YTSEJAM Digest 2342
Today's Topics:
1) Images And Words Review
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
2) Songs that have feeeling
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
3) Metropolis (2/6)
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
4) Queensryche, Vauxdvihl
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
5) Songs that MOVE me
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
6) Fates and Kiss (NDTC)
by Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com>
7) Re: Queensryche, Vauxdvihl
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
8) Tunnel Records
by Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com>
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10) Lamers are flooding the jam!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
11) Re: bad rumors
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 18:16 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Images And Words Review
Message-ID: <m0w5Jjt-0006VHC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
I just wanted to pass along an old review of Images And Words I have from
Circus magazine. I've had it for a while but I just think it goes to show
how narrow-minded music critics were even when grunge wasn't around. Here goes:
Dream Theater- Images And Words (ATCO) 3 stars out of 5
Blending keyboards and heavy guitars, Dream Theater combines the
adventurousness of Seventie's progressive rock with the bone-crunching slam
of heavy metal, creating a unique Yes-meets-Metallica hybrid. A cool idea,
but Dream Theater leaves the task somewhat unfulfilled. You can't help but
marvel at the bands dexterity and many of the instrumental excursions on
this album (the New York-based bands second) do provide some enjoyable
moments. But like a lot of progressive bands, Dream Theater's music seems to
come more from the head rather than the gut, making this an interesting
though unthrilling album.
My comments: Unthrilling? What the hell is this guy talking about.
Obviously, he barely listened to the album, if he did at all. The music
comes from the head? This guy did not listen to Metropolis or Learning To
Live apparently. If he did, he'd know the music comes directly from their
soul and not from their head. I think this whole review this guy did really
SUCKS.
Don Compton
mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more
to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:07:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Songs that have feeeling
Message-ID: <199703140007.TAA27110@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Here are my favorite rip out your heart.
Kansas: Dust in the wind
Queensryche: Silent Lucidity (sp?)
Dream Theater: Space Divest
Peter Gabriel: I can't think of the name of the song
UB 40: That song on the Sliver soundtrack (it has a "girlfriend" remembrance."
there are more that I will add later. later, J
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:13:43 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metropolis (2/6)
Message-ID: <199703140013.QAA25080@f6.hotmail.com>
Sorry it took so long for me to get this posted, but at long last, here's
chapter 2!
If anyone has strong objections to me posting this to the list, let me know.
Enjoy!
Metropolis
Part 2
"There's no more freedom.
The both of you will be confined to this mind.
I was told there's a miracle for each day that I try.
I was told there's a new love that's born for each one that has died.
I was told there'll be no one to call on when I feel alone and afraid.
I was told, 'If you dream of the next world, you'll find yourself swimming in a
lake of fire.'"
When Paul came to, he had a hard time seeing around him. Everything looked
black. Everywhere he looked was black.
"I must be dead. I must be in hell," he thought to himself.
Then, he turned around, and he saw a small figure staring at him.
"Good! You're awake!" the little midget said to him.
Paul was taken aback by this little man. "Who are you? What am I doing here?
Are you the one that dragged me off the street?"
"Oh, so many questions, so little time! But we have all the time in the world!
We can wait for that!"
"Am I dead?"
"Well, yes, and no."
Paul was exasperated. "What does that mean?"
"Well, you are dead, but not like most people are dead. Most people, when they
die, go to either heaven or hell, depending on how they lived their life.
However, with this war, we needed someone who could help us resolve it. We
chose you."
Paul, furious, screamed, "You had me killed? I had a life, dammit! You took
that away from me!"
In the distance, another voice said, "We must apologize, we were rather
desperate. But then again, our little friend has a habit of being reckless."
The small man said, "Well, it isn't exactly my fault, Sleeper! I did ask you
to wake up to help, but you wouldn't do it!"
Paul looked over to see an old man, but not too old, lying on a sort of loft.
"You know that I will only awaken when the chosen one has arrived. And thanks
to you, he has. You should have been more careful."
