YTSEJAM Digest 2636
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Skadz's Bitch of the Day ....
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Dream Theater food topic re-visited
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
3) DT TRIBUTE BAND
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
4) Oops!!!
by Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net>
5) Encouragement sought (totally NDTC)
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
6) Re: Awake questionaire
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
7) Re: CD Reviews (FNM & M'Deth) -- NDTC
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
8) NEW Testament coming out soon... (NDTC)
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
9) Re: Bahr family Video Montage
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
10) Dance Of Eternity
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
11) DT gigs
by curth@execpc.com
12) Attn: Mike Bradley
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
13) DT Tour Master List Comments?
by Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
14) FS: King Crimson "Epitaph" 2CD
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
15) New Megadeth
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
16) Good Idea
by image@bbs.cpcn.com (YtsE JaMMeR)
17) fates in cal.
by "Stephanie Chi" <stephchi@hotmail.com>
18) prog list?
by sinkdrain@juno.com (sinkdraiN x X)
19) Re: prog list?
by eckie@asu.edu
20) QR show on June 25
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
21) JOKE! (ndtc)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 02:55:22 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Skadz's Bitch of the Day ....
Message-ID: <199706150955.CAA18141@gms.gmsnet.com>
On the Eve of Destruction, "Ryan P. Skadberg" said:
>Hey All ...
>
> No more jokes to the list please. Join one of the big joke
>mailing lists out there if you want jokes, but don't post them to the
>jam.
>
>Thanks
>Skadz
>Ytsejam Moderator
Ooooo... Skadz is flexing his muscles again!! heheheh
But seriously.. we probably don't need the jokes...
-The Doc
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 16:40:02 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dream Theater food topic re-visited Message-ID: <199706151357.QAA17212@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
> "Lines in the Sand". Not a live version or anything, this was the
So we're finally getting a chance to talk about connections between Dream Theater and food.
Such as "Limes In The Sand".
:-)
Raitz
Raitz
Don't get too comfortable, this place is popular.
The Gentle Wolf
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 10:53:19 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DT TRIBUTE BAND Message-ID: <33A401DF.2BD4@caribe.net>
have you guys ever seen,heard this band called Images and Words?
check out their website.. it seems that the band knows aboutit..theres a pic with JP and their guitar player in a show (iguess)
http://www.vivanet.com/~rdellapi/iw/index.htm
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"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 14:49:06 -0700 From: Deidre Killam <Brachett@concentric.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oops!!! Message-ID: <33A311D1.7963DA96@concentric.net>
I feel so rude. I had nothing to do with it, I promise. Some one was nice enough to e-mail me the new DT song, and I got it, and then my puter had an attitude problem. First, Netscape hiccuped, then Windows packed the Uhaul and left the state. So, I lost the address and name of that Saint who sent it to me, not once, but twice. Who ever it was, thank you, I got it the second time. I owe you, all that. DK
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 97 16:14:06 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Encouragement sought (totally NDTC) Message-ID: <M.061597.181406.40@wxs1-14.worldaccess.nl>
This is a message about love. Don't ask me why I send it to the Ytsejam, but you're a bunch of people that I feel most closely related/associated with. My girlfriend, with whom I've been really mindbogglingly serious for the past three years, is thinking of dumping me because she doesn't think she loves me enough; she want to the UK for six weeks and found out she didn't miss me as much as perhaps she should've (doesn't sound unlogical to me, as she was constantly occupied with a lot of people and seeing the sights, etc.). I am in serious need of some pep talk or I'll go nuts. We're not seeing each other for the whole coming week, which is unprecedented except for those six weeks in the UK, as we usually spent almost every night together. We almost lived together, only in two separate student 'dorms' (mixed). There is no other man involved. She says she still loves me. What should I do, whilst still maintaining my distance and given her space and time to breathe and think things over? Thanks for your time. Sorry for the NDTC.
