YTSEJAM Digest 2626
Today's Topics:
1) Spock's Beard, Fates Warning, Marillion
by Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
2) Megadeth + CDs.
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
3) Angra - Holy Land.
by Hein Vandenabeele
4) Re: Faith No More video/name search
by Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net>
5) Interesting...
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
6) Mustaine's "Spider" Technique
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
7) Faith No More song title? Probably Epic.
by Nick Bogovich <bogie@sage-enterprises.com>
8) American History 101 for Dave Mustaine (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
9) eternity-x
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
10) Re: Faith No More & MTV
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
11) Re: FNM lyrics
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
12) Re: Eternity-X..whatever!
by Margaret <maddy@enteract.com>
13) Dream Theater to use Bill Clinton on sax for Another Day
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
14) Spock's Beard/Genesis
by Paul Goracke <pgor@netcom.com>
15) Re: Spock's Beard/Genesis
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
16) Fates/Regale/Division in DC
by "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
17) Questionnaire inside the Awake CD
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
18) Faith No More
by nightcast@usa.net
19) Faith No mOre help
by "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@humnet.ucla.edu>
20)
by Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:29:56 +0100 (BST)
From: Graham Borland <gborland@apsoft.co.uk>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Spock's Beard, Fates Warning, Marillion
Message-ID: <Marcel-1.08-0611082956-bc8rZWN@mor.apsoft.co.uk>
I've been going to my local Tower Records for 5 years now . . . but never
venturing up to the third floor, because I thought it was all jazz. When
a friend dragged me up there last week, I was totally amazed to find a
great indie section with loads of obscure stuff I'd been longing for!
So, I walked out with Beware of Darkness by Spock's Beard, and
A Pleasant Shade of Grey by The Spice Girls. I'll be back for more soon.
The Spock's Beard album is one of the best things I've ever heard.
> Another example. Glasgow was originally left out of this year's tour
> schedule (something they had no say over). So what do they do ? They
> do a special fanclub (warming up) gig in Glasgow, BEFORE the tour :-)
Yes, and a truly wonderful concert it was, too . . . despite the fact
that Scotland had lost 2-1 to Sweden only an hour previously! (That should
have been a penalty.) ;-)
Graham
-- Graham Borland Email : gborland@apsoft.co.uk WWW : http://www.apsoft.co.uk Alternative Publishing Ltd Tel : 0141 418 0881 30 Clyde Place, Glasgow G5 8AQ Fax : 0141 418 0889------------------------------
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:43:06 -0700 (MST) From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Megadeth + CDs. Message-ID: <199706110843.BAA19767@goodnet.com>
Well, Megadeth was real cool. Nice setlist. Nice huge hiatus in the middle of the show too. :)
Uncle Dave and Vince LuPone... couldn't find ya to get your PT and DW CDs to you, which I had at the show. Too late now, I'm shipping them off to the next people on the list. Nyah nyah. :)
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: 11 Jun 97 10:43:41 EDT From: Hein Vandenabeele To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Angra - Holy Land. Message-ID: <9706111145.AA0494@NYC-NTGW-N02.ny.jpmorgan.com>
Anybody the Belgian area wanting to buy this album ? I can not be enthousiastic about it - I bought after hearing one song, can't remember the name... I am almost willing to give it away like that...
Cannot understand people find this so excellent... Just 2 songs on it... These guys listened very well to some Helloween stuff - which is IMHO a lot better than this...
Friend's Price !!!
H.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 03:57:43 -0700 From: Yanos Aldron <yanos@netwiz.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Faith No More video/name search Message-ID: <339E84A7.53@netwiz.net>
With regard to that mystery video by Faith No More on the MTV count-down, i would verture to guess it was Epic off the album The Real Thing since this song was played in "heavy" rotation on MTV and was out "about 5 years ago." If it contains images of hands with eyes in the palms squirting green and orange paint and a fish gasping for oxygen at the end, then this is the video/song you seek...otherwise:
the only other Faith videos that got any kind of repeated play were Midlife Crisis from the Angel Dust album (most memorable scene in video was a man being drawn and quartered by horses) or Easy, the Lionel Richie remake from the Songs To Make Love To EP which shows the band lounging around an apartment.
cheers-
yanos http://www.netwiz.net/~yanos
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 97 14:38:34 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Interesting... Message-ID: <9706111238.AA00368@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all
A guy that I work with and with whom I often swap CDs brought me something yesterday that I think I ought to share with you.