The dwarf just humphed.
Paul, totally exasperated, said, "So, who are you?"
The dwarf smiled. "I am he that brings all joy to mankind. I am the paragon
of happiness." He gave the last phrase a magical flavor. "I am the source of
miracles."
Sleeper, unimpressed, said, "Oh, be quiet. You haven't exactly impressed
everyone."
"Oh, but wait until our friend finds out that he has a purpose!"
Paul, still irked, turned to Sleeper and said, "And you?"
"I have slept for centuries awaiting the time when I will be needed again. I
am the keeper of wisdom, and it will be my duty to aid you in your task."
Paul, even more agitated, said, "Wait a minute, what task?"
"We have selected you to become one of us in our quest to bring goodness back
to the city. You are now the spirit of Metropolis, the guardian of the city
and all its majesty. You must bring it back to its former glory."
"What!? Me!? What if I don't want to do this?"
"Then, you will go to the land of darkness and misery, where all wicked souls
go."
"Wait a minute, I am not wicked!"
"You would be, if you were to refuse a request to help when you are needed."
At this point, Paul resigned himself. "All right, what do I have to do?"
"There are three main forces of life that everyone goes through. Three
'dances,' if you will. These three are different for each person, and affect
how the course of their life progresses. The first of those for you is Death,
which you have already experienced."
"Okay, so what are the other two?"
"You will discover those in time, as you learn more about how you will solve
the problem with which you have been presented. This knowledge will aid you in
your quest."
"So, what do I do now?"
"Just wait and observe. You will know when the time is right."
---Dan was with Jennifer going through Paul's stuff, remembering their brother and partner who had just been slain. It was a hard time for both of them.
Jennifer, deciding to break the macabre silence, said, "Hey, you want to go out for coffee?"
"No, that's okay."
"You sure? It would do you some good to get out of the house."
"No, I'm all right. But if you want to go on ahead, Jen, I'l meet you there."
"Okay."
Jen went out to her car and left. But she did not go to the coffee house. She went to a back alley near some tall buildings on the north side of town. This back alley was one that very few people knew about, and no one paid attention to. Which is what made it perfect.
She turned the corner behind the abandoned apartment building and drove down into the below-ground garage. The rest of the building was falling apart, but this was in mint condition. Hardly anyone used this part of the building since it was so hard to get cars. And the restructuring of the city 20 years ago made it so the garage entrance was away from the street instead of facing it, which made it even more perfect.
She parked her car among all the other cars and motorcycles and went out. She walked amongst the fires and the people huddled next to them and found the tightly guarded tent. Surprisingly, the largely built guards let this small woman through.ed inside and found a single man lying on a large bed with several attendants and several attractive women lying beside him.
Upon seeing her, he said, "So, how did it go?"
Somberly, Jennifer replied, "My brother's dead."
"I'm sorry."
"You said you weren't going to hurt anybody this time."
"Hey, the cops were coming down on us. They started it."
"My brother was a cop."
This did not make him very happy. "You were related to a cop? And you didn't tell me?"
Oh, shit. Now she had to come up with an answer. "I was afraid. I was afraid that if the cops found me out they'd come for me. I was afraid that if you found out about Paul, you'd come for him. I'm sorry, I didn't know what else to do."
"This omission of information is a security risk to us all. You should have told us."
"I'm sorry."
"Did he ever see you some up here? Did he ever suspect that you were part of us?"
"No. I made sure that I disguised my trips as something else. Usually I just told him that I was going out for a drive. He knew I liked to drive."
"Good. Anything else important that you have to tell us?"
"No."
"Good. You may go."
Jennifer turned to leave, but she was interrupted just as she was about to go.
"Are there any other cops that know you?"
Now she really had a tough decision. Did she betray her true love, or did she risk her own life to protect him? In a split second decision, she said, "Yes, my fiancé was Paul's partner."
