YTSEJAM Digest 2316
Today's Topics:
1) Glenn Tipton (NDTC)
by "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
2) Sign of the times
by Jonathan Case <jcase@BERGERON.METR.uoknor.edu>
3) Re: Radio show, Shadow Gallery, mDTC
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
4) Re: The Metallica list
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
5) please help me..privately
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
6) Suggestions for DT CD's...
by jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
7) Re: Diablo on Battle.net
by Kain <kain@caribe.net>
8) Metallica, other things
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
9) Thoughts on CMC
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
10) Re: Until it sleeps rip-off...
by Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com>
11) Re: NDTC: QR B-Side
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
12) Re: Blind Guardian / Priest Trib
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
13) ProgRockBoy is ba-ack
by Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
14) California Guitar Trio
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
15) I stand corrected
by Jeff Forte <araby@ibm.net>
16) =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Queensr=FFche?=
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
17) Re: Triggers and Maturity! Hmmmm.
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com
18) NDTC: Guitarists help me!
by jescuder@uio.satnet.net
19) North Dakota ROCKS
by Matt Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
20) Drum Video
by Dennis Fernando <zayas@monroe.ny.frontiercomm.net>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:42:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "Greg R. Lee" <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Glenn Tipton (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199703042242.RAA16706@slash.toraix.can.ibm.com>
Hey - all of you old time Judas Priest fans might be interested in knowing
that Glenn Tipton has a new solo album out...this may be old news by now,
just passing it along...Sounds like he always did...usually uneventful until
the solo and not always that exciting then either...
Greg,
Toronto.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:00:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Jonathan Case <jcase@BERGERON.METR.uoknor.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sign of the times
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.970304165938.2026A-100000@bergeron>
Just turned on the KATT here in Oklahoma City, and they just started to
play "sign of the times", by Queensryche. It's fairly ordinary and a bit
more grungy than usual QR, but it's not too bad. I could get used to it.
Jon
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:18:48 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Radio show, Shadow Gallery, mDTC
Message-ID: <v02130500af424f78852d@[128.32.100.59]>
>So I went to the orientation meeting at the Colorado State University
>college radio station (KCSU 90.5 FM) for volunteer DJ's.
>It was pretty kewl. The manager said they need volunteer DJ's desperately,
>and that it would be great idea to make a proposal for a specialty
>progressive rock/metal show and that I have to make an hour-long tape
>of typical material and give it to him. Any strong opinions from
>experienced jammers about key, highly representative tracks from
>the best prog rock/metal bands to put on this tape?? (DT will definitely be
>featured).
You know, I was making a tape for a friend who I wanted to get into prog,
and I was contemplating asking the jam for suggestions, but I didn't. You
know why? This is going to get some insane number of replys! They are
going to be so varied, and so huge in number that you will never be able to
use them all. Plus so much of it is going to end up being stuff you don't
have and can't get. But I must say it took guts to ask.
It is going to be intersting to see what the responses are though...
-Shane
______________________________________________________________________________
I Shane Liebling I You can call me Kennedy, you may have I
I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I killed him, but you cannot kill me. I
I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I - Spock's Beard "The Light" I
I____________________________________I_______________________________________I
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:27:17 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The Metallica list
Message-ID: <v02130501af425073c043@[128.32.100.59]>
> Yes, folx, I'm sure there is at least one Metallica list. Why
>don't you Metallica folx use it? I'd reather read a story about D-Man
>plucking his nose hairs than another stupid defensive post about why Load
>is a great album, and how Metallica isn't a sell out band. I personally
>don't care about Metallica... that's why I'm not on the Metallica list.
>You follow me on this one? Can I clarify? Remember how this is a
>progressive mailing list? And how Metallica is not a progressive band?
