YTSEJAM Digest 2668
Today's Topics:
1) Megadeth video clip
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
2) that other name on that disc
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
3) Fix for 96 boot
by "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
4) Rush and Shout Out...
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
5) RE: AOR disc
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
6) NEW Theater Of Dreams Magazine is out !!!
by "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
7) Message for Kevin White
by Melissa Bahr <emerald@goodnet.com>
8) Message for Wessel Marquering
by Melissa Bahr <emerald@goodnet.com>
9) Re: AOR disc (NDTC)
by HseJackBlt@aol.com
10) stuff
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
11) Rusheep
by Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
12) G3, Rush, Marillion, My Dying Bride...
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
13) Fates in SA
by Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
14) Fates Tickets on sale for Fort Worth Show
by Jason Skewes <jskewes@startext.net>
15) Re: AOR disc (NDTC)
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2667
by Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
17) Album of the Year
by Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
18) Fates 1st album art problem (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
19) Trader List
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:18:16 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Megadeth video clip
Message-ID: <33B0B828.2E59@auburn.net>
There is a cool clip of Megadeth playing the X-Treme Games theme song at
http://espn.sportszone.com/xgames/summerx97/musicpoll.html
They have both video and audio files. I downloaded an .avi file that was
about 2.5 megs. It is good :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 02:06:44 +0000
From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: that other name on that disc
Message-ID: <33B07D34.13C6@sprynet.com>
"It's on Me" on the new Flotsam & Jetsam disc is in Twisted Sister's
font. Groovin huh?
Speaking of old school tunes, I missed Ratt tonight in New Orleans. Dang
it. That sucks.....
I too tried to find the new Divine Regale today and after calling
several stores and explaining that it's not spelled Devine Regal I gave
up. I'll go looking for it eventually.
Um..i'm running away now, wait a second...one more thing...could someone
send me the tracklist to the new Enchant "time lost" CD? If so thanks...
later
Phillip
Cool CD of the day: Conception "Flow"
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 02:06:51 -0500
From: "The Notorious B.I.G. S.W.I.F.T.Y." <swifty@auburn.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fix for 96 boot
Message-ID: <33B0C38A.164B@auburn.net>
> Answering to the question of a jammer, "the fix for 96" 2 CD boot is the
> show from Providence 12.12.96. The sound is not good, just average. It
> includes 5 new songs (you all know about them!). The two bonus tracks are
> taken from a Mike and John clinic in holland, and the sound is awful!
> As a conclusion, I would say that this boot is not worth 60 dollars, but
> it's the only one with the new songs... So make your own opinion.
It might be the only CD with the new songs, but it's not the only place
you can get them. If you've absolutely GOT to have them, don't buy this
CD! Set up a trade with someone who has a Fix tape instead. It will save
you much money, and you will have committed a sin that will have
sentenced you to a lesser degree of hell :)
Mark Peters
swifty@auburn.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 00:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush and Shout Out...
Message-ID: <v02130501afd6190307b6@[206.250.103.19]>
Hey all... I just wanted to comment on a Rush Boot I just picked up, it is
called Rush Hour. It is really early, 1974. Previously the majority of
the Rush stuff I had heard was Exit, Presto, Moving Pics, Hemisphres, and
their newer stuff. This thing is a concert between their 1st and 2nd
albums and it sounds like they are playing to a crowd of like 15 people.
Oh and whoever said they sound like Led Zep, you are right. Geddy sounds
like he really wants to be Robert Plant. But some of the songs are pretty
cool (Fly By Night and Working Man).
Hey Dr. Mosh you going to hit the Lakewood Fates Warning concert? I think
I might hit that one unless a huge group is going to Corona... Email me...
-Shane
____________________________________________________________________________
Student: So Master, is the soul immortal or not? Do we survive our
bodily death or do we get annihilated? Do we really reincarnate?
