YTSEJAM Digest 2343
Today's Topics:
1) Re: RA files.
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
2) Touching lyrics / songs
by vanzin@dks.com.br
3) Re: Ex-Helmet
by Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
4) Touching songs
by Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
5) Chaos Theory
by "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2342
by "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
7) Tunnel Records
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
8) Chaos Theory. . . and Chaos Theory! (seeing double0
by "Eugene E. Szucs" <szucseue@flyernet.udayton.edu>
9) Tunnel Records
by Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
10) move me songs
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
11) I'm a bit disappointed.. I think.
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2326 and other stuf
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
13) Chaos Theory Responses
by Jeff DiBartolomeo <jdibart@li.net>
14) Re: Vauxdvihl
by "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
15) Fwd: Re: re: thought industry/fw
by WildKoba@aol.com
16) new albums, songs that do funky shit to me, and et al.
by WildKoba@aol.com
17) tori a fyi / ndtc
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
18) Gratuitous MP reference;Bay Area radio
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:09:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: RA files.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.970313210843.28430C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> .ra files, but that didn't work like it does for .wav files and .au files.
> It just brings a bunch of crap up on the screen. Anybody know the proper
> way of doing it? Lemme know, please!
<A HREF="filename.ra">filname</A>
like that.
if you wanna see it, go to the offical lemur voice homepage:
http://www.mindspring.com/~syrinx/lemur/lemur-main.htm
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:15:22 -0300
From: vanzin@dks.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Touching lyrics / songs
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.17.3.13.-9.15.22.2579404677.638361@dks.com.br>
Hi there!
Here are my faves...
Rush: Nobody's Hero
Dream Theater: Voices, Scarred, Space-Dye Vest
Savatage: Believe
Metallica: Welcome Home (Sanitarium), Fade to Black
Queensryche: Anybody Listening?, Someone Else
Iron Maiden: Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Hallowed Be Thy Name
Joe Satriani: Baroque, Speed of Light, Tears in the Rain
Fates Warning: Chasing Time, Nothing Left to Say
Vinnie Moore: April Sky, The Tempest
Wow, 'nuff songs! :) Those ones really touch me, in many
different ways, although they're not necessarily my big favorites.
About D-Man saying "no top whatever lists": I'm not rating them
in any form, just giving names, so that does not fit as "top whatever
list", right? ;)
[]'s
Marcelo Vanzin
Sใo Paulo - Brasil
vanzin@dks.com.br vanzin@dreamt.org
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6308/
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:15:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Syrinx <syrinx@dreamt.org>
To: Brian Jones <bjones@wheatonma.edu>
Subject: Re: Ex-Helmet
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.970313211337.152A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> >Any Helmet fans out there in cyberland? I just heard the track 'High
> >Visibility'
> >from the forthcoming album 'Aftertaste' on a sampler, and this thing has
> >more
> >grooves than and old vinyl LP. If the rest of the album is like this,
> >then
> >I've
> >already got one of my contenders for the album of the year contest.
>
> Helmet is cool, but has anyone heard of Handsome? The band has ex-members
> of Helmet and Quicksand. I saw them when they opened for Silverchair, and
> went out the next day and got the album. It rocks. Fave tracks: #'s 1, 5,
> 8, 10, 12. But they're all good. Check them out.
they're increadible. simply increadible. the album is nonstop,
in your face, new york rock. it's the way helmet _should_ be (and i love
helmet, don't get me wrong). i missed them in their philly stop (it was
either them or finneus gauge), so i'll see then again when they come down.
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:40:22 -0700 (MST)
From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
To: ytsejam list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Touching songs
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95q.970313193638.46842A-100000@f1n7.U.Arizona.EDU>
DT- Eve, Another Day (esp. the Acoustic Dreams version), Learning to Live,
ACOS, The Silent Man.
Live - Everything off of the Mental Jewelry album.
