YTSEJAM Digest 2348
Today's Topics:
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2) Re: DT touring with Megadeth
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
3) whatever
by MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY <skooc@earthlink.net>
4) Queensryche - Hear in the Now Frontier (NDTC)
by cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers)
5) Elizabethan Curses
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
6) 2112
by SandS@challserv.challenger.net (Sally Murphy)
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2347
by RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU
8) sold out?
by imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg)
9) Civilized mayhem
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
10) Shadow Gallery
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
11) Clockwork in NYC???
by "Anthony N. Sciamanna" <st96d6z4@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu>
12) I'll make a bargain with you...
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
13) Drowning
by Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2342
by ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2344
by ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
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"So?"
"Think. What else have you learned since then?"
"I don't know. That my sister's in the Yamato militia?"
"Yes, and what else?"
"I don't know, dammit!"
"Who else has learned this since then?"
Well, there were several people who had discovered this, but he guessed the
answer that Sleeper wanted to hear. "Daniel?"
Sleeper smiled.
"But I don't get it! What does that have to do with anything?"
"Why did he just discover this now? Why had he not learned this some time
ago?"
"Because Jen had been keeping it from him."
"Yes. What did she keep telling him and you when she went out driving?"
"That she was doing it because she liked to go out on a drive."
"So what does this represent?"
"I don't know, deceit? Deception?"
Sleeper smiled again.
"Are you saying that Deceit is my second 'dance?'"
"You see? You are the only one who can successfully complete this mission.
And you do have the tools to do it. You just need to have more confidence in
yourself."
Metropolis was about to ask how, but he already knew how Sleeper would answer,
so he just shrugged and went back to his business.
---The cops who had arrested Jennifer had her fingerprinted, her mug shot taken, and then locked her in her cell. She sat on the bed, crying.
Dan looked at her, feeling betrayed by her, wishing he could help her, but knowing deep down inside that there was nothing he could do. Many of the other cops gave their condolences, but their words of sympathy did nothing to console him.
Dan went over to the cell where his wife was imprisioned and stood, staring at the woman who, before tonight, was his wife to be.
"Well, I guess we won't be getting married this Friday," she tried to joke, but her heart wasn't in it.
"Jen, why? What made you want to join a group such as this? Don't you know what they do to people?"
"Yes, I know. But, after the last election, I was kind of downhearted. Governor Prudgeon had done so many things wrong in his administration, taken so much from us without giving back, betrayed the people, and yet he managed to get back into office. Then I remembered a conversation I had several months ago. A friend told me about these scandals where all political races were were a competition to find out who could out-cheat the other, but that there was a group who could stop it, so I decided to check it out. By the time I found out it was the Yamato, it was too late. I was in too deep. They had stirred me up so badly that I had no choice but to join. And the rest is history."
"Well, why didn't you tell me?"
"Well, when I first started investigating, we weren't seeing each other too seriously yet, so I didn't feel any need to. But, again, by the time I discovered that I was dealing with the Yamato, it was too late. If I had told you, you would have certainly had me arrested."
"Look, I'm sorry. I'll do what I can to get you-"
Then, an explosion came through the wall. Jen was thrown to the ground, but not seriously hurt. Through the newly created hole, they could see the altercation that was going on outside.
"Come on! Let's get out of here!"
"I can't do that!"
"Come on, Dan. No matter what's happened, I still love you, and I know that Yamato sharpshooters have deadly accurate aim, and if they find you, you will not remain alive! Now come on!"
Dan unlocked the cell door, and they ran for safety outside the compound.
---
As they got to the edge of the city, they hid in a ditch, safe from harm.
"What will we do now?"
"I've still got my radio. We can listen to police traffic and find out just what the hell is going on."
Dan set his radio to listening mode. The voice of a police guard came through. "The unidentified conquestors have retreated and the compound is under control. Reports of a missing prisoner, Jennifer Attreides, have come through, but no sightings have been reported."
"Oh, God," Jen cried. "We can't-"
"Quiet! Listen!"
The guard's voice came through on the radio again. "Reports show that the prisoner escaped with Seargant Dan Marks through a hole in her cell wall created when a contact grenade detonated in the compound wall."
"Wait, a contact grenade?" Jennifer said, "Then it couldn't have been the Yamato militia! We don't use contact grenades!"
"Well, if it wasn't the Yamato trying to bust you out, who was it?"
"Well, of all the groups that use contact grenades, none of us are allies. In fact, the Saratoga...Oh, my God."
"What?"
"I know who it was and why they were attacking! The Saratoga are our direct enemies. We believe in strict democracy, they believe in authoritarian government. They want to kill our high officials so that they can force our soldiers to fight for them! They were trying to kill me!"
"You were that important? Oh, God, Jennifer..."
