YTSEJAM Digest 2616
Today's Topics:
1) OZ
by "Donald Dintaman" <Donald.Dintaman@nmb.norwest.com>
2) Re: WDADU transcriptions
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
3) ACoS transcription
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
4) Wanted: QR Radio show last night
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@sage-enterprises.com>
5) Re: Gentle Giant/Rippingtons
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
6) Rush Sunday
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
7) Re: DT transcriptions
by "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <geoimage@opus.com.br>
8) Re: DT Transcriptions
by James Mohr <jpmohr@primenet.com>
9) Multi-Purpose Post (First Fates, Cool CD's)
by MTeiper@aol.com
10) Pink Floyd and Oz (NDTC)
by "Somebody" <jballa@worldnet.att.net>
11) Edward Polzin
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
12) Freakin buggin me.
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
13) King's X setlist and new update
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
14) irock
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
15) A spoonful of DT helps the wait go down
by eckie@asu.edu
16) Flotsam and Thrashsam, Megathrash, G3
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
17) SYMPHONY-X and FATES CLIPS
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
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Date: 06 Jun 97 10:52:07 -0500
From: "Donald Dintaman" <Donald.Dintaman@nmb.norwest.com>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> (Return requested) (Receipt notification requested)
Subject: OZ
Would someone be kind enough to email me a list all the similarities
between OZ and Dark Side...? I was trying to tell a guy at work about
this but couldn't remember the exact instances.
Thanks,
Don
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 01:15:48 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: WDADU transcriptions
Message-ID: <199706061615.BAA08665@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Well,well,well. DT songbooks are available in Japan. (I&W,L@tM,Awake,ACOS)
Thosse books are published from Shinko-Music.
Thanks.
At 21:02 1997.6.5 -0700, Cassiano P. Barbosa wrote:
>>>One more thing: Does anyone have knowledge of transcriptions of "The
>>Killing Hand"?
>>>For all I know there's no notebook for the WDADU record.
>>>
>> That's right, there isn't one, unfortunatly. However, I have
>>transcribed
>>this song, along with working on transcribing the whole disc. Great song to
>>jam to, btw.
>
>Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums
>(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time
>ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music.
>
>They have complete scores for guitar, bass, vocals, drums and keys.
>Something I don't know is about the availability of those books, since I
>bought the I&W and Awake books about two years ago (any japanese jammer
>knows about this?). Don't expect any super-accurate transcriptions, good
>cover art or LtL ( noo!:) ), though.
>
>
>Cassiano Barbosa
>geoimage@opus.com.br
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-Keiji Nishihara
Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY
KYOTO JAPAN
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 12:09:44 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ACoS transcription
Message-ID: <33984458.1AA0@auburn.net>
> >Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums
> >(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time
> >ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music.
> >
> BTW...ACOS has not been published, although I have almost finished
doing it.
Actually, Shinko did publish the full score transcription to the ACoS
album, but they left out the big medley, for copyright reasons, I
suppose, but if that was the case, why did they include the first three
live tracks? Who knows?
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:40:14 -0400
From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@sage-enterprises.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Wanted: QR Radio show last night
Message-ID: <E1D9F2570E6FD0119CE800A024CC3C710257F7@BUDWEISER>
I hate radio stations.
I'm out here in Boston, and I found out that the radio station that will
be
carrying the broadcast will not be airing it until next week. I leave
Boston
for Chicago next week. Chicago, I believe, has already aired the
concert.
Talk about timing.
On top of that, I figured that I could at least get a listen to the show
via
KISW's RealAudio broadcast. Turns out that their set up was messed
up and there was this really annoying buzz which made the broadcast
unlistenable.
So, I would like to get a copy of this show. I know Scott Cook said
that
he would be up for trading if he got the show on tape, so if Scott or
any
other Jammers out there happened to get an excellent recording of the
concert, I would be interested in trading for or buying a copy of the
concert so that I may be able to put it on CDR media for me and others
who may be interested in it. Please notify me at bogie@mit.edu
(bogie@sage-enterprises.com is my work address) and hopefully we
can set something up. Thanks.
Ryche on,
Nick
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 17:43:03 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Gentle Giant/Rippingtons
Message-ID: <33984C27.4B1@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: WhiteWolf
> when was "Free Hand" released? (Year will suffice).
Uh, 1975 :)
> From: Rick Audet
> I wouldn't consider it to be fusion, though. It is contemporary Jazz
> with a lot of kick.
They can kick me all day :)
I always though the stuff like the title track and Nature of the Beast
were considered crossover. They could call it RAP, and I'd still listen
to it :)
> A couple of other great Rippingtons releases are "Weekend in Monaco", > and "Welcome to the St. James' Club".
