YTSEJAM Digest 2645
Today's Topics:
1) The Derek Factor
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2644
by Tree501307@aol.com
3) Ozzy
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
4) The Late, Great RR
by wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
5) Re: Mindbenders and string benders
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
6) Die Eyre Von Satan
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
7) Re: Iron Maiden and Rhoads/Satriani/Vai
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
8) Re: The Late, Great RR
by Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
9) Re: Opinions
by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
10) FATES WARNING - FIRST U.S. DATE
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
11) Randy Rhoads
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
12) Angra
by "Davide" <dada@iname.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2644
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
14) are all dead people geniuses?
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
15) talk about Vai and Satriani
by "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:54:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Derek Factor
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970617144800.5489F-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
I promised myself that I wouldn't contribute to this, but this post struck
me as one to reply to.
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Lars Hellsten wrote:
> I'm disappointed at the way DT's music is becoming more "ugly" sounding,
> and I fear they're moving towards a more commercial and contemporary style
> of songwriting, we'll never again see songs as complex and intricate as TTT
You've mentioned two different things here. I agree that the band is
starting to move in a different direction, and I'd venture to guess that
part of the reason for that is playing with a new musician. But to say
that we'll never again see a TTT-type song, I think, is jumping the gun a
bit. John, John, Mike, and James are still the same people. Don't
forget: we ain't heard Metropolis II yet.
> not just about the sound either, they've changed their style. Songs that
> were recorded during the Awake sessions but written during the I&W era like
> the studio version of To Live Forever is still great.
I couldn't agree more. TLF is my favorite DT song. As for changing their
style, I don't think it's a change as obvious as Rush's from album to
album. I like to think of it more as a maturing process. Between changes
in their lives, new things to listen to, and a new keyboardist, things are
going to change. But somewhere, John, John, and Mike are the same three
guys that met at Berklee, the same three that recorded WDADU, the same
three that have been touring together for 10 years. I wouldn't worry too
much.
Of course, that's all in my hu... oh, you know that.
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:57:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tree501307@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2644
Message-ID: <970617145359_1924967648@emout07.mail.aol.com>
PLEASE STOP SENDING ME THESE
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 15:20:36 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ozzy
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970617192036.006799c0@ici.net>
>>2) I'd swear I'd seen the guitarist (Joe? Jon? Holmes) performing with
>>someone else. Please somebody prove I'm not crazy here.
>
>David Lee Roth's band after Jason Becker was diagnosed and had to drop
>out of the tour. Then Dave fired the whole band.
> And I knew I recognized the drummer! Thanks Pat!
Wrong Pat - that was me, but thanks anyway. :) And the name came to me -
Mike Borden.
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:23:09 -0500
From: wjwomack@tddeng00.fnts.com (Wade J. Womack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Late, Great RR
Message-ID: <199706171923.OAA08469@tddpd22.tddeng00.fnts.com>
>What are the best Rhodes releases to buy? Are they all Ozzy releases?
No. Randy RHOADS (notice the spelling) only played on Blizzard of Ozz,
Diary of a Madman, and Tribute. Tribute is a live album released in ~1986,
but the live recording was from 1981 (Cleveland) with Randy...........
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I have seen a compilation of Randy's work with Quiet Riot (prior to his
Ozzy gig). Unfortuanately, I did not buy it immediately and have never
seen it since :(
He who hesitates is lost!
Wade
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 15:40:57 -0400
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Mindbenders and string benders
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970617154057.00f18ac0@pophost.fore.com>
>
>>Sorry man, I just don't think Satch has achieved 'legend' status. That's
>>my opinion, of course, but I think Satch won most of his popularity on the
>>piggyback of Steve Vai.
>
>Er, what? On the piggyback of Steve Vai? Vai was Joe's *student*,
>thankyouverymuch. And before somebody remarks on the pupil being greater
>than the teacher, let's look at when Satch was at the height of his
>popularity and when Vai was at the height of his popularity (IMHO).