"We've got to get out of here. We've got to get to our compound! It's the only place we'll be safe!"
"But we destroyed it in the raid! There's no place your people could have gathered to!"
"Oh, God, Dan..." Jennifer fell into Dan's arms and shed bitter tears.
"There, there, now. I love you. And as long as you're with me, I will not let anything happen to you."
End Part 4
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:19:04 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: DT touring with Megadeth Message-ID: <199703150726.HAA39090@out2.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 03/14/97 3:00pm -0800
Lars,
ok...I mean seriously here...for people that are so open to musicianship, there seems to be a real, whats the word, barrier when it comes to Megadeth. fyi here folks, Dave and Marty rythm wise could destroy JP...that's a fact. JP is impressive as a lead player and he can sure as hell hold his own on a rythm base BUT Dave and Marty are the more solid players. I'd like to see Nick and Mike go up in a drum contest and as for bassists, well, both David and John are pretty damn impressive and it's kinda hard to say which one is better...but the point here is this. Megadeth is not a shitty band because they play music 1000times faster than DT (or for that matter faster passages) and for that matter, they're music is just as intelligent as DT's. I mean, when you start judging a band by their fan base? that's pretty stupid, what the hell does that say about the band? absolutely jack shit.
And lars...as you said it would never happen...Mike or the people on the list never suggested anything to Dave about DT touring...it was the other way around..it was Dave's idea. Now, DT would NOT blow Deth off the stage for a reason. 2 different styles of music. Both bands would be equally impressive on stage.
So Lars, next time you think us as megadeth fans are stupid, how about trying to get to know us and coming down off of your little pedestal. If you want some proof on my intelligence, read my web page, learn something that you just don't know. In fact, read a few megadeth web pages done by other fans, you'll see how intelligent we really are.
Mark *You must unlearn, what you have learned, only then, will you have learned something. - Yoda, Star Wars *I have learned, that I know nothing - Mark Smeets *You have not yet completed your training - Yoda, Star Wars Check out the Megadeth Faq: http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/FRONT.HTM My Page: http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/INDEX.HTM
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Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:38:00 -0800 (PST) From: MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: whatever Message-ID: <199703150738.XAA27315@greece.it.earthlink.net>
>Are people on the pearl jam Jam discussing Dream Theater ?? >The answer is NO. >keep this a flannel fool free zone.
>Enuff Z'Nuff
Oh I'm sorry, is this the Enuff Z'Nuff jam? I doubt it since to have a mailing list you need to have FANS. I think the total sales of all their releases probably is in the dozens. ;)
>>Is there anyone who can tell me where I can locate a copy or two of >>"KISS Meets Phantom Of The Park?" Thanx much. >This is because April Fool's day is coming up, and this is a gag gift, right? >Please tell me you don't consider this peice of camp/crap to be of any value?!
I wouldn't exactly call it a highlight in Television history but I bet it's better than anything your feeble little mind could come up with.
My list of sensitive songs by MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY. I'm using my Penn name because I wrote this in the Penn.
You're Breaking My Heart - Harry Nilsson Let's Have A War! - Fear No Presents For Christmas - King Diamond The Oath - Mercyful Fate Come To The Sabbath - Mercyful Fate Fucking Hostile - Pantera The Lemon Song - Led Zeppelin Cold Ethyl - Alice Cooper Beat On The Brat - Ramones Search and Destroy - Iggy Pop Whiplash - Metallica 2 X 4 - Metallica Walk - Pantera Bodies - Sex Pistols Jeremy - Pearl Jam Christmas With The Devil - Spinal Tap One More Minute - Weird Al Yankovic Come On And Dance - Motley Crue Ten Seconds to Love - Motley Crue Night Prowler - AC/DC Helter Skelter - Beatles The Beautiful People - Marilyn Manson So What - Metallica Version I Love The Dead - Alice Cooper Closer - Nine Inch Nails
*************************************************************************** My member is black, as black as night. It am an ebony Rhythmstick. You want to see it, you want to see it; here it am, here it am. It am as big as a 14 lb ham. Thank you.
