YTSEJAM digest 2665

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Tue Jun 24 1997 - 14:26:38 EDT

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    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2661
     by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
      2) new Tourniquet
     by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
      3) oh yeah
     by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
      4) first impressions / finneus
     by "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
      5) Re: whitewolf's condition
     by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
      6) Album review, NDTC
     by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
      7) "Counterparts" - Rush (NDTC)
     by "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
      8) Review:Blackmore's Night
     by "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
      9) HDCD/Megadeth (NDTC)
     by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
     10) Spock's Beard
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
     11) The boys
     by Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
     12) FATEZ gig review - Ludwigsburg
     by akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch
     13) Sfumato
     by klambau@igd.fhg.de
     14) I&W Video location and date?
     by Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de>
     15) hello?
     by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
     16) Re: NDTC: Magna Carta
     by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
     17) Shadow Gallery news
     by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
     18) Fuck a what?
     by zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin)
     19) Last Decade
     by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
     20) Paddywagon
     by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>

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    Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 22:46:30 +0000
    From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2661
    Message-ID: <199706240340.WAA27514@Walden.MO.NET>

    > More prog than prog. Good band, but like coffee, it's an aquired taste.
    Yeah, but once you acquire that taste, you're addicted big time
    (well, maybe that's just me :). Of course, there's really good
    coffee, and there's really nasty coffee :).

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:08:00 +0000
    From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: new Tourniquet
    Message-ID: <199706240402.XAA29872@Walden.MO.NET>

    Hey, I just heard another new Tourniquet song. The title track form
    the forthcoming CD, "Crawl to China." Some really interesting guitar
    effects at the beginning. Slow and HEAVY. This one's a tad simpler
    than the other two newer tracks "Perfect Night for a Hanging" and
    "The Hand Trembler," but it's just as heavy. I'm looking forward to
    this album :). Oh, by the way, I saw a release date of August for
    it. Oh yeah, and I'll be seeing them in concert in a week :).

    Dale R. Newberry

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    Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:08:54 +0000
    From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: oh yeah
    Message-ID: <199706240403.XAA00112@Walden.MO.NET>

    Oh yeah, I'll also be seeing Saviour Machine the same day as
    Tourniquet, on the same stage :).

    Dale R> Newberry

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    Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:56:33 +0000
    From: "Andrew Miller" <subtlerage@subtlerage.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: first impressions / finneus
    Message-ID: <19970624044733.AAB2204@subtlerage.avalon.net>

    On 23 Jun 97 at 11:44, some dumbass by the name of ytsejam@ax.com
    spewed this crap:

    > Sorry if this has already been covered here, but I just got Jim Matheos'
    > solo album "First Impressions" last week and it has completely blown me
    > away. Accoustic guitar, violin, and cello - that's it. The entire CD
    > is beautiful - positively brilliant.

    you know what *really* sucks? thinking you've got a decent name for
    your album only to find out soon after that someone else used the
    same title... d'oh!

    DTC- nada. but a bit of prog content... i ordered a finneus gauge
    cd, and being the impatient person that i am, i downloaded the sound
    clips from http://www.ghostland.com/finneus.html. all i can say
    is... AAH!!!! KICK ASS!!!! i'm very much looking forward to this
    disc.

    (for anyone that may be lost right now, finneus gauge is the new
    project by Chris Buzby, echolyn's former keyboardist)

    later.
    -Andrew
      
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    | Andrew Miller - keyboardist/vocalist - subtlerage |
    | http://www.subtlerage.com - subtlerage@subtlerage.com |
    | "first impressions" released. cassettes available |
    | an 8/97 release is planned for sr2 |
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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 00:14:47 -0600
    From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: whitewolf's condition
    Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970624001447.0068aa5c@autobahn.mb.ca>

    the test results are back and it looks good.
    besides the previously mentioned injuries there is some paralysis of his
    left arm probably temporary. if things progress as they are he should be
    resting at home by this weekend or early next week.
    l8tr
    techrat

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 00:38:59 -0500
    From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Album review, NDTC
    Message-ID: <33AF5D73.40F0@auburn.net>

    I picked up 4 CDs today at Silver Rocket Records for the total sum of
    $20. Images & Words, for my girlfriend. The Judgment Night soundtrack,
    because my brother stole my copy. Absolutely Free, by Frank Zappa,
    because I wanted it. And finally, the disc that is the subject of this
    post: "The Simpsons - Songs In The Key Of Springfield."

    This disc is a must-have for Simpsons fans. It has 39 tracks, and only 8
    are versions of the theme song. "The Amendment Song," "Senor Burns,"
    "Boy Scoutz N The Hood," "TV Sucks!" and "It Was A Very Good Beer" are
    just a few of the gems on this disc.