You guys keep replying to me as if I don't know my guitar history. I do
know that Vai was Satch's student. So what? I'm talking solely about
popularity when I stated "Satch won most of his popularity on the piggyback
of Steve Vai." You guys are making a huge deal out of Surfing with the
Alien. I bought the album when it came out, but only because I was heavily
into the instrumental guitar albums that were circulating heavily around
that time. Out of Vinnie Moore, Tony MacAlpine, Steve Vai (flexable), and
Satch, I certainly don't think Surfing paved the way for anyone. I also
don't believe Surfing with the Alien was more popular than any of these
other instrumentalists. I do think Steve Vai became popular because of his
work with DLR, not because of the songs, but because of the solos and the
cool guitars he used in the videos. Then I saw Vai on Crossroads and was
blown away. The only reason any of my friends or I bought 'Surfing' was
because we were told that Satch was Vai's teacher. We figured, if he
taught Vai, then he must be good. And he is good. But I still don't think
he is/was nearly as legendary as Steve Vai, even if he has put out more or
better material.
By the way, if anyone paved the way for all of the instrumental guitar
albums that all started coming out in the mid 80's, it's Yngwie. His
Rising Force album pre-dated all of the other guitarists' albums (even
though it featured vocals on 2 tracks). After that album followed
Flex-Able, Mind's Eye (V. Moore), Edge of Insanity (T. MacAlpine),
Cacophony, etc.. Again, I think Satch is a great guitarist, but falls in a
pack of many great guitarists, and to me, hasn't done anything to rise him
above the rest. I feel the same way about Chris Oliva. Great, but not
legendary. Randy was legendary.
>Satch: 1987-1994. During this time he released a groundbreaking
>instrumental album in "Surfing With the Alien,"
Like I stated above, this album didn't break any ground. Yngwie broke the
ground, and by the time Surfing came out, there were a dozen other
guitarists releasing similar stuff. See the Shrapnel Records back catalog
for reference.
>pushing the horizons even
>further with 1989's "Flying in a Blue Dream", and saw his popularity rise
>even further with 1992's "The Extremist". By the time Joe released "Joe
>Satriani" in 1995, his popularity and mass appeal was declining, though he
>remains one of the most influential and popular guitarists around -- a
>"musician's musician," if you will.
I just don't see this, although I don't read my Guitar for the Practicing
Musician anymore. I suppose if I did, I'd feel that he is more popular,
since he's a big part of that mag.
>In contrast, Vai was relatively obscure (again, IMHO) for years before
>reaching relative success. Playing with Zappa, releasing an album
>("Flex-Able") which went nowhere, and doing soundtracks ("Crossroads") and
>other oddball stuff. His own rise to prominence and "guitar-god" status
>began with 1990's "Passion and Warfare". Around about the same time, he
>joined Whitesnake and got a great deal of exposure there; soon everybody
>started to recognize his talent. His popularity has been rising ever since,
>and I think Vai is still on an upswing, especially with the recent release
>of "Fire Garden".
You might be correct from the general public's point of view, but for
anyone picking up the guitar around the mid 80's, Vai's popularity started
much earlier (with DLR), and certainly before Satch's. Vai's popularity
broke the bounds of just guitarists with his stint in Whitesnake, whereas I
think Satch's popularity is still just among guitartists.
>Excuse me? "Surfing with the Alien" was not only the first instrumental
>album to get heavy recognition and airplay, but also helped to kickstart
>the guitar music movement and get guitarists the recognition they deserved
>as true musicians. And "Flying in a Blue Dream" is, quite simply, one of
>the best albums ever. High-flying, powerful, moving and envelope-pushing,
>that one is definitely "remarkable and unforgettable."
I simply don't agree with any of this. Both albums, albeit good stuff,
were neither ground breaking, nor unforgetable. I own both, and can't
recall a lick off either album. But I bet there's not a person out there
who can't hum the opening riff to Crazy Train, and that has nothing to do
with Ozzy's vocals. Also, you may argue that it's only because of Ozzy's
popularity, but I would respond saying Randy was an integral part in
creating Ozzy's popularity.
Think what you will. I'm having fun with this, so I hope we're not boring
everyone. At least we've managed not to start a flame war out of it. Keep
'em coming.
