YTSEJAM Digest 2637
Today's Topics:
1) Heartache
by gra@provida.no
2) Re: Good idea
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
3) Whoa!!
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
4) YTSEJAM digest 2632
by Christophe Thomas <Christophe.Thomas@bull.net>
5) YTSEJAM digest 2633
by Christophe Thomas <Christophe.Thomas@bull.net>
6) YTSEJAM digest 2634
by Christophe Thomas <Christophe.Thomas@bull.net>
7) DT show list again
by Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
8) Blind Guardian boot help from Japan?
by Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
9) trustworthy traders
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
10) Re: JOKE! (ndtc)
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
11) Charlie/ Kev/
by Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se>
12) THEY TOOK OUR BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
13) Symphony X confusion...
by Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
14) Re: Symphony X confusion...
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
15) Reflections of reality
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
16) rediscoveries
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
17) License plates..
by nightcast@usa.net
18) Re: rediscoveries
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:42:24 +0100
From: gra@provida.no
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Heartache
Message-ID: <412564B8.002EEF4E.00@oslo1.provida.no>
"Richard Karsmakers" wrote (in agony?):
> This is a message about love. Don't ask me why I send it to the Ytsejam,
but
>you're a bunch of people that I feel most closely related/associated with.
> My girlfriend, with whom I've been really mindbogglingly serious for the
past
>hree years, is thinking of dumping me because she doesn't think she loves
me
and so on ....
If you relate so much to digital friends you might have a communication
problem with your GF.
Try to TALK to her. If she's not a bithead she might not wanna hear 'bout
computers, web, modem blah blah...
Take her to a fine restaurant, listen to what SHE has to say, don't
interrupt her while she talks. Be a gent ....
I'm not implying that you are a bithead, but you're the one who spills your
guts to a maillist :)
-.profile
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 02:52:36 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Good idea
Message-ID: <33A4F0C4.59C9@auburn.net>
> Has anyone ever thought og selling YTSEJAM license plates. I think that'd
> be cool if you happen to pass another ytse-jammer on the road.
Next month, when it's time to renew my tag, and since Alabama issues the
new style of licence plates this year, I figure "YTSEVAN" would look
good on the back of my Voyager.
That way there'll be no questioning whether some asshole really drove
all that way to Birch Hill just to see a stupid concert :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 01:07:00 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whoa!!
Message-ID: <199706160807.BAA26369@goodnet.com>
Looks like Melissa's been busy lately!! :) (So _that_ explains why
the VCRs are always tied up and I can't play Mario Kart 64 while my CDs
burn... I was kinda wondering.) Well, she's all excited and bouncing off
the walls and giggly and stuff, so I assume your responses to her have
been suitably tremendous. I can't wait for Ytsecon IV to hang out with
everyone again!!
OK, time for more "for sale" miscellaneous stuff. I am selling
this stuff because I have duplicates of it, or in the case of the CM CDs,
as detailed below.
CD - Tori Amos "Silent All These Years" Limited Edition.
Yup, the impossible-to-find rarest-Tori-disc-ever. Gatefold. $90
CD - Tori Amos "Y Can't Tori Read" from Chance (boot replica) w/bonuses
Tori's first "album" with the Mr. Mister & GNR guys. Mint. $35
CD - Dream Theater "Stranger than Fiction" bootleg, single disc.
Contains mainly stuff that was on Subconscious. $30
CD - Rush "Critical Mass" (5 available) - Un-numbered! See below. $50
When I ordered the print run, they included a number of extra
discs as defective-replacements. Since the print run is sold out
now and I've shipped virtually every disc, it's safe to sell the
remaining def-rep discs (which are in mint condition) at the
original price to those of you who waited until the eleventh
hour (hell, it's past the 12th hour now!!) or weren't on the
Jam in time to order it earlier.
OK, that about covers it. It took... oh... 20 minutes to sell out
of the stuff the last time I had a sale, so this should be easy. :)
You have two 1-gallon jugs of water. You have a 2-gallon tub. How could
you get the water from the jugs into the tub, without using dividers or
any such thing, and still be able to tell which water came from which jug?
Thanks to everyone for supporting me and Melissa's humble
projects. I've seen the video montage several times now after the fact,
and it's a leap and bound better than the Rush one in quality.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:02:23 +0100
From: Christophe Thomas <Christophe.Thomas@bull.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2632
Message-ID: <0039600000123433000002L032*@MHS>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:02:24 +0100
From: Christophe Thomas <Christophe.Thomas@bull.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2633
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:02:24 +0100
From: Christophe Thomas <Christophe.Thomas@bull.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 2634
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 12:36:55 +0200
From: Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT show list again
Message-ID: <9706161036.AA23210@zeusa1.desy.de>
Ok I didn't know Scott was working on his super secret project for the
tour master list *grin*. So people don't need to send me comments
anymore. Thanks to the people that already did though.