Does our soul split up into component parts which get recycled,
or do we as a single unit enter the body of a biological
organism? And do we retain our memories or not? Or is the
doctrine of reincarnation false? Is perhaps the Christian
notion of survival more correct? And if so, do we get bodily
resurrected, or does our soul enter a purely Platonic spiritual
realm?
Sage: Your breakfast is getting cold.
"Have you had your Buddha Nature today?"
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:03:11 -0700
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: AOR disc
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970625080311Z-2076@ms.Kallback.com>
> Just curious.... I've seen this abbreviation come up a lot
>lately. What does AOR stand for anyway?
Afraid of Raisins-new prog-metal-polka from Minnesota
>
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:18:26 +0200
From: "D. Schoen" <denis.schoen@tip.nl>
To: "Ytse Jam Mailinglist" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: NEW Theater Of Dreams Magazine is out !!!
Message-ID: <m0wgnLU-000FYRC@helium.tip.nl>
Hello Jammerz !
The new issue of Theater Of Dreams (#6) is out now and allready shipped to
our subscribers !!
For all the other jammers who haven't heard or seen this 3 montly fanzine,
this is the time to subscribe !
fanmag # 6 has the following issue's:
*Interview with JP
*concert reviews on 14-04-97/15-04-97/16-04-97/19-04-97
*Guitar clinic JP 03-05-97/Koln
*review French FCconvention (written by Lemur Voice's Marcel Coenen !)
*reviews on the latest albums of Spock's Beard, FW, and Enchant.
*Collectors Corners (Lots of DT boots)
*Pictures of the Nightmare Cinema appearance
*and many more DT contents !
Printed on glossy paper in complete full colour !!!
How to subscribe ?
**********************
For Holland: Send 30 guilders (registered recommended !) to the following
adress:
Theater Of Dreams
Postbus 1597
2003 BP Haarlem
Holland.
OR: Send the same amount of money to the following Bankaccounts:
Postbank
Rekening nummer: 7010858
To: R.J.M Sardaro
OR:
ABN/Amro Heemstede
Rekening nummer: 56 34 13 794
To: R.J.M Sardaro
Outside Holland: Send 32.50 guilders to the above mentioned adress along
with your complete adress.
Alltough it's written in the dutch language it's a "Must have " for every
serious DTFreak !
DO NOT MISS OUT THIS SPECIAL TOD ISSUE !!!!
Denis schoen
Ps: Jason Breitweg, please contact me !!!
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:57:30 -0700 (MST)
From: Melissa Bahr <emerald@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Message for Kevin White
Message-ID: <199706250857.BAA12417@goodnet.com>
Kevin White- I tried to email you but for some reason it would not go
through. I checked on your PT cd and I am going to resend it on Tuesday.
If you have any questions please get in touch with me.
- Melissa Bahr - emerald@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:59:38 -0700 (MST)
From: Melissa Bahr <emerald@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Message for Wessel Marquering
Message-ID: <199706250859.BAA12599@goodnet.com>
Wessel Marquering- I tried to email you but for some odd reason it would
not go through. Maybe I have your address wrong. Anyways I checked on your
PT cd and it should be going out sometime this week. If you have any
questions please email me to let me know. Take Care!
- Melissa Bahr - emerald@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 05:06:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: HseJackBlt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: AOR disc (NDTC)
Message-ID: <970625050641_1689181346@emout18.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 97-06-24 22:47:33 EDT,
zimbobmaniacalphysiopsychowarelephantitus@juno.com (Scott R Luttringer)
writes:
<< Just curious.... I've seen this abbreviation come up a lot
lately. What does AOR stand for anyway? >>
Album-oriented rock.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 03:21:43 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970625032135.00706f30@cats.ucsc.edu>
Hey, don't know if this was mentioned, but I found a JP "Rock Discipline"
Book and CD at my local music store. It's supposed to be pretty much the
audio and score for the video, but since I haven't seen that, I don't know
what they cut out. Pretty neat, tho, even for a keyboardist like me.