GC - No Problems
Pearl Jam - Black
Fernando Ma
Materials science & engineering
University of Arizona
http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
"I could sail by on the Winds of Silence, and maybe they won't
notice. But this time I think it'd be better if I swim."
- The Silent Man
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:53:11 -0500
From: "Adam Cook" <acook@tiac.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Chaos Theory
Message-ID: <199703140254.VAA26749@zork.tiac.net>
Yo,
Uh, I don't get it. I went to this page and got most of the samples of
Chaos Theory, but all I hear are what sounds like DT clone material. The
guy offering the samples seems more interested in telling us what time
signature each part is in rather than what each song means to them or such.
No offense to anybody, but I don't hear anything great coming out of this
besides technicality.
adam
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:02:22 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jeremy C. Hallum" <jhallum@bu-ast.bu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2342
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970313215334.11792B-100000@bu-ast.bu.edu>
On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
> To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: Queensryche, Vauxdvihl
>
> >Well, heard Sign of the Times on WAAF today. And I am pretty
> >darn impressed.
>
> I heard it also, Queensryche can now be classified under
> grunge/alternative,
> The slower acoustic part is not bad, the rest is nothing but shitty
> grunge.
> Fuck*n chickens.
>
Here's where we disagree...
And don't you wonder if they chose the style of the song to match
the lyrics? The song came off as being electric/angry in the verses, where
they talk about what ails us in this world, and in the chorus, the
acoustic seems to come off to me as being regretful of the things that
got us where we are today. Am I the only one this seems progressive
to? Anyway, we'll see what the album is like...
-jeremy
PS hearing Aerosmiths new album in a special on WBCN, interesting album....
+=====================================================================+
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# Boston, MA 02134 # To find, and not to yield. #
# Astronomy #"Understanding is a three-edged sword-- #
# <*> <*> <*> # your side, their side, and the truth" #
# Jeremy Hallum # No surrender, No retreat. #
# jhallum@bu.edu # http://bu-ast.bu.edu/~jhallum/ #
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 22:06 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tunnel Records
Message-ID: <m0w5NKR-000B5gC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Although, I don't really get why you would want to wait 6 months to a year
for a bootleg CD, here is the address for Tunnel Records:
http://www.csmonline.com/tunnel
They definitely aren't a bad place- but your best bet would be ordering
something that is IN stock otherwise you'll be waiting about as long as its
taking Dream Theater to release a new album.
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more
to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:04:33 +0000
From: "Eugene E. Szucs" <szucseue@flyernet.udayton.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chaos Theory. . . and Chaos Theory! (seeing double0
Message-ID: <9703140359.AA14533@enterprise.udayton.edu>
When posts of this prog band came up on the Jam, I was a bit
suprised: For those of you that don't know the University of Dayton
(most of you, I'd guess), there is a band here that's been playing
for a few months called Chaos Theory. They're mainly a cover band,
although I know that they like DT (I've copied some boots for them).
Well, I've since discovered that the two CT's are indeed two seperate
bands, and I would've wrote in sooner but I just had to ask one of
the guitar players if they knew that there was another CT. Today I
ran into one of them in our Music/Theater bukiding where I practice
guitar and I brought the issue up to him. He laughed and told me
that just last night the OTHER CT's lawyer had called them up and
"requested" that they drop the name. So, tonight's gig is their last
one as CT; oh well. It's good for a laugh, anyway. Take care!
You can now visit me and my friends at the
Orpheus website here at
http://www.udayton.edu/~orpheus/
You can find my bio in the biography section as well
as review the fruit of past issues. Let me know
what you think!
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:14:46 -0500
From: Robert Rivers <gehrig4@seacoast.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tunnel Records
Message-ID: <3328ECD6.3C3E@seacoast.com>
Stay away from Tunnel Records , I ordered a Rush boot in Aug. and have
waited until this week for a reply to my numerous e-mails, voice mail
and two letters via snail mail. Thay claim to be sending a refund. after
7 months I'll believe it when I see it. There's plenty of legit dealers
on the internet if you dig a little . I'd stay away from these clowns.