As far as I can tell the entire idea of the Jam was to discuss prog music,
and any tangents thereof. If Metallica is one of those tangents, then we
should be allowed to discuss it. (Oh, and my $0.18 cents worth is that
Load is a great album)
-Shane
______________________________________________________________________________
I Shane Liebling I You can call me Kennedy, you may have I
I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I killed him, but you cannot kill me. I
I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I - Spock's Beard "The Light" I
I____________________________________I_______________________________________I
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:28:13 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: please help me..privately
Message-ID: <331CBE1D.7BF4@caribe.net>
Please help me privately on sugestions on what songs to put on a tape
for my guitar teacher,who has heard of dt but actually never heard them
play and wants to,loves steve morse,is about 26-30 years old.And kicks
ass on the axe.Please email me sugesstions on track lists for a 90 min
or a 120 min tape..remember it is for a music/guitar teacher
thanx in advance
--
Increasingly the mathematics will demand the courage
to face its implications-Ian Malcolm
mailto:calfaro@Caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 15:27:31 -0700
From: jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Shane Liebling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Suggestions for DT CD's...
Message-ID: <v02130502af425155f546@[128.32.100.59]>
Hey all,
could anyone find it in their heart to post some URL's of good
places that sell non-commercial DT CD's (bootlegs or whatever you want to
call them) for good prices?
-Shane
______________________________________________________________________________
I Shane Liebling I You can call me Kennedy, you may have I
I jusenkyo@uclink4.berkeley.edu I killed him, but you cannot kill me. I
I http://www.earthlink.net/~mariachi I - Spock's Beard "The Light" I
I____________________________________I_______________________________________I
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 20:21:36 -0500
From: Kain <kain@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Diablo on Battle.net
Message-ID: <331CCAA0.6917@caribe.net>
Sorry for cluttering the jam with this...Woot, I can never find you man!
I try to make the game ytsejam, and i can't 'cause it's already in
progress but i can't join it, even with the pass majesty. So anyway,
let's meet up sometime, what char are you? I'm a Level 28 mage with two
dots, see ya in b'net!
PS. Oh, I'm Necro on b'net :)
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:21:35 -0800
From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
To: I need a taco <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Metallica, other things
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970305032135.0067a494@pop.pipeline.com>
Hello again. I am glad to see someone else bought
Helstar's Nosferatu. I think it's ok, but it does
sound dated. Good r. guitar work, and cool lyrics,
etc., but it sorta reminds me of 80's Anthrax, like
Spreading the Disease-era, only serious.
Pat, I want to know what you think of the Yngwie
album. I always think that he and Dio should get together,
toss (off) out the egos, and make some serious kick-ass
material.
Metallica. Didn't Skadz say no more Load talk? (To the
tune of "the song that never ends" : This is the thread
that never dies...) Speaking of rip-offs, anyone see
how Metallica ripped off Hades' "Rape of Persephone" for the
main riff to "Enter Sandman?"
I actually listened to DT yesterday. First time in ages.
I noticed that the liner notes to ACOS say the "new"
album will be out in 96. Argh.
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:24:04 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@zoo.uvm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Thoughts on CMC
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970304184801.140094C-100000@gnu.uvm.edu>
On Tue, 4 Mar 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> > CMC is a GREAT label! Dokken is on there as well as a lot of the 80's
> > Glam bands. I hear Whitesnake is putting out a CD on the label.
I have a weird opinion of CMC. There's a band I like called Tyketto (I'll
be really impressed if anyone here has heard of them). A couple of years
ago they put out there second album called "Strength In Numbers." It was
their first release on CMC and it was actually the first release by CMC
that I bought. Well, the day it came out I of course went to the local
record store (notice the singluar use- this is Vermont) to pick it up,
only it wasn't there. I knew it had come out because I got a call from my
friend about it. I became pissed at the realization that if this one store
(Pure Pop) didn't have it, then odds were that I would not be able to get
it anywhere in the entire state. In fact, I had to wait until I went back
home to L.A. to get it at Tower. Here's my point: at the time, CMC's
distribution sucked and the records were only being bought by major record
chains (and reluctantly at that), thereby explaining my inability to get
the record in Vermont. Now, CMC is obviously an independent label, so at
first I thought that maybe the stores in Vermont don't buy independent
releases, but a quick browse of the CD shelves proved me wrong (not only
that, but I found that no CMC releases were being carried). So then I
asked myself, "Okay, Richie...there must be a reason that the stores
aren't buying CMC records." And this is what I came up with: as a quick
survery of "Rolling Stone" magazine and MTV will tell you, there is a
heavy stigma surrounding supposed "80s" bands or bands that play that
particular style. As such, the major labels are looking for any excuse to
dump these bands from their rosters (not because they aren't selling as
much as their new signings because they were, but because it become
amazingly uncool to have these bands) so as to attract new "talent." So
that leaves a lot of bands, who have spent years cultivating an
international fan base without a way to make records. Enter CMC. CMC was
created to fill that void by signing established 80s bands. Presently,
although CMC has joined with BMG since my Tyketto days, thus reducing to
some degree their distribution problems, there are still several problems
with the label. First, they don't sign any new acts, just established
ones. I'm not really sure why they do this, because a lot of bands could
benefit from it and the label could make a shitload of money doing it. In
any case, they don't, so the stigma surrounding 80s bands has engulfed CMC
as well, so that radio stations and stores hear that, say, Warrant is on
CMC so they deem them to be dead (I've heard people in the music industry
say that CMC should stand for Crappy Metal Cemetary). Secondly, their
promotion of the acts they do have signed leaves a lot to be desired. It
takes more than an add in Metal Edge to have a promotional campaign.