I'm kinda glad that FW sin't touring in the Bay Area yet. With me leaving
for England for 5 weeks next monday, missing Drain STH and Enchant will be
enough sorrow. Missing a fates show might push me over the edge. ;)
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__ ~Chris
\_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
/__||__\
// \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all"
\| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray"
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:33:58 -0500
From: Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rusheep
Message-ID: <33B11E46.38BD@ix.netcom.com>
On Tue, 24 Jun D-man wrote:
>Congrats. Welcome to the fold. :)
Baaaaaaa
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:52:39 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: G3, Rush, Marillion, My Dying Bride...
Message-ID: <199706251352.AA13470@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
Does anyone in New Jersey know a place to get those damn double CD
cases? I have no place to put my Lords of Sound disc!
Bafu said:
>How the $@%#!&? did he do those wacky drill-noises live?
I assume you mean the "lizard-down-the-throat" technique as Joe called
in in one interview. It's accomplished by playing a note with the whammy
bar depressed (but not suicidal :) ) and simultaneously releasing the
bar and sliding up the neck so the pitch is maintained. Impossible as
fuck to do, but he can do it every time. I'm only sorry I wasn't closer
to see those legato runs...
On KWS:
>lord knows he's heard it to his face more than once.
I hope Swifty doesn't mind me quoting a private message to the Jam, but
he made a great point. The best blues music comes with age and
experience. Once Kenny Wayne has both, I agree he'll be a much better
musician and far less of a clone. For now he adds to the genre something
it needs: a fresh young face to attract younger listeners and players.
>He's not exactly the frontman.
I think this was part of the problem with the act for me. I couldn't pay
attention to any of the players as they didn't interest me all that much
until Kenny Wayne soloed. The downside of Vai's act is that ALL the
players interest me too much... :)
On improvisation:
>That free aspect is part of the reason I love Dream Theater's shows so
>much.
Agreed! I appreciate the fact that Steve didn't just play the songs as
on the album. I was just a bit disappointed that it wasn't as impromptu
as I had thought. I can be naive at times :P. But this is the exact
aspect of a live show that makes DT awesome: CiA9ITG, the Awake Heavy
Jam, the covers medleys; these are what make DT so good each time you
see them. Then they'll pull out a song like Scarred that you never
thought you'd hear and is far better live...
DT is probably the best live ACT out there. The best live PERFORMANCE
was Queensryche on the PL tour, IMHO. Best live SHOW would be last
fall's G3. The differences are subtle and can probably only be
understood through deep hypnosis and a good deal of Southern
Comfort...:)
>The only reason people might not think that of Petrucci is because he
>SPEAKS to his fans and lets them know he's human
And that there are some songs where he doesn't wank at all. Doing Purple
Rain at a clinic is cool as shit. I can see Vai doing this too, just not
for any albums or at a live show. He just wants to push the envelope,
which is fine by me. But I'd love another song like Sisters.
And to the guy looking for a Rush album to buy: anything but the first
and last albums (Rush and Test for Echo). The high point being smack in
the middle: Permanent Waves. This or A Farewell To Kings should be right
up your alley.
Thanks to MMO for the info on the karaoke option on stereos. Quite
informative! That HDCD stuff was beyond me, but thanks Tim...
>2. Marallion - Made Again
All right, I imagine Itchy will be all over this, but I thought I'd go
to the Jam. I *really* like the song Easter on the Uncovered boot. Is
this representative of Marillion? If so, and I like this song, what CD
should I pick up? (In other words, which CD is Easter on?) I saw some of
their CDs at the Princeton Record Exchange, but they were all over $16.
I only pay that much for boots and imports (or Bahr discs :) ).
Also, can someone recommend a My Dying Bride album? I remember the talk
about them being good, but wasn't in the frame of mind for goth-metal at
the time.
