YTSEJAM Digest 2671
Today's Topics:
1) Deutchland Uber Alles
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
2) Quo Vadiz
by Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
3) ONE LAST TIME!!!!
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
4) Re: ONE LAST TIME!!!!
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
5) Adam is now manning the phones at the psychic connection hotline
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
6) I am going to commit treason here.
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
7) Re: FATES WARNING IN CA AND AZ
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2670
by Ack! <stu3801@sun.cc.westga.edu>
9) Shadow Gallery (NDTC)
by Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
10) Ytsejam Digest 2670
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
11) Those Jammers going to the Queensryche show
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
12) Derek
by Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
13) DT curiosities
by bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
14) to: Rogerio Brito
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com
15) QR show at Irvine Meadows
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2670
by Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com>
17) ATTENTION IRC PEOPLEZ
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
18) Regarding Angra...
by MTeiper@aol.com
19) Another Killer Concept Album: The Crimson Idol
by MTeiper@aol.com
20) To the bloke who wanted advice...
by Tim Caudill <symmetry@gate.usaor.net>
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:43:23 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Deutchland Uber Alles
Message-ID: <199706261643.JAA04137@main.cfmc.com>
>From: "Blevins, Mike" <BlevinsM@amsc.Belvoir.Army.Mil>
>
>Easter is on "Season's End", and the song is a fav of mine, too. For
>albums, though, I'd say get "Misplaced Childhood", "Clutching At
>Straws", or "Brave". Any of these is worth $16 - $20. I've listened to
>"Childhood" at least once a week for ten years...
I'll agree with "Misplaced Childhood," I'll REALLY agree with "Clutching at
Straws," which is my favorite album from the Marillion catalog. From the
Hogarth era, though, I'd opt for "Holidays in Eden," which I would actually
consider the second best of the Marillion records. I'll admit to holding
the minority opinion, though.
>From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
>Overall
>-------
>
>These guys know what a crowd wants to hear! They milked my titties dry :)
Very impressive! A dry Jon is a happy Jon!
>From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: AOR
>Message-ID: <v01520d03afd6d2af9e55@[207.90.117.68]>
>
>>I think it's "ADULT ORIENTED ROCK". That means ROCK MUSIC
>>WITHOUT NUTS.
>
>No, it does indeed mean "ALBUM oriented rock."
>
>Used to be singles dominantly, then the Beatles came along- first mainly
>singles, then more "album oriented." Albums were not the main deal until
>right around that time...
>
>That's where the name AOR comes from...though, now I'd agree with your
>statement about "without nuts." bolton, carey, and other drek...
Now there's that AAA music now (Adult Album Alternative), which is the
intersection of Nanci Griffith, Tori Amos, Pearl Jam, and Blues Traveler.
Some of that stuff (all of the bands I listed, anyhow) is actually quite
good. Some of it appeals to me somewhat less. VH-1, which has adapted
something of an AAA format in recent years, is actually a more interesting
listening experience than MTV now, which has become fairly monochromatic.
Five Gratutitous CD's:
======================
1. Rush: Fly By Night
2. Jan Akkerman: The Noise of Art
3. ZZ Top: Eliminator
4. Bad Religion: Bad Religion 80-85
5. Metal Church: Blessing in Disguise
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:14:48 -0700
From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Quo Vadiz
Message-ID: <199706261714.KAA04318@main.cfmc.com>
>From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
>
>Trust me their older stuff is muuuuuuuuuch better than that. And Bruce
>Dickinson (they're old singer) has better range, intonation, emotion... you
>name it, it's 10 times better than Blaze. You should get Powerslave, Piece
>of Mind, or Somewhere in time... that was Maiden's peak... and you should
>also consider getting Live after Death.... that CD, along with Metallica's
>'Kill 'em All' lit a fire under my guitar playing butt. i.e. I learned
>every song from beginning to end... then I moved on to Satriani :)
I'll agree with you that the mid-period of the band is probably their best
work (though I'd sandwich "Killers" between "Powerslave" and "Piece of Mind"
in rating the three best of their albums), but I actually think "The X
Factor" is a pretty good record. I prefer Dickenson, but Bailey's not that
bad, and the last album is actually very well-written. For what it's worth,
I'd say it sounds more like "Powerslave" than their last couple of records.
