YTSEJAM Digest 2623
Today's Topics:
1) Ashen Dawn
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
2) NDTC:Faith No More MPEG3 songs, Chaos Theory and Jamlinks
by Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net>
3) Blasphemous Rumors
by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
4) Marillion and Progday.
by Mark Tiplady <post@itchy.demon.co.uk>
5) ETERNITY-X SUCKS BALLS
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
6) Re: Faith No More and other New Stuff - Absolutely NDTC
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
7) Re: Faith No More
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
8) Galactic Cowboys...
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
9) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2621
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
10) Re: Marillion US Tour Fund (NDTC)
by Steve Chew <schew@tis.com>
11) Re: Drain STH
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
12) Dokken live
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
13) The FAQ
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
14) Chasing Amy
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
15) Marillion/Fish
by Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com>
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 03:25:15 +0000
From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ashen Dawn
Message-ID: <339CC91B.165F@sprynet.com>
Hey there gang...this is something a friend wanted me to post..sorry to
those who won't like it(but it includes a plug to my homepage):
Ashen Dawn
You have just received a promo photo(I didn't send the photo -
phillip) of Ashen Dawn: a Progressive/Power Metal band from Louisiana.
We are mainly focused on the interesting details
of what a good song should be. These qualities include: lyrics that
dwell
on the surreal/introspective side, powerful operatic vocals, and music
that
is well thought over and scrutinized so that every part will be
interesting
and keep the listener's attention.
If you are a Progressive Metal fan you have probably noticed that a
great majority of the bands in this genre seem to be sounding the same.
As a
band we try to separate ourselves from what you would usually expect.
There
has been a new thing now with Progressive metal bands trying to outdo
each
other. We are sick of this type of "who's better than who," attitude,
and we
choose to just walk our own path, writing what we feel in our hearts
whether
it is based around a jazz feel, a blues riff, a classical passage, or a
tribal escapade. We have realized a long time ago that it is best to
"serve
a song" rather than simply try to impress people. And we always try to
throw
in things out of the ordinary, yet still staying focused on keeping the
flow
of the song, while continuously branching into diffeent directions. For
example: on one of our newer songs, "Desire In The Balance," it starts
as a
neo-classical breakdown from the ending of the previous song which
builds
into a power metal groove, yet still retaining the harmonic minor
progressions, then it slowly moves into a tribalesque movement with
radiant
vocals by Brett and lavish lyrics by Jay.
Now it is a fact that we do get a little musically "pretentious"
but
that is just our way of expressing a certain idea or sentiment that the
song
is dealing with. We are trying to do new things with the abstraction of
music. There are certain times when we allow an interlude to stand in
place
of lyrics; a sort of symbolic attempt to grab the listener so they can
use
their imagination in reference with what the song is about. As the
music
plays their minds will see pictures that relate to the song's thesis.
Some of our influences and inspiration include (in no particular
order):
Crimson Glory, Queensryche, Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Vinnie Moore,
Yngwie Malmsteen, Conception, Vicious Rumors, Ray Gillan, Randy Coven,
Billy
Sheehan, George Lynch, Enchant, Paul Gilbert, Jason Becker, Ivanhoe,
Stratovarius, Threshold, Megadeth, Classical music of all sorts, Cea
Serin,
Seventhsign, Edwin Dare, Lemur Voice, Nevermore, and just about anything
else
that we can get our hands on to extract some illumination. Even Yanni,
Carcass, Elvis, and Journey have come across our creative desks at
times.
Ashen Dawn are:
Brett Dozier ~ Lead Vocals
Chad Suire ~ Drums and Percussion
Keith Warman ~ Guitars and Backing Vocals
Jay Lamm ~ Bass, Backing Vocals, and Keyboards (also in the Mercurial
Metal
outfit, Cea Serin)
We are also looking for a full time Keyboardist. If you know of any, or
are
one, and if in the area, please e-mail me back.
- If you are a record company we would like more information on how we
can
submit a demo tape to you.
- If you are a management company we would like to see what we can do to
receive some representation
- If you are a magazine, we would love to know how to get some of our
demos
reviewed, our name out, and our message brought across.
- If you are just interested and would like to hear a sample of Ashen
Dawn,
we are in the works of finishing up our first demo tape. We could
always
mail you a free copy.
