YTSEJAM Digest 2667
Today's Topics:
1) KTS comes through...
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
2) Tourniquet CD for sale
by Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
3) Bellardine.
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
4) Bass (NDTC, almost!)
by Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
5) Fix for 96 boot!
by Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
6) Re: Last Decade
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
7) Re: Rush and Graduating
by "Oppurtunistic Fairy-Godmother" <cyradis1@hotmail.com>
8) FAQ rules once and for all!!!
by Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
9) Re: Enchant in Bay Area / upcumming QR show in L.A.
by Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
10) Re: Shadow Gallery news
by edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III)
11) QR-EMI, Karaoke
by The Artist Currently Known as MMO <mmo@direct.ca>
12) Singing with your "other" end; casual joking; the 4th DT fan; WSOU
by caber1@concentric.net
13) ANGRA says something about DT
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
14) FIX FOR '96 CD
by Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
15) Will DT tour with Ryche????
by Charlie Patel <patelc@ro.com>
16) Fates Warning - U.S. Tour Dates
by Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
17) Rush/Camden show!
by Ed Smith <ecs88@voicenet.com>
18) HDCD
by Tim Templeton <"ttempleton@worldnet.att.net"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
19) Re: Fates Warning - U.S. Tour Dates
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:50:07 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: KTS comes through...
Message-ID: <199706242048.AA12998@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
So, as I said before, I finally got my KTS discs. WOO_HOO!
Unfortunately, they replaced my SRV order with an Extreme disc. Not that
I didn't put that down as back up, I was just hoping for some new Stevie
Ray... So any trades I had lined up can now come into being. Sorry
Swifty, guess you'll just have to settle on something else...
Why didn't anyone warn me about Lords of Sound? I practically screamed
when LtL jump-edited. But there is Eve and To Live Forever to make up
for it a little. Overall a good boot. I also got INXS and Collective
Soul, which I'm sure no one wants to hear about.
Now I just have to wait for all my Bahr and Colberg stuff to get here
from various sources. I am so broke... I need some will power. Can
anyone spare some?
And yes, my sig just keeps growing and growing... :P
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:12:34 -0400
From: Mark Metzger <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "'(ytsejam)'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tourniquet CD for sale
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=bostech%l=CARRIER-970624211234Z-9758@carrier.rd1.bostech.com>
I have heard a lot mentioned recently on the jam about the band
Tourniquet. I have a CD from them that I would be willing to part with
for $US7, US postpaid. If anyone is interested, let me know and I will
>get the particulars. I know that the CD has a purple
>CD cover. I got it on a recommendation from another jammer and it was a bit
>heavy for my tastes.
>
>Later,
Mark Metzger
>mmetzger@bostech.com
>
>PS - I now should be an officially registered "good Ytse trader" ......
PPS - Dale, I tried to e-mail you back at that whacky new e-mail address
and it *bounced* !!
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:52 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bellardine.
Message-ID: <199706242123.OAA13446@odin.ax.com>
Hello,
Chris Bellardine. If you're out there, mail me. You wanted tapes?
--
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"Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh..."
-Yoda, the Jedi Master
______________________________________________________________
Andrew Forcier
a.k.a. Buck Stodgers
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:24:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christian Albert Schulze <schulze2@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bass (NDTC, almost!)
Message-ID: <199706242124.RAA01575@brickbat9.mindspring.com>
Hi amigos...
Not happy about being a mediocre guitar player, I decided to also buy a
bass... so I would appreciate if any of you could give me some info on the
sound characteristics of each type of wood. I know all that stuff
guitar-wise, but bass is a new venue for me... I think the most common types
are alder, mahogany, maple (for necks) and koa. I think I'm going for a 5 or
6-string bass.
Could anybody also help me out with the specs on John Myung's Tung and
Yamaha basses (see, D-man, I read the FAQ first hehehe)? What kind of wood
for the body/neck/fretboard, as well as the eletronics (probably Bartolini,
from what I heard)?
