YTSEJAM Digest 2617
Today's Topics:
1) re: G3
by "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
2) Bang!, Vids 'n Bonus CDs 'n other stuff...
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
3) Various Items from a lurker...
by Mark Stahl <Mark.Stahl@sgc.infonet.com>
4) Re: Bang!, Vids 'n Bonus CDs 'n other stuff...
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest
by Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
6) Pull Me Under Lyrics..the end part
by "Jim Munster" <freakboy@ptd.net>
7) FATES WARNING NEWS
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
8) OZ notes
by "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@humnet.ucla.edu>
9) pat-n-al
by Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
10) RUSH Bootleg Compilation Project
by Xanadu0378@aol.com
11) RUSH Bootleg Project... again
by Xanadu0378@aol.com
12) Re: pat-n-al
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
13) MEGADETH NORTH AMERICAN TOUR '97 (fwd)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
14) Re: Pull Me Under Lyrics..the end part
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
15) Re: Shawarma - *No DTC*
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
16) Actually some DTC for a change!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 13:07:53 +0200
From: "Simon Mitternacht" <rel96dim@student2.lu.se>
To: "Ytsejam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: re: G3
Message-ID: <9706071106.AA10118@nomina.lu.se>
Shred said that he had seen G3 in london.
Are they already out on their world tour and does anybody have any
tourdates? (maybe they're already finished and I've missed everything :( )
Simon Mitternacht
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/1233/
May the force be with you...
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 12:31:09 +0200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Bang!, Vids 'n Bonus CDs 'n other stuff...
Message-ID: <01BC7372.10C2D040@Homm.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Jeremy P. Kube said :
> I promise that I will post some DTC in my next post or someone can
> shoot me.
> From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: A couple of things....(NDTC)
BANG ! ;-)
Oh, and I *know* I wrote :
> Mark <back into lurk mode for another month or so>
Screw that :-)
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Rogerio Brito wrote :
> - why not release live videos for each tour concluded?
Because it's too much of a financial risk, I think.
> - why not put release a special edition album with rare tracks
> such as "To Live Forever" and "Eve" and some demos as a bonus CD?
Why not wait until there's enough stuff for a regular bsides album,
just like Marillion did with "B'Sides Themselves"... People already
have a hard time finding the singles... A special edition bonus CD
wouldn't help much. The bsides and demos should be available to all
fans, so I think a regular release would be much better. People who
go out of their way to get a bonus cd, probably already own all the
singles anyway.
> (something like Iron Maiden has done with their "Best of the Beast":
> they have released at least 3 versions of this album: the single one;
> the double without booklet and the double one with the special booklet.
> Dream Theater could do something like this, I think).
Different versions cost more. Bonus cds cost more. Considering all
the crap DT is/was going through with their label, this is probably
not an option.
Btw, all of Marillion's albums are being remastered, right now. And
every single one of them will have bonus tracks and/or a bonus CD !
Bsides, demo's, rare recordings, the works ! The first one will be
"Real to Reel" (mini live-album). This one will feature a US-promo,
called "Brief Encounter", as it's bonus CD. It'll be released next
week, here in Europe :-) Marillion left EMI, a while back, and this
is probably just EMI's way of making some more money off of them...
Not that I care... I'm gonna buy all of those remasters ! :-D
D-Man wrote :
> Because those of us that actually own the Lie and TSM singles
> wouldn't feel so special anymore. :)
That too... But when you buy singles because of bsides, you have to
realize those tracks will (probably) end up on another release some
day.
_____
Lars Hellsten again :
> You're right. I forgot for a second who I was talking to there.
> I've now configured my software to filter out all of Scott's messages.
That's probably something a lot of Jammers already did with you.
_____
Ryan M Vance asked :
> just wondering. does anybody know how many people are on this list?
Way too many... I think somewhere between 1000 and 1500. Maybe some
people should take that into consideration, next time they decide to
post another fine piece of flame-bait or other kinds of bullshit :-)
Mark
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"What is this, some kind of fucking circus ?" - J. LaBrie (Dream Theater)
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Date: 7 Jun 97 12:50 EDT
From: Mark Stahl <Mark.Stahl@sgc.infonet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Various Items from a lurker...
Message-ID: <@x400gw.infonet.com>
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Boy I'm gald i got the LitS boot and Lie single when I did.
Otherwise I'd be a very sad jammer now that they are hard to
find.
Anybody heard the new slaughter album "revolution"? I saw it in
the stare and it's an enhanced CD with a bunch of multimedia stuff
on it. Any reviews would be appreciated.
Also, Anyone looking for the new Fates - A Pleasant Shade of Grey
come to the Best Buy in Fresno, They had about 30 copies!!!!!
-mark
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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 14:17:46 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Bang!, Vids 'n Bonus CDs 'n other stuff...
Message-ID: <19970607.112218.12982.0.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
> Why not wait until there's enough stuff for a regular bsides album,
> just like Marillion did with "B'Sides Themselves"... People already
> have a hard time finding the singles... A special edition bonus CD
> wouldn't help much. The bsides and demos should be available to all
> fans, so I think a regular release would be much better. People who
> go out of their way to get a bonus cd, probably already own all the
> singles anyway.
