YTSEJAM Digest 2631
Today's Topics:
1) Drummers...listen up! Minor dtc
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
2) RE: everything
by Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net>
3) Rush re-issues
by "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
4) RE: everything
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
5) anybody wanna order finneus gauge's new album?
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
6) RUSH re-masters
by JE78674@ltu.edu
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2630
by Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net>
8) Re: Rush Re-masters and In Defense Eternity X - minimal DTC
by Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
9) Re: RUSH re-masters
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
10) Re: Ozz Fest bands
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
11) RE: Big Mouth
by gra@provida.no
12) Big Mouths
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
13) Re: PG, Actual DTC
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
14) Re: Big Mouths
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
15) invitation
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
16) MOIST creature
by imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg)
17) Re: QR openers(giving an unknown band a shot)
by wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:41:15 -0400
From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Drummers...listen up! Minor dtc
Message-ID: <33A0A53B.12D8@nh.ultranet.com>
Hey all!
I purchased Neil Pearts' "A work in progress" today. I have only
watched the first tape and I feel like I have been catapulted about a
year in my education on drums. Neil is a master and if you want to
learn more about stuff like: fills, spontaneous playing and every
drummers' toughest chore.. learning odd time, get this tape!!
It is quite pricy however, I managed to get it 20% off. I paid
around 50 bucks for it. It is well worth the money!! A truly
educational video. I am sure that it is in Mike Portnoy's video
collection, and I am sure that he watches it all the time. He is a huge
Rush fan. Buy it, you won't be disappointed.
Lata, J
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:31:19 -0700
From: Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: everything
Message-ID: <33A04E87.6B8A@concentric.net>
See, told you I should have kept my mouth shut...
Some how, I have been electronically spanked.
LOL
DK
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:46:50 -0400
From: "Jeremy P. Kube" <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush re-issues
Message-ID: <33A0A68A.5A69@nh.ultranet.com>
Someone wrote:
Hey guys-
I can understand why some of the older Rush albums are being re-issued
as
remasters, but why are such albums as "power windows" and "hold your
fire"
being re-issued as well. These albums were done in DDD format and sound
extremely polished. I mean, how much better will a remastered version
be?
The answer to this is simply $$$$$$!!! The old record company, Polygram
owns the rights to all of the old Rush stuff (everything from "A show of
hands" back) and wants to make some more dough off of the Rush fans of
today. I bet that Atlantic is really pissed about this, but I am almost
positive that they will make more $$ off the live album that I am pretty
sure will be coming out this fall (from the surprise live show that was
put on in Toronto just before Rush's holiday break)
So, in closing the remasters will equal nothing but good ol'
fashioned green! $$$! Lata, J
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:10:08 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: everything
Message-ID: <199706130211.TAA01714@odin.ax.com>
> See, told you I should have kept my mouth shut...
> Some how, I have been electronically spanked.
> LOL
> DK
Welcome to the Jam!
That first attack chastisement seems to be the initiation around
here, aside from the first viewing of the notorious "Ivory Gate of
Dreams" sig. Once you've seen that, you're on your way to jamming
heaven. ;)
BLEAT!
KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets
ibanez@cyberghighway.net
"Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder,
Bork, Bork Bork!"
---Some Swede Muppet
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:29:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Yitz-say-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: anybody wanna order finneus gauge's new album?
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970612222633.4406A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
yes, you heard correctly.
orders are now UNDERWAY for the debut release of finneus's first
(and let's hope not last) album, entitled "more once more" i, for one,
am very excited about this (having seen them a great number of times) and
i cannot wait for this cd to be in my player!
so! point your browsers to: http://ghostland.com/finneus.html
and you will be among the first on your block (but not the very first) to
obtain this cd!
* * * * * * *
e-mail: syrinx@dreamt.org / syrinx@mindspring.com
erotomania!: http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/
offical lemur voice homepage:
http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur.htm
(c) 1997 Happy Fun Ball, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:03:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: JE78674@ltu.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: RUSH re-masters
Message-ID: <01IK037DD88Y8ZEFLU@LTU.EDU>
I just recently purchased the Re-master version of Power Windows. Reason
being is that I wore out my original copy.....believe it or not, CD's
can be worn down! Anyway, to be honest, there really is no difference
in the music. The Re-master just seems to play a little louder, none of
the musical texture seems to stick out any more than it did on my
original copy.
Later,
Jeff E.
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:12:34 -0700
From: Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2630
Message-ID: <33A06642.36F1@concentric.net>
Well, here's another newbie (from the same address no less!) posting his
first thing to the jam. Have to admit, you just gotta love the jam. Hear
more about great bands (Rush, FW, Savatage, RTM, the list goes on) than
you could shake a three year old at.