The album is called 'Shadow Of The Moon' and is by Blackmore's Night (a.k.a. Ritchie Blackmore). Imagine, if you can, an album of essentially acoustic music that sounds like the following got put through a blender: Loreena McKennit, Sally Oldfield, Enya (but not as sickly and sticky), Jethro Tull (Ian Anderson makes a guest appearance), Gryphon and Ulver with a definite medieval touch. You may think I'm promising too much, but give this album a listen and you'll find I'm telling the truth. Most certainly not prog, not rock, and not even new age, just a very light, enjoyable album that is well played and produced. I think this is an album that will be added to my collection very soon. When I listen to this album, I get an almost irresistable urge to nail an inflated pig's bladder to the end of a stick, wave my handkerchief in the air, drink real air and sing with my finger in my ear (explanations of all this can be provided if required). The only weak point of the album is the track "Writing On The Wall", which is a sort of disco rip-off version of something by the late Mr. Tchaikovsky.
I see that the new album 'Creature' by the Canadian band Moist is out. Do any of you moose-trapping jammers have any comments on it? I think it's now on release in Europe.
Has anybody out there had experience with the 'free personal web site' offer from Geocities? How much space do you get? Are there any catches (mail box being filled with advertizing junk)? Reply to me personally.
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: Meshuggah - Destroy Erase Improve
PS Are there any other technical writers on the list?
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 97 8:43:59 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Mustaine's "Spider" Technique Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+GndbnA@tcx.tcco.com>
Does anyone know what Mustaine's "Spider" Technique is? He mentioned it in an article once and I'm pretty sure I saw him do it live a few times, but I'd like to know what it involves. It almost looked like his fingers moved up and down the neck like a spider would walk...
PS - to imitate his singing style, just snarl and sing out of the left side of your mouth...it rules!
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:25:52 -0400 From: Nick Bogovich <bogie@sage-enterprises.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Faith No More song title? Probably Epic. Message-ID: <E1D9F2570E6FD0119CE800A024CC3C71025812@BUDWEISER>
Syrinx said: >> I was just wondering if anyone could help me out with this. A >> while ago (5 years probably)...I can remember a Faith No More song that >> got alot of MTV play. I loved the song then. I never bought the album >> and now I can't remember the name of the song. A couple of weeks ago I >> saw the video again on the top 500 Countdown. Again, I missed the name >> of the song....Can anyone help? Please mail me! > >can you describe the video? from that i can tell you what song it is.
I'd be willing to bet that the song was Epic. The way you could figure it out is if it ends with a segue to a piano playing the melody. I forget the album title at the moment, but it's the one with the fire on it.
Bogie
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:37:02 -0700 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: American History 101 for Dave Mustaine (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970611163702.0068b010@pop.pipeline.com>
Dave Mustaine supposedly said:
> Remember, our >country is built on the blood of our ancestors, and we must always honor >that. Our country is NOT built on cock-sucking muther fuckers like that >Timothy McVeigh dork. If he was here right now, I'd kick the shit out of >that son of a bitch!! Stand up for what you believe in and FIGHT FOR >FREEDOM!!!!" >
Does anyone see the warped logic here? I think Tim Mc Veigh *was* standing up for what he believed in. And I think what he did, in his mind, and in others, was meant to *be* a fight for freedom. I don't justify his actions, and I think these militia characters are nuts, but Dave should remember that our country *was* built on cock-sucking motherfuckers like that. It's hard to have a revolution without attacking the powers that be. I guess 'ol Dave would been a redcoat, because the "americans" (ha ha) were nothing more than terrorists. But the victors write history...and one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
Detroit Red Wings - 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:38:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: eternity-x Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970611093706.27602A-100000@reagan.mcl.bdm.com>
I went to the eternity-x page to check out the guestbook to see the posts but it appears that the guestbook is no longer on the server.
go figure...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Faith No More & MTV Message-ID: <v01520d01afc41c143df4@[207.90.117.132]>
> I can remember a Faith No More song that > got alot of MTV play. I loved the song then.
It was probably "Epic" off of The Real Thing CD...kick ass CD. Maybe "Falling to Pieces" but almost definitely "Epic."
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FNM lyrics Message-ID: <v01520d02afc41c5a4e89@[207.90.117.132]>
> BTW, does anyone have the lyrics to the new FNM album?