The band I was in for years covered a ton of Maiden songs -- we played
pretty much everything on "Live After Death" at one time or another. I'd
certainly recommend Steve Harris as a role model for budding bassists -- and
he's easier to get the hang of than Geddy Lee or Jeff Berlin.
Five Gratutious CD's:
=====================
1. Rush: Fly By Night
2. Metal Church: Blessing in Disguise
3. ELP: Pictures At An Exhibition
4. Kansas: Leftoverture
5. Pearl Jam: Vitalogy
Adam D. Barnhart
adamb@cfmc.com
ydnt85a@prodigy.com
http://www.cfmc.com/adamb
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:49:29 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ONE LAST TIME!!!!
Message-ID: <199706261749.AA06494@gateway2.prudential.com>
Hello,
For JP on Blind Melon:
>I went all around the hole lifting shadows ring but just couldn't find
>it..
Hey, try the FAQ. It works you know. If you check that first, you can
save yourself some searching, and save me some typing.
Someone in the market for a guitar said:
>the only book that had any DT songs was a compilation one with "Caught
>in a Web" and "Lie"... but it was for 7 strings... damn...
Just buy a 7-string then... :)
>*Still waiting for my discs from KTS... I ordered them around the end
>of May. How long do they normally take?
I ordered mine over the web on My 5. They arrived this past Monday.
Looks like seven weeks to me. Patience, son. They're well worth the
wait. Oh, and they didn't charge me yet either, and I GOT mine.:)
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@digital.dreamt.org>
To: A Pleasant Shade of Ytse <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: ONE LAST TIME!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970626142254.7495A-100000@digital.dreamt.org>
On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Buck Stodgers wrote:
> Hello,
> For JP on Blind Melon:
> >I went all around the hole lifting shadows ring but just couldn't find
> >it..
>
> Hey, try the FAQ. It works you know. If you check that first, you can
> save yourself some searching, and save me some typing.
Actually, the faq has a transcription of the article (what the Blind Melon
guys said), but it doesn't have John's response. Given the latest set of
requests for it, if anyone finds it, let me know, and I'll include it in
the faq. I know I've read John's response (probably on here), but I don't
have it.
-d
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 18:49:56 +0000
From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Adam is now manning the phones at the psychic connection hotline
Message-ID: <33B2B9D4.578D@mailstorm.dot.gov>
Adam:
>1. Dream Theater: Images and Words
>2. Weather Report: Heavy Weather
>3. Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin I
The guy is on a roll :)
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:11:35 PDT
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: paperlate@ansto.gov.au, bong@commline.com, ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I am going to commit treason here.
Message-ID: <199706261911.MAA26006@f4.hotmail.com>
What does everyone have against the Spice Girls? I mean, sure, they're
nothing to worship or anything, but they're not as horrible as
everyone's making them out to be. Wannabe was okay(but only okay) Say
You'll Be There was better, and that new song, 2 become 1 was really
pretty nice. Again, they're no Genesis, DM, or DT, but they're pretty
good for having success normally ascribed to bands like Hanson or Hootie
and the Blowfish, and they at least are shedding some light(albeit dim)
in a world of darkness.
BTW, what's this about a rumor that one of the Spice Girls used to be a
Spice Guy?
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 97 11:58:26 PST8
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: FATES WARNING IN CA AND AZ
Message-ID: <9705268673.AA867351861@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
>If you're going to Fates Warning July 24th in Corona, CA.
>If you're going to Fates Warning July 27th in Phoenix,
>AZ.
>And also we'll see if Fates plays at Northern Lites, Lakewood, CA.