Now for a question that may have been asked already. No, it's not about
the new DT album. At the beginning of their latest tour, I heard an
interview with Alex Lifeson about a new live album with a bunch of
previously unreleased tracks on it. Has anyone heard about when it will
be released? I am Jonesing for this album SOOOOOOOOOOOO bad (my
apologies to all the Jonses out there). To hear songs that have been
sitting on the shelf, unheard by those of us who can merely bask in the
glow of their greatness (okay, I'm overdoing it, but hey, someone has
to), I shudder with anticipation at the thought.
One last babble . . .does anyone know how to get the official Rush
newletter? You know the one . . . The National Midnight Star. Anyway, I
figure I've babbled (and bored) you enough.
Here's a doozy of a triple bill for ya . . . DT, FW, and Rush. Any
comments?
Remember, All the world's indeed a stage!
Long live prog music!!!!
Steve Dob
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 03:41:58 +0000
From: Davidjon Sabetai <DAVIDJON@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rush Re-masters and In Defense Eternity X - minimal DTC
Message-ID: <19970613034156.AAA10045@LOCALNAME>
>I can understand why some of the older Rush albums are being re-issued as
>remasters, but why are such albums as "power windows" and "hold your fire"
>being re-issued as well. These albums were done in DDD format and sound
>extremely polished. I mean, how much better will a remastered version be?
"Big Money got a heavy hand."
>First of all, let me state my opinion on the rap question on the
>Eternity-X survey. I find it arrogant and self-righteous that people
>feel that they deserve to express their opinions of music (on the Jam, on
>IRC, whatever), but when a band, or band member, expresses their opinion,
>they are bashed. I understand that some of you will say that that is
>"unprofessional", but the fact is EVERYONE is entitled to their own
>opinion.
I think you need to review who did the bashing. Subterlage expressed an
opposing opinion about rap and the survey. Keith took it beyond a discussion
of the survey and made it an personal attack.
>Secondly, subtlerage had a (very) bad experience with Keith. You
>two didn't get off on the right foot, to say the very least. Some people
>just do NOT get along, and that is a fact of life.
I'm sorry I cannot believe that because two people have different views on
music, that they cannot get along. Most of my friends listen to either
alternative or rap. Because someone disagrees with you about rap is no
reason to flame him. I would not have many friends if that was the case.
I'll leave you guys with JP's reply to Blind Melon ripping DT.
> "I find it really weird that somebody would say that about me or
>Dream Theater because a couple of guys in the band are into Smashing
>Pumpkins, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and the like. It's just the same crap I
>heard at Berkelee, where you had the jazzers versus the rockers, who
>always argued and fought with each other. Without sounding too
>idealistic, it's all music and hopefully there is a quality in all styles
>that can reach you. Condemning another genre is something that I would
>never do. And for the record, the members of Dream Theater are
>definitely not stuffy prog-rockers who condemn songs if they're not in
>9/8 time. That's ridiculous! We're into all different styles. I listen
>to a lot of different things myself: classical music from Beethoven,
>Bartok, and Revel, jazz from cats like pianist Billy Taylor and
>non-traditional jazz from John Scofield and Mike Stern, who's a monster.
>And then I dig metal, too -- Rage Against The Machine, Metallica, Alice
>in Chains, and so on. Of course, I'm not going to say that I listen to
>everything; I don't particularly care for rap or country-pop. Then
>again, I really try to have a diverse listening palette. It helps me
>keep an open mind to music."
Taken from the FAQ. Keep up the good work D-Man. :)
Isaac
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:52:19 -0700
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: RUSH re-masters
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970612205214.0068b8d0@pop3.concentric.net>
Jeff E. wrote:
>I just recently purchased the Re-master version of Power Windows. Reason
>being is that I wore out my original copy.....believe it or not, CD's
>can be worn down!
Yeah, if you use them to sand your floor. Otherwise, forget about it.
Rick Audet
Dolby Labs
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 23:14:35 +0000
From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Ozz Fest bands
Message-ID: <199706130420.XAA05688@Walden.MO.NET>
> Hey Dale, could you let me know the order of the bands at Ozzfest if it
Eh, I'll go ahead and post this here since some others might be
interested, too. Anyway, form what I can remember, the main stage
went something like this:
Power Man 5000
Machine Head
Fear Factory
Type O Negative
Pantera
Ozzy
Sabbath
All the bands on the side stage played two short sets, so if you miss
one for a main stage show, you might be able to catch whoever again.
The side stage also started before the main stage. The main and side
stage were staggered some, but some overlap did happen. Anyway,
Downset was the last side stage act I know. I caught them twice.
