YTSEJAM Digest 2651
Today's Topics:
1) 2 become one (NDTC), watch me throw up at accuses! :)
by caber1@concentric.net
2) CD's have arrived
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
3) Re: whitewolf - from techrat
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
4) RE: YTSEJAM digest 2645
by Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net>
5) re: whitewolf - from techrat
by eckie@asu.edu
6) OZZFEST DISASTER-the reprise??
by Randall Braun <RBraun@gecits.ge.com>
7) My last word on guitarists....
by "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu>
8) Strawberries... *The* Place for Prog?
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
9) Cryptic Limes
by "Jim Munster" <freakboy@ptd.net>
10) Re: Cryptic Limes
by evic@goodnet.com (Evicerator)
11) Drawing and Quartering Drawn Quarters....
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
12) Banter
by "Thomas Warnick" <twarnick@nsc.utah.edu>
13) Anyone heard of "Visionary"???
by MTeiper@aol.com
14) Re: dream theater
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:24:09 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 2 become one (NDTC), watch me throw up at accuses! :)
Message-ID: <33A86E19.3487@concentric.net>
Hey everyone,
Someone was asking about this video(When 2 become one by the Spice
Girls). It's the funnest Spice Girls' vid yet. They're all hanging
around some city that looks like NYC, but, for some reason the
temperature changes depending on which body part the camera is
on(example: the rap chick is wearing this short shirt, but she is
wearing a long coat, and heavy pants, oh yeah, and gloves). And WTF is
up with the ending? They show some goat or something, sorry I haven't
seen it in the passed two minutes, and its just standing in the middle
of Broadway with cars speeding by nearing the time barrier. It just
doesn't make sense but that's also true for any good porn movie! ;)
About that trader's list that someone is making(sorry my computer is not
obeying my commands so I can't get your email address) a piece of advice
don't(maybe I should use caps lock) DON'T MAKE A BAD TRADER LIST. Make
the good and mixed trader list, I say this not just because of my own
"failure" with the list I had going for a little while. But because the
bad trader will also have an accuse("I went on vacation to India, with
all my boots and someone stole them" or another good one "but I *AM*").
These are some of the concocked accuses I actually heard, its just a
pain in the neck to keep up these accuses. What I suggest is that when
you make up the lists keep the bad trader list, but don't put anyone in
there(I know that sounds stupid but listen). Put everyone who has been
troublesome in the "mixed" list, this way you're not saying that they're
"bad" but you're saying just watch out to everyone this. I say this
because there almost always going to be someone to say that the "bad"
trader is "good." Also, depending on who you talk to the time for
someone to offically rip you off is from 3 months to a year...
If you(the reader) thinks I'm(the writer) referring to you(Re: moron)
I'm(Re: dumbass) really referring to someone else(yo momma ;)
"Ah, the rural midwest -- home-cooked meals, amber waves of grain,
inbreeding...on to the heart of America!" - Tick (because Tick quotes
are awesome)
John McCabe
caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:20:20 -0600
From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: CD's have arrived
Message-ID: <s3a809c2.075@IOMEGA.COM>
Hey all,
Just received PT #16 and TDOW #156. I was supposed to get PT #60
but Mike mailed it and I never got it. A second one was sent and the
same thing happened. I gave him my work address and this time they
got here. This was 8 days after telling him the second attempt
failed. I think that's pretty good turn around.
Well, I'm off to go happy listening.....
Wilmo
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:25:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: whitewolf - from techrat
Message-ID: <199706182125.RAA23509@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
>
> i'm techrat, one of whitewolf's friends...
> you won't see whitewolf for a bit and i'm taking care of his mail
> to those of you who hate him - looks like you got your wish...
>
> whitewolf was in a head on collision last night about 4am. he's alive
> suffering some broken ribs a punctured lung and a concussion and if his
> condition doesn't improve, he'll be in a coma by tomorrow nite. he was
> conscious last time I saw him and he told me about the heat he'd been
> catching here for some
> comments he made recently and how some people just ripped him for it. before
> I left he told me to apologize to you people for his comments and he would
> like
I don't think anyone actually *hated* him as a person or
anything......I think that's beyond the cruelty range of
the 'Jammers.......A strong difference of opinion is a
better way of putting it......