If DT ever does this I hope they don't do like Megadeth and make us buy
all the soundtracks, etc and *then* release the Hidden treasures CD so
we have to buy the freaking thing all over again. :)
4 days till new 'Deth! Woohoo!!!!!
>> (something like Iron Maiden has done with their "Best of the Beast":
> Different versions cost more. Bonus cds cost more. Considering all
> the crap DT is/was going through with their label, this is probably
> not an option.
Plus DT just hasn't been arouund long enough to justify it. Iron Maiden
released their first LP in 1980 and have a butt-load of albums and 12"
and stuff. DT has only three cds and one ep.
> Btw, all of Marillion's albums are being remastered, right now. And
> every single one of them will have bonus tracks and/or a bonus CD !
> Bsides, demo's, rare recordings, the works !
Well, finally I didn't waste my money on CD's just to turn around and
have
to buy them all over again. Let's hope we get them here in the country I
live in. ;-)
Cheers!
Scott
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 14:29:53 -0500 (CDT)
From: Michael Lafser <mlafser@mail.win.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970607142842.377A-100000@winc0>
this goes out to Dale and ozzfest
i will be at ozzfest at riverport tuesday
email me at mlafser@win.mail.org for anything else
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 15:56:52 -0400
From: "Jim Munster" <freakboy@ptd.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Pull Me Under Lyrics..the end part
Message-ID: <199706072001.NAA14413@odin.ax.com>
What the hell is LaBrie saying in that half-backwards, fully
chorused/phased outro at the end of Pull Me Under. Is it Latin? If yes,
what is the translation?
thx,
freakboy
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 16:06:43 -0400
From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FATES WARNING NEWS
Message-ID: <199706072007.NAA14466@odin.ax.com>
HARDRADIO has the remix of "PART 2" from APSOG
and the CHAT with Ray.
just go to "MUSIC" to hear the whole song, and get ready to be
surprised.
I'm afraid to turn on the radio and hear this:
"and the no.1 song on the Dance charts is...." ?
www.hardradio.com
Elvis Batur
cyclone@securenet.net
elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 14:01:39 PST
From: "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@humnet.ucla.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: OZ notes
Message-ID: <96BB261DFB@113hum2.humnet.ucla.edu>
Jammers interested in Oz thing:
I've found it amusing how quickly the OZ/Pink Floyd phenomenon has
spread across the country. One of the professors I work with here at
UCLA (Jim Westby) has been presenting it in his classes for close to
two years now and was talking to MTV about presenting it in some
fashion (copyrights would be excruciating in this instance) when they
(MTV) broke it with some DJ in Boston. We (Jim and I) think the
Boston guy heard about it from the Mark & Brian radio show here in LA
(it's a nationally syndicated show) who, incidently, were told about
it by a student in one of Jim's classes.
Ontology aside, it's been very interesting to watch the phenomenon
grow from a rate of 200 students each quarter to the millions who
watched MTV last week, and to watch an aspect of popular culture
suddenly become "cool" while sitting on the sidelines. In fact, Jim
presented it to his class one last time last week after the story
broke because, now that the Darkside of Oz is circulating in
mainstream culture, it will (as these things inevitably do) lose its
"coolness," and he wanted to make sure somebody remembered seeing it
when it was still "cool."
Incidental notes: There is NO substantiation to the notion that Pink
Floyd tried to compose an alternate soundtrack to Oz, no matter how
damn cool the sync is at times. Also, the sync had to have been
discovered since the CD has been around because the phenomenon does
not work with the LP of Darkside.
Finally, Jim was a little leery of breaking the phenomenon himself
because of its important cult status in the Pink Floyd community.
The whole thing was brought to his attention by a student at
Dartmouth who was fully aware that she was breaking something big to
an academic, and Jim wanted to maintain a high level of respect for
its status. My feeling is that, even though millions of people will
now be cramming video stores for Oz videos, the basic integrity of
the phenomenon will survive intact and will remain important to Floyd
fans. In any event, it's an incredible thing to see, and I urge you
all to check it out while it's still "cool."
Glenn
p.s. To the jammer wanting specific syncronizations for a friend,
just put it on and watch. It's better than knowing exactly what's
going to happen.
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 17:11:02 -0500
From: Jazzmin Belle Sommers <jazzmin@ou.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: pat-n-al
Message-ID: <3399dc765e6d002@hermes.services.ou.edu>
jeepers, pat, after 3 1/2 years of listening to you whine one would think
that you're both pat AND al, just some weirdo with a schizo urge* to compete
publicly with yourself.
I mean, if I could get as much mileage from -- what was it, $20? a tape
trade? doesn't matter -- as you have from your self-proclaimed sour deal,
I'd be the ranking republican in the national congress right now.
Do give it up. Please.
Peace and kindness and HOT HOT HOT sex, ~jazzmin
*no offense intended here for anyone who actually HAS this disorder. Let's
not start another one of THOSE threads.
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 19:53:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Xanadu0378@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RUSH Bootleg Compilation Project
Message-ID: <970607195331_287591721@emout03.mail.aol.com>
ATTENTION RUSH FANS!