>I WILL BE THERE!! E-MAIL ME... we'll rage!!
Well, I'll definately be at the Phoenix gig, and maybe even the CA
shows if I can swing a road trip. I know Nathan Bradley will also be
at the Phoenix show...
>I will be there with tons of bastages... :)
Regular bastages or fargin bastages? <G>
~Mike
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:53:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ack! <stu3801@sun.cc.westga.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2670
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970626175324.15803A-100000@sun>
How do I get off of this mailing list???
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Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 18:04:32 -0300
From: Marcelo Vanzin <vanzin@geocities.com>
To: Freaks R Us <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Shadow Gallery (NDTC)
Message-ID: <336A56E0.BFAEF52F@geocities.com>
Hi there!
I'd like to ask for the help of you guys. I'm in need of the lyrics for
SG's "Don't Ever Cry, Just Remember" song. No, I don't own the album
(yet), that's why I'm asking. Can someone please send it to me?
Thankya!
--
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|* http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/ *|
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytsejam Digest 2670
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:58:27 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Those Jammers going to the Queensryche show
Message-ID: <199706262258.PAA21293@goodnet.com>
To those Jammers going to the June 28th QR show, and also to Nate
Bradley's pad for the barbecue at 4 PM, you'll want to bring some extra
cash with you also. I can't say specifically why because it wouldn't be
fair to the non-locals, but it has something to do with Megadeth and
Queensryche. Hey, sometimes it pays to live in paradise. :)
Anyway I _will_ also be bringing some food to enjoy with all of
ya, as well as all the current CDs so those of you still waiting for
shipment can at least _hear_ the things. :) Take care all!!
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:01:56 -0700
From: Brian <DreamNDay@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Derek
Message-ID: <33B31F14.2FD0@dreamt.org>
> Oh great! Now those Bafu-esque gay rumors are gonna sprout up again :)
Eh-hem. I believe it was me that started that! (ducking from flames)
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 18:08:25 -0500
From: bforst@busprod.com (Bruce Forst)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT curiosities
Message-ID: <19970626230823958.AAA116@bforst.busprod.com>
>> go here: -enjoy!
>> http://www.busprod.com/bforst/profound/majesty.htm
>Oh man, this photo was really funny for me. The two Johns are holding up
>their guitars and Mike is holding his sticks, Kevin is balancing on one
>foot, and Chris is picking his butt...makes me wonder why DT got rid of
>him ;-)
Not to mention Portnoy sporting the sleeveless Queensryche shirt and the
overlarge mirror sunglasses; Petrucci's holding what appears to be a
"non-Ibanez" guitar. What is that thing anyway? And Uncannily Myung doesn't
look a bit different now than he did ten years ago.. wow! Ok, maybe a little
longer hair..
Ok, I've added what appears to have been the "Majesty" logo, kinda funky.
Also a slithering snake and a running cow. Not to be missed!
For those of you that skimmed over it the first time.. shame on you!
http://www.busprod.com/bforst/profound/majesty.htm
Bruce Forst
bforst@busprod.com
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:57:52 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: to: Rogerio Brito
Message-ID: <19970626.165145.9862.3.mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Sorry to post this but I'm in L..A. and I don't have Roger's email
address.
Roger,
Your package is in the mail. Air mail and registered as agreed on.
Take care,
Scott
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:57:52 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: QR show at Irvine Meadows
Message-ID: <19970626.165145.9862.4.mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
June 25, Irvine Meadows Ampitheater, Laguna Hills, CA.
Opening band: don't know because we were hanging out in the parking
lot (tailgating is a 15 year tradition at Irvine Meadows).
Lights were turned off at 9:00 and QR played about :110 total. They
opened
with the same song as the other shows and there was nothing unusual
from the earlier tour dates. Geoff's lost some in the old vocal chords,
he
couldn't hit the high stuff on Take Hold Of The Flame, but it didn't
really
matter. This was the first time I'd seen QR since 1985 When they played
with Accept (AC/DC jr.) and Keel (aka Ronnie Lee Keel and now Ron Keel)
and I had a great time. The band was just on, they wre *that* good.
