboard) Queensryche "Building Empires" video - USA - $10.00
I bought the laserdisc of QR so I no longer need the tape. Also the DAT of the Uncovered show that I managed to obtain is near-identical in quality to the Uncovered boot, and I already had DATs of all the bonus tracks and such. So basically these are ballast in _my_ collection, yet I'm sure someone out there would really dig having them.
Don't worry folks, I'm not hurting for money... just time to do a little culling of the herd, of stuff that's perfectly good but that I just ain't using, for whatever reason.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 17:46:35 -0400 From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT collectibles for sale Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970603174635.0069bf54@mail.ee.net>
At 02:50 PM 6/3/97 -0700, you wrote: >Dream Theater "Uncovered" 2CD boot - Japan - $50.00 (RS gig, soundboard) > I will take this if it is still available.
Joe
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