Thanks for the recommendations, Rick!! Save me some time and money
figuring out which ones to pick up. I just took a shot not knowing which
one to pick up, but I've heard 'em on the radio for a few years and they
always grooved. I'll be getting those extremely soon :)
Have a great weekend everyone!
Jon
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| Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 |
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I believe that what I'm feeling
Changes how the world appears - Rush
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 14:28:53 +0000
From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush Sunday
Message-ID: <199706061931.OAA06957@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, if anyone's gonna be at the Rush show at Riverport Amphitheater
this Sunday, let me know and maybe we can hook up. I'll likely be
wearing my jam shirt, so I should be easily noticeable.
Same goes for Ozz Fest next Tuesday at Riverport (though I probably
won't be wearing my jam shirt there).
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 16:26:36 -0300
From: "Cassiano P. Barbosa" <geoimage@opus.com.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT transcriptions
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606162636.0069eb70@mail.opus.com.br>
>>Actually, from what I know, there are transcription books for all DT albums
>>(except for ACoS, which I don't know about) that were published some time
>>ago in Japan by some company called Shinko Music.
>>
>>They have complete scores for guitar, bass, vocals, drums and keys.
Something I don't know is about the availability of those books, since I
bought the I&W and Awake books about two years ago (any japanese jammer
knows about this?). Don't expect any super-accurate transcriptions, good
cover art or LtL ( noo!:) ), though.
> Warner Bros. still has I&W and Awake, the only 2 they've done, in print,
>although
>somewhat difficult to get. Any reputable sheet music dealer should be able
>to get both of these.
>I ordered these together and waited 8 months for them. Apparantly, they ran
>out of the last batch
>and were printing another run. If this Japanese company printed ANYTHING by
>DT, it's long
>out-of-print and definitely not available domestically. Both are quite
>accurate, save for the
>occasional misspelled vocals. (IE...PMU - Every day sends future to post).
>I'll leave others later.
>BTW...ACOS has not been published, although I have almost finished doing it.
I have the I&W and Awake books from both Shinko Music and Warner Bros., so
I must say that the WB ones are DEFINITELY more accurate.
As for these japanese books being out-of-print, that's why I mentioned
japanese jammers because, like I said, I bought them for like 2 years ago.
And as for they being available domestically (in U.S.) I really don't know,
because I live in Brazil and ordered them from a japanese import book store
(I waited 6 months to get it).
Anyone looking for drum transcriptions should check those out (in import
book stores, maybe?), as they're the only books that really transcribed
whole band scores for the 3 LPs (I&W, Awake and WDADU). And maybe for ACOS,
who knows?
Later!
Cassiano
geoimage@opus.com.br
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 16:02:55 -0500
From: James Mohr <jpmohr@primenet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: DT Transcriptions
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606160255.0068c7f8@pop.primenet.com>
>Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 02:22:40 -0600
>From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Re: DT Transcriptions
>Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970606022240.0068a924@autobahn.mb.ca>
> Warner Bros. still has I&W and Awake, the only 2 they've done, in print,
>although
>somewhat difficult to get. Any reputable sheet music dealer should be able
>to get both of these.
I tried to special order I&W about a year ago, but it was out of print. I
did get one, from a person with connections. Awake was no problem to find.
--James
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:45:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Multi-Purpose Post (First Fates, Cool CD's)
Message-ID: <970606174544_-1629386663@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Hello Jammer-dudez and dudettes -
This is in response to the Jammer asking about where to start with Fates
Warning. Several jams back, I posted that one should start with "Chasing
Time", IMO. Back then, I posted a big long explanation as to why. I can't
remember (or feel like retyping) everything I said, so I'll try to summarize.
Fates has changed their style fairly radically over the years, and "Chasing
Time" is a good compilation of old and new stuff. It's also not just a
"Greatest Hits" either; it's got their biggest "hits" along with a good
collection of "sleeper" favorites. Also, I think that the disc does a decent
job of capturing the general sound of a particular album or era. In
conclusion, ALL CD's are required listening and are MUST-OWN's, but starting
with "Chasing Time" can help you prioritize. 'Kay?
Now then, I've head the opportunity to get some great new CD's over the past
few days. Included in this is the new Flotsam ("High") and the new Bruce
Dickinson ("Accident Of Birth"). A while ago, someone hit the nail on the
head with a Flots review saying that it was heavier than their more recent
material, but although it's very good, not as good as "Cuatro" or "Drift".