Again, I'm not sure why they do this. I suppose their logic says that the
people buying the new Dokken album are already die-hards and will plan
their week around the album's release regardless of promotion, but that
removes the band name from the public eye and seriously reduces the
potential for the band to rise in popularity (as opposed to maintaining
the current level). I can't tell you how many times people see the latest
Warrant albums that I have on CMC and say, "I didn't know they were still
around." This proves that their promotion is ineffective. The only thing
about CMC that I do like is that they apparently give their artists
complete artistic freedom and allows some of my favorite bands to continue
making records. CMC still is a pretty new label and hasn't really earned
the respect of say, Shrapnel, which also signs a specialized type of
music. But time will tell. The moral of the story: no, I don't think DT
should sign with CMC. It would not be a good career move. I would rather
have them sign with a subsidiary of a major label like Eastwest was to
Atlantic and then to Elektra, if the need arises. Worst case senario:
they sign with Metal Blade. I've heard rumors that Poison (my favorite
band) is considering signing to CMC. I hope it doesn't happen and they
find someone else.
Richie
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:34:37 -0500
From: Rocky Dean <iban@mindspring.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Until it sleeps rip-off...
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970305003437.006c4ea8@pop.mindspring.com>
>Actually a friend of mine claims it is a song called "push it". You know,
>the one that goes.. "aaah... push it, push it real good", and then the
>melody that follows is similar to the main riff in UIP. I can't remember
>the band's name... but I think most of you know which song I'm talking
>about! ;)
it was Salt and peppa, i member that song,.. heh yea the riff does sound
kinda like it =o]
iBan
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:09:05 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: NDTC: QR B-Side
Message-ID: <199703050120.RAA23214@odin.ax.com>
> It's actually "Last Time IN Paris". Apart from the "Ford Fairlane"
Heheh... Pardon the typo. Damn stubby fat fingers. :P Think I'll
break em off.
> soundtrack, it can be found on the "Another Rainy Night Without You"
> Mega Maxi CD along with "Suite Sister Mary (live)" and "Eyes Of A
> Stranger (live)". As for favourite Queensryche B-sides... Ever heard
Damn, me want! I've never seen it anywhere else but the FF
soundtrack. All those singles are likely more thatn difficult to get
though. Might as well get the FF soundtrack. :)
> "Real World" off the "Last Action Hero" soundtrack ? It was later
> released on one of the "Bridge" singles. Really great song.
Yah. I've got about 5 CDs with Real World on it. 2 boots, the
Bridge single, and the I AM I single, not the mention the LAH
sountrack.
AHHHHHH!!! Doorbell!!!
Wait this isn't chat, wht the hell? Nuff said.
BLEAT!