If the answer is NDTC, you can e-mail me privately... Thanks
~KillMary
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 18:52:21 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Stephane AUZILLEAU <auzzy@zen.dedal.fr.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fix for 96 boot!
Message-ID: <199706241652.SAA13521@zen.dedal.fr.net>
Hi there,
Answering to the question of a jammer, "the fix for 96" 2 CD boot is the
show from Providence 12.12.96. The sound is not good, just average. It
includes 5 new songs (you all know about them!). The two bonus tracks are
taken from a Mike and John clinic in holland, and the sound is awful!
As a conclusion, I would say that this boot is not worth 60 dollars, but
it's the only one with the new songs... So make your own opinion.
Stephane Auzilleau
Your Majesty (French DT zine) editor
.. and DT bootlegs collector!
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:01:49 -0600
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Last Decade
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970624145914.007efe90@postoffice.syspac.com>
At 11:21 AM 6/24/97 -0700, Don Compton wrote:
>Also, can anyone help me out figuring out those fonts on the Flotsam And
>Jetsam CD "High". I can figure out the Metallica one (Monster), High
>(AC/DC), Your Hands (Van Halen) and High Noon (Green Jello- I think).
Uh, it's the Misfits, I think :)
Here goes!!
FINAL STEP -- Iron Maiden
HALLUCINATIONAL -- Slayer
IT'S ON ME -- No clue. Maybe Stryper?
HIGH NOON -- The Misfits
YOUR HANDS -- Van Halen
MONSTER -- Metallica
LUCKY DAY -- Judas Priest
TOAST -- Kiss
HIGH -- AC DC
EVERYTHING -- Scorpions
RUNNING FORK DUDE -- hehe, that's a cool song :)
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:47:12 PDT
From: "Oppurtunistic Fairy-Godmother" <cyradis1@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Rush and Graduating
Message-ID: <199706242147.OAA03071@f39.hotmail.com>
Yeah I just graduated earlier this month. About damn time, too.
Graduated on the same night Rush was at riverport, so I couldn't go to
the rush concert. (Talk about your fucking timing.)
For the guy who just got his first rush album: Awesome band! A lot of
their early stuff prior to Fly By Night is a lot more like Led Zeppelin
than anything else, but it gets better than a Zeppelin clone.. Try A
Farewell to Kings or 2112.. They're awesome..
Alison
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 00:24:15 +0200
From: Sebastjan Videc <Sebastjan.Videc@uni-mb.si>
To: "No religion, just music and DT" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FAQ rules once and for all!!!
Message-ID: <33B0490F.12EC04EB@uni-mb.si>
> <Aragorn> Portnow usually says that DT biggest influences are Maiden and Rush
> <StDeVil> saw the new picture of DT...
> <Aragorn> I would include Yes
> <StDeVil> DS looks like Andy Garcia...
> <StDeVil> :)))
> <Aragorn> hehehehe
> <Aragorn> he is weird
> <StDeVil> :)
> <Aragorn> but he can play
> <Aragorn> :)
> <StDeVil> I have to hear him play keys... haven't heard him yet...
> <Aragorn> did u hear ACoS?
> <StDeVil> I think his much more jazz influenced, while Kev was more classical... :) you can hear classic in Kev's parts :)
> <Aragorn> yeah
> *** Head (laussade@hd38-219.hil.compuserve.com) has joined #ytsejam
> <StDeVil> Aha... I like the stuff, but all parts were already written by Kev
> <Peace> Hi Head
> <Aragorn> DS studied at Berklee school
> <Head> deep enough to dive
> <Aragorn> hey Ben
> <StDeVil> I know...
> <Head> yo
> <StDeVil> KM did Fredonia college
> <StDeVil> :))
> <StDeVil> FAQ rules
> <Aragorn> hehehe
> <StDeVil> Hi Head
> <StDeVil> :)))
Who said FAQ never gets the attention it deserves??? :)))
Thank you D-Man!!!