Poem called "My Member" from Private Parts soundtrack. ***************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 11:32:22 GMT From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) Subject: Queensryche - Hear in the Now Frontier (NDTC) Message-ID: <M.031597.123222.76@wxs2-11.worldaccess.nl>
On sale in the Netherlands since yesterday, March 14th. A fine album, let me tell you that right away. Not as typically Queensryche as you might hope for, not as progressive as some of their offerings, but definitely rocking. Geoff Tate's vocals are a bit less pure, especially when he goes higher and louder, but this doesn't at all decrease the magic that is his voice. Haven't listened to all the tracks yet (right now track), but "Get a Life" is my favourite so far. A shame it's only 3 and a half minute long (the total album is nearly one hour, though, with 14 tracks). Some people have said there is more of a grunge influence, well, I'd have to agree. But it's the good bits of grunge. I heard a few things that I connected with Soundgarden and the least bad of all grunge bands, old Pearl Jam. I might mail again with a review of more tracks. But, to cut a long story short, the album is definitely no disappointment. "Test For Echo" was more of a letdown (although it wasn't much of a letdown, honestly). -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Richard Karsmakers cronos@worldaccess.nl | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ C.R.I.M.E. Development; "Twilight World" Magazine; WWW-MMM "ST NEWS" ST/TT/Falcon disk magazine; "Ultimate Virus Killer" Gwar FUQ II & GEMulator FAQ maintainer P.O. Box 67, 3500 AB, Utrecht, Netherlands /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?" | \--------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 03:43:52 -0800 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Elizabethan Curses Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970315034347.006a7fb8@cats.ucsc.edu>
Kudos to the jammer who posted the curse URL. I translated the Perl script into a java applet and put it up on my homepage. I don't have permission from the original author to do it, so if he gfets angry I may have to take it down, but for now it's there. It has a fairly easy interface. click on the applet to get a new curse.
Go to my homepage (as seen in my .sig) and select the "distractions" option -- not the most mnemonic of things, true, but I've needed to revamp those pages for a while now.
__ /\ __ +-------------------------------------+ __\/__\/__ | ~Chris |-+ \_||_/ | | | /__||__\ | http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/ | | // \ | \\ +-------------------------------------+ | \| +-------------------------------------+
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 07:36:01 -0600 From: SandS@challserv.challenger.net (Sally Murphy) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 2112 Message-ID: <19970315133600784.AAA195@SandS>
Hey, guys, I just saw a commercial for a new Nerf toy. It shoots some sort of darts with laser sighting and stuff. Whatever. The name of this toy?? Nerf Max Force 2112!!!! "Attention all planets of the Solar Federation, we have assumed control!"
They're starting the kids earlier now. Just think! By the next generation, prog will rule the world!! Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Sorry. Shane SandS@mail.challenger.net
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 09:17:23 -0500 (EST) From: RASI2290@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2347 Message-ID: <01IGIYHK1NFM00U07G@SPLAVA.CC.PLATTSBURGH.EDU>
>What sort of clothing does a progressve metaller buy? what do they drink?
What to progressive metallers drink? Hmmmm. Chris, what's that green stuff called again? :)
Joshua
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 06:58:54 -0800 (PST) From: imajica@algonet.se (Niklas Thorpenberg) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: sold out? Message-ID: <199703151458.GAA25169@odin.ax.com>
Hi everyone! Could anyone please confirm (or preferably say that it's just a nasty rumour) that the tickets for the Melkweg show is actually sold out. Is that really possible? As much as I love DT, I find it hard to believe that they would sell 3000 tickets in one week.
BTW, I picked up Nuno's Schizophonic today, used, for about $11. How about that?
oOo If a man could pass through Paradise in a dream, and have a flower presented to him as a pledge that his soul had really been there, and if he found that flower in his hand when he awoke - Aye, and what then? oOo Niklas
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:07:13 -0500 From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Civilized mayhem Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970315110709.006856dc@ici.net>
>I think what we need is a bit more class. More panache! Which is why >I think that when you have the urge to blow somebody's head off with >your computer keyboard, you should do it in a more civilized manner.
Well, who cares what you think, thou artless hasty-witted lewdster!
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> And if anyone of the poop-heads who took this to heart STILL carry > an unreasonable grudge against myself or my comments after this date, > we can arrainge a "pleasant" meeting where I may bash your SHIT-ENGORGED > HEADS in....whatdoya think???
Hey, if you're gonna apologize, then do it; if not, don't. I personally don't even know what post you're talking about, since you didn't list any attributions. But don't spread more shit in here like that. We've got all we need in here right now, thou fobbing tardy-gaited remnant!
Damn...this is FUN.....
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:29:13 -0500 From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net> To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Shadow Gallery Message-ID: <332ACE59.612B@earthlink.net>
> I asked about Shadow Gallery, and they DO have > >their first one available, but I'd have to wait 8 weeks. :P Who cares?! > > What is the phone # to this store? I need a copy, too. > > J. Keifling
I just received both SHADOW GALLERY albums (I'm beginning to like the first one better!!..too bad production isn't the best) and the first MAGELLAN disc directly from Magna Carta..took about 4 weeks. Exactly like they said it would. I would go through them instead..you can get all their info from their websire at http://www.zaks.com/magnacarta/
cheers, Carlo
-- _ __| |__ "When you know that your time is close at hand |__ __| maybe then you'll begin to understand | | Life down here is just a strange illusion." | | |_|
--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:41:52 -0500 From: "Anthony N. Sciamanna" <st96d6z4@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Clockwork in NYC??? Message-ID: <v03007802af50814a46c0@DialupEudora>
No this isn't the same Clockwork. None of the other "Clockworks" have the name trademarked. Our trademark is currently pending. But if anyone knows how to get in touch one of these other "clockworks" I'd appreciate the info.