- If you want to know more about lyrics, personal information, or
general
band info please e-mail me back at one of the following addresses and I
will
be more than happy to get back with you
For more info on Ashen Dawn of Cea Serin care of this bazaar,
informative,
and very cool web site kindly provided by Phillip Kish:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/2553
e-mail me at:
AshenDawn@aol.com
or if you want to know more about the Mercurial Metal band, Cea Serin,
e-mail
me at:
CeaSerin@aol.com
Thank You for taking this time to read this message
Jay Lamm and Ashen Dawn
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later gang
Phillip
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 02:06:08 -0700
From: Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NDTC:Faith No More MPEG3 songs, Chaos Theory and Jamlinks
Message-ID: <339D1900.123@netwiz.net>
Just thought i would drop a note to all to let you folks know that
i have actually put a bit more work into my site since my last post and
now have a Faith No More page with 4 MPEG3 song files from the new
album. They are less than CD quality but still quite good.
Additionally, there is a full length Chaos Theory MPEG3 song
available on my site for those interested to check out...it can be found
on the ALBUM INFO page within my Chaos site.
Finally, the Jamlinks page has been up and running for sometime now
but i think i failed to announce it.Anyway, if you have a personal
hompage and would like to be added to the Jamlinks page, email me and
give me the info i need (name, email, web url) and i will add you on. If
you already sent me the info, please check to make sure your link works.
To find all this just follow the link below and select MUSICAL
PURSUITS after you enter the main area. I have been so busy that few
other things have changed but i assure you they will in time; keep
checking back with the site.
Cheers-
Yanos
http://www.netwiz.net/~yanos
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 19:00:19 -0400
From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Blasphemous Rumors
Message-ID: <199706092300.TAA30451@darkstar.icdc.com>
I don't want to alarm you folks, but the word is the rest of the Rush-tour
is cancelled due to cancer. And not just Neil has the cancer this time,
either. Think bigger -- the entire band! In fact, all three of them are,
in all honesty, joined, truthfully, at the waist by one, I kid you not,
giant tumor.
Or maybe I'm just full of it... <grin>
A somewhat ridiculous question for the peanut gallery... I got in my
shipment of KTS boots a few weeks ago, and most of them are double CD sets.
Where would one go about getting a double box? And not the ones that are
two boxes put together, a single one with a flippy-thing inside. Help?
Brian Henderson, Super Street Cyberburlap II Turbo
Cyberburlap@icdc.com
"Mom... Make me some juice..." -- me, yesterday while sick (aka, pathetic mode)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:57 GMT0
From: Mark Tiplady <post@itchy.demon.co.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Marillion and Progday.
Message-ID: <memo.970610115756.234A@itchy.demon.co.uk>
> IMHO, that was a bad move on their part. If Marillion wants to get big,
> then the band has to start playing prog festivals and build up their way up.
> Peter Renfro has been trying to get Marillion to play ProgDay for the past
> two years. I don't know why they declined. Maybe they demanded too much
> money.
S'funny, last I heard Marillion were set to headline this year's Progday.
Mark.
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 04:18:03 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ETERNITY-X SUCKS BALLS
Message-ID: <199706101118.EAA09197@gms.gmsnet.com>
Well, these guys have much ego... but yet they aren't all that... I SAY
FUCK THEM... The guy who responded to subtlerage was like a fuckin 15
year old!!!
If you're gonna have that much ego, at least you gotta have music to back
it up, they don't...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ E-MAIL: drkhoe@gmsnet.com #$%#$#$% *$%&%#$* Global Micro Solutions #$#$#@@# *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$ #$@#$#@# http://www.gmsnet.com/progmetal @#$@##@$------------------------------
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Faith No More and other New Stuff - Absolutely NDTC Message-ID: <199706101339.JAA20618@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
> I'm also anxiously awaiting getting the debut from Jimmie's Chicken > Shack, which comes out on Tuesday 6/10/97. I've heard the first single > "High" and it rules!! Catch you all later... > > The Ever Present Matt
You sure that this is the debut -- I could have sworn I saw something by Jimmie's Chicken Shack for $3 at the CD place I go to.....I'm pretty sure that was the name....how can you confuse it? :P
-Al
-- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com, j-kube@nh.ultranet.com Subject: Re: Faith No More Message-ID: <v01520d01afc2d306f8e3@[207.90.117.65]>
> 4. I have the following albums "TRT" "AD" and the self-titled > one without Mike Patton. Which albums should I get that I don't > have?
