YTSEJAM Digest 2614
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2611
by October777@aol.com
2) Journey into the Now Frontier!!! TONIGHT!
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@sage-enterprises.com>
3) Real Audio/Chick Corea
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
4) YTSEJAM digest 2613
by <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
5) Re: Journey into the Now Frontier!!! TONIGHT!
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
6) Re: Real Audio/Chick Corea
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
7) so there! where?
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
8) Fates Warning for start!!!
by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
9) Shawarma
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
10) and the winner is...
by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
11) Re: Major DTC!! DTC!! Guitar enlightenment for me ;)~
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) The Big 2 Year Anniversary
by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
13) Paradise Lost/Savatage/New Dream Theater??
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
14) Guitar TOnes, Rocktron Voodu Valve
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2613
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
16) Juke Bocks
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
17) WDADU transcriptions
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <geoimage@opus.com.br>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2612
by Gungha@aol.com
19) Re: Real Audio/Chick Corea
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
20) space needle
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
21) boots
by Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2612
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
23) Re: The Big 2 Year Anniversary
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:55:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: October777@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2611
Message-ID: <970605165519_944880620@emout04.mail.aol.com>
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:26:03 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@sage-enterprises.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Journey into the Now Frontier!!! TONIGHT!
Message-ID: <E1D9F2570E6FD0119CE800A024CC3C710257F6@BUDWEISER>
Fellow Jammers,
I want to remind all of you Queensryche fans out there that there
will be a LIVE broadcast tonight at 9:30 EST (6:30 PST). You
don't know what radio station it's on? Check out http://www.scream.org/
for the listing of stations carrying the concert. Some stations may
record the concert and play it at some other date.
Anyways, I hope someone can get a good copy of this on tape or
DAT. I'll be trying my best to get a high quality recording of the
concert, but I don't know how my receiver is holding up these days.
If I get a good copy of it, I will definitely put it on CDR media. If I
don't
could someone who records it notify me so we can work some deal out?
This concert has tape trading (or CD trading) all over it!
'Ryche on!
Bogie
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 17:23:33 -0700
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Real Audio/Chick Corea
Message-ID: <33975885.5C90@dreamt.org>
Does anyone know of a website that has entire albums in RA format?
Also, I'm into jazz like Bela Fleck. Would someone recommend a Chick
Corea album that I would like?
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 97 5:18:05 GMT+8
From: <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2613
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 18:06:52 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Journey into the Now Frontier!!! TONIGHT!
Message-ID: <19970605.151045.12342.5.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Nick Bogovich
<bogie@sage-enterprises.com> writes:
>Fellow Jammers,
>
>I want to remind all of you Queensryche fans out there that there
>will be a LIVE broadcast tonight at 9:30 EST (6:30 PST). You
>don't know what radio station it's on? Check out
>http://www.scream.org/
>for the listing of stations carrying the concert. Some stations may
>record the concert and play it at some other date.
I think ksjo in San Jose isn't playing it until sunday night at 10, but I
will be taping it and I'm always up for trading.
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 19:06:38 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Real Audio/Chick Corea
Message-ID: <3397467E.665A@caribe.net>
Brian wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a website that has entire albums in RA format?
>
> Also, I'm into jazz like Bela Fleck. Would someone recommend a Chick
> Corea album that I would like?
>
Ive never heard bela fleck..but I can recomend Chick Corea's electric
bands "Inside Out" album.. its awesome
>
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 19:31:54 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: so there! where?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970605193151.0068d658@ici.net>
>I thought it was quite interesting and humerous
>to post such an uneducated and fun post, I thought I would share. In
>the future Steve, take humor for what it's worth, don't send me a letter
>complaining about it.
I'd just like to say that I skipped your original post so I have no idea
whether it was funny or not. Steve seemed to think it wasn't, but he had
the foresight to contact you by e-mail to tell you so, and not to besmirch
you in public. You respond by slamming him back on the list. That is
uncalled for - there was no reason for you to respond to a private message
in a public forum.