Missing this tour when it comes to your town will *not* be permitted!
}:->
Scott
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 21:08:34 -0500
From: Glover <glover@dns.thewebcorp.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2670
Message-ID: <33B320A1.79E5@dns.thewebcorp.com>
Please take me off your mailing list immediately. Thank you.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 23:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ATTENTION IRC PEOPLEZ
Message-ID: <199706270301.XAA17225@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hi ...
This is for IRC people only. If you run a bot and you are not
Dr Mosh, the bot will be k-lined from the server which means that you
will probably be also k-lined. (this goes for the #ytsejam channel
only) DO NOT run any bots on the system. If you have a problem with
this, fuck off, this is policy.
Skadz
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 23:34:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Regarding Angra...
Message-ID: <970626233307_1209859353@emout13.mail.aol.com>
Hello friends -
Well, I must say that I have recently gotten into Angra in a BIG way! These
guys rule! I just got my grubby little mits on "Angels Cry" and "Holy Land",
and have been alternating regularly in my overworked and underappreciated CD
Player. I have seen advertised a couple of other releases by these guys,
including "Holy Live". Can I get any recommendations as to whether these are
worth the price of an import? Are they LP's? I thought these 2 were their
only LP's. Also, any track listings, especially for "Holy Live", would be
very helpful. I know that some time ago a thread like this came up on the
Jam, but I didn't pay that close attention to it since I had never heard
these guys at that time. Sorry for the resurrected thread, and thanks in
advance.
- Matt T.
Now Playing: Angra "Make Believe" WooHoo!!!
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 23:38:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: MTeiper@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Another Killer Concept Album: The Crimson Idol
Message-ID: <970626233755_-858670179@emout14.mail.aol.com>
Hey!
A while ago, there was mention on the Jam of people's favorite concept
albums. I can't be 100% sure, but I don't recall anyone mentioning WASP's
"The Crimson Idol". This album is just amazing! (I found my tape in the car
yesterday, and have been rocking to it behind the wheel ever since!) It
sounds like a metalized version of something that Pete Townsend would come up
with like "Tommy" or "Quadrophenia". TCI has a lot of the same symphonic and
dramatic qualities those 2 Who masterpieces have. Anywayz, if anyone is
looking for a GREAT concept album, give WASP a try. I think you'll dig it!
Bye...
- Matt T.
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 23:42:52 -0400
From: Tim Caudill <symmetry@gate.usaor.net>
To: "'DT Nuts'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: To the bloke who wanted advice...
Message-ID: <01BC828B.0E6200A0@dyn03cs10.usaor.net>
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Hey Zajk,
Coincindentally, i just recently ordered the new Magellan and Enchant =
albums from CDNow. I ordered late on a Saturday night, and they were at =
my door when i got home from work on Tuesday! Can't beat that! I've =
ordered from CDNow and cdconnection and find them both to be class acts =
and reputable and honest organizations. I don't think you can go wrong =
with either. But CDNow just won my business with their incredible =
turn-around time. Until they prove to me otherwise, they are now my =
e-cd store.
And you also wrote:
>and finally are there any 'must have' wonderful albums anyone has to
>recommend ??? - I'm after great prog with EMOTION! - and i especially =
enjoy
>concept albums..... also 'symphonic' type stuff, and music that is very
>varied, mood evoking and dark ??
Hey, you just perfectly described Iced Earth's Dark Saga. Of course, =
i'm also very partial to anything from Symphony X and Vauxdvihl.
Sept. 23rd for the new DT!!!!!! The 24th is my birthday! HAPPY DT =
BIRTHDAY TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Later all,
Big G
s y m m e t r y@usaor.net
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"So would you tell me now are life and death a symmetry?" --- Savatage, =
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