Get the new one..."album of the year." totally great CD!!!!!!
"kind for a day/ fool for a lifetime" is good, too; but definitely pick up the latest...
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Galactic Cowboys... Message-ID: <v01520d02afc2d41a39cf@[207.90.117.65]>
For *any* Ytsejammers interested...
The Galactic Cowboys (the crazy band that toured with DT in 1993) is coming out with a new album. It's called "The Horse That Bud Bought," and it's due out on June 23rd (Europe) and July 15th (States) on Metal Blade Records.
I'd call 'em heavy rock with great harmonies...
I got the new CD early (some perks of running a kickin' page), and it rocks!!! There are better songs on their first three, but OVERALL, I like the new one better. There's not a crap song on it, IMO.
Anyway, if you want more info about GC, go to the (Cedarville) URL below. Also, I should have lyrics for the new album up on my (GeoCities) URL by Wednesday.
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:05:40 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2621 Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-970610140540Z-4040@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
This show is a done deal, at least the Fates part of it. I was waiting for Skadz permission to advertise it here, but since Pat saved me the trouble... :)
(Sorry, our fearless leader, but this is too good a chance to pass up!)
<pitch> I have, in my hand, printed Ticketbastard tickets for this show. I'm one of Division's guitar players, and yes, we're selling tickets - for the face price, with no service charge. We'll even get them to you.</pitch>
Seriously, this is going to happen, and there's only one other band I'd be more psyched about playing with, and since I'm on this list, I don't think I need to tell you who THAT is... :)
Oh yeah, we're pretty good, too. :)
email me for more details, or anything else - blevinsm@amsc.belvoir.army.mil or eaeolian@crosslink.net
I know you Maryland 'jammers want to go, and it helps us, and saves you money...
A little DT content - does anyone have the "Lie" single that they'd want to sell of copy? Let me know...
Division - DC Power/prog metal is alive and well, but suffering from hockey withdrawl... http://www.crosslink.net/~division or human email division@aol.com
>Read this in alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive: >>Metal Blade recording artists Fates Warning >>will be appearing at Jaxx in Springfield, VA >>Friday August 9th; with Divine Regale and DC's own >>Division. >> >>Presale tickets are available fro $20 by either contacting >>myself (sstewart@crosslink.net) or calling the Division >>Hotline (703)354-8160 > >Anyone have more information???????????? > >I checked the Metal Blade homepage and nothing about tour dates. > >Anyone from Divine Regale want to add any info? > >
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:54:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Chew <schew@tis.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Marillion US Tour Fund (NDTC) Message-ID: <199706101454.KAA07925@clipper.hq.tis.com>
> >>The Afraid of Sunlight North American Tour in 1995 stopped in 16 cities, >>yet lost an estimated $30,000, mainly due to poor support and faith from >>the various tour promoters. If you were Marillion, would you spend >>thousands of your hard earned dollars to tour for $12 per ticket and low >>booking fees? The prospects for a Strange Engine Tour appeared bleak. > >IMHO, that was a bad move on their part. If Marillion wants to get big, >then the band has to start playing prog festivals and build up their way up. >Peter Renfro has been trying to get Marillion to play ProgDay for the past >two years. I don't know why they declined. Maybe they demanded too much >money. >
Actually, rumor has it that they may well be playing at ProgDay this year since they'll be in the states already. No confirmations on this yet. It doesn't make sense for Marillion to build their way up by playing prog festivals. Most everyone who goes to prog festivals will have already heard them, so they won't be building on their fan base. Plus, it's very expensive to fly to the US every few months for another prog festival. Part of the problem with the last tour was that the local city promoters just didn't promote them. If you're a fan who isn't on the net you probably won't even know they're playing in your town. On another note, the tour fund is one of the coolest things to come along in a long time. The fans wanted a tour and actually put their money behind their words (of course the tour CD helped, but the average contribution is twice the minimum necessary to get a CD). There aren't many bands whose fans would do that; though if it came down to it I could see Ytsejammers getting behind DT like that. :-)
Steve
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:42:27 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Drain STH Message-ID: <339D75E3.2781@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> From: wax
> BTW, someone posted about a band called "Dream STH" - it's actually > Drain STH, they are an all girl band from Stockholm, Sweden and are > touring with Ozzfest. The single is "I Don't Mind" and it does rock!!