P.S. Hope WhiteWolf will soon fully recover!
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Let the light surround you!!! ->>
Kevin Moore
Sebastjan Videc aka StDeVil on IRC
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2001 - A space Oddysey
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:59:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <Ytse@cris.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Enchant in Bay Area / upcumming QR show in L.A.
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970624145529.20488A-100000@viking.cris.com>
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Scott Cook wrote:
> Enchant will be playing at Club Kaos in Fremont on July 12.
Okay, I've been planning on attending this event for a few weeks now, but
I'm new to the Bay Area and I don't know how Club Kaos operates. Anyone
know if I need to buy a ticket in advance or not? Thanks a lot.
Rick Audet
Dolby Labs
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:37:29 -0400
From: edwilk@juno.com (Ed Wilk III)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Shadow Gallery news
Message-ID: <19970624.213047.3446.0.EdWilk@juno.com>
>Shadow Gallery has been rehearsing wih Joe Novollo, an outstanding
>drummer who
>has played with the likes of Greg Howe, and Jens Johannson. The band
>is within
>weeks of recording material for their third release, which is
>tentatively
>titled "Tyranny". I've been told by Chris Ingles that Tyranny, "will
>deliver a
>heavy punch with a progressive feel."
Thanks man. :-) That news has been there for about.. oh at least
6 months now. :-)
Ed
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 19:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Artist Currently Known as MMO <mmo@direct.ca>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: QR-EMI, Karaoke
Message-ID: <199706250211.TAA23046@edam.direct.ca>
According to the Screaming in Digital Webpage, when EMI shut down, QR
signed a deal with Virgin Records.
With the karaoke feature on some stereos, i believe the way it tries to get
rid of the vocals is that it goes into mono, and it reverses the L or R channel
polarity - that way, by the law of superposition, any signal panned directly
to the center position will cancel itself out. The reason that it doesnt work
consistently is that in pop music, there is typically a stereo reverb on the
vocals, so you still hear that. Mine seems to work best on Slayer albums,
probably because Rick Rubin keeps the vocals completely dry and panned
directly in the center. To the jammer who said it really works to bring the
guitars out on Rush albums, it is probably because Alex used to do 2 takes
of rhythm guitar and pan them L and R respectively.
Another jammer posted and suggested that a bandpass eq is used, and that
may also be the case, in conjunction with above.
MMO
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:58:46 -0700
From: caber1@concentric.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Singing with your "other" end; casual joking; the 4th DT fan; WSOU
Message-ID: <33B0B396.2F1D@concentric.net>
Bruce Forest wrote:
> For fun I put up a photo I got of Dream Theater circa 1986, from the back of
> the majesty demos cd. If you've never seen Chris Collins here's your
> chance.. btw, does he drive a truck for a living these days? :)
>
> go here: -enjoy!
> http://www.busprod.com/bforst/profound/majesty.htm
Oh man, this photo was really funny for me. The two Johns are holding up
their guitars and Mike is holding his sticks, Kevin is balancing on one
foot, and Chris is picking his butt...makes me wonder why DT got rid of
him ;-)
[that was a JOKE & don't flame me or tell me he is good, because I've
never heard him]
Andrew Miller wrote:
> (for anyone that may be lost right now, finneus gauge is the new
> project by Chris Buzby, echolyn's former keyboardist)
I'm *still* lost. ;) is that a pun? Hmm, let me think...
Okay the reason I'm even typing this up. I was just reading through the
last 50 jams or so (whew). And I came up to a post about the 4 types of
DT fans by D-Man. While he got the first 3 right but he couldn't
remember what his orginal 4th was. Well I remeber his orginal post from
when I first joined and the 4th is the pop fan. He explained that there
people who like DT for The Silent Man and the like.
Oh yeah I was listening to WSOU(89.5) in NJ last night and heard
Emperor(sorry forgot the song), but man it was exactly like whoever it
was who posted the visual music of black metal. But it was fun to listen
to.