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:30:54 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Awake questionaire Message-ID: <v01520d01afc98f7f0785@[207.90.116.117]>
> And my earlier question about the survey card that > was includedinside the Awake CD never did get answered. > Any info, anyone?
I doubt they ever did anything with those...especially as far as putting together a setlist. I never got any sort fo response from my sent in questionaire...
i should have kept it for that cool b/w photo...
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:30:58 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: CD Reviews (FNM & M'Deth) -- NDTC Message-ID: <v01520d02afc98ffe255e@[207.90.116.117]>
>1. Faith No More.. Need I say more?? How is this? Is it okay >or does it rock?? I don't want to pick up an album that sucks...
The new FNM "album of the year" is awesome!!!! IMO, of course. You're going to get a lot of mixed response to this one, but I absolutley love it. I wasn't too keen on KFADFFAL, so I didn't know what to expect with this one...all I can say is Mike Patton has one of the best voices out there. There are some great jems on this CD. I love the whole first half up to #7 a bunch, and the latter part is pretty damn good too...
>2. Megadeth... I wasn't really into these guys for a long time >but I pulled out a couple of the CD's the other day and realized >that I missed all the teeth gritting stuff.
Supposed to come out Tuesday!!! Wohoo!!
I've heard two songs- "She Wolf" and "Disintegrators" from a "free" CD that I got with a comic...actually I *only* bought the comic for the CD...
Heavy stuff. I also hear there's some varied stuff on the album. I haven't heard the single "Trust" yet. My radio station in town plays it on regular rotation (according to a friend who's heard it 3 times), but I hardly ever listen to radio anymore...
Tuesday Best Buy will have "Cryptic Writings" for only $11.99...can't beat that.
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: NEW Testament coming out soon... (NDTC) Message-ID: <v01520d03afc991757d92@[207.90.116.117]>
Someone asked what new CDs are coming out...
I forgot...
Testament's "Demonic" CD comes out on Burnt Offerings on June 24th (a week plus 2 days)...
Gene Hoglan (ex-Death) on drums in the studio. No James Murphy, but I've heard that the guitars are heavy on this one...sort of a continuation of "Low" but heavier...
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 12:39:21 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Bahr family Video Montage Message-ID: <v01520d04afc9928bbecd@[207.90.116.117]>
>PROGRESSIVE VIDEO MONTAGE SETLIST >================================= >Megadeth / Train of Consequences >Tori Amos / Cornflake Girl >Galactic Cowboys / If I Were A Killer >I Mother Earth / So Gently We Go >Queensryche / Bridge >Megadeth / Peace Sells >King's X / Manic Depression - also from W94 >Tori Amos / Caught a Lite Sneeze >Dream Theater / Lie >King's X / It's Love >Queensryche / Take Hold of the Flame - PAL conversion >Dream Theater / The Silent Man - PAL conversion >King's X / We Are Finding Who We Are >Two bonus videos, just for fun. :)
(a bunch of others snipped...)
Whoa!! This is gonna rule!! If not for the two hardly ever seen DT ones alone!!
Now if only I could get my Preciious Things #70 in the mail soon...hint, hint...seeing as I should've gotten it by now...sheeesh...
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 15:59:36 -0400 From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com> To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dance Of Eternity Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970615195936Z-12602@carrier.btrd.bostontechnology.com>
>> 2CD Dream Theater The Dance of Eternity N.Y.C. March 4 93 >> WYNOT WOT 2014 $34.00
I saw this posting from Tunnel records (tunnelrecs@AOL.com) and am posting it as a public service announcement. This CD is great and the price is relatively cheap. Now, if I could just get them to send me my copy of "Uncovered" that I ordered in March .......
Later, Mark Metzger mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 16:09:57 -0500 (CDT) From: curth@execpc.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT gigs Message-ID: <199706152109.QAA13108@mail.execpc.com>
Mr. Breitweg stated: >I have copied the list of all DT shows from a web page somewhere. It >was kind of out dates so I added the recent shows. If any of you has >time could you please check it out and see if there are any errors >with places or dates or opening acts. With all us jammers there must >have been at least one of us at just about every show *grin*.
