YTSEJAM Digest 2660
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DTC
by Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
2) Alchemy
by Perk1994@aol.com
3) Our Trade
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
4) DT new CD, Fix 96 double CD
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
5) Re: Our Trade (Sorry bout that!) :-)
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
6) MIKE BAHR PLEASE EMAIL ME!
by skooc@earthlink.net
7) Re: Our Trade (Sorry bout that!) :-)
by eckie@asu.edu
8) joining ytsejam mailing list
by "rino fredh" <rfredh@online.no>
9) shit to late again...
by "Randy Shewey" <randyshewey@msn.com>
10) vinnie
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
11)
by Kappa <kappa_rock@iol.it>
12) equipment
by "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
13) Re: Queensryche in Portland (possible spoilers)
by Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
14) mike bahr??
by Thrak75@aol.com
15) Re: your mail
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
16) Recommendations about the following bands?
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
17) The time is just about upon us...
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
18) Random Thoughts (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:23:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Elhai <belhai1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: DTC
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970622002057.17348A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>
On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Randy Shewey wrote:
> thought I'd post something I found the other day surf'n , well I fond this
> place called CD CELLAR they had a ton of dt boot videos (15 to be exact) & a
> MAJESTIC HARMOIES CD listed, so I e-mailed them & they said they have the
> stuff in stock, has anybody dealt with these guys?
I've posted about this before, but I'll write about it again for any
newbies.
I don't know how the CD Cellar is now, but in the past this place has been
known to rip off many people. It claimed to have many things in stock but
actually these things were NOT in stock. I ordered a CD from them and
never got it. Instead he sent me videos because the CD I paid for was not
in stock and he could not get it. So NEVER give this place any of your
money.
Brandon
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:33:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Perk1994@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Alchemy
Message-ID: <970622013326_407961387@emout17.mail.aol.com>
Hello everyone,
I don't post often, but I figure I should let everyone know about a new
prog-metal band out of New York City that will be going places real soon.
They are called Alchemy and they are a must-see and must-hear for any Dream
Theater fans. Their lead singer is a cross between Crimson Glory's Midnight
and James LaBrie. They have a three-song homemade demo right now but will be
going into the studio to record their first real demo/album. And for more
DTC, they will be recording at Bear Tracks, where DT recorded. Alchemy will
be playing a club in Manhattan on July 11 (I will be hearing from the band
soon on the location) so feel free to e-mail me if you are interested in
seeing this great upcoming band.
Take care,
Adam Perkowsky
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:04:29 -0700
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Our Trade
Message-ID: <19970621.231437.3406.12.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
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Mary had a little lamb she kept in her backyard
and when she took her panties off his wooly DICK got hard. - Dice
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Hey Man!
Are you gonna send me the tape you owe me?
Scott
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 02:13:23 -0400
From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT new CD, Fix 96 double CD
Message-ID: <199706220614.XAA09175@odin.ax.com>
> Lay your butt on your chair and wait. It won't be ready to be
>selling really soon. The band has only 4 tracks finished (or almost
>finished).
>In other words: we'll have to wait a lot.
4 tracks, they're half way done with the new album (~30 minutes).
All that's left to do is record Metropolis 2, and the album is done!
I went to a local metal store today and found:
Dream Theater: Fix for 96 on double CD for $59.99
It contains all the songs from the a "Fix for 96" show plus
two songs from John P's clinic.
The CD cover shows James singing.
Does anybody know about this CD? Sound quality?
It looks like a professionally done CD, not a crappy bootleg.
Elvis Batur
cyclone@securenet.net
elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257
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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 23:36:01 -0700
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Our Trade (Sorry bout that!) :-)
Message-ID: <19970621.234824.3406.21.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
(Scott Cook) writes:
>Hey Man!
>
>Are you gonna send me the tape you owe me?
>
>Scott
I'm *really* sorry! This was meant to be a private email for someone.
I didn't check the *to* address before hand. I'd like to say it'll never
happen again, but it probably will. :-)
Scott
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: skooc@earthlink.net
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: MIKE BAHR PLEASE EMAIL ME!