    Mark Peters
    swifty@auburn.net

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:47:45 +1000
    From: "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: "Counterparts" - Rush (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <4931553571@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>

    Hey ppls,

    I bought my first rush CD the other day. It was "Counterparts".

    Can anybody compare/contrast this from other Rush CD's at all??? I'd
    like to know which one to get next. Which stuff is best for a *dream
    theater* fan.

    Does rush do anything hugely complicated like DT?? My impression is
    that there isn't anything too complicated on the counterparts CD.

    Thanks heaps,

    Paul

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    Date: 24 Jun 97 10:35:09 +0200
    From: "Ollila Marko" <marko.ollila@metsaliitto.fi>
    To: Ytse Jam (Dream Theater Mailing List) <ytsejam@ax.com>
    Subject: Review:Blackmore's Night
    Message-ID: <0021452D0200000101003B4555042E@mlespser1001.metsaliitto.fi>

    Greetings ye 'jamanoids...

    More from the neverending warehouse of Mape's reviews... :P

    Blackmore's Night:Shadow of the Moon

    Imagine it, you're sitting under an old oak on the patio of a
    mediaeval castle, looking out to sea through one of the crenels
    of the castle's outer wall. There's a magnificent galleass sailing
    across the dead calm bay. There's a pretty blonde with a beautiful
    voice singing airs beside the wall, accompanied by a minstrel playing
    an acoustic guitar. That singing lady is Candice Night and Ritchie
    Blackmore is her minstrel spouse. This is definitely the sort of music
    that can part you from time and space and take you into an another, ancient
    world. It's pure magic, this CD's atmosphere is just enchanting. I felt I
    could drown in Candice Night's smooth singing and Blackmore's stylistically
    perfect accompaniment.

    Ritchie Blackmore has apparently grown out of his heavy metal pants, but
    this is nevertheless some of the best stuff he has composed in his whole
    life. As pioneering a band as Deep Purple has been, I'd select this over
    any of the Purple records eight days a week. It's not too easy to find a
    CD with appeasing mediaeval music. For me this is something I have been
    hunting high and low for a looong time. Candice Night's voice is like honey,
    it's crystal clear, it resembles Maggie Reilly a lot, Night's range isn't
    just as high as Reilly's but other than that the resemblance is uncanny.
    Blackmore's guitarwork is basic and stylish, his shredding days are over
    (save on one totally off-the-wall eighties disco (!) song on this disc,
    which IMO is way off the overall mood of this cd anyway.) and his sense of
    style is astonishing.

    Now, If I only could hear them in the surroundings I imagined.

    Rating: * * * * * * * * *

    _Mape_

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 10:28:52 GMT
    From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List)
    Subject: HDCD/Megadeth (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <M.062497.122852.89@wxs1-6.worldaccess.nl>

     Just a small question for the techno people out there: On Megadeth's "Trust"
    CD single it says stuff like "HDCD", High Definition Compatible Digital. What's
    all this about? Don't go *too* technical on me, please. If this is not the
    stuff that's supposed to be done on the 'Jam, please email me privately.

    --
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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 12:54:31 +0200 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: nga@server3.software-ag.de Subject: Spock's Beard Message-ID: <9706241054.AA00246@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all

    For those of you thirsting for (more) information about Spock's Beard, try pointing your browsers to the following address:

    http://www.altura.com/jordanz/spocks_beard/

    It's all there - samples, band info, pictures, reviews, e-mail addresses, how to order the albums (at reduced prices, too).

    The most recent update (21st June) says that they have finished recording their 3rd studio album and are now in the process of mixing it down.

    Precaution: listening to this band can induced rigidity in flaccid members. Don't say I didn't warn you...

    stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de) Currently playing: The Sisters Of Mercy - A Slight Case Of Overbombing

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 12:56:21 +0200 From: Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com, chapin@vxdesy.desy.de Subject: The boys Message-ID: <9706241056.AA17422@zeusa1.desy.de>

    I just scanned in a new picture from Burnn! magazine of the guys. Check it out at:

    http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg/gif/dtgroup.gif

    Just a public service announcement *grin*.

    Jason

    -- Jason Breitweg, breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The time long forgotten will soon come again, prepare for the meeting, the Gods of Metal reign" - HammerFall

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:29:03 +0200 From: akyuz@ltp.dmx.epfl.ch To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM Subject: FATEZ gig review - Ludwigsburg Message-ID: <v03007800afd569ad902b@[128.178.99.38]>

    Hiya'll jamanutz,

    After having been to the very disappointing Augsburg show last week, I travelled another 300+ miles to the FW Ludwigsburg gig. Being the last gig of their Euro tour, my hopes were this time high to live something special, not only from the band, but mostly from the audience who was basically asleep in Augsburg. With the proximity of Stuttgart, the place was more or less twice as filled as Augsburg with roughly 500 people. So it was quite hot from the start. Scanner played to a warm audience, but it was really Omen who got the place hot. Just like in Augsburg. Omen guys are really cool and energetic, but IMO their music lacks originality and suffered from the muddy sound.