As for Mr. Dickinson... HOLY SHIT!!!! This album knocked me on my arse! I
liked "Balls To Picasso" quite a bit, and didn't really care for "Skunkworks"
that much, so when I heard that this was his "BEST STUFF SINCE MAIDEN", I
took it with a grain of salt. But, after one listen, I must agree with this
assessment. Adrian Smith backs him up with some killer guitar playing on
this one. And, surprisingly, it's HEAVY as shit! I love this one - highly
recommended!!!
'Nuff for now, kidz. Laterz.... Matt T.
Now Playing: B. Dickinson "Accident Of Birth" (Of course!)
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:41:38 -0500
From: "Somebody" <jballa@worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pink Floyd and Oz (NDTC)
Message-ID: <19970606223904.AAA172@jballa>
About a week ago, there was a message posted about the correlation
between the Dark Side of the Moon and The Wizard of Oz. The Daily
News article that I read about this can be found at:
http://www.chelmsford.com/home/aharm/dailynews.html
I find it interesting, but I would think by now it would be verified.
Anyway, enjoy if you are interested.
"If you want to live life on your own terms,
you've got to be willing to crash and burn."
mailto:jballa@worldnet.att.net
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:39:56 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Edward Polzin
Message-ID: <19970606233955.AAA27407@LOCALNAME>
Ed,
You'll have your DT video soon. Sorry for the added wait, but I sent it to
your college address by accident. I just got the package back today and I'm
going tomorrow morning to mail it again to the return address on your package.
Isaac
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 19:07:17 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Freakin buggin me.
Message-ID: <199706070107.SAA06542@odin.ax.com>
Hey, folx, you up for a challenge? I've got some visual music for
ya.
This is a song I hear on the contemporary station quite a bit and I
really dig the song. It pretty "groovy." Anyway, I know not the
number to call the DJ and ask the name of the song and I wanna find
out who it is. The song I'd say was written in the late 70s/early
80s and starts out with a sax part that goes something like...
(^=hammer on) (/ = Bend) (\ = release)
This is from memory so it may not be precise...
G G
F# F# F# F#
E D E^F#^E E D
B B A/B \A/B\A\B \A/B G#
And then it repeats. I never catch the words, but it's a groovy
song. I remember a part that goes something like "Sad song.... Keep
holding on..." Someone at work said they thought it was a movie
theme and was "(Something) Street)" If someone let me know who the
artist and the name of the song gets a Twinkie.
This has been buging me for days, since this is the first song I EVER
remember hearing and it brings back kewl memories. :)
Thanks! I know someone knows this!
KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets
ibanez@cyberghighway.net
"Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder,
Bork, Bork Bork!"
---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 21:30:00 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: King's X setlist and new update
Message-ID: <199706070430.VAA13986@goodnet.com>
A new update is up on the page at http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik.
Virtual Songs ships, as of tomorrow (basically). The liners are
in. I didn't get my orders of jewelcases yet, so I went down to Costco and
bought some to tide me over and at least get shit started. They weren't
quite as cheap, but hey... I wanna see reviews _now_. :)
King's X "Acoustic Spirits" master preparation is underway. Due to
the idiosyncrasies of hard drive space, KX will ship in roughly mid July,
followed by E2E in early August. While preparing the master I found that I
have a lot more than this to offer... see the update for details. Here's
the likely preliminary tracklisting.
(acoustic soundboard performance)
Shot of Love
It's Love
Summerland
Everybody Knows a Little Bit of Something
Goldilox
Over My Head
The Difference (In The Garden of St. Anne's on the Hill)
I'll Never Get Tired Of You (Mike & Melissa's wedding song!)
We Are Finding Who We Are
The Difference (alternate/extra acoustic performance)
[Ear Candy bonus tracks, to be determined]
This single CD is already open to orders. Domestic orders just
send the order along, international customers please feel free to reserve
first and then send the order along. Print run will be 100 to 150 discs.
This one's gonna be _good_. :)
Oh yes, all the DT collectibles I had for sale are GONE. Gondo.
History. That was fast. Uncovered sold in three minutes. That's gotta be
some kind of record. The instructional videos are already en route to
their future owners, and the others are to follow shortly.
More PT and DW discs go out this weekend.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:16:46 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: irock
Message-ID: <19970607041437.AAA6677@ernst-d>
So, after a little web-browsing, I find this station called irock which
supposedly broadcasts intrsumental and prog rock thru the web.... but when
I get there, there's somethings written in what seems to be latin, and a
line saying "Danger-web-wacking in progress. a lot of bugs"
huh?
SPOON!
Ernie
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:13:43 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A spoonful of DT helps the wait go down
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970606225145.19707A-100000@general4.asu.edu>
Heya all...