Jason
P.S. Check out the Blind Guardian Fan Club web page at:
http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg/music/bg/bgfc.html
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR------------------------------
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 12:43:39 +0200 From: Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Blind Guardian boot help from Japan? Message-ID: <9706161043.AA23224@zeusa1.desy.de>
Hi all,
This is basically to anyone out there in Japan (Keiji maybe *grin*). I want to get the Blind Guardian bootleg called "Live in Japan 95". It is from the Imaginations tour and recorded in Osaka. Does anyone know where I can get this? Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: trustworthy traders Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970616094548.24121D-100000@reagan.mcl.bdm.com>
some jammers wrote: >> Hey folks, I meant to mention this a couple days ago and forgot. >> I know a lot of CD/Tape trading/purchasing goes on here, and occasionally >> we here about someone getting ripped off. > > Well, all I have to say is that the best traders that I have found >were from the Ytsejam. And I have a lot of trades going on right now... >For instance: Chung Ng, Andrew Forcier, Mark Peters among others (I should >really not list names because I'll forget some, but I simply couldn't >resist).
Well, I've only been ripped off by Jammers. I think anyone who was trading at the time of Jeremy Haynes (aka Sue Moscardini) got ripped off by him/her. Of course I am one of the two people who have been ripped off by Al Balkewicz.
The main fact is that I have only been ripped off by people on this list the Jam.
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:54:17 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: JOKE! (ndtc) Message-ID: <33A54589.198F@caribe.net>
Scott Cook wrote: > > HA! GOTCHA! :-) > > On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:14:45 -0700 (PDT) eckie@asu.edu writes: > > >And Puerto Rico is not officially part of the United States, is it? > > Well, I'd answer that but I don't want to ruffle any feathers, so email > me personally and I'll tell ya! :)
well..me being there... i can tell ya... were part of the US in a sense..but were not officially a state.We're "territory" of the US..
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 16:08:09 +0200 From: Henrik Gustafsson <henrik@thn.htu.se> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Charlie/ Kev/ Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970616160809.005ed648@thn.htu.se>
At 07:56 1997-06-13 -0700, you wrote: >Howdy buckaroos, > >>If they respect us so much, then why'd they fire Dominici?
Hi gang Do any of you know what Charlie is up to these days. I haven't heard a thing from him since WDADU. Well I know some of you didn't really appreciate his doings, but he helped me experience a group called Dream Theater, which I love, so he's all part of that. I found nothing in the FAQ.
Second, any _ANY_ news at all about the ChromaKey CD ? A rumour said the beginning of June, which just passed, so I don't know. Please help!
My not-so-brand new I&W T-shirt helped me to find some DT fans in Hultsfred this weekend. Big HI to you, if you're jammers.=20 To the rest of you, going to an European fesitival, check out Ela:kela:iset from Finland. No prog, but odd and a lot of Humppa, indeed !!!
Take care in the sunlight /// henrik
=20
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Henrik Gustafsson H=F6gskolan Trollh=E4ttan/Uddevalla +46 (0)520 - 47 50 49 /fax -99
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:09:17 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: THEY TOOK OUR BEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <199706161408.AA29550@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, Well, the subject says it all. Five minutes into our tailgate at Ozzfest, the fascist security forces of the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority relieved us of all 36 of our beers. My two friends and I were forced to resort to hobo-like activities of asking others to help us out. Yet another reason New Jersey sucks: people refused to help us out. It's not that I'm dependent on alcohol, I just need it to have a good time. :P Then the bastards started the show early, so I missed part of Fear Factory's set. We also missed part of Type-O's set because we were stupid enough to go to the insipid Never-Never Land fair thingy. The second stage acts sucked, though I was never really paying much attention to them. Manson sucked too. I almost wished they had lost the court battle, but then Pantera wouldn't have been there either. If anyone wants more details, let me know. I found out that the publishing program on my PC makes J-cards for tapes! I spent last week trying to get DT graphics off the net (thanks again D-Man!) to use on them. They came out pretty cool. From now own I can just use those when I do trades and not have to write it all out. Woo-hoo! Someone mentioned Tunnel Records had DOE. I thought that this place was one to stay away from. Was I right? That same person said they had been waiting three months for their discs, so it would seem that way. Dontcha love how Skadz disappears for months, then comes back in a flurry of short posts...:) Still waiting for someone's opinion of the sound quality change on the Rush Signals remaster. Anyone, anyone? Bueller? :) Mr. Bahr: Should I beg you to make that Megadeth show into a Prism production or would a simple "pretty please" do the trick? :)
>Mercury can blow me.
Taunting the Gods with your sexual advances D-Man? -- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com *************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:17:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net> To: DT Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Symphony X confusion... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970616090536.2370B-100000@scc.net>
Okay, I know that "Damnation Game" was released in 1995. But what I don't know is when "Symphony X' was released. On the back of my CD case, it says (c) 1996, and yet on the inside it says: All songs (c) 1994. Hopefully it was merely re-released in 1996.