Well that's it from me.
John McCabe
caber1@concentric.net
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 23:51:10 -0400
From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: ANGRA says something about DT
Message-ID: <199706250352.UAA17753@odin.ax.com>
Here's what Andre Matos from ANGRA had to say about DREAM THEATER
in an interview:
"That is one of the best groups at the moment, consisting of musicians who
are excellent and creative also! This is a group which opened new horizons,
above all for groups like us. The audience of Dream Theater is capable of
listening to our music. It is one of the groups that I like very much."
Also, my guestbook is back up and running. So for the 900 jammers
who haven't signed it yet, get your asses over there :-)
at Music in Progress:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257
Elv
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:54:45 -0700
From: Steven Thum <sthum@sunflowr.usd.edu>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: FIX FOR '96 CD
Message-ID: <33B0B2A5.395D@sunflowr.usd.edu>
I have heard about, and seen on somebody's web site, a bootleg CD "The
Fix for '96". Where can I get one? Can someone make me a copy?
Any info on this would be appreciated.
I need my FIX for '96!!!!! (even though it may be a little late)
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:56:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Charlie Patel <patelc@ro.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Will DT tour with Ryche????
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970624225601.25291B-100000@sh1.ro.com>
Does anyone have any updates on the possibility of DT touring with
Queensryche?
Please send replies to patelc@ro.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 21:03:41 -0700
From: Michael Kizer <mkizer@goodnet.com>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>, metalblade@arastar.com
Subject: Fates Warning - U.S. Tour Dates
Message-ID: <33B0989D.7890D72A@goodnet.com>
These are the latest Fates tour dates (some unconfirmed):
1997 U.S. Tour Dates (As of June 24, 1997):
Date City State Venue
Address/Phone Ticket Info
----- ---------------- ------------- -------------------
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07/24 Corona California Showcase Theater 683 S MAIN
ST TicketMaster
(714) 740-2000
07/25 Lakewood California Northern Lites ?
07/27 Phoenix Arizona Mason Jar 2303
E.INDIAN SCHOOL RD TicketMaster
(602) 784-4444
07/31 San Antonio Texas White Rabbit ?
08/01 Houston Texas The Abyss 5913
WASHINGTON AVE TicketMaster
(713) 629-3700
08/02 Fort Worth Texas Caravan Of Dreams ?
08/08 West Springfield Virginia Jaxx Nite Club ?
Keep checking the web site for updates!
--
~Michael Kizer (Tucson, AZ) -- mkizer@goodnet.com
URL: http://www.goodnet.com/~mkizer
Fates Warning (Island In The Stream) / Dream Theater ("Unofficial" Song
Book)
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 01:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ed Smith <ecs88@voicenet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush/Camden show!
Message-ID: <199706250555.BAA24689@mail3.voicenet.com>
Rush absolutly put on a brillant show. They exceeded my expectations, and I
thought that it would be a great show. They were full of energy, they were
tight as a fresh cherry ....... The sound was also great and the visual
effects did not dissapoint. Neil's solo brought the fans to their feet. I
thought the best songs performed were Red Barchetta, Leave that thing alone,
and of course 2112. I heard that Rush is taping every show and plan for a
live album after the tour, but I don't think that has much to do with their
performance, they just seem to be enjoying themselves.
5 discs that are a must
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1. G3 - Live in Concert
2. Marallion - Made Again
3. Enchant - Wounded
4. Victor
5. Live - Secret Samahdi
---------------------------Brian - You are dripping---------------------------
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:45:28 -0700
From: Tim Templeton <"ttempleton@worldnet.att.net"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: HDCD
Message-ID: <19970625055017.AAA16253@LOCALNAME>
> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Richard Karsmakers wrote:
>
> > Just a small question for the techno people out there: On Megadeth's "Trust"
> > CD single it says stuff like "HDCD", High Definition Compatible Digital. What's
> > all this about? Don't go *too* technical on me, please. If this is not the
> > stuff that's supposed to be done on the 'Jam, please email me privately.