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> No discs in the slot, only a
>plastic card with something in magic marker scribbled on it :)
>
>Now the GREAT news:
>
>The scribblings said NEW RELEASE ARRIVING IN JULY!!!!!!!!
>
>Release of what, though? :)
I'd just be happy I found a store that acknowledges the existance of DT...
Tell me, did they also spell the band's name right on the plastic insert
card? That would truly be moe that I could hope to expect. :)
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: "Working Man" - A Rush Tribute
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 01:39:38 +0200
From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
To: "No religion, just music and DT" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Fates Warning for start!!!
Message-ID: <33974E3A.B73D6568@uni-mb.si>
Which FW cd is he best to start with? Perfect Symmetry, Parallels,
Chasing time, Inside out or No Exit&Awaken the guardian?
If someone can answer me, please do!
-- Sebastjan Videc aka StDeVil on IRC Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si http://tferi4.uni-mb.si/~videc<<- And from an Ivory tower hears her call Let the light surround you!!! ->> Kevin Moore
<<- Oh my God, it's full of stars ->> 2001 - A space Oddysey
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:52:04 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shawarma Message-ID: <199706052352.QAA16590@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Alanis x Ray Alder????? >Message-ID: <199706051600.MAA20002@brickbat8.mindspring.com> > > >Lars Hellsten, in a very unhappy quote, wrote: >>That's funny. Her songs certainly are a hell of a lot more catchy than >>Dream Theater's, so obviously she has a better sense of melody than James, >>right? One thing that's for certain is that she has a HELL of a lot better >>sense of melody than, say, Ray Alder of Fates Warning. > >I never really cared for your posts, dude, now I'm just going to ignore them >completely. Do us all a favor and stop posting crap. This is the most stupid >thing I've read since that guy saying Lars Ulrich is technically better than >Neil Peart.
I don't actually think the quote is "unhappy." You may be "unhappy" with the quote, but the adjective doesn't look like it belongs where you've put it. In any event, Lars and I are agreeing somewhat here. I DO think her songs are catchy, memorable, and hummable. I think she'd struggle coming up with a meaningful melody line on top of musical passages that shift between 9/8 and 7/4. But that isn't where her appeal is.
In any event, what Lars has said is certainly tenable and not, at all, "stupid," whether or not you agree. I certainly WOULDN'T say it's crap. I like Dream Theater and Fates Warning more than Alanis Morrissette, Rush more than Metallica, but, after that point, I think we diverge. And I don't think of myself as an idiot....
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: Critical Mass (Disc 1) 2. Rush: Critical Mass (Disc 2) 3. Altura: Mercy 4. Queensryche: Hear in the Now Frontier 5. Jamiroquai: Traveling Without Moving
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 19:12:53 -0500 From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: and the winner is... Message-ID: <19970606001252992.AAA93@bforst.busprod.com>
no one?... none? nowon? noone?
I was reading through the lyrics for Awake (yes, again) and I have a nominee for "THE MOST CONFUSING LYRIC" on a dt album:
"The child will crawl to find you" wtf?
For the life of me I can't figure out what that could mean. I mean I can make some wild guesses but nothing I would write down in final jeopardy! I wasn't on here when AWAKE was released (who was?) so I missed any discussions about any songs/meanings..
anyways, on another channel..shhhhht..