I'd be interested in a review of them from anyone who plans on attending Ozzfest. Are they as tight live? Do they rock you nads? Can you take your eyes/minds off their bodies long enough to listen to the music? :) You know, the usual....
Regards,
Jon
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 00:56:11 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dokken live Message-ID: <199706101556.AAA25621@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Well,just another 18hours till Dokken on-line live.
Here's URL http://www.udo.co.jp
Later. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:44:42 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The FAQ Message-ID: <199706101643.AA24208@gateway2.prudential.com>
Dear God! Thus spake Merlo: Am I wasting my time maintaining this thing?
No! You are not. In the last week I have been trying to "enhance" my DT collection by obtaining "live" material (read as "buy bootlegs"). I have found the FAQ to be a valuable resource in helping me identify what songs are on what CDs. Even as a veteran, the FAQ has great value to me, one that should not be forgotten: a ready reference guide to DT on the net. Thanks D-Man! Keep it up!!!!
>Makes me want to start up an Anti-FAQ, just out of my own personal >amusement...
Now on the other hand, this isn't a bad idea...:) Partha wrote: >I am speechless
Good thing your fingers still work...:)
>New Megadeath....
Hey, one of my favorite bands! Right up there with Dream Theatre...:P On bad live vocals: >and everyone forgot Dave Mustaine. :-)
Am I the only one who likes Dave's voice live?
>~Eckie gits medieval
And you were something other than that before? ;) -- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com *************************************************************
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 10:04:32 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Chasing Amy Message-ID: <199706101704.KAA13952@main.cfmc.com>
>From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com> > >Now that I have a renewed intrest in the band, I have a few questions: > >1. Did the old bassist leave after Angel Dust?
He was threatening to, but that never came to pass. He's still alive and kicking and in the band.
>2. I heard in a past post that the guitarist had left the band. True?
Yep. Jim Martin left a while ago. Trey Spruance was on hand to record the last album, but he left, too. Which leaves someone else whose name I don't know handling guitar duties for the band.
>3. I heard in a past jam that (not that it really matters) one of the >members of the band was openly gay?
Yep. Roddy Bottom, the keyboardist, is gay.
>4. I have the following albums "TRT" "AD" and the self titled one >without Mike Patton. Which albums should I get that I don't have?
The "self-titled" one? I think, maybe you're referring to "Introduce Yourself." They also released a record, "We Care A Lot" that has several of the same songs "Introduce Yourself" does, with Chuck Mosely. I'm not aware of any other releases they came up with while he was in the band (Trivia: Faith No More's singer BEFORE Chuck Mosely was Courtney Love....wild, eh?). I haven't heard the new one myself, but I have heard good things about it. At a guess, that's probably the next one you want. I've heard less wonderful things about "Fool for a Day," but I happen to like it, for what it's worth.
>From: sinkdrain@juno.com (Brian A Stahl) > > Anyone know why they disappeared?? The day I bought my first DT >album (IAW) the guy behind the desk said, "Dude, its the best album in >the store....you also have to try Damn the Machine.
They're awfully good, but my understanding was that the record just bombed. I dunno. For all I know, they may still be around...I haven't heard anything about Chris Poland since. Anyone have a clue?
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Dar Williams: The Honesty Room 2. Jaco Pastorius: Word of Mouth 3. Tori Amos: Boys for Pele 4. Indigo Girls: Nomads, Saints and Sinners 5. Brand X: Livestock
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 14:41:24 +0100 From: Steffen Barabasch <TheMirror@westend.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Marillion/Fish Message-ID: <yam7098.1223.1460918072@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi!
Itchy wrote:
>Btw, all of Marillion's albums are being remastered, right now. And >every single one of them will have bonus tracks and/or a bonus CD !
I was listening to Fugazi when I read this - seems like I have to spend some money soon... ;-) Just hope these CDs are better than the pointless EMI Queen Remasters. The US versions by Hollywood Rec. were much better.
I borrowed a promo copy of the new FISH album some days ago. That one's a good bit better than Suits. Don't know if it's the best solo album, but it's his best work for years. The opener "Perception..." just rocks. Nearly 8 minutes of the same heavy riff repeated over and over again without getting boring. Great. If he could only drop this country touch on some of his songs (melodies, guitar sound)...
Steffen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steffen Barabasch - THE MIRROR TheMirror@westend.com Deutscher Dream Theater Fanclub http://www.westend.com/TheMirror -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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