--
______________________________________________________________
"Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh..."
-Yoda, the Jedi Master
______________________________________________________________
Andrew Forcier
a.k.a. Buck Stodgers
Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit
names or request a copy, mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:59:53 -0500
From: Chip Alexander <tca.sdi@ix.netcom.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates in SA
Message-ID: <33B12459.1762@ix.netcom.com>
On tue Jun24 someone wrote:
>These are the latest Fates tour dates (some unconfirmed):
<snip>
>07/31 San Antonio Texas White Rabbit ?
Fuck yeah!
Anyone interested in going to this show email me for info or directions
Here's the club's info:
White Rabbit - 2410 N St Mary's - (210)737-2221
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:11:07 -0500
From: Jason Skewes <jskewes@startext.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates Tickets on sale for Fort Worth Show
Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19970625091107.007ae5f0@startext.net>
Tickets for the Fates Warning show in Fort Worth, TX on August 2 are on
sale now!
I just got mine!
The show is at Caravan of Dreams in downtown Fort Worth.
It's general admission, Standing Room Only.
Show starts at 9 pm. No word on any opening acts.
Later!
Jason
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:24:45 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: AOR disc (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199706251424.XAA30084@ma1.seikyou.or.jp>
At 2:18 AM 97.6.25 -0700, HseJackBlt@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 97-06-24 22:47:33 EDT,
>zimbobmaniacalphysiopsychowarelephantitus@juno.com (Scott R Luttringer)
>writes:
>
><< Just curious.... I've seen this abbreviation come up a lot
> lately. What does AOR stand for anyway? >>
>
>Album-oriented rock.
REALLY???????
I think it's "ADULT ORIENTED ROCK". That means ROCK MUSIC WITHOUT NUTS.
5 latest discs rotated in my CD player.
1.Reef/GLOW (epic Sony)
2.Skid Row/Breakin' Down (Euro) (Atlantic Germany)
3.Ocean Colour Scene/ Hundred Mile High City (MCA)
4.Hughes/Thrall / Hughes/Thrall (epic Sony)
5.Ten/Ten (MVP/Zero)
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-Keiji Nishihara
Doshisha Uni. Electric/Electronic Material Lab. Semiconductor ARRAY
KYOTO JAPAN
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
tq0139@mail4.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:27:03 -0300 (EST)
From: Daniel Vasconcelos Gomes <danielvg@sel.eesc.sc.usp.br>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2667
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970625111051.866A-100000@POCAHONTAS>
Hey
1)for Brazillians:
I have to think that you all Brazillian DT fans knows that they will
play here in Monsters Of Rock concert at August 30 (I think , but I'm not
sure about), at the same night that Angra, Manowar, Dio, Priest, Whitesnake,
and type o negative will play. I would like to know if this date is
correct.Please let me know.
2)I heard at ytsejam channel Drusillius saying that some cd stores,are
saying that new DT will be released at July.Is this really true?Or these
stores are just making fun with our pain?:=)
3)Last week i wrote something that, I guess, offended Helloween/Michael Kiske
fans.Sorry so.But I have some problems with this new Helloween, basicaly
because something I read in Angra FAQ.Michael Weitak said in an interview
that the guys from Angra would be better playing soccer instead of playing
metal. This thing pissed me off.Made me angry. I can't hear these new
Helloween cds. But I have to say, both Keeper's are classics!!!
(But I'm sure that they are good because Kai Hansen was playing with them)
4)Cds I'm looking for:
Enchant:Wounded
Magellan:Test Of Wills
Symphony X:Tragedy Wings of destiny
Anything from Cynic
Anything from Death
Anything from Renaissance
Anything from Triumph
Its not easy to find out them.
Daniel V.Gomes
(aka Aragorn)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8551
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:39:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Albert Balkiewicz <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Album of the Year
Message-ID: <199706251439.KAA23740@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU>
I do believe that I will be doing the following:
-cancelling my subscription to Rolling Stone (yes, I subscribe
to it)
-absolutely ignoring ANY album reviews in the mag.....