>
> Well, the "Cryptic Writings" CD (hint, hint, I *just* got it!)
> also has these "HDCD" logo.
>
> I don't know, but I think that the master for the CD was done with
> 20 or 22 bits of resolution before generating the CD master...
>
> But I'm not certain of this... If anyone has more information
> about this, please post to the jam.
If you want the nuts & bolts on HDCD, go to this site:
http://www.audioweb.com/newsstand/listener/1-3/HDCD.html
Here's a quick little excerpt from the site (for those without a
browser):
> In a nutshell, HDCD is a multi-front approach to making significant resolution gains in digitized
> music without introducing noise or distortions. It does this via a set of processes that, rather than being
> tacked on to the existing 16-bit, 44.1 Kilohertz process, wrap themselves, DNA-like, around and within
> those existing mechanisms.
> A simplified look at the entire HDCD loop, from start to finish, would reveal the following: at the
> recording or mastering stage, the naturally analog music signal is sampled at a much higher rate than
> the industry-standard 44.1 KHz (well above 100 KHz, in fact), and is encoded using a great many more
> discrete sampling values than are presently available--that is, greater than the 65,000-some-odd values
> afforded by standard 16-bit digital.
> Of course since all of that information can't be used in a standard compact disc, decisions must be
> made as to which of the "extra" information should be retained, and which can be discarded. To that
> end, Pacific Microsonics has developed algorithms that make these decisions during A-to-D encoding.
> The information is then brought into the standard disc-data format in a couple of ways--one of
> which, it is said, allows for some additional sonic information to be decoded by standard, non-HDCD
> players and processors. (Quite understandably, Pacific Microsonics is tight-lipped regarding their
> system's precise encode and storage scheme.) The HDCD process also makes some use of 16-bit
> digital's LSB (or least significant bit, the final binary digit in any given word--which, in the case of digital
> sound, defines the smallest possible step in values that can be assigned to a sample) to carry both
> additional information and coded instructions on how that information is to be used later on, during
> digital-to-analog conversion.
> On the other side--the decode side--of the equation is Pacific Microsonic's proprietary decoder
> chip, that which is central to the products now being released by HDCD licensees. It is here that the
> extra encoded sonic data and instructions are unravelled, making for greater resolution of musical detail
> in the replay of HDCD-encoded discs--not to mention, it is suggested, reproduction quality that is at
> least the equal of all competing processes in the replay of standard CDs.
> All of that may or may not imply the very important fact that HDCD has been developed--and is
> being released--in two related but separable stages: the HDCD process as applied to recording and
> analog-to-digital conversion; and the process as applied to digital-to-analog conversion and playback. It
> is that very deliberate structure that allows the use of HDCD-encoded discs on non-HDCD-equipped
> players, as well as the use of standard discs with players and processors equipped with the HDCD
> decoding engine. But of course, Pacific Microsonics suggests that when both halves of the equation are
> put together, the quality of recorded sound playback surpasses anything heretofore available--from any
> technology.
Tim Templeton
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 23:15:36 -0700
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Fates Warning - U.S. Tour Dates
Message-ID: <19970624.231707.12310.2.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
What's wrong with these guys? Don't they know where the Bay Area is? ;-)
If they need any help they could call me and I'll give them directions.
:->
Scott
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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Michael Kizer
<mkizer@goodnet.com> writes:
>These are the latest Fates tour dates (some unconfirmed):
>
>1997 U.S. Tour Dates (As of June 24, 1997):
>------------------------ --------------
>07/24 Corona California Showcase Theater 683 S
>07/25 Lakewood California Northern Lites
>07/27 Phoenix Arizona Mason Jar
>07/31 San Antonio Texas White Rabbit
>08/01 Houston Texas The Abyss
>08/02 Fort Worth Texas Caravan Of Dreams
>08/08 West Springfield Virginia Jaxx Nite Club
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