KAI
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:54:52 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Die Eyre Von Satan
Message-ID: <199706171954.MAA07401@main.cfmc.com>
>From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
>
>That fucknut wrote:
>> Spoken with true eloquece and class, Chris...really. Correct me if
>>I'm wrong, because I could've sworn we lived in a democracy. You know,
>>that little freedom of speech thingy? It's obvious no one is entitled to
>>their own opinion around here, because there's always someone ready to
>>rip them a new orfice.
This is partially true. There IS, generally, someone around rip to some
orfice generation in these parts. But, hell, that's part of the fun. I
don't mind taking a little shit for my atypical musical leanings, and I
don't entirely agree that we SHOULDN'T be able to beat the Spice Girls
hither and yon if we really want to. And....
>Yeah, really. I mean, you would think that in a democracy people would be
>entitled to any opinions they might have. Like music for instance.
>Wouldn't you agree, White Wolf, that in a democracy people are free to
>choose the music they want to listen to? Like Dream Theater? Or Alanis
>Morissette? I mean, in a democracy a person should even be able to listen
>to *both* of them, even though they are vastly different music styles,
>right? I mean, we *do* have freedom and all, right White Wolf?
We've established here that we CAN listen to damn near anything we want.
Anyone wanna work on a Debbie Gibson fan club. But...
>What? What do you mean a Ytsejammer can't listen to Alanis? Even in a
>democracy? Oh, ok. Well, in that case, don't cry to us about your
>precious freedom of speech. Which amendment covered 'the freedom of
>posting just to see yourself talk'? I forget...
..there NEEDS to be some amount of quality control on a mailing list. Some
lists achieve this end by moderating the lists and tossing spam and posts
that are wildly off topic. Some achieve this end by building a level of
community that organically filters out idiot postings fairly rapidly.
And some lists establish a framework under which the list should operate.
And one of the issues that's been deemed outside the fruitful functioning of
this list is whether Metallica has sold out or devolved or sucks or
whatever. Unless, it seems, it's couched in the context of a joke. I'd
actually LIKE to beat the issue around with White Wolf -- I think he's
wrong. But it isn't something the folks here want to see. And there's
something of a social contract here that we need to observe to make the list
function properly. This isn't a public forum -- it IS subject to restriction.
>Well, excersizing my freedom of choice and speech, I choose to break out
>another Tool .sig because it seems so appropriate. Happy Jamming.
>
>
> Tool - Eulogy
>
>T No way... to recall...
Und keine eyre!
>From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
>There can be no question that Satriani became a more techinally
>accomplished player than Rhoads, if for no other reason than RR's
>unrealized potential. But JS broke as much ground as Rhoads did as far
>as guitar playing is concerned, if for no other reason than the fact
>that he had time to mature before our very ears. Neither RR nor JS is
>the perfect guitar player. Satriani built upon the fantasic and
>wealth-filled foundation that Rhoads built....
I don't know about that. They were born about the same time. That Randy
Rhoads became popular first isn't all that big a deal. About the best
argument I can see for the relationship between the two is that Randy Rhoads
was a key cog in updating and expanding the role of guitar in an aggressive
rock context. He was one of the guys who really brought technique to the
forefront.
Outside of that, I'm not all that willing to give Rhoads much of the credit
for the success of Satriani. As I said, the two are roughly contemporaries,
which leaves the influence side out of it. And, aside from that, Randy
Rhoads was more of an expansion on things Uli Roth, Richie Blackmore, and
Eddie Van Halen were playing. Satriani is more a combination of traditional
blues playing and exotic scalar playing and...well...noisemaking. Satriani
updates a line of players that Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Page seem to be more a
part of. They're both tremendous players, of course, but, in terms of
sonics, note choices, and composition, they're not really similar players.