Later
Robert
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:28:12 -0500
From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: move me songs
Message-ID: <v01530501af4e94da6e62@[207.79.6.168]>
Songs that move me:
Lets start with DT... Scarred...Another Day....Killing Hand...
Shadow Gallery: All on first album. (don't have second one yet.)
Rush: Emotion Detector....Middletown
Dreams....Xanadu...Second Nature....
Helloween: March of Time...How many Tears...
Rainbow: Stargazer...Lady of the Lake....Temple & the King
Deep Purple: Wasted Sunsets....
Gillan: Time & Again....If you Believe Me....
Savatage: Summers Rain....If I Go....St.
Patricks.....Somewhere/Believe....
AWBH: All songs except Teakbois
Steve Howe: Hint Hint...Running the Human Race...
Yes: Turn of the Century.....
Jon & Vangelis: Find my way home...
Triumph: Hard Road....World of Fantasy...
Peter Kater: Fur Seals....Walking the
Path....Anthem....Transformation (2nd 1/2)...
Davol: Rescuer.... (got this on a label sampler disc)
Fowler & Branca: No Mas... (same sampler)
Franz Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody #5....
Oh...so many more....
Check out our Milford Miami Twp site now online at http://www.45150.com
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:55:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'm a bit disappointed.. I think.
Message-ID: <199703140655.BAA15815@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Last night, I purchased Marillion's "afraid of sunlight" Did I get the right
Marillion? If I did or didn't does anyone wanna buy it? $15.00 shipping
included. Any takers? E mail me private to make arrangements. Later, J
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:20:52 -0600 (CST)
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2326 and other stuf
Message-ID: <199703140720.BAA13439@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
Hi Ytsejam Man.!
****** Thank you Mr.curth@execpc.com for answering my question about
the Milan boot odd tracks.
Also........ Do any of you's remember comments on the Jam some months
ago about the comparison of Met Pt 1 and PMU having the same drum
patterns? In the beginning of PMU and shortly after the intro. in Met.
"(I was told
there's a miracle for each...." - you know that part. Well I don't
remember anyone ever challenging this thought.
So I have decided to. If this has already been "put to bed" then
please inform me but I do not hear MP the same patterns in these two
tracks. I don't read music but "I'm a real good listener".
To mister Anonymous:
I can appreciate why you like Peart more than Portnoy. My thoughts:
are Peart "smothers" (to put it mildly) Portnoy in a live setting i.e.
concert but, M.P. has that STYLISTIC ODASSITY that Peart went soft on.
M.P. te
aches me a fresh approach to drumming whereas Peart is only writing
minor variations from his previous release. The percussion is my major
attraction to DT.
God Bless,
Michael C.
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:36:32 -0500
From: Jeff DiBartolomeo <jdibart@li.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chaos Theory Responses
Message-ID: <v03007812af4e685f36e5@[199.173.75.116]>
Hey all!
I'd like to personally thank everyone for their kind words about our band,=
Chaos Theory. We're really excited about what's happening with the band=
right now, and it's especially reassuring to get positive feedback from our=
friends on the Jam.
A lot of people have asked "how do I get a disc?" Well, we're negotiating a=
record deal now. If you haven't done so yet, join our mailing list (at the=
"official" site, below) and we'll send news about our album release when/if=
we sign a deal and have a better idea of what's happening.
If you haven't done so yet, please check out our "official" website at:
http://www.li.net/~jdibart/chaos-theory/
Correction... Make that website(S). You can also check out Yanos' cool=
"unofficial" CT site at:
http://www.netwizards.net/~yanos/
Thanks again, folks. You've all been fucking amazing.
-Jeff (BTW, I'm the singer)
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
Jeff DiBartolomeo
"Sometimes rewards can be few when you know the potential of you.
Steets left untraveled, decisions not made.
Just regretful tales when the memories fade."