There's a page out there dedicated just to that.
Go to Yahoo! and type in "Faith No More." There's a link that says "Faith No More lyrics," and they have at least 11 out of 12 songs up from AOTY.
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:29:45 -0500 From: Margaret <maddy@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Eternity-X..whatever! Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970611092944.0069acf8@enteract.com>
>Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:01:18 -0700 >From: "Matthew A. Schnoor" <schnoor@SpiritOne.com> >To: "_YTSEJAM_" <ytsejam@ax.com> >Subject: Regarding Eternity-X again... please read this
>I'm sure you all saw the original posts that Subtlerage and I put forth, >regarding the band "Eternity-X". New developments have occured that have >forced us to rethink our actions. >
Could this new development be...threatened lawsuit??
>Also, various people on the net have offered their advice to us, and >convinced us that not everybody was interested in hearing about this >subject. So, to bring this to a close quickly, we ask that you not hold >offense against Keith Sudano for anything you may have heard about him on >USENET or for any words of his that you may have read on this page at one >time.
Wow...aren't formal apologies nice? I've had the misfortune of seeing several apologies come out of people I thought I'd never see back down. (and not just here, but in other places I hang out) Well, I guess I'm going to pretend that this was one of the 'jams I deleted before reading, because I feel this guy doesn't really deserve an apology, nor does he deserve to be left alone.
This is like saying "Well, sure the politician took the bribe, but that's between him and the FBI mole who got the bribe on tape!" I'm sorry, but *no*. The music scene is very public and very political (look who's on the top of the charts and think of why they're there) and, therefore, if someone is going to speak on behalf of the band, they should think about every single word they say (or type) before spewing it out. Once it's out, it's public domain, and if the whole band gets sunk because of the big mouth of one guy, then maybe they should replace they guy. It's that simple.
So go ahead, bug Eternity-X, bug their record company, and bug your friends about them. If they're not equipped to handle the public life, then maybe they should go back into the garage.
(disassembling soap box) (cloaking device engaged)
-Maddy
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:47:35 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater to use Bill Clinton on sax for Another Day Message-ID: <339EBA87.4A7B@mailstorm.dot.gov>
>Dman: >> Dan Man:
>> I got the new CD early (some perks of running a kickin' page), and it
>I hope that's really true. :)
So how's the new DT disc sound, Chris? :)
> Jim: > Sorry...but the official word that i heard was that DT will NOT open for QR! > they were schedualed to open for them but had to cancel since
To quote Itchy: "one simple reason: They're TOO fucking GOOD." :)
> Matt & Andy: > We do recommend that you give Eternity-X a fair chance as a progressive > metal band... go to their page and find out what they sound like.
I did. They suck.
> Steffen: > Tell me a band Mike isn't a fan of ;-)...
My first guess would be Blind Melon :}
Regards,
Jon
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
What a mother-fucker absolute stonking boner-inducing piece of music! - Neil Gallop
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:09:32 -0700 From: Paul Goracke <pgor@netcom.com> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Spock's Beard/Genesis Message-ID: <l03102804afc46f47b38a@[128.95.235.96]>
Not sure if this has been discussed, or even mentioned...
Just noticed the other day that the new drummer for Genesis is Nick D'Virgilio, who is mentioned as the drummer for Spock's Beard. I'm not familiar w/ Spock's Beard (yet) other than the positive plugs they get here.
So, I'm wondering--what does this mean for the future of Spock's Beard? Is this going to be another band (like echolyn) that as soon as I get into them because of your reviews, they'll dissolve? Certainly hope not.
Thanks, pg
--------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Goracke | "To do is to be" - Aristotle pgor@netcom.com | "To be is to do" - Plato | "Do be do be do" - Sinatra ---------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:16:56 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Spock's Beard/Genesis Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970611121321.1029A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Paul Goracke wrote:
> So, I'm wondering--what does this mean for the future of Spock's Beard? Is > this going to be another band (like echolyn) that as soon as I get into > them because of your reviews, they'll dissolve? Certainly hope not.
No. Nick did the Genesis thing as a "studio-only" type situation. Genesis has a different drummer for touring, and Nick is still very much a part of Spock's. (Thank Ged for it, too. :)
Which reminds me, I'm still looking for Spock's bootlegs. Someone here's gotta have something. I have plenty to trade.