Drain STH played sort of early on. If I can remember all the side
stage acts, I might be able to get an order down. I'll have to get
back on that one. Also, I don't know if they're keeping the same
order for the side stage at each show anyway. I was there mostly for
the mainstage acts (though you shouldn't miss the side stage) anyway,
since I was more familiar with them. Marilyn Manson didn't play St.
Louis, so I have no idea where they'll be on the bill for the shows
they do.
One thing about Ozzy's set. I can't remember what song it was in,
but I swear I heard the band do one of the riffs from Poweslave when
they were just jamming in the middle of a song. anybody know if I'm
right?
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:54:16 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Big Mouth
Message-ID: <412564B5.002AE0A0.00@oslo1.provida.no>
I wrote:
>> Andrew and Matthew it's too fucking late for your sorry asses to
apologize,
>> the word is out ......
The Digital Man and some other jammers wrote:
>It's never too late to apologize. It shows a far greater level of
>maturity than you just did.
What I ment was: It's NEVER too late to apologize, but the damage is
already done. So i should have expressed myself more clearly, but the moral
of the story is: Think before act. (actually I didn't when i wrote those
two lines ..... :o
-.profile
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:07:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thezbianz <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Big Mouths
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970612235958.36434C-100000@dante27.u.washington.edu>
> From: gra@provida.no
> Subject: Big Mouth
>
> I've been paying some attention to the Eternity-X thread, and it seems
> like Keith isn't the only guy who didn't think before Send. It looks
> like Andrew and Matthew or whoever released a private mail on the jam
> didn't think of the consequences ....
An obsession with memories can lead to a life of living in the past. If a
constant measurement of life's possible consequences guides your actions,
the Court of Reality can only hereby conclude that you're living in the
future. Stop it.
> Andrew and Matthew it's too fucking late for your sorry asses to
> apologize, the word is out ......
>
> -.profile
Viva Ytsejam!! No apologies, just war!! Where's Ptacek when we need him?!
---- > From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> > Subject: Re: Big Mouth > > It's never too late to apologize. It shows a far greater level of > maturity than you just did.Hey D-Man, I'm sorry I didn't send you a get well card.
---- > From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> > Subject: Re: Big Mouth > > it's called class. when people with class realize they've done > something inappropriate, they apologize. people without class casually > swear in public forums at inappropriate times. get the picture, > fucknut?
If I didn't have class I could work full-time. But to present a glaring contradiction in your "no class = casual swearing in public forums" example, attending lectures rarely inhibits me from swearing aloud. Usually I time it so that in-between slides, during that precious quarter-second when the entire room is pitch black, I cup my hands and blast a real good one up to the ceiling so that no one can pinpoint the source of the chaos.
"In this next slide we see---"
*CLICK* "PEEPEE!!"
"An example of the ornate rokoko style found during the--"
---- > From: Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net> > Subject: this whole thing... > > OK, I am new to the jam, maybe I should keep my mouth closed, but...
"Speak the word. The word is all of us." --Queensryche
---- > From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> > Subject: Re: this whole thing... > > Wow, a good post from a newbie. Someone mark the time and date.
Wow, a good post from D-MAN HAHAHAHAHAHA BREAK OUT THE CHAMPAGNE. :)
> Perhaps without being overt or obvious, I think this whole fiasco has > highlighted one of the reasons we all like Dream Theater: they respect > us.
If they respect us so much, then why'd they fire Dominici?
> I doubt any of us will ever receive e-mail from Mike, for instance, > saying "You call yourself a musician and you don't like Zappa??" > They're bigger people than that.
Actually he *stopped* e-mailing me when I suggested that he strap bungee cords to his drumkit and bounce around during his solo. Something about "you're the sort of fan I keep at a distance with a cattle-prod" etc.