- Chaos Theory, 1997
http://www.li.net/~jdibart/chaos-theory/
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:53:26 -0500
From: "Elv" <cyclone@securenet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Vauxdvihl
Message-ID: <199703140755.XAA09889@odin.ax.com>
>Is TDL still available, though? I thought they broke with their label (not
>that that would necessarily mean TDL is out of print). Their more recent
>demos are pretty awesome, too, but their web page is gone so I don't know
>where to tell people to go to get those. Anyone know if they have a page
>somewhere else now? Anyone know anything at all about what's going on with
>Vauxdvihl these days?
It's still available at Dominion Records for $16.
Their home page will be back soon (I don't know exactly when).
You can check my web page in a few days, I will have a Vauxdvihl section.
Also, a new album has been recorded, the release date is unknown.
Elvis Batur
cyclone@securenet.net
elv@geocities.com
Music In Progress
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/4257
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:03:55 -0500 (EST)
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: re: thought industry/fw
Message-ID: <970314030355_-2040850849@emout09.mail.aol.com>
just in case you haven't heard, here's some info on fates from metal blade,
and also (opf more interest to me) is thought industry info. dig it.
more to come soon from me.
ytsegoon
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david yoichi kobayashi
binghamton university
bd91014@binghamton.edu
"i am not born to drink the milk you pour for me...i am the milk!...come
stand by my saucer full of life and i will stand happily by yours. shake
friends...spill out and wet the floor...run run run out..go!...be glad to mix
with me and i will be glad to mix with you...and we will run faster into our
tomorrows." -the anatomy of man
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Forwarded message:
Subj: Re: re: thought industry/fw
Date: 97-03-13 14:55:18 EST
From: MtlBldRcds
To: Wild Koba
I'M ANSWERING THIS BUT I'M NOT MEL I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND. I'M ANSWERING ALL
THE FW E MAIL NOW. THE NEW FW ALBUM WILL BE OUT APRIL 22 AND IT'S CALLED A
PLEASANT SHADE OF GRAY.
THE NEW THOUGHT INDUSTRY IS BLACK UMBRELLA AND WILL BE OUT IN EARLY JUNE
TRACY
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:04:03 -0500 (EST)
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: new albums, songs that do funky shit to me, and et al.
Message-ID: <970314030402_-1907571361@emout11.mail.aol.com>
for someone who thought he had no chance to get into law school 3 acceptances
ain't too bad (5 more waiting). holy shit!
anyways, browsing thru the jams i've seen things about new albums and songs
that do it for me....and of course, being the follower of (m)ass that i am, i
have to jump in on this.
first of all, if you haven't already, i definitely recommend the following
albums:
a) david bowie- earthling; i know i creamed in my pants about this a few
weeks ago, but 3 weeks later, and i'm still gushing. it's
IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE! opens your head up nicely with its mix of techno/jungle,
nineinchnails, and king crimson flavors. reeves gabrels gets my nod for
guitarist of the year, and unless someone comes out with a completely
mind-blowing album, this is the best thing to come out of 97. seriously.
b) renaissance- king biscuit flower hour, part one; very good live show
featuring classic renaissance tunes done with the london symphony orchestra.
according to the band, this album sounds a lot better than other live
recordings and it shows.
c) tori amos- over the pink; not UNDER, but OVER. yes, OVER. it's a
collection of b-sides and extended singles of "god", but as a treat, you also
get to hear her do a "verrrrrrrrrry interesting" version of hendrix's if 6
was 9 and joni mitchell's "a case of you". if you're REEEEEEALY into tori,
this is a hard find (i've been looking for the hendrix cover for 2 years, and
i found in of all places, providence, rhode island), and if you're reeeeealy
into tori or into hendrix and need to get the same effect some people get
from ingesting motor oil, go for it.
anyone here into ronald shannon jackson and the decoding society? please
email me if so...
