YTSEJAM Digest 2624
Today's Topics:
1) IRRITATING WAYS TO WAKE SOMEONE UP?
by King of the Internet <skooc@earthlink.net>
2) Kiss?
by Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
3) Queensryche tour opener?
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
4) Megadeth Live..
by Mike Hill <psytron@ntr.net>
5) eternity-x/jimmies chicken shack NDTC
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
6) Galactic Cowboys and Eternity-X
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
7) D'oh!
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
8) Re: Marillion and Progday.
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
9) Dead Winter Dead, Eternity X, Flots, Damn The Machine
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
10) Progday
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
11) Fates Warning/Divine Regale/Division in DC
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
12) bad move ? telephone game ?
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
13) Faith No More
by master.of.puppets@asylumbbs.com
14) Re: DT OPEN FOR QR
by Your Majesty <metlhead@li.net>
15) Re: Drain
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
16) Re: Long suffering
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
17) Re: DT Songbooks, etc.
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:07:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: King of the Internet <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: IRRITATING WAYS TO WAKE SOMEONE UP?
Message-ID: <199706101807.LAA12967@norway.it.earthlink.net>
This comes from someone on the VH list. One of the funniest guys I've
ever met on the internet. Scott
>You want a really irritating way to wake up a group of basketball players? Try
>these.
>
>1) Ring the phones in their rooms until they answer. Hang up on them. Repeat
>these two easy steps about 15 times.
>
>2) Fire alarms. What else needs to be said?!?
>
>3) If you could get the doors to their rooms opened it would be really
>irritating to them if someone opened the door, turned on the light, and just
>gave them a dead stare right in the eyes. I'm talking a no blink 5 minute
>stare, totally stone faced.
>
>4) Throw the door open and start singing "Rise and shine and give the God the
>glory glory, rise and shine and give God the glory glory, rise and shine and
>give God the glory glory children of the Lord!!" (that's an old camp favorite)
>
>5) See if you could get a dog to lick them between their toes.
>
>6) Take a hair (from your head) and rub their cheeks ever so lightly. It gives
>the feeling of a bug walking across your face. Eventually they will wake up
>because they took a slap at the bug. HA!! (my personal favorite)
>
>7) Room service at 4:00am
>
>8) Go to the lobby phone and dial up the front desk and ask for the cleaning
>lady. (probably wouldn't work though)
>
>9) Classic knocking on the door and running away. But do it about 20 times.
>
>10) Turn off the air con and turn on the heater.
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:19:18 -0400
From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kiss?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970610141507.007b2790@ionsys.com>
>the moon. The Remasked Ones apparently got the idea from spaceman
>guitarist Ace Frehley, and have been nosing around the aerospace industry
a bit,
>asking how they might become the first rock band to ever play a gig on the
moon.
>
>Sheesh...guess Gene Simmons is more eager for notoriety than he is afraid
>of heights. Wait'll he finds out that NASA won't allow groupies on a
>spaceship.
Umm . . . wouldn't it be kind of difficult for them to play a gig on the
moon, considering there isn't exactly an atmosphere through which the sound
waves can travel?
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:18:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Queensryche tour opener?
Message-ID: <199706101818.OAA49363@pilot05.cl.msu.edu>
I may have missed it, but has a QR tour opener been decided yet? I'm
going to catch them here in Detroit and I'd love to know whether it will be
worth it to show up for the opening band or not. :)
Andrew
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter"Outside the soundness of your mind" "I don't believe what I'm thinking" Bathing your soul in silver tears I'm less than useful Beneath a blackened summer sky I could take it from someone else Praying for time to disappear" But even I think it's truthful" ---Dream Theater "Under a Glass Moon" ---Ned's Atomic Dustbin "Less Than Useful"
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:19:01 -0400 From: Mike Hill <psytron@ntr.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Megadeth Live.. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970610181901.00725e78@ntr.net>
Megadeth will be playing the kickoff show of their tour this friday the 13th in Phoenix. It's gonna be simulcast on the web in real audio, check http://www.hollywoodandvine.com/megadeth for more info on that. Also, its gonna be simulcast on a bunch of radio stations around the country. For the list of em, go to http://www.hollywoodandvine.com/megadeth/radiostations.html
there are about a hundred of em..
later, mike psytron@ntr.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: eternity-x/jimmies chicken shack NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970610145633.23173D-100000@reagan.mcl.bdm.com>
The Doctor wrote: >Well, these guys have much ego... but yet they aren't all that... I SAY >FUCK THEM... The guy who responded to subtlerage was like a fuckin 15 >year old!!! > >If you're gonna have that much ego, at least you gotta have music to back >it up, they don't...