Instead of emailing Jason privately, I figured most of you would be interested in knowing that I do have a complete list of every single gig that DT has played (including all the Chris Collins and Charlie gigs). This info came directly from Mike P as I'm working on a project for the official web page that lists every gig they've played *including* the setlist!! While I have everything all set to go, there are a few things that I want Mike to clear up before I send the final list to Jeff Chew to format for the web page (which is gonna be quite time consuming). This will take a while since Mike is busy in the studio as we all are well aware of. However if anyone wants a list of the dates (no setlists at this point - I wanna make sure *everything* is correct), I can send you that. Anyone interested email me.
Scott Hansen curth@execpc.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:59:29 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Attn: Mike Bradley Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970615175853.1510B-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
Mike: E-mail me if you still have an account for the summer.
Sorry for the clutter, jammers. -d
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 97 01:04:26 +0200 From: Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: mmetzger@bostech.com Subject: DT Tour Master List Comments? Message-ID: <9706152304.AA20621@zeusa1.desy.de>
I have copied the list of all DT shows from a web page somewhere. It was kind of out dates so I added the recent shows. If any of you has time could you please check it out and see if there are any errors with places or dates or opening acts. With all us jammers there must have been at least one of us at just about every show *grin*.
The file is at:
http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg/music/dtshows.txt
E-mail me with any comments.
Jason
P.S. I posted this before but I had the wrong URL above. Nwo it is correct and should work. Thanks Mark *grin*.
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: FS: King Crimson "Epitaph" 2CD Message-ID: <v01520d00afc9cd9f6e8e@[207.90.116.117]>
I've got a 2 CD set of King Crimson. Epitaph Vol 1&2 (Live)
$12...ppd.
Email me if interested.
Dan
---+ +--- Dan Temmesfeld - mailto:dantemm@erinet.com "Home of the Galactic Cowboys Pages" http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm Summer 1997 Update site: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/1853/ ---+ +---
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:32:17 -0300 From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1) To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: New Megadeth Message-ID: <19970616013728.AAA27440@alexis1>
I really don't understand this, but I already got the new Megadeth from a record store. I got it on Saturday, June 14. And I live in Puerto Rico, which is part of the U.S. I don't get it, but, hey, I won't argue. It rules. In addition, I'm listening right now to the live broadcast of their concert from Friday night. It's still archived if you want to listen to it. You can go to where it's at from the Megadeth page. I forgot the address, but I know other people have posted it. By the way, doesn't the soloing on She-Wolf (the end of the song) remind anybody of Iron Maiden? It sure does sound like Maiden to me. Well, that's it. Buy the new Megadeth if you can. Bye!
Alexis
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 22:12:36 -0400 From: image@bbs.cpcn.com (YtsE JaMMeR) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Good Idea Message-ID: <199706160212.WAA17553@bbs.cpcn.com>
Just an Idea.
Has anyone ever thought og selling YTSEJAM license plates. I think that'd be cool if you happen to pass another ytse-jammer on the road.
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:44:04 PDT From: "Stephanie Chi" <stephchi@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: fates in cal. Message-ID: <199706160344.UAA16217@f28.hotmail.com>
Fates Warning is playing in Corona, CA Thurs. July 24
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:16:22 EDT From: sinkdrain@juno.com (sinkdraiN x X) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: prog list? Message-ID: <19970616.001904.9647.0.sinkdraiN@juno.com>
jammers-
I hear a lot about groups like Seige's Even, Helstar, Eldritch, and Watch Tower. They are such a taunt because I hear everyone talking about them but they are IMPOSSIBLE to find. My prog collection consists of masters like Dream Theater, Echolyn, Enchant, Altura, Rush, Kansas, Marrilion, Fates Warning, Damn The Machine, Queensryche, and Savatage. These are all bands that one could walk into any cd store and find or ospecial order. While I am out looking for the "hard to find" groups I would like it if someone would give me some names of Prog groups that are fairly easy to find (other than the ones I just mentioned). Please give me some names.....I am hungry for prog! I just ordered Shadowgate "carved in stone" from Tower Rec. I read that a music critic said, " the greatest progressive album that Dream Theater and Queensryche never put out!" I will have to see about that one...thats a bold statement.