Message-ID: <199706220707.AAA11288@italy.it.earthlink.net>
Thanks,
Scott
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 00:09:41 -0700 (MST)
From: eckie@asu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Our Trade (Sorry bout that!) :-)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970622000754.19993A-100000@general1.asu.edu>
Yeah, well the next time this happens, we'll hang you from your toes with
Petrucci's strings and beat ya senseless with Portnoy's drum sticks while
the rest of the band covers Spice Girls tunes!
>:D
And Mr. Bahr gets to record it!
~Eckie
On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Scott Cook wrote:
>
> (Scott Cook) writes:
>
> >Hey Man!
> >
> >Are you gonna send me the tape you owe me?
> >
> >Scott
>
> I'm *really* sorry! This was meant to be a private email for someone.
> I didn't check the *to* address before hand. I'd like to say it'll never
> happen again, but it probably will. :-)
>
> Scott
>
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 09:37:42 +0200
From: "rino fredh" <rfredh@online.no>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: joining ytsejam mailing list
Message-ID: <199706220737.JAA24064@online.no>
hi i love dt please include me in your mailing list
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 97 04:41:25 UT
From: "Randy Shewey" <randyshewey@msn.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: shit to late again...
Message-ID: <UPMAIL16.199706220640390466@msn.com>
jammers, well went back to CD CELLAR
& now all their showing is 2 video's. As usual I'm to late.. Knew I should
have bought a computer sooner,oh yea how do you get an irc server? Does it
cost anything to get hooked up? thanks later Randy Shewey..
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:54:54 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: vinnie
Message-ID: <v02130501afd236f9e927@[206.149.207.37]>
Vinnie's tip of the day:
"Never drive a big-assed van across a big city in search of DT"
;)~
Okay, this definitely wins for quote of the jam today. Vinnie, if you
don't put this in your sig file I just might!
-Shane
____________________________________________________________________________
Student: So Master, is the soul immortal or not? Do we survive our
bodily death or do we get annihilated? Do we really reincarnate?
Does our soul split up into component parts which get recycled,
or do we as a single unit enter the body of a biological
organism? And do we retain our memories or not? Or is the
doctrine of reincarnation false? Is perhaps the Christian
notion of survival more correct? And if so, do we get bodily
resurrected, or does our soul enter a purely Platonic spiritual
realm?
Sage: Your breakfast is getting cold.
"Have you had your Buddha Nature today?"
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:47:57 +0000
From: Kappa <kappa_rock@iol.it>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970622153731.006c5ed8@popmail.iol.it>
> Well, I would love it if it had the *absolutely* complete
>"Uncovered" with every single chatting (you may have noticed that they
>have deleted some talking from the "A Change of Seasons" covers) etc.
>Otherwise, I already have an "Uncovered" that has every song.
>
> But what I'd really love to see is an Uncovered *VIDEO*.
I have 20/30 minutes on video... the first one... as bootleg of course... then
I also have the MTV special on the show... but all the songs have cut...
bye
Alf
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 08:43:34 PDT
From: "Ville Rassi" <vilzu@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: equipment
Message-ID: <199706221543.IAA14652@f10.hotmail.com>
>does anyone know how the new equipment the guys are using on this
>album is going: Starclassics drums, Yamaha basses, the Mesa/Boogie
>Heartbreaker Petrucci was talking about?
Mike Portnoy uses:
Tama´s starclassic drums,hotsticks,Sabian cymbals,DW pedals and hardware
and Remo drumheads.Also various percussion instruments.
(Woodblocks,congas...etc...)
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 09:14:19 -0700
From: Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Queensryche in Portland (possible spoilers)
Message-ID: <199706221614.JAA14178@ichips.intel.com>
>Any other Jammers make it to that show? Mike Estok ("Michelob" on IRC) and
>I didn't see too many DT T-shirts last night (only one, in fact)...
Ooh! Ooh! I was there! I was there! 8^) I was even wearing my black
"classic" ytsejam shirt. We were pretty far up though, and if you could
tell what kind of bass Jackson was using, then you were probably far
away from my wife and I (btw, the way the stage was oriented in the Rose
Garden totally kicked ass. For those listening on the sidelines, it was
in the middle of the stadium, and they had over half the stadium behind
the stage curtained off, so they were facing one side. We were up in the
200 section, but it was actually very close to the stage, and we were
looking almost straight down over the top of the band. Almost seemed like
I could pop a loogie on Degarmo's head. =)
Anyway, I agree, fantastic show. I think the Promised Land tour had a
better "performance", although that's just cuz I like to see Geoff Tate
ham it up so much. ;) (he did a little of that too, tho).