Heh...I get to see Megadeth...TWICE this week... >:D
Sorry, had to rub that in. ANYWAYS,
I was perusin' through the mags at my local grocery store, and the new
(?) August edition of Metal Edge was about the only thing with the word
"Metal" written on it. BTW, why do they release an August issue two
months before August? Back to story: It had Marilyn Manson on the
cover, and I'm really not the biggest fan of his music or for anything he
stands for (except that free speech thingy), but I flipped through it
anyh00. The first page I happened to open the mag up to had photos of a
Metallica party with those guys from Anthrax and COC and this skanky
belly-dancer. It was nice to see the Anthrax crew in some new photos, I
thought some music exec might have sent a covert op. team to assassinate
another thrash band that hit it big in the 80s....but the kicker was near
the end of the mag.
Here it is...
..a BLACK AND WHITE PHOTO OF MIKE PORTNOY with Eric Singer. He, being
Portnoy, had a quoted answer to the question, "What's the best and worst
movie you ever saw?"
"Best: Pink Floyd The Wall, This is Spinal Tap, and anything by Woody
Allen, Stanley Kubrick, David Lynch, Martin Scorsese and Alfred
Hitchcock.
Worst: seven out of 10 Hollywood films. I'm a big indie film fan."
And for you 'Thrax fans out there, the new album's entitled Volume 8 and
due out October. Of course, you prolly already knew that tidbit. ;)
For some odd reason, Silverchair's name kept popping up around this mag?
WTF? They're about as metal as Sherinian is gay!!! They DON'T belong in
a metal mag! But that's just my opinion. :) Don't start a "what is
metal to one person..." thread, just don't...PLEASE!
The new Flotsam and Jetsam kicks ass. I bought A Pleasant Shade of Gray
(I'm gonna pay you back as soon as I get my paycheck Vince, don't worry!
I still have to land a job!) and I haven't really given it a thorough
listen to it yet, but it seems like this reallllllly sombre song with
lulled tones, and rare moments of spontinaity and excitement here and
there. I'll listen to the whole thing tonight 'n then slap my
approval/disproval on it. :)
HOly shit! You can tell I don't subscribe to any magazines. On the back
of this Metal Edge is this KICK ASS full page ad for Pearl drums...with
NICK MENZA!!! WOO!!! That's a keeper...
Is there a telnet address for any dt fan servers? I know 'bout the IRC,
but I'm sorta "without provider" at the moment, if ya know what I mean.
(My school only provides email and telnet for free).
'kay, I'm done.
~Eckie
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Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 00:14:57 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Flotsam and Thrashsam, Megathrash, G3
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970606001452.007d46f0@postoffice.syspac.com>
Bought the new Flotsam CD today. WOW!! This sucker rocks so hard. Man,
to me this CD sounds like a cross between Sacred Reich on "Independent",
Metallica's "Master of Puppets", and Pantera's "Cowboy's from Hell". There
are some neat production things like the twin acoustics in the far channels
on one of the earlier tracks, and the heavy sound is very dense. The
funniest part of the whole thing is that the names of the songs on the back
are written in fonts of other metal band logos. ;) For example, "Final
Step" is written in Iron Maiden font, "High-Noon" looks like the Misfits,
"Your Hands" looks like Van Halen, "Hallucinational" is in slayer font,
song 11 is just a symbol of a fork-man running (weird drawing :), but the
one that takes the cake is the font for "Monster". Yup, /MetallicA\ font.
;)~
Overall, this is a great thrasher CD, and it makes me feel proud for the
Phoenix metal scene, which spawned F&J.
Speaking of Phoenix metal, I bought my tickets for the "Vic and the
Rattleheads" show at the Electric Ball(sack)room next Tuesday!! Megadeth
twice in one week. Friedman's gonna be so close I can like hi-5 the dude
while he's playin' ;) Phoenix metal rocks. I mean, there's Megadeth,
Sacred Reich (every thursday at the Mason Jar :))) ), F&J, Sepultura
(relocated from Brazil), Jason Newsted, George Lynch, Gary Hoey (lives in
Lake Havasu City, AZ), Alice Cooper, hmm, I know there are more, but I
can't think of any more off hand.
Oh yeah, bought the new G3 live video today too. GET IT!!! If you're not
into the Satch/Vai/Johnson type of stuff, at least buy it as an
instructional tape :)
Jam on, jammerz,
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 03:52:21 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SYMPHONY-X and FATES CLIPS
Message-ID: <199706071052.DAA19879@gms.gmsnet.com>
You want it???? You got it!!!!! MPEG 3 ONLY!!!!! :)
Symphony-X and Fates Warning from APSoG MPEG 3's.... full length
goodies!!!
While you're there, if you haven't checked out the Angra MPEG 3's, check
them out....
URL Below:
click on the Ear Candy section to go to the sound clips page...
-The Doc
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