I was at the used music shop, well its actually a bookstore.. go figure, and I saw a tape for Fates Warning (inside out)for about two bucks used. I already have it on cd but the point is that don't forget to peruse through the tapes sometimes. I mean if your just looking to check something out a $2.00 tape may be all you need. I happened to find "Toy Matinee" the other day for a buck, hey, it was worth it! The tape section also has LOTS of old 70's/80's stuff... and tapes are boy poor's car cruising music! >>Systems Analyst, SWPS Weapon >>Fratricide Data Management Team
???? I guess someones gotta do it.
bruce bforst@busprod.com
>click<
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:38:06 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Major DTC!! DTC!! Guitar enlightenment for me ;)~ Message-ID: <199706060038.RAA20697@odin.ax.com>
Hey, > I stumbled upon an old issue of Guitar World earlier tonight as I was > cleaning out an old box. It's from November '94 and it's got Prince on the > cover. Anyways, on the inside is a great interview with John Petrucci and > John Myung, and Petrucci's guitar tech at the time explains the main sounds > used on "Awake". There's a diagram of all the stuff he uses, and this > guitar tech also decided to let us in on Petrucci's actual EQ settings and > such on the Mesa/Boogie TriAxis for his three basic tones that all of his > tones are based off of. Here is exactly what's written:
THANKS MUCH! i've been looking for these settings for a long time now. The ones I've been using were from an old guitar mag that just shows a couple of stomp boxes and dial settings. Nothing specific and it sounded close, but not quite right. I'm gonna be tweakin with my RP-12 tonight! :)
> Now, there's also a MAJOR guitar tone breakthrough in this article, for > me. Petrucci's tech says that on the rhythm crunch sounds, Petrucci uses a > delay at 25 milliseconds. I thought about this and decided to give it a
I've been using the delay for awhile now and it DOES make all the difference. Much better than the preprogrammed crap in these little toys we got. :)
> Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
Vai rulz! Take it easy! KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 21:04:03 -0400 From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Big 2 Year Anniversary Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970605210403.0069549c@mail.ee.net>
of the date that Al B. promised Pat D. his tapes is tomorrow.
Saw this scanning thru my old jams looking for something.
This pointless post brought to you by:
Joe jkruger@ee.net
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 97 21:17 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Paradise Lost/Savatage/New Dream Theater?? Message-ID: <m0wZneq-000B6vC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
If your looking for great Paradise Lost stuff, by all means check out Draconian Times as was stated but also check out the prior release to that called Icon. And watch for their new album, One Minute due out in July. I have a CD with a track off the new one called Soul Couragious and it is very different but none the less awesome.
The longest Savatage song that I know of is Alone You Breathe and Chance both clocking in at near 8 minutes. Sure not progressive but definitely fucking amazing....
As for DT releasing their album by July, I heard so many different stories about the new album which is why I barely get involved in the "when-the-hell-is-DT-releasing-their-album" threads. Hope it does come in July though.............
Don
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Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 19:44:21 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Guitar TOnes, Rocktron Voodu Valve Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970605140612.0069a63c@onfire.net>
HEy guys..
My brother just bought a Rocktron voodu valve and would like me to find out if anyone has any good presets (esp. JP tones, etc.) that they have made. If there are any Voodo valve users here who have some nice settings we would appreciate it if you could e-mail me the configurations of a few. Thanks alot.
Mark ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Fight For Freedom / Fight Authority / Fight For Anything / My Country Tis of Me. / / MEGADETH /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Anarchy is Coming to Town
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 97 22:03:34 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2613 Message-ID: <33977e052991634@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> Lars Hellsten, in a very unhappy quote, wrote: > >That's funny. Her songs certainly are a hell of a lot more catchy than > >Dream Theater's, so obviously she has a better sense of melody than Jame= > s, > >right? One thing that's for certain is that she has a HELL of a lot bet= > ter > >sense of melody than, say, Ray Alder of Fates Warning.
I would have to agree. Listening to Alder is painful.
-Brian
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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 23:26:15 -0500 From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Juke Bocks Message-ID: <v01530500afbd41932039@[207.79.6.172]>
>>If you can afford it, donate a copy of >>your favorite DT CD to a local bar for the jukebox...it's >>great exposure for the band...when you play the CD people will >>come up to you and say "Hey, who's this?!!" and the rest is history :)
This would be cool to do with ACOS. Twenty three minutes of awsome stuff for 50 CENTS!