Five Gratuitous CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Moving Pictures
2. Queensryche: Operation: Mindcrime
3. Helmet: Meantime
4. Accomplice: Accomplice
5. Ministry: Psalm 69
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 14:56:36 -0500
From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden and Rhoads/Satriani/Vai
Message-ID: <33a6ebf325a8017@mhub2.tc.umn.edu>
> > Some chap wrote about the NWOBHM cd:
> >
> > >It has the original "Sanctuary" by Maiden, from the Soundhouse tapes,
> > >with Di'anno, Murray, and a bunch of guys you've never heard of.
> >
> > Hey, I've heard of Steve Harris. He's still in the band, you know! :)
Well, yeah, I just thought that was obvious enough that I didn't have to mention
it. ;-)
>
> So's Dave Murray, isn't he? (I haven't been paying attention to their last
> couple albums.)
The present line-up is:
Guitars: Dave Murray and Janick Gers (who I think tries way to hard to show off)
Bass: Steve Harris
Drums: Nicko McBrain
Vox: Balze Bailey (whom I don't care for at all)
Murray and Harris are the remaining members from their first album, but
technically, Murray's not an "original" member.
> "Originally recorded on 14th November 1979 & transmitted on 14th December
> 1979 for the BBC Radio One 'Friday Rock Show' previously unreleased."
My mistake.
> Sorry man, I just don't think Satch has achieved 'legend' status. That's
> my opinion, of course, but I think Satch won most of his popularity on the
> piggyback of Steve Vai.
I personally think Satch plays circles around Vai, but that's just me. I don't
care for Vai's playing, but I love Satriani, especially his nack for guitar
melodies. In comparing Satch and Rhoads, it must be remembered not only that
Rhoads play with Ozzy, but that he played with any vocalist. As Satriani is
primarily an instrumentalist, he'll never achieve the notoriety of a Randy
Rhoads, even if his playing was much better.
-Brian
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do is blow your head off and become a legend." - Paul Stanley of KISS
I wanted the Best, I got the Best! 4-22-97
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:00:16 -0400
From: Eric Rodger <erodger@fore.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Late, Great RR
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970617160016.00cc7e80@pophost.fore.com>
>
>I have seen a compilation of Randy's work with Quiet Riot (prior to his
>Ozzy gig). Unfortuanately, I did not buy it immediately and have never
>seen it since :(
Yeah, Kevin Dubrow re-mixed some of the old stuff they had on tape, and
released it. I have it, and it's not overly exciting, as most of the Quiet
Riot stuff with Randy isn't. Here's some of the QR stuff I have with Randy:
Quiet Riot - first album released in Japan only. I have a bootleg copy,
A/A- quality. The songs are very cheesy, and the guitar work is less than
extraordinary.
Quiet Riot II - second LP released only in Japan. My bootleg again A/A-
quality. the songs are still cheesy, but a little better than QR.
Dubrow's vocals suck the steaming phallus on both albums, and explain why
they were never released in the U.S.
Quiet Riot demos 1977-79 - 45 minutes worth of demos that didn't end up on
either QR or QRII. The quality ranges from A to B/B+. Same story on the
songs. Some of the later songs start to show signs of the guitar work we
are used to from Randy, but still not up to par.
Quiet Riot - Starwood Club, LA - 60min 05/30/80 Randy shines on this,
and you can recognize parts in songs/solos that became Revelation Mother
Earth, Goodbye to Romance. The sound isn't that hot, at about a B-/C+ on
quality, but it's listenable and a collector's dream.
Quiet Riot interview with all 4 members (incl. Randy) - KROQ FM interview
20 min.
Quiet Riot - CBS demo (1978) - 2 or 3 songs - good quality.
I also have several live recordings of Ozzy shows with Randy.
This is not an advertisement for my material, but merely an informational
post, to educate some Randy Rhoads admirers. At this point, I can't strike
up any trades, however, I just bought a CDr, and as soon as I get the
fucking thing working correctly, I might start a MikeBahr-like project on
the QR/Randy stuff. More on that later.
KAI
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:46:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Opinions
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970617163804.17185B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Pat Griffin wrote:
> The problem is too many people around here state opinions like they are
> facts. 9 times out of 10 you will see "Metallica sold out," or "Alanis
> sucks;" instead of "I think Metallica's newest CD was a poor effort on
> their part and produced just to appeal to a wider group and make more
> money instead of staying true to their music," or "I don't care for
> Alanis' musical style." The bottom line is Alanis does not suck.