End Part 2
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:20:52 -0500 From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Queensryche, Vauxdvihl Message-ID: <199703140022.QAA05859@odin.ax.com>
>Well, heard Sign of the Times on WAAF today. And I am pretty >darn impressed.
I heard it also, Queensryche can now be classified under grunge/alternative, The slower acoustic part is not bad, the rest is nothing but shitty grunge. Fuck*n chickens.
For those who are in Progressive rock/metal bands, please don't give up, stay true to yourselves, and play the music you love. The shit on the radio will pass, prog will soon dominate.
Also, for those who can't wait for the new Fates, try Vauxdvihl's "to dimension logic". It's an excellent album, reminds me of "perfect symmetry". You will not be dissapointed.
Elvis Batur cyclone@securenet.net elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:38:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Songs that MOVE me Message-ID: <199703140038.QAA02544@f10.hotmail.com>
Since this seems to be the topic of discussion, I'll throw down a list of songs that move me, and I'll try not to make the list so long that it crashes my computer when I try to mail it.
My All time favorite song is:
Duran Duran-Save A Prayer
I absolutely fell in love with this song the first time I heard it-Only one of two songs I can say that about. It has absolute pure love in its harmony, in its lyrics, and in Simon's voice. It is the absolute best song of all time.
Other songs, listed by band
DT:Pull Me Under, Surrounded, Metropolis, Wait For Sleep, Lie, Lifting Shadows, Space-Dye Vest
QR-Roads to Madness, Take Hold, Walk In the Shadows, I Will Remember, Eyes of a Stranger, Best I Can, Silent Lucidity
Depeche Mode-A Question of Lust, Enjoy the Silence, Walking In My Shoes, Rush, One Caress
FW-Monument, 11th Hour
Genesis-Dancing With the Moonlit Knight, Snowbound Turn It On Again, Man on the Corner Mama, Home By the Sea, Domino, No Son of Mine
East 17-Thunder(Anyone know where I can get a copy of this song in the US?)
Madonna-Live to Tell, Like A Prayer, You'll See
Rush-Nobody's Hero, Animate
U2-One, I Will Follow, Stay(Faraway, So Close)
GNR-November Rain, Don't Cry, Estranged
Queen-Who Wants to Live Forever
Seal-Crazy
I think this is enough for now!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:55:19 -0800 From: Kevin Madden <kwmadden@pipeline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fates and Kiss (NDTC) Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970314035519.0068dcec@pop.pipeline.com>
Opinionated comments about the following:
> One last snap: WHY do so many prog-metal groups compare themselves >to Rush? I like Fate's Warning, but I wouldn't compare ANY success they've >had to Rush's on a critical, commercial or musical level.
Neither would I. Especially the musical part. Fates is FAR superior to Rush. Snap that.
> >Is there anyone who can tell me where I can locate a copy or two of "KISS >Meets Phantom Of The Park?" Thanx much. >Much love, > Mari
This is because April Fool's day is coming up, and this is a gag gift, right? Please tell me you don't consider this peice of camp/crap to be of any value?!?
Argh!
GO WINGS!
Kevin
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Queensryche, Vauxdvihl Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970313200038.11065D-100000@unix17.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Elv wrote:
> >Well, heard Sign of the Times on WAAF today. And I am pretty > >darn impressed. > > I heard it also, Queensryche can now be classified under > grunge/alternative, > The slower acoustic part is not bad, the rest is nothing but shitty > grunge. > Fuck*n chickens. > > For those who are in Progressive rock/metal bands, please don't give up, > stay true to yourselves, and play the music you love. > The shit on the radio will pass, prog will soon dominate. > > Also, for those who can't wait for the new Fates, try Vauxdvihl's "to > dimension logic". > It's an excellent album, reminds me of "perfect symmetry". You will not be > dissapointed.