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 00:58:51 -0300 From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <geoimage@opus.com.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDADU transcriptions Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606005851.0068edac@mail.opus.com.br>
>>One more thing: Does anyone have knowledge of transcriptions of "The >Killing Hand"? >>For all I know there's no notebook for the WDADU record. >> > That's right, there isn't one, unfortunatly. However, I have transcribed >this song, along with working on transcribing the whole disc. Great song to >jam to, btw.
Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums (except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music.
They have complete scores for guitar, bass, vocals, drums and keys. Something I don't know is about the availability of those books, since I bought the I&W and Awake books about two years ago (any japanese jammer knows about this?). Don't expect any super-accurate transcriptions, good cover art or LtL ( noo!:) ), though.
Cassiano Barbosa geoimage@opus.com.br
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:08:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Gungha@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2612 Message-ID: <970606000833_1890281185@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Vince wrote on the Tones Of Petrucci from Awake...
Vince, I have that issue of GW and I have been struggling with acheiving the same crunch tone that it lists in that article. I have a TriAxis, by the way... the greatest amp in the world... , and on lead I red... at 6 and 4.5 for the gains, it just doesn't add up. I tend to want my own sound anyway, which is fortunate for me, i guess, but, what preamp are you running and what do you have it set at? I tried the delay thing and you are right, that does add tons of balls to the tone. well, just me rambling here... bye.
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:57:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Real Audio/Chick Corea Message-ID: <199706060457.AAA05263@marconi.concentric.net>
Brian "DreamNDay" Whateveryourfuckinglastnameis asked:
>Also, I'm into jazz like Bela Fleck. Would someone recommend a Chick >Corea album that I would like?
I don't know if I can connect this to your taste for Bela Fleck, but my pick is and always has been Chick Corea Electric Band "Eye of the Beholder". This album kicks truckloads of ass. TRUCKLOADS. :) My second choice is "Inside Out", as mentioned by Mr. Alfaro. If you or anyone else picks either of these up, by all means please tell me if you like it or not. I'd love to hear some opinions on them. Thanks.
Rick Audet Dolby Labs
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:19:43 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: space needle Message-ID: <19970606043545.AAA4890@ernst-d>
Anybody heard of a band called Space Needle? I've been lookinig for these guys for awhile, and I just found a webpage w/ samples, and I was slightly dissapointed? But maybe I'm getting the wrong impression... any info or reviews of their music would be appreciated
thanks later Ernie
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 97 1:39:42 EDT From: Christopher Bellardine <chris154@clam.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: boots Message-ID: <CMM-RU.1.5.865575582.chris154@clam.rutgers.edu>
I've been reading about a song called Eve, and I really want to hear it. Does anyone out there have some Fix For 96 stuff or any kind of other boots that I could possibly buy. It would be greatly apprectiated. I need to hear some DT that I haven't heard yet to hold me over. I feel Dt deprived like all the rest of the jammers.
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 00:33:35 -0400 From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2612 Message-ID: <19970606044003.AAA4995@ernst-d>
> I haven't seen either live (except for videos) so If I'm wrong feel free to > correct me. Who knows, maybe Metropolis is nothing but a jam that changes > from night to night... :) >
Not exactly, but do they do pretty cool bluesy jam right smack in the middle... In fact they're jamming a lot in the middle of songs now. LTL, Met., TKH, come to mind. And then, of course there'e the new version of CiaW (I'm starting to get desperete waiting for TDOW)
.sig's suck Ernie
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 02:00:59 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The Big 2 Year Anniversary Message-ID: <19970605.230441.12342.9.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net> writes:
>of the date that Al B. promised Pat D. his tapes is tomorrow. > >Saw this scanning thru my old jams looking for something.
Somehow I don't think "Happy Anniversary" is the correct term here. ;-)
Scott
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