The most recent issue of RS (the one with our lovable Spice
Girls on the cover - that should have been a sign already)
has a review of Faith No More's "Album of the Year". Now
granted, I'm not a die-hard FNM fan, but I enjoyed the album
and think it's great. But the reviewer proceeded to put this
uninformed, biased spiel on how bad the album is (1.5/4 stars)
and had the nerve to say (I'm paraphrasing here, but it's close)
"And now FNM's new work is a combination of <something> and
ugh (or some other bad sound spelled out) prog rock keyboard
sound........"
The rest of the review goes on to spit out retarded opinions
based on nothing substantial music-wise......easily, the most
retarded thing I have ever read describing an album....I'm
sure there has been more, but this is one that I recognized,
having heard the album......
what a crock - I should really try
and become an album reviewer, just so
true music fans don't get their
intelligence insulted.......
-Al
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I inhale the sun...........I exhale the absence of light
I am the number One..........burning.
^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^
email: balkiewi@njmsa.umdnj.edu the_prof@bigfoot.com
HOMEPAGE:http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/9280/index.html
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:58:55 -0700
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fates 1st album art problem (NDTC)
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970625175855.0068f674@pop.pipeline.com>
Partha asked about the "no thanks" section in "The Spectre
Within" 's liner notes. I have no idea what the Anthrax
bit was about, but as far as the "Night On Brocken" art
problem - that I know. There are three versions of the
NOB art: The first, which must have been an unmitigated
disaster, was the "witch burning at the stake" album cover.
I have this on vinyl, and it is pretty bad. I guess there
was a second one, more cartoonish in nature. I seem to remember
seeing this about 8 or 9 years ago. The last one is the simple
full moon cover. I think that if a band has to make three
different album covers to one album, that qualifies as a
"no thanks" situation!
Detroit Red Wings - 1996-97 Stanley Cup Champions
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:09:10 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Trader List
Message-ID: <199706251508.AA20130@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
See that address in my sig? Traders can start using it. I compiled the
list, and its up for distribution. I'm still tinkering with it a bit
though. All I ask is that if you request it once, HOLD ON TO IT! Save me
a little work, please. Of course, there will be updates, I'm sure. But I
will only be doing updates on a monthly basis, so at least keep it for a
month...
Just so you all know, I changed the rules a bit. Since only five good
traders had their names submitted more than once, I decided just to go
with a *one-submission* policy. If your name is sent in once, it goes on
the list. Otherwise we'd all be asking five people to trade with us.
Next, do not mail bomb the people on the list asking for trades. This
list should be for use if there is a question over someone you have
initiated trade talks with (criminy, I feel like Steinbrenner saying
that...). If I find out that this list is being misused on a large
scale, I won't maintain it. If you just want to know if your name made
it on there, you can ask for it for that reason too.
Also, the mixed response section now includes a condition that if you
completed the trade, but felt the *service or materials* were
unsatisfactory. This does not mean that if you thought the recording was
poor quality, just the time frame the materials were sent in and the
manner in which they were sent (i.e., not the type of tape you
requested, no cases sent when requested, poor mailing packaging).
I decided to add a section for reputable CD distributors. So far, I
have only put KTS (closing, I know) and Knights of the Round on there.
Feel free to make submissions, but ONLY if you have used that
distributor in the last year, and ONLY if you have the web address for
the dealer. No non-web distributors will be allowed.
--
______________________________________________________________
"Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh..."
-Yoda, the Jedi Master
______________________________________________________________
Andrew Forcier
a.k.a. Buck Stodgers
Maintainer of the List of Ytse-Traders of Repute; To submit
names or request a copy, mailto:andrew.forcier@prudential.com
--------------------------------------------------------------
--List Manager--
The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List
For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/
for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com
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