    Anyway, after a very fast line check (the sound was obviously by the end of the tour, well rehearsed), FW took the stage. I immediately noticed that Ray was dressed much better and less than a hippie. Overall the band looked tired (this was the 5th gig of a series) but were having much more fun between themselves and with the audience. The audience responded this time splendidly, the band played the same shit as in Augsburg, but the crowd encored so much the band came back on stage to salute us one more time, although they did not play anymore.

    The set sounded much better rehearsed, Mark again ticking like a clock although the band doesn't play to a metronome. This guy is just awesome. Someone from the jam asked who the keyboard player was. Well I dunno if he's Ed Roth or not, but he either looks very Italian or much like Jim's brother. Who knows. In fact his reproductions of Aresti's solos are ok, but his sound was too muffled and sucked. Joey Vera up to it as usual, he also added some personal touch to Monument. Jim always as inward but this time much less worried about the others being with him in the song.

    The crowd listened very respectuously, if not ceremoniously APSOG, then really let go on the older songs. I dunno if APSOG got good distribution there, but it seems not since the anticipation of the crowd during the song was weak.

    To sum up, a very good gig, a very good band and a very good crowd, just like back in 1995.

    Now, FW have ended their Euro tour, however, they will play in the mega Eindhoven festival alongside Megadeth, Kiss, Flotsam, Testament, Skinlab, Foo Fuckers, Quorthon, Saxon, Iced Earth etc....

    Cheers for now,

    ________________________________ "I had so much time on my hands then suddenly, it washed away" --------------------------------------------- "These are my wings to fly These are the winds to sail So let as time goes by Mind over matter prevail" ________________________________

    D A V E K I N G b a s s & h a r m o n y M T 2 0 p r o g r e s s i v e m e t a l http://websites.maxess.ch/mt20 IRC : DaveKing

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:19:21 +0200 From: klambau@igd.fhg.de To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Sfumato Message-ID: <9706241519.ZM3188@giotto>

    Hey, you guys !

    There's a new site of a Progressive-Rock-Band namend Sfumato. If you go to http://www.igd.fhg.de/~klambau/sfumato you can listen to some wav-files !

    CU,

    Roger.

    -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | | |_|_|_|_| Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Graphische Datenverarbeitung | |__|__|_|_|_|_| Fraunhofer Institute for Computer Graphics (IGD-A4) | | | |_|_|_|_| | |__|__|_|_|_|_| Roger Klambauer | Tel. : +49 (0) 6151/155- | | . _ _ | Rundeturmstr. 6 | Fax : +49 (0) 6151/155-196 | | | / _ | \ | D-64283 Darmstadt | email: klambau@igd.fhg.de | | | \_/ |_/ | Germany | http://www.igd.fhg.de/~klambau | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Net boy, net girl - Send your signal 'round the world Let your fingers walk and talk - And set you free Net boy, net girl - Send your heartbeat round the world" (Rush'96, "Virtuality")

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 15:20:03 +0200 From: Jason Breitweg <breitweg@zeusa1.desy.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I&W Video location and date? Message-ID: <9706241320.AA17538@zeusa1.desy.de>

    Hi all,

    For the "Images and Words: Live in Tokyo" Video which date was that on and which venue? It could be one of the following three:

    08/23/93 Tokyo, Japan (Koseinenkin Hall) 08/25/93 Tokyo, Japan (Sun Plaza) 08/26/93 Tokyo, Japan (Sun Plaza)

    So which one was it, or was it a combination of all the shows? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Adios.

    Jason

    -- Jason Breitweg, breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg "The time long forgotten will soon come again, prepare for the meeting, the Gods of Metal reign" - HammerFall

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:48:39 -0400 From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net> To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: hello? Message-ID: <33AFD037.877@caribe.net>

    Can you hear me??? Am i getting thruuuuuuuu??! :)

    --

    "At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 23:20:26 +0900 From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: NDTC: Magna Carta Message-ID: <199706241420.XAA06893@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>

    Alright! I can help you out.

    It's "Black Light Syndrome" by BOZZIO LEVINS STEVENS. And the last one you can't remember is the bassist of King Crimson,Peter Gabriel etc....

    And here's full track list (there's no possiblity of bonus track here in Japan.) 1. The Sun Road 2. Dark Corners 3. Duende 4. Black Light Syndrome 5. Falling In Circles 6. Book Of Hours 7. Chaos/Control

    According to the ad by Roadrunner (Jpn), it seems this is so-called jazz/fusion album. 5th/July OUT.