I agree. I think everyone should voice their opinion in eternity-x's guest book.
Al B (B for BAD TRADER) wrote: > You sure that this is the debut -- I could have sworn I saw > something by Jimmie's Chicken Shack for $3 at the CD place I > go to.....I'm pretty sure that was the name....how can you > confuse it? :P
I would think that the upcoming release will be their first on a real label instead of self produced.
They are a Baltimore based band and in my opinion, I dont like them. Definitely not prog more like punk thrash.
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:04:12 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Galactic Cowboys and Eternity-X Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970610150126.929B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Dan Temmesfeld wrote:
> The Galactic Cowboys (the crazy band that toured with DT in 1993) is coming > out with a new album. It's called "The Horse That Bud Bought," and it's
YES!! YES!! YES!! These guys kick ass. This is *great* news. Here's a band that needs support (OK, like DT doesn't, I know). Matter of fact, I had Space In Your Face in the changer as I read this. Eerie.
Hmmm... another DT/GC tour in the works? :)
> I got the new CD early (some perks of running a kickin' page), and it
I hope that's really true. :)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:07:01 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: D'oh! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970610150416.929C-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
I almost forgot the second part of that last post. I'll be writing to that guy from Eternity-X later today, telling him that neither me nor any of my friends will be purchasing his cd's or attending his concerts, until he leaves the band or retracts his statements in writing. The way he acted is uncalled for, and I refuse to support musicians that treat their fans this way.
I'm hoping some more of you will do the same. I know that M-Bone and Dr. Mosh feel the same way. How about you? Let's see some action on this one.
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:16:15 +0000 From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Marillion and Progday. Message-ID: <B0000120938@chicago.orlinter.com>
At 04:13 AM 6/10/97 -0700, you wrote: >> IMHO, that was a bad move on their part. If Marillion wants to get big, >> then the band has to start playing prog festivals and build up their way up. >> Peter Renfro has been trying to get Marillion to play ProgDay for the past >> two years. I don't know why they declined. Maybe they demanded too much >> money. > >S'funny, last I heard Marillion were set to headline this year's Progday.
It is still iffy at this point. The band lineup for Progday should be settled any day now. I'll keep the 'jam posted.
Walter.
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 97 15:25 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dead Winter Dead, Eternity X, Flots, Damn The Machine Message-ID: <m0wbWY7-0000IbC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
First of all, why is everyone trashing a guy for trying to sell a CD he doesn't like. I love all of Savatage's music and wouldn't sell anything I have from them ever (invested probably about 400-450 dollars in the band) but Dead Winter Dead is their weakest album in my opinion. I mean a majority of the music is slow ballads and nothing but. They are all very moving but they should've thrown in a little more EOT type stuff.
Eternity X are assholes- they never reply to their e-mails, trash other bands, etc. Don't waste your time.
Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't care for the new Flotsam And Jetsam. While I do like some of it, it does sound a tad generic and the progression they showed on Drift and Cuatro is just gone.
And finally, Damn The Machine: MIA.
Don
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:54:00 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Progday Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970610155315.1027C-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Walter Semerenko wrote:
> It is still iffy at this point. The band lineup for Progday should be > settled any day now. I'll keep the 'jam posted.
Where and when is Progday?