There's no problem with stating opinions as if they are facts. There's a
problem with people reading these statements. It might just be me, but if
I read a statement along the lines of "Alanis sucks" I can infer that this
is an opinion. The problem is with the people who are too sensitive to
acknowledge that this is an opinion. There are too many cry babies
(including some on this list) on the internet.
Brandon
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:49:21 -0700
From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FATES WARNING - FIRST U.S. DATE
Message-ID: <199706172049.NAA01476@gms.gmsnet.com>
Fates Warning will be kicking off the U.S. Tour here in Corona, CA on July
24th, this is a confirmed date... tickets are on sale at Ticketbastard!
If you plan to go to this show... e-mail me!
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:02:14 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Randy Rhoads Message-ID: <199706172102.OAA01636@gms.gmsnet.com>
He also played on the first and foremost Quiet Riot (not the one ya'll are thinking about) and with his own band... can't remember the name... good luck finding those recordings...
-The Doc
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 23:49:58 +0200 From: "Davide" <dada@iname.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Angra Message-ID: <199706172153.XAA19256@iol-mail.iol.it>
> Vocalist Andre Matos' voice may require some > getting used to, but technically he must be at least as good as Michael > Kiske's ever been.
I realy don't think so........basically becouse of two main things 1) Kiske never uses falsetto and Matos uses it a lot or better too often (he cannot even reach an high C and so e sings like a castrato) 2) Kiske shows one of the greatest modulation ever while Matos' voice is flat as a surf table
Try to sing the keeper of the seven keys and carry on and you'll see the difference between one of the greatest singer ever and a normal voice with a good use of falsetto........ if you prefer the second you shoul listen to AH-A (is it written like this??)
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:45:47 -0400 From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2644 Message-ID: <199706172239.AA13969@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello, Sorry to Pat Griffin; it was Pat Sullivan who asked about Joe Holmes. Hope he read it anyway... Oh, and the trader list is getting big in only its second day. By the end of next week, I will have a text version prepared, then it will be off to Rogerio website, though I will maintain any additions to it. Keep 'em coming! -- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com *************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 02:15:03 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: are all dead people geniuses? Message-ID: <199706172331.CAA20905@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
> people examine two musicians, one living, and one dead... The dead one > is usually the one labelled most often as "genius". Had Satriani died, > and Rhodes lived... Who knows.DK
..Geniuses Criss Oliva and Randy Rhoads. There's been some talk of Jimi Hendrix too. Everybody tells you how John Lennon was a genius, and Janis Joplin, and Jaco Pastorius, and John Bonham, and the road goes on forever or almost. I think I see the connexion. I don't know what those people may be up to these days, but sure as hell they wouldn't be considered geniuses.
Haven't you noticed: all geniuses are dead? If somebody like Eddie Vedder or, say, James Hetfield hit the bucket within a week, in a year they'd be praised so much that it'd be embarrassing. I'd say Kurt Cobain was the last example.
In my mind's eye, I can see loads of replies a la "get a life, get a clue". :-)
Do not click here to continue.
Raitz
Be reasonable -- demand the impossible!
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 02:20:37 +0200 From: "Raivo Hool" <raitz@guvatrak.ee> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: talk about Vai and Satriani Message-ID: <199706172336.CAA20916@lahmaat.guvatrak.ee>
> I really have to dispute this point. Not of this Earth came out the same > year as Eat 'Em and Smile, and are two very dissimilar albums. If you > want to argue that Vai's Flex-Able and Alcatrazz came before, I'd go on
Wasn't Vai that guy who played with Zappa since 1980 or something? That would answer your question about who came first. Doth it matter? The answer is no.
Then, I remember something about Vai getting Satriani signed to some record company. That was after "Flex-Able". Don't know for sure, I'm not a big fan of Satriani's music, whereas I admire his playing.
Do not click here to continue.
Raitz
Be reasonable -- demand the impossible!
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