    At 2:08 PM 97.6.23 -0700, mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com wrote: > I got the first Shadow Gallery CD from MC about a week ago (pretty cool >disc!), > and they included a catalog which has a CD by Terry Bozzio/Steve > Stevens/???(can't remember his name right now).... Anybody heard this yet? > > ~Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- -Keiji Nishihara  Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY KYOTO JAPAN

    Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 9:18:02 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Shadow Gallery news Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+PXwfnA@tcx.tcco.com>

    I don't know if someone already mentioned this, but I found this on their website:

    Shadow Gallery has been rehearsing wih Joe Novollo, an outstanding drummer who has played with the likes of Greg Howe, and Jens Johannson. The band is within weeks of recording material for their third release, which is tentatively titled "Tyranny". I've been told by Chris Ingles that Tyranny, "will deliver a heavy punch with a progressive feel."

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:49:21 EDT From: zarnoff069@juno.com (Mike Potvin) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fuck a what? Message-ID: <19970613.133052.4319.25.zarnoff069@juno.com>

    >Fuckin' _A_ did Megadeth put on a GREAT show!!!

    No, Fuck a _B_ It has more holes and angles.

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 12:54 EDT From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Last Decade Message-ID: <m0wgYrJ-000B3fC@xcalibur.iinc.com>

    Yeah, I could never figure out why a lot of their songs never made it past the demo stage such as I Just Wanna (off the Love Is The Drug single), Gimmie Some Of This and If You Think Your Bad. Just as a side note, all of Warrior Soul's releases (Last Decade, Drugs, Salutations, and Chill) have been re-released by Geffen. You can order them through CDNow directly through my WS page at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784

    Other NDTC stuff: I just graduated from high school, finally. Anyone else on the list graduating soon or has everyone been done with school for a long ass time.

    Heard the new Bruce Dickinson CD in K-Mart and might end up buying it sooner or later. Also heard the new Dokken (which did nothing for me).

    Also, can anyone help me out figuring out those fonts on the Flotsam And Jetsam CD "High". I can figure out the Metallica one (Monster), High (AC/DC), Your Hands (Van Halen) and High Noon (Green Jello- I think).

    Don Compton

    >Subject: Last Decade Dead Century > > Truly one >of the greatest tunes I've heard from this band <oh, that hypnotic >bassline>, which I just got into as a result of taking a chance picking >up their first CD from the $5 bin at Record Exchange. >

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    Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:54:47 -0700 From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Paddywagon Message-ID: <199706241654.JAA08674@main.cfmc.com>

    >From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu> > >> I don't think anyone who knows what they're talking about would say that >> Satch was better than Vai in cold hard technical terms, I agree. I also >> tend to listen to Vai much more now than Satriani, although it was the >> other way around when I was but a baby shredder. > >Me2. "Surfing With The Alien" did a lot more for me than "Passion & >Warfare" for about the first six months. But then...

    I guess my problem is that I play bas, not guitar. I mean, I'm consistently more amazed by Satriani's playing than Vai's. Then again, they're both awfully good, so perhaps I'm nitpicking a bit....and I've always admired Vai's ability to go for it on a slow tune ("Call It Sleep," for example).

    For what it's worth, I think I like "Passion and Warfare" a little more than "Surfing with the Alien." But I like "Flying in a Blue Dream" more than either of them...I think it's Satriani's best work.

    >> My only gripe is: doesn't it really suck that Steve has seen fit to put >> vocals down on Fire Garden? > >I'm not sure that whatever Steve Vai "sees fit" to do with his musical >genius is not really for me to determine as "a good move" or "completely >unnecessary." But personally I like his voice and simultaneously hope he >doesn't do any singing on his next album. An artist is entitled to make >whatever changes within his art that he "sees fit" to make, and shouldn't >have to ask anyone's permission to do so. Just as The Artist himself. (aka >PRINCE)

    I was actually surprised to just to find out that the guy CAN sing, but that he can sing WELL. He gave himself some moderately difficult melodies to sing and I thought he was actually pretty convincing. It's like Satriani on "Flying," though -- because he's just a good guitarist, there's a significant population out there that doesn't want to hear him put the guitar away in lieu of a vocal. And Satriani isn't exactly Geoff Tate or anything up there -- he's got a simple, straightforward method of delivery. But on "I Believe," for example, I don't think there was a better way to communicate what he was doing. Plus, if that melody HAD been carried by the guitar, the solo that he does in there would have sounded a bit strange, not as gripping. I like people who are willing to pull anything out of their arsenal, so I've got no problem with Satriani or Vai singing.

    Five Gratuitous CD's: ===================== 1. Dream Theater: Awake 2. White Lion: Pride 3. Rush: A Farewell to Kings 4. Jethro Tull: Aqualung 5. Tony MacAlpine: Edge of Insanity

    Adam D. Barnhart adamb@cfmc.com ydnt85a@prodigy.com http://www.cfmc.com/adamb

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