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:10:45 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Blind Guardian / Priest Trib
Message-ID: <199703050122.RAA23228@odin.ax.com>
> I was at Tower records the other day and they had all their Japanese CD's
> on sale so I decided to look through and I'm a glad I did. In there I saw
> a CD of Blind Guardian called "Imaginations From The Other Side" so I
> grabbed it. For you European jammers, BG cd's aren't available here so
> this was a special treat for me. God am I glad I bought this CD. The only
Hrm... I checked with my local distributor and he had 2 or 3 Blind
Guardian CDs on his domestic list. You might check again. He said
domestic distributors are slowly starting to pump old prog back into
the system. I also got Marillion's Misplaced Childhood and will
order Script for a Jester's Tear from him on domestic. Could this be
a sign of things to come? (Hopefully). The prices are still kinda
high for such old stuff, but is quite a bit cheaper than the imports.
:)
> I have a weird opinion of CMC. There's a band I like called Tyketto
> (I'll be really impressed if anyone here has heard of them). A
> couple of years ago they put out there second album called "Strength
> In Numbers." It was their first release on CMC and it was actually
Whaoh? I got that one. I swear the first time I heard Rescue me, I
though JP was playing guitar. After listening to it a little farther
it got all glammy, but I still like the album. :) Standing Alone
rocks. Wish I'd heard the original version. I was just lucky enuff
to find this in a used CD bin. There's an import of a newer one at
the local shoppe, but it's like $30 and I'm not sure if I wanna dish
out for it. That little descending diddle do diddle do diddle do
diddle do whaddle-addle-addle-addle rox. :) (Rescue Me) Anyway...
BLEAT YOU MISERABLE SHEEP!
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:21:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick Guadagnoli <nguadagn@acme.csusb.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: ProgRockBoy is ba-ack
Message-ID: <199703050121.RAA27057@acme.csusb.edu>
To the Jammer-type people out there--
Hey, I just found out about and signed the EastWest petition... I tried
to read it, but on lynx its EIGHT HUNDRED, FORTY-FOUR pages long!!!! I
think a copy should be sent to Eastwest automatically each time a new sig
is added. That might get their attention. Hee hee...
Well, Prog iz back from his stay at the hospital... And if anyone REALLY
wants the gory details of why I have stitches on my wrists, email me
privately. I don't want sympathy, but I don't want to lie (heh heh... I
said Lie) to yall and say that I haven't been checking my email. I only
have sixty more jamz to read to catch up... :::diving in:::
--ProgRockBoy.
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Date: 04 Mar 97 17:20:55 -0800
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: California Guitar Trio
Message-ID: <199703050126.RAA25353@mailsun3-fddi.us.oracle.com>
Does anyone know anything about the California Guitar Trio? How good are
these guys? types of music, do they play with drummer/bass or just guitars,
musical styles, where to find their discs..
thanks,
-Neil.
"Ah, the Miracle Mile... Where value wears a neon sombrero and there's not a
single church or library to offend the eye."
--->Homer J. Simpson<---
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 20:43:21 -0500
From: Jeff Forte <araby@ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I stand corrected
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970304204321.006b4ee4@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
>>The new album II: A thought occoured to me last night on IRC. DT is
>>having so much trouble getting into the studio. Awake sold OK...not as
>>good as I&W.....but good none-the-less. Concidering this..we all better
>>hope that the new album does well...or these problems are going to seem
>>like childs play. Hopefully someone can shoot me down on this one.
>don't mind if I do!
-Homer J. Simpson
>Actually, Awake sold more total copies than I&W, just as i'm sure that TBA
>will sell more than Awake did.
Ok...if this is true I stand corrected. If someone has the stats on hoew
much each of the ablums sold I would be interested to see them.
BTW....could someond forward me a copy of Jam #2313....I seem to have not
gotten it. thanks
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Chambers araby@ibm.net
"Warm bodies, I sense are not machines that can only make money.
Past, perfect, tense, words for a feeling and all I've discovered.
I'll be along son, with medicine supposed to, designed to make you
high. I'll be along son, with words for a feeling and all I've
discovered." -- +Live+
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:54:56 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Queensr=FFche?=
Message-ID: <199703050206.SAA23703@odin.ax.com>
Whatever...
Just 30 sceconds and I'm already hooked. I don't see anything wrong
with this clip, but I've yet to hear the whole song, anyway. Still,
I it is a different sound from Queensryche. Sorta um, weird. I
catch recollections of maybe Kansas or Led Zeppelin listening to it.