I'm asking this because I'm deciding whether or not to get "Divine Wings" and I don't know if the band is on an upswing or a downswing from their first two releases.
See, "The Damnation Game" kicked me so hard in the stomach, I now have a calostomy(sp?) bag, and at the same time, "Symphony X" sucked harder than a Hoover.
Please tell me their self-titled came first so I can go forth and buy "Divine Wings" in full confidence that their sucky singer days are over.
Just to make sure, on "Symphony X", their singer was Rod Tyler while on Damnation Game, it's Russell Allen. I don't want to make it seem like it was ALL Rod Tyler's fault that "Symphony X" blew, it did have some pretty bad production too.
Later guys, and I WANT NEW DT FOR CHRISTMAS!!!!!
- Dr. Teeth (Back from the grave)
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 00:20:06 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Symphony X confusion... Message-ID: <199706161520.AAA12145@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
Alright! Here's their complete album list. (excluding their related materials)
1.Symphony X (1994-12-07) 2.The damnation Game (1995-08-23) 3.The Devine Wings Of Tragedy (1996-11-13)
Thanks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara $B!!(BDoshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 15:43:06 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Reflections of reality Message-ID: <33A55F0A.3A95@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Buckyball promoted the following free electrons:
>>The Purple Oz Fest Tag Team Concert
>Great post! :) But not fair inviting people who didn't actually play >together on albums (Satch and Kirk; does Kirk even play on albums? :P). >And you forgot that Satch played with Mick Jagger, so there's a whole >Stones connection to be made too. :)
I wonder if Kevin Bacon had anything to do with this. :) Oops, wrong sport...
Proving he is indeed the wack-meister, Brian cranked out another speedball, caught his breath, then wrote:
> Punching cymbals.
That would fit in well with Mike's appreciation for boxing. He could put on the gloves for some of the softer tunes :)
> Korg: > Before the last bit of Pepsi is gone from the bottom of a 2-Liter > bottle, I seal it up and shake it severely. After that I remove the > cap and suck the carbonation out as quickly as possible giving me a > brief 5 second lightheaded "high."
Carefull, this could lead to more dangerous things, like Schweppervessance :)
> Dave: > I [Buster] sent a check, he sent a CD. I got my CD from Jon within 4 days > of contacting him!!!
And the check is no longer in the mail!!!! Thanks, Dave :)
George, I'll get over this week to Strawbs check on Sweet Evil for ya, and to see if they still have that annoying "New DT Release in July" sign :)
JP -- *------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
** Do you smoke after sex? ** Dunno. Never looked........
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:57:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: rediscoveries Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970616115138.29549A-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Coupla real cool EOJ's lately, the fates .sig, up again from the ashes, and then an old-school announcement from someone bearing the last name "Bahr"......
anyways......coupla of old disks I've semi-rediscovered/uncovered, one of my own, and another belonging to someone else, that I may have to pick up for myself....
The second one is Depech MOde's Violater......techno'ey stuff, but reall cool trancey stuff in there, surprised to see i still remember the words to "policy of truth" (never again is what you swore the time before)
The first: a Pete Townsend offering, the rock musical "Iron Man" There's this son gon there called DIG that I'd heard when townsend first released it, and I picked the CD up way back when on the strength of that single remembrance alone.....but there's other fun songs on there....one called "I eat heavy metal" where the character starts talking about "nitro-demitasse"
You have either one of these in your collection, I say it'd be worth a spin, dredge up some old, hopefully good memories......
Partha
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:03:58 From: nightcast@usa.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: License plates.. Message-ID: <ww01-BFPqD72365@netaddress.usa.net>
My Utah License Plates read plainly enough "YTSEJAM."
And I have met a couple people because of them. They rule. :)
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:28:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: rediscoveries Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970616122318.19455B-100000@mariner.cris.com>
On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote:
> anyways......coupla of old disks I've semi-rediscovered/uncovered, one of > my own, and another belonging to someone else, that I may have to pick up > for myself.... > > The second one is Depech MOde's Violater......techno'ey stuff, but reall > cool trancey stuff in there, surprised to see i still remember the words > to "policy of truth" (never again is what you swore the time before)
Excellent album indeed. Back when I *was* a closed-minded metalhead I used to think Depeche Mode sucked hard ass. Then I started to open up to new music (new to me) and found that I really was able to enjoy their stuff (some of it, at least.) My personal DM recommendation is their follow-up to "Violator" called "Faith and Devotion" (or something to that effect.) That album is absolutely *amazing*. Maybe I could do an Iparty broadcast for those who might like a taste. Please, let me know.
Listen with an open mind.
Rick Audet Dolby Labs
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