Well I just got back from seeing "Chasing Amy," and whether you're heterosexual or homosexual or hydroskeptical you really oughta go see this movie. Some really thundering truths and powerful performances. At one point I found myself checking my wrist for a pulse. Bonus laughs if you're a comics fanatic. ;)
Here's where I announce my unsubscription. Saturday at high noon I'm a German luxury vehicle with a bunch of interlocked hoops on the grill.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 02:29:03 -0600 From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: PG, Actual DTC Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970613022903.0068aa70@autobahn.mb.ca>
>That guy with Savatage stuff in his .sig wrote: >> >Also, does anyone have reviews for Finnues Gauge(sp?). Do they sound >> God, I really hope you don't mean Phineas Gage...But before I go any >> further, I gotta know if it's the same band I'm thinking of. Where are they >> from? >> Yeah - Phineas Gage...the guy who lived with a rod through his skull for 7 >> years. Sounds like a pile of crap, but apparently a true story. >No, I meant the FG that is formed by the keyboardist of Echylon. But I >now have a new question was the rod fully in his head or was it sticking >out? ;-) > That would be me who posted that. And it's my understanding is that the rod was sticking out of his skull. Anyways thanx to this lady for posting the story:
>A little fun fact for ya all, although someone touched upon it in jam = >#2628...Finneus Gauge (or maybe the guy's name was spelled Phinaeus or = >something...i dunno...but ANYWAY, Gauge was a charge "setter" of some = >sort: he would put charges of dynamite in stone blocks and blow the shit = >out of 'em. So, one time, he was planting the charge, and *BOOM!* the = >thing goes off. Now, the rod that contained the dynamite shot out of = >the cement going like a billion MPH, and went straight through Gauge's = >skull, taking the center portion of his brain (called the limbic system = >-- it controls primal urges and some memory) with it. The crazy thing = >is, Gauge lived! So, he went through life lacking the primal urges that = >so many of us take for granted! Hope it was as entertaining for you as = >it was for me when I learned this story. =20 > It was my understanding that it was stuck in his skull...sticking out both sides. I may be wrong, but it's what I was told by a local guy here who's band is also called Phineas Gage and has been for like 5 years or so.
>NEW YORK CITY (AP) - John Petrucci (guitar player for the musical >quintet "Dream Theatre") has been suspended from recording for 2 > Theater...not Theatre. (See the FAQ). As for the rest of this...what are you on, bud? :-)
L8r
======================================================== A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic. ~ Josef Stalin ========================================================
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 03:34:46 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Big Mouths Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970613032800.605B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Steve Borzilleri wrote:
> > It's never too late to apologize. It shows a far greater level of > > maturity than you just did. > > Hey D-Man, I'm sorry I didn't send you a get well card.
Aww, I love you, Bafu.
> Actually he *stopped* e-mailing me when I suggested that he strap bungee > cords to his drumkit and bounce around during his solo. Something about > "you're the sort of fan I keep at a distance with a cattle-prod" etc.
Ah, so Mike and JP have finally gotten around to trading notes about us all. :) The phrases "Guitar Center" and "I have a videotape of you playing it at NAMM" come to mind. :)
> Here's where I announce my unsubscription. Saturday at high noon I'm a > German luxury vehicle with a bunch of interlocked hoops on the grill.
Bafu, my friend, have a safe trip back to the Right Coast in that pimpmobile of yours.
And don't leave those interlocked hoops on the grill too long. They taste *lousy* if you overcook them.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 03:44:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: invitation Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970613032731.10571A-100000@unix21.andrew.cmu.edu>
hey there. just wanted to invite everyone to drop by my band's homepage at http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html. There are some new soundfiles there in RA format so they're much less cumbersome than they used to be. if you're inclined to hear some new music, please drop by.
-maximilian
Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 01:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: MOIST creature Message-ID: <199706130840.BAA05037@odin.ax.com>
>I see that the new album 'Creature' by the Canadian band Moist is out. Do any >of you moose-trapping jammers have any comments on it? I think it's now on >release in Europe.
Yes, it's been out for a while now. It's a good album of course (I mean, anything from Moist would have to be good, right?). Not as good as Silver, though, but in the same vein.
oOo If a man could pass through Paradise in a dream, and have a flower presented to him as a pledge that his soul had really been there, and if he found that flower in his hand when he awoke - Aye, and what then? oOo Niklas
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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:19:14 -0500 From: wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: QR openers(giving an unknown band a shot) Message-ID: <199706131119.GAA02960@tddpd22.tddeng00.fnts.com>
Buck Stodgers wrote:
I think it was a result of no other band wanting to commit to opening for them. Its pretty slim pickins out there this summer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I was one of the lucky few to be invited to attend the recent Queensryche Secret Desert show, that was held about 55 miles north of Socorro, New Mexico (yes, right in the middle of nowhere) on the site of the worlds largest radio telescope array, where we snoop on ET's. In the interview prior to the show, Chris DeGarmo was asked about possible supporting acts for the upcoming tour, and he replied that local bands would be opening the shows because QR felt that it was "time to give something back" - give some young bands a break, as QR were the "unknowns" at one time. I really doubt that there was a lack of more established acts wanting to get on the bill with QR.
BTW, the show rocked! It was broadcast on 150 FM stations across the country, but the radio audience only heard the first hour of the show. After that QR played for another 1 1/2 hours! The new HitNF stuff sounded great live - it was cool to see DeGarmo playing slide guitar and using the talk box. Wilton was awesome. It was great to hear the sounds coming from discrete speaker cabinets, and not all blended into a PA system, so we could tell *exactly* who was playing what! All in all, it was an experience that I will never forget! :)
Wade
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