Cant' wait now. :)
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 20:59:59 -0600 (CST)
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Triggers and Maturity! Hmmmm.
Message-ID: <1997342145836334@ix.netcom.com>
>> Mike P. if your reading this I&W is the best DT effort to date drum
>> wise IMO. Please be flexible on the trigger issue.
On 02/03/97 09:01:30 you wrote:
>Got to disagree. "Awake" is, according to my bad and biased taste,
>one of the best sounding album ever, overall. Not to mention that I
>just adore the way the drums sound. They can be vague, they can be
>big, they can guide you or provoke you... It's a step towards
>maturity.
It's always your freedom to disagree. Maturity has nothing to do with it
though. I guess it's "not the best thing" to amplify or manipulate sound from
instuments of Rock now? Why should the drum evolution stop at with just a
microphone on the drum. If guitarists and keyboardists meddle with their sound
why not drums? A few on the list have expressed their dissaproval of the drum trigger
issue, I believe most of these people are jumping on the bandwagon. Well Mike P.
said it so it must be so. Hmmmmm. Maturity - I would bet I've played drums
longer than you have been on this earth.
Don't take this as an attack because it's not - just a "mature" view from a drummer who has
explored both sides of this issue.
May God Bless and shine His light upon you,
Michael C.
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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 22:00:58 +0000
From: jescuder@uio.satnet.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC: Guitarists help me!
Message-ID: <m0w24yy-000MHsC@uio.satnet.net>
I own two guitars: A Jackson Randy Rhoads pro model, custom black
finish (Dave Mustaine, Kirk...) 1995
An Ibanez JS100 1997 wich sounds pretty cool, and which I like a lot more
than the Jackson.
There's a guy in here who wants to exchange my Jackson guitar w/ hard
case for the next stuff:
- a Tascam 6-channel portastudio, the old model
- two PortaMonitors 100W each
- A programmable drum machine (Boss Dr. Rythm)
Do you think it's OK?
As I live in South America I don't know very much about prices
I bought that guitar for 1200 dollars, so should I ask more money?
Mail me privately please ASAP to
jescuder@uio.satnet.net
Thanx!
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 21:04:39 -0600
From: Matt Robbins <robbins@aero.und.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: North Dakota ROCKS
Message-ID: <331CE2C7.5F1D@aero.und.edu>
> >To the North Dakota Jammer-
> >I simpathize with you cause I know what it is like to have a simple
> >little dream like seeing DT in concert shattered because we live in the
> >boonies.
>
> To the ND Jammer: do yourself a favor and GET THE HELL OUT OF THAT
> SHITHOLE OF A STATE! I spent three LOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGG years of
> my life there and everything about it sucked! You know it's bad when
> a finalist for Miss Teen USA says the first thing she's going to do
> when she turns 18 is MOVE out of ND to Chicago. There's a good ad
> for ND!
Well, that's a little uncalled for. ND is a beautiful state and I happen
to like it here. I've lived in several places in the USA and each has
its good and bad points. Yeah, ND is cold and I have to work a little
harded to find my favorite CD's, but at least I breathe clean air, NEVER
fight rush hour traffic, pay very low living expenses and so on. Maybe
you just don't apperciate the more subtle pleasures of life or maybe you
couldn't handle the weather (not to say you're a WIMP or anything). As
the for Miss Teen USA's comments: Oh well, I guess we should ALL
treasure the advice of some bleach-blond teenie-bopper
bimbo-beauty-queen. I'm sure her 18 years of cheerleading and and giving
the quarterback head under the bleachers have made her a fountain of
wisdom! I think you should reevaluate your choice or role models.
Yeah, yeah, this doesn't belong on the jam. Oh well. The jam deserves to
hear both sides of the arguement. Besides, a good argument keeps the jam
from getting too boring!! Flame away, I've got my Nomex suit on.
~Matt (One of at least two North Dakota jammers)
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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 22:06:42 -0500
From: Dennis Fernando <zayas@monroe.ny.frontiercomm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Drum Video
Message-ID: <331CE342.6921@monroe.ny.frontiercomm.net>
Has anyone here seen the new Mike Portnoy intructional video? If so,
is it any good?
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