I will be forever grateful for you input
~sinkdraiN
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:01:20 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: prog list? Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970615225323.17761A-100000@general1.asu.edu>
Yeah, here's a prog album:
Metallica: ...And Justice for All!!! Sorry, I'm playin' Quake with that disk tonight...it kicks ass. After I finish the first episode I'm goin' back to Megadeth though....
And Puerto Rico is not officially part of the United States, is it? We have like, a "half-rule" over that island, or I'm just extreemly rusty on my history? What do I know, I'm just a white boy who likes heavy progressive metal. :)
Back to point one though, if that album isn't progressive, I dunno WHAT is...and yes, you sarcastics sons of bitches, I DO have all the DT releases and (soon to be) 3 bootlegs, a Fates Warning, and a couple Savatage albums! :P
Sorry, I had to diffuse THAT remark before 50 responses and a thread started about "Metallica isn't prog, it's alternacrap" and "Well, he really DOESN'T know what prog is, does he?" Or even WORSE! "It's not PROG, it's only PROGRESSIVE!" Could somebody please tell me what the fuckin' difference is between prog and progressive???
Is it like, "trash" is to "thrash"?
Dream Theater rules!
~Eckie
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, sinkdraiN x X wrote:
> jammers- > > I hear a lot about groups like Seige's Even, Helstar, Eldritch, > and Watch Tower. They are such a taunt because I hear everyone talking > about them but they are IMPOSSIBLE to find. My prog collection consists > of masters like Dream Theater, Echolyn, Enchant, Altura, Rush, Kansas, > Marrilion, Fates Warning, Damn The Machine, Queensryche, and Savatage. > These are all bands that one could walk into any cd store and find or > ospecial order. While I am out looking for the "hard to find" groups I > would like it if someone would give me some names of Prog groups that are > fairly easy to find (other than the ones I just mentioned). Please give > me some names.....I am hungry for prog! > I just ordered Shadowgate "carved in stone" from Tower Rec. I > read that a music critic said, " the greatest progressive album that > Dream Theater and Queensryche never put out!" I will have to see about > that one...thats a bold statement. > > I will be forever grateful for you input > > ~sinkdraiN >
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:56:17 -0700 From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: QR show on June 25 Message-ID: <19970615.235619.3894.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Hay Jammerz!
If anyone is going to Queensryche at Irvine Meadows on June 25th, which by the way is also my 35th birthday, maybe we could hook up at the show.
Scott ******************************************************************************************* There was an old lady who lived in a shoe. She had so many kids, her uteris fell out. - Dice ******************************************************************************************
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:53:41 -0700 From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: JOKE! (ndtc) Message-ID: <19970615.235619.3894.0.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
HA! GOTCHA! :-)
On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:14:45 -0700 (PDT) eckie@asu.edu writes:
>And Puerto Rico is not officially part of the United States, is it?
Well, I'd answer that but I don't want to ruffle any feathers, so email me personally and I'll tell ya! :)
>PROG, it's only PROGRESSIVE!" Could somebody please tell me what the >fuckin' difference is between prog and progressive???
I could, but then I'd have to kill you. ;-)
>Is it like, "trash" is to "thrash"?
or flame is to Eternity-X? ;-)
>Dream Theater rules!
Is that anything like the Jordan Rules? ;-)
Scott (who's really in a scarcastic mood tonight)
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