But what about those of us who can't wait for the new Fates and already *have* to dimension logic? :)
Is TDL still available, though? I thought they broke with their label (not that that would necessarily mean TDL is out of print). Their more recent demos are pretty awesome, too, but their web page is gone so I don't know where to tell people to go to get those. Anyone know if they have a page somewhere else now? Anyone know anything at all about what's going on with Vauxdvihl these days?
If you can get To Dimension Logic, or anything else of theirs, go for it. Immediately.
-maximilian
Anton Max MadMax+@cmu.edu http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:31:22 -0300 From: Jose Lucas Perroni Kalil <gzr@geocities.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tunnel Records Message-ID: <3328AA6A.32A5@geocities.com>
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Some issues ago I read some people talking about "Tunnel Records", which sells bootlegs. I was trying to find this on-line store, but the lonely one "TR" that I found was a techno label:) Could someone give me "Tunnel Records"'s address?
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:36:47 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lamers are flooding the jam! Message-ID: <199703140148.RAA07056@odin.ax.com>
> in response to the " touching songs " topic, things were fine and dandy > until the mention of the so-called poet-boy vedder. I'd just like to remind > people that this is the DREAM THEATER FAN-LINE, consisting of hopefully > intelligent, musically educated persons and not the SEATTLE-SHIT FAN-LINE, > which has blinded, deluded and polluted America's youth into thinking that > grunge and most there-after had any real or comparable value..... > just remember this is still music BUSINESS run by BUSINESS PEOPLE so > whatever may( in their feeble minds ) sell, will most gladly be given > the opportunity to.
OK. I quit listening to Pearl Jam now. I didn't realize that my intellectual level was so far below yours. I must quit my listening to my belligerant, thoughtless music, and listen to the enlightening aural pleasures of which you speak.
NOT!
One thing you gotta realize chum is that people who listen to Dream Theater don't have to be completely secluded to one musical boundary. Hell, I listen to everything from Pantera to Dream Theater to Yanni to Pink Floyd to Pearl Jam to Les Miserables to Eric Johnson to Bon Jovi to (almost fearful to admit) Garth Brooks to Megadeth. Heheh, I'm can barely stand country, but I like Ropin' the Wind OK. :) Hell, you can even throw Def Leppard and Bad Religion in there as well... Why don't you do yourself a favor and broaden your horizons a bit. Don't rate music by how popular it is, rate it by how well you like it. I mean, it's gotta be popular for some other reason, ya know?
KorgX3 ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.webspawner.com/users/KorgX3 Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by KorgX3 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :)
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 18:51:54 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: bad rumors Message-ID: <199703140203.SAA07156@odin.ax.com>
> either way, its not true.. but does anyone remember saying that after > metallica released load and their next album they would break up? was this > ever true and if it was is it still true? just curious..
And that kurt Cobain was gonn kcik his heroin addiction after En Utero? Oh, wait... I guess he kinda did in a way.. (DOH!)
And that Suicidal Tendencies was gonna commit a mass suicide after releasing their 3rd album? (All I wanted was a Pepsi... and you wouldn't give it to me...)
> One song that gave me screaming nightmares (I have no idea why) is > "River Blindness" by the J. Geils Band (_Freeze-Frame_). If anyone > else has had this experience, please email me. It was so terrifying > at the time (I was 16?) I prayed that God please never ever let me > hear it again. I have of course since grown up a bit and have no > trouble with it... listened to it last night trying to determine > what crossed circuits tripped off the night terrors
Bad trips to the dentist's office does this to me. I still kinduv cringe from songs like Abracadabra and Now You See It (Now You Don't) They use to pipe those over the headphones and I underwent sever trauma whenever I heard these songs for years. I love Ozzy, but always skip that song.....
Yup... Damn straight. KorgX3 ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.webspawner.com/users/KorgX3 Disclaimer: All entries posted in this text are copyrighted by KorgX3 and are subject to applicable laws. Unauthorized reproduction of any entry contained within without written consent of the owner is strictly forbidden. "Rokz nadz, kikz butz, and hott chikz" are trademarks owned by KorgX3. :)
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