> to retract them. though it doesn't look good, i believe he's a fighter and
> will recover. 2 years ago he crashed his other car and was in a coma. a
> buddy of his played your beloved dream theater over and over for him and
> believes they're
> the reason he recovered so quickly. currently we're playing images and
> words & handful of rain for him.
Well, I don't have Whitewolf's personal E-mail address, so I
had to put this on the 'Jam -- I don't think anyone will mind....
I know I'm personally wishing Whitewolf well and all the best
in his recovery......and I'm almost positive that a lot of
others are wishing the same for him, and are looking forward
to his return to health and to the 'Jam...
A suggestion for TechRat....if you can, print out copies of
the 'Jam and bring them to him as reading material during
his stay at the hospital. I remember when I got into a bad
accident a few years back that the well-wishes and the 'Jam
made my stay at the hospital much easier.......
Best wishes,
Al
-- ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 22:01:20 -0400 From: Misha Horowitz <mhorowit@ziplink.net> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: RE: YTSEJAM digest 2645 Message-ID: <01BC7C0E.1F6F3760@bos-ip-2-168.ziplink.net>
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Close...it's "a-ha," there aren't even capital letters! How chaotic!!! = Ahh...the great "a-ha," who released one of the greatest videos ever = with "Take Me On."
In other news -- can we possibly STOP these "Rhoads is LEGENDARY! Satch = isn't LEGENDARY, just good!" One man's legend is another's...uhh...you = know what I mean: people are going to have differing opinions over what = it takes to be "LEGENDARY," or "good," or "worse than festering feces."
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:02:30 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: re: whitewolf - from techrat Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970618145452.11091B-100000@general3.asu.edu>
Is this serious? Or is this some sick sick way of trying to say "sorry 'bout the bad karma?" If it's real, I'll have him in my prayers.
My last post was a bit harsh, and I apologize for striking out at a thread that is (well, at least NOW it is >;) ) actually informative and interesting.
JP: Heh, hey look, Eckie stuck his foot in his mouth! Petrucci: OH MY GOD! TOENAILS IN YOUR MOUTH!
Anyhoo, I'm sorry 'bout closin' my mind up and writing to an open forum...that's just a bad idea anytime. I've just been tense lately. I'm sexually repressed.
But then again, who isn't? >;)
~Eckie finds a bucket full of ice
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:47:09 -0500 From: Randall Braun <RBraun@gecits.ge.com> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: OZZFEST DISASTER-the reprise?? Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=GE%l=AMERIDATA/ADNC/000061F8@msb01itscge.gecits.ge.com>
Quote 2649...OZZFEST DISASTER!!!!!!!! Ozzfest was SOLD OUT in Columbus Ohio last night, and guess who called in sick......yep, OZZY himself! The crowd went nuts and rioted. They started bonfires on the lawn and started the seats in the amphitheatre on fire, and the rest of the usual riot stupidity. ...Fuckin idiots. Maybe the guy really was sick!
REPLY: OZZY?? SICK?? He didn't show up TWICE last year for shows in Fresno, CA last year. LAST MINUTE cancellations ...minutes, NOT hours or days before the concerts were scheduled to start. No riots, but a lot of "Ozzy sucks" on the Ray-Dee-Oh.
email: Randall.Braun@gecits.ge.com ********"Ring Glass Bells Gently"********
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 97 17:43:26 -0500 From: "Brian Hayden" <Brian.D.Hayden-1@tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com, ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My last word on guitarists.... Message-ID: <33a8648e36c0003@mhub1.tc.umn.edu>
Since somebody mentioned FEEL in guitar playing I'll just say...
Buy "Past, Present, and Future" by Al Stewart. It freakin' rules!! He's one of the greatest acoustic players in history, IMO. Most people only know him for his song "Year of the Cat" - and it's probably his worst song.
-Brian
******************************************************************************** Official East Troy, WI Ozzfest (featuring original Black Sabbath!) countdown: T - 7 days and counting!
***************************** Quote of the Day *********************************
"Being miserable might work for your first album, but once you get your royalties, what are you gonna sing about on your second album? Then all you can do is blow your head off and become a legend." - Paul Stanley of KISS
I wanted the Best, I got the Best! 4-22-97 ********************************************************************************
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:14:50 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Strawberries... *The* Place for Prog? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970618190909.1887C-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
I had to check out the rumors for myself, and indeed, their little list of upcoming releases had "DREAM THEATRE" slated for a July release. (God, now that I think of it, I can't remember if the label said "EastWest" or "MCA." Wouldn't that be a kick in the head?)