Just curious, -d
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fates Warning/Divine Regale/Division in DC Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970610160227.23173H-100000@reagan.mcl.bdm.com>
Since Fates is playing in DC on Friday August 9th, I was wondering if any of the Baltimore/Columbia MD jammers would be interested in meeting somewhere and then carpooling down to the club which is south of DC. I dont care either if Fates ends up playing in Baltimore later. This looks like a great prog show and I would go to both shows. So if you are interested in a Ytse Trek to the DC Fates show then let me know via private email.
thanks
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:44:07 +0200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: bad move ? telephone game ? Message-ID: <01BC75F7.E0C1CB20@ValEris.startrek.GlobalXS.nl>
Walter Semerenko said :
> IMHO, that was a bad move on their part. If Marillion wants to get big, > then the band has to start playing prog festivals and build up their > way up.
Uh, there IS no way up for Marillion. All there is left is commercial success, and that's not exactly what the fans OR the band have in mind. They have been trying to tour the US as a support act. But NO ONE wants them to open for them, for one simple reason: They're TOO fucking GOOD. I'm not saying this because I'm a fan. This is actually something their keyboardist said on the Marillion list. Mind you, he wasn't telling us how good they are, he was telling us about the replies they got.
> Peter Renfro has been trying to get Marillion to play ProgDay for the > past two years. I don't know why they declined. Maybe they demanded > too much money.
No fucking way. They don't want to make money off a US tour. All they want is to break even. Bringing all their equipment and stuff to the US for a festival is just too expensive. Here's something you should know about Marillion. During every tour, they do gigs at BIG concert halls to make a lot of money. They use this money so they can do gigs in countries where they definately LOSE money.
Another example. Glasgow was originally left out of this year's tour schedule (something they had no say over). So what do they do ? They do a special fanclub (warming up) gig in Glasgow, BEFORE the tour :-)
Ok, one more. Marillion was originally going to do *four* concerts in Holland. *One* of them was supposed to be a fanclub concert. Usually, the fanclub gets to buy all the tickets and then sell them to the fan club members... For some reason the tickets for this gig went on sale just like with the other gigs. Result: No fanclub concert.
What does Marillion do ? They arrange a FIFTH concert, especially for the fanclub. The tickets for the regular gigs costed $24. The tickets for the fanclub gig were only $14 (my train ticket costed more!).
Also, this ended up being the tour's longest gig so far, and probably the most beautiful one too... Words can not describe how special that band is.
Most of you probably know this, but Mike Portnoy and Mark Zonder (FW) are both HUGE Marillion fans. _____
Jeremy P. Kube said :
> Hey all, It's funny how if you play that telephone game (the one where > you start a message at the one end of the room and see how the message > gets manipulated and twisted on the other end) how the message gets > really screwed up (sometimes on purpose) I wonder if that happens with > the jam?? I posted this at the end of one of my posts: > > I promise next time that when I have something to share about DT I > will post it... Lata, J > > Then someone posted tonight: > > I promise next time that when I have something to share someone can > shoot me. Lata, J > > Funny what happens, huh?? > > Just thought that I would share, J
If you're talking about this :
> I promise that I will post some DTC in my next post or someone can > shoot me.
This was a DIRECT QUOTE from your post (you know, copy and paste). I was only kidding, because the next thing you posted was titled :
> Subject: A couple of things....(NDTC)
Sorry you can't take a joke. Personally, I thought it was fucking hilarious. :-)
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:42:08 -0500 From: master.of.puppets@asylumbbs.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Faith No More Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.6.10.14.42.8.2310717883.246515@asylumbbs.com>
I was just wondering if anyone could help me out with this. A while ago (5 years probably)...I can remember a Faith No More song that got alot of MTV play. I loved the song then. I never bought the album and now I can't remember the name of the song. A couple of weeks ago I saw the video again on the top 500 Countdown. Again, I missed the name of the song....Can anyone help? Please mail me!
Later, chris <Lunatic's Asylum BBS * asylumbbs.com * (907) 274-8645 or (907) 278-8646) <The Place To Go When Life Is Driving You Nuts>
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:52:22 -0500 From: Your Majesty <metlhead@li.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT OPEN FOR QR Message-ID: <339DE8B6.74FF@li.net>
> PLEASE GOD LET DT OPEN FOR QR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry...but the official word that i heard was that DT will NOT open for QR! they were schedualed to open for them but had to cancel since they fell behind in recording the new album when petrucci got sick....