A few additional comments:
For those that have complained that Geoff's voice has been ruined by
smoking, and that he was forced to sing like a normal person on the latest
album, well you're wrong. It appears that the vocals were done that way
by choice, because he was belting out those long high-pitched shrieks just
as strong as I'd ever seen him do it before. I was very pleasantly
surprised by this, because I was expecting the worst. Empire, Jet City
Woman, Breaking the Silence, Take Hold of the Flame, you name it, he
nailed it. It was great.
Since Matthew commented on Geoff's apparell, I'll comment on Chris DeGarmo's
choice of clothing...I swear the boy was having a 70s flashback or something.
He wore a yellow, skin-tight, velvet-like t-shirt with white jeans and tan
shoes. My first impression was that he was going for the grunge-y look, but
then I realized I had to go farther back than that to the Greg Brady look. =)
It looked especially funny since all the other band members wore fairly
classy clothing. I was amused, anyway. ;)
Matthew or Mike, can one of you email me a setlist of the show? I may get
flamed for this, but I never bought HitNF, since I didn't like Sign of the
Times and I heard that most of the album was more of the same...I thought
I'd judge the songs in concert, and sure enough there were a couple I liked
(and alas, a few I didn't like as well). Anyway, I'd like to know what
songs these were (plus I'd like to know what the last song of the encore
was...I don't own anything prior to O:M, and I didn't recognize it).
If I knew that there were other 'jammers getting together for concert events
here in Portland, I would have tried to hook up with you guys. Next time
Rush or Queensryche or DT come through here (only one more to go! ;), email
me or I'll email you and see what's going down. The only other concert I'm
planning on going to anytime soon is Boston (hey, what can I say...they
hearken back to my childhood, and it'll probably be another decade before
the next tour...plus I might see Tom Sholz show up with a piano he made out
of a toaster or something ;).
Enough for now, on with the 'jam...
Jim
-- Jim Beavens <jbeavens@ichips.intel.com> | If I had a witty remark that MD6 Design Engineer, Intel Corp, Hillsboro OR | would better the lives of my -=(UDIC)=- Subconscious Dragon -=(UDIC)=- | fellow mankind, do you really ** I don't speak for Intel ** | think I would put it HERE?------------------------------
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 13:28:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Thrak75@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: mike bahr?? Message-ID: <970622132824_1378110763@emout13.mail.aol.com>
hey...........just wanted to know if mike bahr's still on here...
mike, if you are, can you email me please? thanks a lot.
ytsegoon
****************************************************************************** *******david y. kobayashi thrak75@aol.com
"i'm using the chicken to measure it." -uncle meat ****************************************************************************** *******
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:59:34 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970622155729.29324A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Sun, 22 Jun 1997, Kappa wrote:
> > But what I'd really love to see is an Uncovered *VIDEO*. > > I have 20/30 minutes on video... the first one... as bootleg of course... then > I also have the MTV special on the show... but all the songs have cut...
Well, I also have the first 20 or 30 minutes of the show (until the U2 song), but it is has bad quality and I'd never call it a "video". It is, at most, a tentative of a video. Nothing more than this. And I also have the MTV special, but again, it has poor quality.
See you later, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 16:07:30 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Recommendations about the following bands? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970622160117.29324B-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
Hi, there.
Since I'll have a lot time now to try different things, could you tell me something about the following bands? Are they worth anything, should I ignore everything put by them, the must have albums etc.
- Amorphis (I saw a video called "My Kantele" and it is really good. If their other releases are like this, man, this band must be more famous); - Opeth (only heard that they are very good, but nothing more. Is it truth?); - Queensryche (serious, I don't know anything by them, and don't know where to start. How do they sound like?); - My Dying Bride (someone told me that their albums are better than Metallica's "Master of Puppets". Ha ha. I doubt it.); - Fates Warning.
Well, feel free to add any band here that you think that everyone should know.
Thank you very much for any comments, Roger...
-- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:32:43 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org> To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The time is just about upon us... Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970622152620.842A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
Hey folks. Just one last reminder to all the Jammers that are planning on attending upcoming Rush shows. Great Woods is tomorrow night. Me, Skadz, Jon P, and Rastafrog want to meet jammers. Before and after (heh heh, I made a Rush pun :) the show, we will be hanging out in the parking lot being loud. :) I will be wearing the Pat Griffin Ytsejam t-shirt, and a green UVM baseball cap (why break with tradition? :).
Saturday night, Montreal. I heard from a jammer that there will be a bit of a get-together before the show at the Peel Pub on Maissoneuve. Rastafrog and I will be there (although I may have to wear my Mets hat in the rival's town :). Come down and find us if you like.
Next Monday, Toronto. I don't know what Syrinx and I are doing before or after the show, so talk to us.
Don't be shy! Come up and introduce yourselves! We want to meet Jammers! -d
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 15:35:27 -0700 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Random Thoughts (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970622223527.0068222c@pop.pipeline.com>
Well, I just got home from a week and a half of vacation spent driving around the north central states of the US. I noticed many things which made me think. Since I have a captive audience, I figure I will make them known.
On Pennsylvania:
Can't you people pick up your roadkill off the highway? We counted 20 dead deer on the side of the road along I-83 and I-81. As soon as we entered New York they magically disappeared. Hmm.
On Vermont:
As I told D-Man, it seems like the state consists of mountains, cows, and backpack-toting chicks in Birkenstocks. Very pretty, though. (The state - not the chicks, per se.) The 50 mph speed limit threw me off.
On some new cds I bought for the trip:
G3 - live : well, I guess this was ok. I like all three artists, and wish I had been at the show. I guess this disc will tide me over. But don't spend your last 14 bucks on it.
FNM - Album of the Year : It's them. I need to listen to this more. No opinion yet.
On Ontario:
Nice of them to have one superhighway from Niagra Falls to Windsor/Sarnia. Not. They *almost* do, but not quite. There seemed to be a lot of strange-looking people in downtown Hamilton. Am I wrong? What's up with the 1 second yellow lights? We USA types are used to hitting the gas upon recognition of the amber hue. This shortness resulted in the illegal crossing of red ;-) And talk about people not respecting the speed limit! On 403 (I think) we were busting 75mph through the construction zone on a one lane road (each way) behind a Winnebago. You gotta love it.
On Michigan:
70mph speed limit. Need I say more?
On Indian Casinos:
Remember the stereotype indian guy who always said "how" on the cartoons? I'll tell you how. By taking all our money in their casinos. More power to 'em. It was just odd after being used to the decadent, rotting splendor of Atlantic City, going to this itty-bitty casino where their idea of a large beer selection encompassed varieties of Miller and Coors in an aluminum can. Yikes. Funny thing? I still lost money.
On Strange Milage Signs:
Ever seen the beginning of US41? It's cool. It says "Miami 1,910." That's a long-ass haul.
On Wisconsin:
You knew it was coming. Anyway, you gotta love the sausage races at County Stadium. 4 dollars beisbol tickets aren't too shabby, either. But those $2.75 20-ounce Cokes have to go.
On Middle-of-Nowhere Ohio:
Man, these people SCARED me. Inbreeding? We stopped at a Dairy Queen somewhere outside of Columbus, and there were some frightening sights. Really obese people in polyester slurping on extra large servings of ice cream. Failing to wear bras when sporting sleevless garments. (Normally that's not bad, but in this case...) Dirty, greasy, smelly guys without shirts snorting and spitting. Cue that banjo music.
On Returning Home to 40-odd Jams:
Whew. This is better taken a few at a time.
On Used CDs:
I think people would be better served complaining about this practice than the bootleg one. I bought a couple on the trip (Voivod, Thought Industry, and Wicked Maraya) and I had to think that this costs artists more money than any boot ever could. I only have maybe 15 used cds in my collection of over 4 digits. What about the people who only buy used? The artist never sees any of this $$.
On Stupid Ads in the paper:
Product: Fight Fat Fat Inhibitor Plan
Disclaimer: The dietary supplement in this plan is for nutritional use only and does not contribute to loss of weight or body fat
My Question: Who could be so stupid?
Ok, that's enough to fill up your boring Sunday afternoon. Bye.
Detroit Red Wings - 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions
Kevin
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