Anyway, when I asked, the guy said, "Oh, yeah, I remember seeing that in there." "You've *heard* of them?" I asked. "Oh, sure. That cover album they did, the Seasons one? That's some great stuff!"
I was absolutely shocked. Am I really in a chain music store, talking to someone who's heard of DT?? As it turns out, we got on the topics of Rush, Fates, and Megadeth (which I didn't have the cash for). Looks like I may have to go back to that place again. :)
In the meantime, I've been buying CD's (new and used) like they're going out of style, so expect a lot of reviews from me soon. On this list are: ELP's Brain Salad Surgery FNM's Album of the Year Ozric's (I can't remember the title) Guitar Magazine: The Guitars the Rule the World (Finally I found this one!) Animal Logic (featuring Stanley Clarke and Stewart Copeland - Thanks Adam!)
-d
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:45:57 -0400 From: "Jim Munster" <freakboy@ptd.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Cryptic Limes Message-ID: <199706182350.QAA23206@odin.ax.com>
Is it me or does M-Deth's "FFF" sound exactly like "Motorhead"? hmmmm.....bitter Dave???? freakboy
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:04:10 -0700 (MST) From: evic@goodnet.com (Evicerator) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Cryptic Limes Message-ID: <199706190004.RAA06442@mail2.goodnet.com>
yah, you're right, some of the main riff in FFF sounds like Motorhead...but remember that Call of Ktulu uses the same progession as Hangar 18...both of which were written by Dave...so maybe there's just a little "payback"? or maybe not....dave isn't really the sort to hold old vendetas (sp?) anyhow...yah, ;)
>Is it me or does M-Deth's "FFF" sound exactly like "Motorhead"? >hmmmm.....bitter Dave???? >freakboy > > ---------------------------------------------------- Catch Megadeth this summer in a city near you...
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:24:28 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Drawing and Quartering Drawn Quarters.... Message-ID: <199706190024.RAA09713@main.cfmc.com>
>From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil> > >Don't you mean Gary Moore? :) For those who don't know, Vivian wanted to >be Gary so bad he ripped off almost all of Gary's style at one place or >another on those Dio albums. Now Campell's in Def Leotard and Moore's >doing adult - radio blues. Sheesh, what's the world coming to?
My understanding is that Vivian Campbell was as into Rory Gallagher as Gary Moore, perhaps more so, though I wouldn't deny the Moore influence there. In any event, I think you certainly could argue that some of the tunes on the last coupla Gary Moore records are radio-oriented, but the majority of what's on there doesn't sound like it, to my ears. I still prefer "Wild Frontier," for what it's worth.
>From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com> > >PERUSE: tr.v. To read or examine typically with great care. Usage Note: >Peruse has long meant "to read thoroughly" and is often used loosely when >one could use the word "read" instead. The worst that can be said about >the latter use is that it is excessively literary or precious. However, >common misuse of the word in the sense "to glance over, skim" as in "I >only had a half an hour to peruse the fucking FAQ so I still don't know >how to unsubscribe from this damn list", was unacceptable to 66 percent of >the [dictionary] Usage Panel.
I checked into that in the exact same dictionary, which is a few years old now. I'm guilty of using it in the modern sense, rather than the traditional, employing it in terms of what it generally connotes, rather than its denotation, which would put me among the 34 percent who are not offended by the contemporary usage.
Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Rush: A Farewell to Kings 2. Toad the Wet Sprocket: Dulcinea 3. Dar Williams: Mortal City 4. Testament: Souls of Black 5. The Beyond: Crawl
Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:29:40 -0700 From: "Thomas Warnick" <twarnick@nsc.utah.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Banter Message-ID: <199706190027.SAA16794@anthill.nsc.utah.edu>
Things to share:
#1 Strangely enough, I have become quite enamoured with CD shopping at the big ol' Circuit City, even though I usually despise the mega-metropolis shopping venue. Yesterday whist browing, I came across many treasures: DT-Live @ the Marquis (Import 1993), DT-Silent Man Single (Import), the whole collection of Rush - 20 bit Mercury remasters for $8.99, and, of course the new Megadeth.