ok, onto songs that do things to me...it's weird- for whatever reasons, i
don't let songs move me so much anymore...i don't know.....i think it's from
bad vibes i get from certain fans of a certain female musician, but
anyway....laugh at me now, but when i become the world's 1st 12-tome rock
star and write pieces that send currents through your body, who'll be all big
and bad, laughing back?
why, ted kaczynski, of course.
songs (or parts thereof) that make me think "orgasm" or "fuck"
david bowie- "looking for satellites"- reeve's solo just makes me think
"wow...orgasm."
prince- "gett off".....from the master, i suppose.
dt- "caught in a web", "mirror" "lie" - i'll try to explain some other time
type o negative- "love you to death"
songs that make me think "bombastic"
yes- "south side of the sky"
renaissance- "trip to the fair"
garbage- "vow"
tori amos- "yes, anastasia"
king's x- "life going by"
songs that make me think "space"
anything from yes' "topographic oceans"
pink floyd- "wish you were here"- the whole album
songs that make me think "kill"
fiuczynski/medeski- "lillies that fester"
marilyn manson- "irresponsible hate anthem"
living colour- "auslander", "time's up"
thought industry- "fairy"
sara mclachlan- "hold on"
nineinchnails- "reptile"
pink floyd- "dark side of the moon".........all of it
dt- "a change of seasons"
kevin moore- "blanket"
peter gabriel- "digging in the dirt"
songs that make me think "move body in certain ways so as to attract
attention from opposite sex"
shannon jackson- "street priest"
screaming headless torsos (awesome band!)- graffiti cemetery
vernon reid- "the projects"
bjork- "enjoy"
blah.......enough. later.
ytsegoon
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david yoichi kobayashi
binghamton university
bd91014@binghamton.edu
".....and all of these emotions of mine keep holding me from giving my life
to a rainbow like you...." -j. hendrix
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:55:28 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: tori a fyi / ndtc
Message-ID: <199703140855.AAA00117@ms.kallback.com>
> but as a treat, you also get to hear her do a "verrrrrrrrrry interesting"
version of >hendrix's if 6 was 9 and joni mitchell's "a case of you".
----------
Those are also both on the Limited Edition Cornflake Girl single.
EastWest 7567-85688-2 A7281CDX Digipak
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:47:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Gratuitous MP reference;Bay Area radio
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.93.970314012918.23047C-100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Wed, 12 Mar 1997 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> From: kristopher long <long16@matrix.newpaltz.edu>
>
[message deleted]
>
> Kris Long
>
> "You second-hand mechanic donkey bottom biter!"
You know, I'm not exactly positive, but I think it goes "...you cheesy lot
of second-hand electric donkey-bottom biters!"
Anyway, next time, get it right, you tiny-brained wiper of other people's
bottoms!
(Sorry, couldn't resist:).
> ------------------------------
> From: Scott <skooc@earthlink.net>
>
> like they had at one time, but it still sucks. Up here in N. Cal it's even
> worse. San Francisco radio sucks blue whale's dad and the only half way decent
> radio stations are in San Jose.
Actually, I can only think of ONE half-way decent station around here
(92.3 in SJ). There's no question the radio just sucks around here. For
Bay Area listeners, if you haven't tried them yet, I highly recommend a
bunch of college stations around the area (try 89.7, 90.1, 90.3, and/or
90.7). The 90.3 station (KUSF) actually has an all-night metal show going
from 2 a.m.-8 a.m. on Saturday nights/Sunday mornings.
And if any of you happen to catch a metal show at some other time on ANY
radio station, PLEASE e-mail me. I'm dying to get more of this stuff.
Oh, yeah, I also have a small miracle to report. Last night, completely
by accident, I caught part of Iron Maiden's "Rime of the Ancient Mariner"
on KSJO. Couldn't believe my ears. Whenever I tune in to KSJO, they're
always playing SHIT. I guess I just got lucky. Anyway, it was definitely
a treat.
Younis Hilal-------------------------------yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu
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