Now that I got your attention, I wanted to inform you all of a Rush bootleg
compilation tape I'm currently re-offering called "Universal Panacea". Sorry
I'm crossing over to theYTSEJAM, but the Rush mailing list is sensored which
means my bootleg offer could not be posted. This is the next best place I
figured I could
find some loyal Rush fans. Here goes...
I don't know of any of you remember this same tape project I offered about a
year ago, but I'm reissuing them. This is because I unfortunately had to
go away to college before the 100 copies could be sold. I roughly sold 75
of them in the short time they were offered (about a month).
Anyhow, what I did was create a collection of rare and underplayed music
by Rush dating back to 1974 and containing at least one song from every
studio album. I've included such goodies as early unreleased singles, a
live cover, and pre-versions of songs before they were completed for use
on the albums. The rest are songs that were only included in one or two
setlists and then dropped forever. It's a true collectors item, as I am
only making 100 copies and handnumbering each of them. Just to make
myself clear, it is a double-cassette, not a CD! Although this may be a
bummer for some of you, it allowed me to include exactly 179 minutes of
material. You really get your moneys worth. The cost is $10 which will
cover the two Maxell XL-II tapes, computer generated tape jackets, shipping,
and packaging expenses. Obviously, my goal is not to make much money off
this. It's more a hobby than anything.
If you want detailed info concerning the tracks, dates, ordering info, etc,
please visit my web page:
http://members.aol.com/Xanadu0378/
Thank you. Greg Slang, <xanadu0378@aol.com>
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 20:07:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Xanadu0378@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RUSH Bootleg Project... again
Message-ID: <970607200545_-562206726@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Sorry everyone,
I think I might have goofed on the web page address to get more info on this
project.
Apparently AOL doesn't default to "index.html" as the web page. You probably
will have to use this address:
http://members.aol.com/Xanadu0378/index.html
Sorry if you couldn't access the page without "index.html".
-- Greg Slang, <xanadu0378@aol.com> who is not too happy with AOL at this
point.
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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 22:53:02 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: pat-n-al
Message-ID: <19970607.195731.12982.6.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Sat, 7 Jun 1997 15:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Jizzmin exclaimed:
>jeepers, pat, after 3 1/2 years of listening to you whine one would
>think that you're both pat AND al, just some weirdo with a schizo urge*
to
>compete publicly with yourself.
Why are you so upset about this? Pat is doing a service by letting the
newbies know that this Half-Naked guy is a thief. It's not whining, it's
*fact*
>I mean, if I could get as much mileage from -- what was it, $20?
If the $20 is no big deal why not just send him the money? He was
ripped off and he has every right to *whine* about it, as you so
elegantly
put it.
>Do give it up. Please.
Keep on keepin' on Pat!
> Peace and kindness and HOT HOT HOT sex, ~jazzmin
Nah, never mind! :)
>*no offense intended here for anyone who actually HAS this disorder.
>Let's not start another one of THOSE threads.
If you don't want a thread started then you should have sent it to him
*privately* instead of to the list, dont'cha think?
Scott Cook
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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 22:53:03 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MEGADETH NORTH AMERICAN TOUR '97 (fwd)
Message-ID: <19970607.195731.12982.8.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 00:12:00 -0300 (EST)
From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Pull Me Under Lyrics..the end part
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970608000851.5312A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Sat, 7 Jun 1997, Jim Munster wrote:
> What the hell is LaBrie saying in that half-backwards, fully
> chorused/phased outro at the end of Pull Me Under. Is it Latin? If yes,
> what is the translation?
Well, I think that you are refering to a verse of Shakespeare's
Hamlet and it is something like this: "Oh, this that too flesh would melt"
(I'm not sure of the exact words). I think that this would be in some kind
of a FAQ. You may notice also that the song stops abruptly. I think that
this has some connection with Shakespeare's texts, but I don't know.
Hope this helps, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=------------------------------
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 04:37:25 +0000 From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Shawarma - *No DTC* Message-ID: <19970608043723.AAA8812@LOCALNAME>
>Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 16:52:04 -0700 >From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Shawarma How I miss this food. I think the reason it is not that good in the U.S. is because the flies are not hovering around the rotating rack of lamb fat. :-) Do not worry if this post makes no sense.
Isaac
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 22:37:52 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Actually some DTC for a change! Message-ID: <199706080438.VAA18851@odin.ax.com>
> > What the hell is LaBrie saying in that half-backwards, fully > > chorused/phased outro at the end of Pull Me Under. Is it Latin? If yes, > > what is the translation? > > Well, I think that you are refering to a verse of Shakespeare's > Hamlet and it is something like this: "Oh, this that too flesh would melt" > (I'm not sure of the exact words). I think that this would be in some kind > of a FAQ. You may notice also that the song stops abruptly. I think that > this has some connection with Shakespeare's texts, but I don't know.
That's pretty close. Actually it's, "Oh, that this too... Solid flesh... Would Melt *click*"
It's throws you off when you don't catch the solid...
BTW, I think it's in the FAQ. (Cheers to D-Man!) KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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