Remember....this is only what i HEARD.
BTW, does anyone have the lyrics to the new FNM album?
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 97 18:22:43 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Drain Message-ID: <339de1c25c2b675@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Drain has been getting quite a bit of airplay up here. All I'll say is, when I go to Ozzfest, I'll be off somewhere buying t-shirts or taking a piss while they're on stage (same with 3/4 of the bands...it's a really shitty lineup, but Ozzie, Sabbath and Type O are worth the price of the ticket).
I'm also going to see Alice Cooper with Dokken, Warrant, and Slaughter. Woohoo! All hail 80s rock! ;-)
-Brian
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:52:57 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Long suffering Message-ID: <199706110053.RAA27685@odin.ax.com>
> Trust me, I know of long suffering. I grew up in Idaho, no major teams > of any sort. We were happy if our football teams followed the > directions of our cheerleaders...not the usual.."fight, fight, fight" > nope..."cross 'em over, pull the strings, make a double loop!!!!!"
You thought you were suffering... I'M STILL LIVING HERE!!!!! AAAGGGHGHHHH!!!!!!! :) It's not so bad after you accept sodomy as a way of life.
> Recently, some events have happened regarding the prog band known as > "Eternity-X" and a fellow jammer, Andrew "Subtlerage" Miller. I > urge you to read the following webpages and see if you reach the > same conclusions I did, and if you can see the truth behind the > spokesperson for this band. > > First, go to their homepage at http://www.eternity-x.com . Then, > check out their online survey form at > http://www.eternity-x.com/survey.html and see if you think it's a > TAD bit biased or misguided, and possibly egocentric. > > Finally, to see some very, very interesting correspondence between > Andy and Keith Sudano (the band's apparent spokesperson), go to > http://www.subtlerage.com/eternity-x/ .
Also, I am a person who tends to bias a band by their actions. After reading this filth this guy pinned on Andrew, I have to say that I would NEVER consider buying one of their albums. Besides, what I have heard before, I didn't like... Makes me wanna start a crusade against them... Anyway, order Subtlerage's First Impressions while you're there, it rocks, it's like Yanni Theater, kinda... KorgX3 ibanez@cyberhighway.net "I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offense against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face." - Mandorallen, Baron of Vo Mandor
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Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 01:22:00 -0600 From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT Songbooks, etc. Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970610012200.0068a24c@autobahn.mb.ca>
Surprisingly, these Warner books are more accurate than any Cherry Lane songbook. Anyways, here are most of the lyrical errors; the more blatant ones, but some are good for a laugh. (Remember the misinterpreted lyrics on the FAQ? Here's some to add to it, I think). PMU: ..everyday says future to post... ..Others fly and I fall again... TTT: ..And at the end of this day sights an anxious relief for the fortunate lies still in his head... ..I can see much clearer now, I blind... Surrounded: ..Dreams are shaking, set silence waking up tired eyes... Metropolis: ..Death is the first chance eternal... ..The both of you will be confirmed... ..I was told there's no miracle for each day that I tried... ..There must be the third and last death... ..Metropolis watches and thoughtfully ... (smiles was omitted) UAGM: ..bathing your soul in zero tears... If anyone's curious...no, they didn't print the vocal outro to PMU. They simply put "With background vocal", and yes, it's 10 bars. Awake has very few...3 minor errors in the lyrics and only one minor notation error in 6:00, excluding tab errors, which no one should care about. Despite that, as I said, these are the most accurate books I've ever seen published, as far as typos go, and the accuracy is approaching 100%. Last I heard, I&W is out of print from Warner, except what may be in warehouses around the country. Awake is still in print, and the more accurate of the two.
>Actually, I don't think copyrights issues were the reason that they left >"The Big Medley" out of the version, because they left LTL out too in the I&W book! > What company published your book? I have the I&W book and LTL is right there in the back! Every bar of it.
About PMU: >Well, the song tells something very similar to Hamlet's indecision >of killing or not King Christopher for mudering Hamlet's father. I have > Something like that...Check the FAQ out to be sure.
Tunage of the day: Savatage - Alone You Breathe
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