Oh, yeah, you can tell if that video is "Epic" if there's that 10-bar piano phrase in Latin at the end, and something about molten flesh.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:35:41 -0400 From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Fates/Regale/Division in DC Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=AMSC%l=AMSC_NTAS-970611163541Z-1149@amsc_ntas.amsc.belvoir.army.mil>
Actually, just for accuracy, it's Friday the 8th of August. That's what I get for letting a singer post something...
Mike
Division - DC Power/prog metal is alive and looking forward to being deafend by Mototrhead this Sat. http://www.crosslink.net/~division or human email division@aol.com
>Since Fates is playing in DC on Friday August 9th, I was wondering if any >of the Baltimore/Columbia MD jammers would be interested in meeting >somewhere and then carpooling down to the club which is south of DC. I >dont care either if Fates ends up playing in Baltimore later. This looks >like a great prog show and I would go to both shows. So if you are >interested in a Ytse Trek to the DC Fates show then let me know via >private email. > >thanks > > > >
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 12:42:52 -0500 From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Questionnaire inside the Awake CD Message-ID: <339EE39C.3948@auburn.net>
Hello, everyone! I've been wondering for a few weeks about the little questionnaire sheet that was packaged inside the Awake CD when I bought it. This was the week that it came out, BTW. One of the questions (not really a question, per se) was to rate the songs on Awake in order of preference. I wasn't on the 'jam when Awake came out, so I hope this hasn't been discussed already. Did DT take the results of this survey thingie and use it to help determine the setlist for the ensuing tour? Although the order of my preference of songs on Awake has changed since that time, back then the songs I listed first just happened to be the ones they played at most Awake dates. Coincidence? Could some valiant, info-bearing 'jammer help me out on this one, because I'm curious.
Take care, everyone, Mark Peters swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:55:30 From: nightcast@usa.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Faith No More Message-ID: <ww01-BFkR4d2273@netaddress.usa.net>
There've been a lot of FNM questions on the 'jam in the past couple days, and since FNM is one of my favorite bands, hopefully I can answer them! The album order is: Introduce Yourself, The Real Thing, Angel Dust, Easy (Sort of a single/EP), King for a day, and Album of the Year. The songs that made them popular (probably the ones you've seen on MTV) are 'Epic' and 'Falling to Pieces', both on The Real Thing CD.
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:05:05 PST From: "Glenn Pillsbury" <PILLSBUR@humnet.ucla.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Faith No mOre help Message-ID: <3231200066@113hum2.humnet.ucla.edu>
> I was just wondering if anyone could help me out with this. A > while ago (5 years probably)...I can remember a Faith No More song that > got alot of MTV play. I loved the song then. I never bought the album > and now I can't remember the name of the song. A couple of weeks ago I > saw the video again on the top 500 Countdown. Again, I missed the name > of the song....Can anyone help? Please mail me! > > Wasn't it called "Epic"? Or maybe you're thinking "Midlife Crisis"?
Glenn
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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 13:48:55 -0400 From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970611134043.007a0e90@ionsys.com>
>Well, for all you uninformed types, the presumed band name was just a >"cover up" for Megadeth, and they came out in prime condition.
What the hell is a YtseJammer doing listening to Megadeth? :)
>live anywhere we want to. BUT we choose to live here in Phoenix, Arizona, >the greatest city in the greatest country in the world. Remember, our
I hope Scott Cook doesn't like Megadeth, 'cause he'd probably jump up on stage and beat the shit outta Dave for starting a "my country is better than yours" thread.
>it rocks. Even Empire, which was extremely commercial, was a lot >better. This one sounds like QR covering STP or something. Just one >more band that changed to this boring alternative crap style.
Just one more closed-minded idiot. First of all, if you want to call the new QR "alternative" then fine. But it sure as hell doesn't sound like STP or any other alternative band I've heard, and it's not crap. I too think it's QR's worst album, but I listen to it regularly, and still think it's a pretty good album, there are some really good songs on it. IMO it blows away stuff like, oh... megadeth.
BTW, I thought it sucked the first time I heard it too, but this album grew on me after I decided to listen to it a few times with an open mind. If you're capable of giving it a chance to grow on you, and you still think it sucks, then fine, but don't insult those of us who don't listen exclusively to songs that are 10-minutes long, in odd time signatures, 50% instrumental, with keyboards.
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