Into my collection went "Crypic Writings," "Power Windows," and "Grace Under pressure." "Cryptic Writings" brought me much joy, even with the high expectations I set for it after the glowing reviews here on YTSE. The Rush sounds great, I can't compare it to the previous CD release, but compared to circa 1984 cassettes, they are incredible. There does however seem to be some distortion in "Manhattan Project" but I nit-pick.
They wanted $16 for "Live at the Marquis" and $10 for "Silent Man." They are still sitting there, waiting for my DT Rarities/Money ratio to become lower.
#2 A sad tale: I lent a buddy my "DT-Awake", "Ozzy Osbourne-Ozzmosis", "Queensryce-Promised Land" and "Metallica-Load" He was cranking one of them when his wife wandered home. She took one listen and blew a gasket. Screaming, "I don't want this shit in my house," she broke all of my CDs into pieces. Can you believe it??? Some people... Sigh... Another trip to Circuit City, I guess.
#3 <Pontification mode on> Why are CD's still so outrageously priced.? We all know you can burn 1000 cd's for $500 (or less). To whom does all my hard earned cash go? Another sigh... <off>
Siezure Later.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:31:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MTeiper@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Anyone heard of "Visionary"??? Message-ID: <970618212748_-328008089@emout12.mail.aol.com>
Hey Jammer-folx:
I subscribe to "Goldmine" magazine, and a dealer has a self-titled CD by a band called "Visionary" advertised. The hype reads thusly: "Imagine Queensryche, Dream Theater, and Metallica rolled into one. That is what you get from this hot release." Has anyone heard of these guys to verify this? The dude only wants $13.99 for it, so it might be worth a shot if I get some positive reviews. I hope this guy's right... 3 of my ALL-TIME favorite bands wrapped up into one! However, I've been burned before with bands like Altura (I know a lot of you guys dig 'em, but I thought they were pretty bad). They were hyped as a cross between DT, QR, and Shadow Gallery. IMHO, they weren't even in the same league as any of them. Anywho, any help on "Visionary" would be greatly appreciated.
On the killer CD front: I think the new Megadeth rules! Heavy and catchy, but not as poppy as I've heard in the past from 'em. I really like this a lot. Also, I just received Angra's "Holy Land" and "Angels Cry". All I can say is "WOW!!!!!!!!!" And, last but not least, the new Bruce Dickinson kix ass too!
That's all for now, gang.... Later! Matt T.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:30:36 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: dream theater Message-ID: <199706190132.SAA24847@odin.ax.com>
> Hi there, various assorted ytse-jammers. My name is Nick and I live in > Johannesburg,South Africa (not exactly the Prog-rock capital of the > world, if ya know what I mean). I think that Dream Theater are the > greatest band ever to grace this planet AND I'M HUNGRY FOR ANYTHING TO > DO WITH THEM!!!!
I've still got one of Mike Portnoy's discarded tuna and corn pizzas stuffed in the freezer. Make me an offer...
BTW, welcome to the jam!
> > Give me back the band that made Only A matter of Time ,and > > Metropolis I > > No problem. Any other dreams you'd like me to satisfy? :) The band > hasn't left, by the way. It's called growing. Don't like it, start > your own movement...
"I get my best acoustics from the toilet!" - Mike Portnoy
Officially, the new Dream Theater album was secretly stocked in stores last night, but you didn't hear it from me... :P It's a double album, and 50 randomly assorted ones contain a lock of James' recently departed hair and a bonus CD similar to the Christmas CD, with the band playing Metropolis on household appliances. Mike plays the toilet, Sorry, but John P's playing a Hoover vacuum cleaner, Derek S. plays the inflatable blonde (not with), and James plugs his ears and cowers in the corner. John Myung was last seen driving reindeer through Scandanavia bearing gifts of joy to children across the land. Reports also state that he has put on a little weight and appears quite jolly about it, patting his paunch and chuckling to himself.
That's your Dream Theater news for the week! KorgX3 a.k.a. Pastor of Muppets ibanez@cyberghighway.net "Yay, yay, ormschperdinki du! Yay bork schperduggin dieder, Bork, Bork Bork!" ---Some Swede Muppet
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