*********************************** * Anthony Sciamanna * * Drums and Percussion * * CLOCKWORK * * st96d6z4@post.drexel.edu * ***********************************
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:09:06 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'll make a bargain with you... Message-ID: <199703151709.MAA01512@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Who ever wants to get a copy of the Fix for 96 boot, let me know. I want a copy of another progressive band that is like DT to help tide me over until the CD release. If interested e mail me privately. Thanks... the J man.
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:36:21 -0600 (CST) From: Cygnus <rctaylor@students.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Drowning Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970315132455.16672A-100000@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu>
I can definitely see how we are drowning in certain types of music. At Best Buy yesterday I saw rows and rows of Pearl Jam albums. And they only have 4 different albums! It was 3 or 4 times the size of Rush's section, who has 20 albums! But from their standpoint, it's a business and they must go with what they think will sell. All I can say is that if Pearl Jam were my favorite band rather than DT, I would have a much easier time finding their stuff, but it's all matter of personal choice. There is never going to be a new genre of music that will please everyone, thus there are many different styles. This is a good thing. We all need some sort of variety. Heck, we all get some variety within DT's music. Although it is a mesh of my personal favorite styles, it will not be for other people. So too with any type of music, whether it be grunge or rap or country. I may not personally like them, but others do, and their musical taste has just as much merit as anyone else's. I just felt I had to get this off my chest.
***Rob*** rctaylor@uiuc.edu
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:38:46 -0500 (EST) From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2342 Message-ID: <199703151938.OAA18967@freenet2.carleton.ca>
>The dwarf smiled. "I am he that brings all joy to mankind. I am the paragon >of happiness." He gave the last phrase a magical flavor. "I am the source of >miracles."
>"I have slept for centuries awaiting the time when I will be needed again. I >am the keeper of wisdom, and it will be my duty to aid you in your task."
Nice, but Rush did this one back in 1978. The dead-but-not-dead part was in there too but I forgot to quote it.
-- "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:48:40 -0500 (EST) From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2344 Message-ID: <199703151948.OAA21074@freenet2.carleton.ca>
>An unordered list of countries I have never visited >--------------------------------------------------- > >1. France >2. Denmark >3. Mexico >4. Uruguay >5. People's Republic of Yemen >6. Nicaragua >7. India >8. Germany >9. Brazil >10. Seattle >11. Honduras >12. Albania >13. Turkmenistan >14. England >15. Japan >16. Australia >17. New Zealand >18. Greenland >19. Phillipines >20. China >21. Italy >22. Kuwait >23. El Salvador >24. Iraq >25. Wales >26. Norway >27. Chile >28. Egypt >29. Congo >30. Jordan >31. Ethiopia >32. Burkina Faso >33. Croatia >34. Kazakhstan >35. Iceland >36. Poland >37. North Korea >38. Mongolia >39. Scotland >40. Peru >41. Sweden >42. Finland >43. Vatican City >44. Belize >45. Switzerland >46. Cuba >47. Antigua >48. Holland >49. Antartica >50. Kansas >51. South Korea >52. Vietnam >53. Republic of China >54. Estonia >55. Slovenia >56. Armenia >57. Barbados >58. Guam >59. Lesser Antilles >60. Argentina >61. Cambodia >62. Nevada >63. Curacao >64. South Africa >65. Syria >66. Albania
With respect sir, I would like to help you with your point. This is, is no particular order, a COMPLETE list of my favourite alphanumeric characters. Feel free to add your own!
1) 1 2) l 3) A 4) A (I really like this one) 5) b 6) ~ 7) : 8) ` 9) ^ 10) + 11) = 12) P 13) 2 14) ? 15) ! 16) D 17) (this is a space but you can't see it!!!!) 18) ( 19) | 20) ^H (that's a backspace for you Windows users) 21) A (I *LOVE* this one!) 22) * 23) / 24) (the often overlooked tab) 25) q
Of course those are only the ones that I can print with this editor. There are many hi-bit that I could use to flush this out to 60+ but hopefully it won't come to that.
PS I've never visited Kazakhstan either but I hear it's cold. Of course since you've been to Siberia you're the one to tell me HOW cold it is (or you could make a list)
-- "To seek the sacred river Alph, and walk the caves of ice..." - Rush "Ashes and Diamonds,Foe and Friend/We were all equal in the end." -Pink Floyd "The sands of time were eroded by the river of constant change." - Genesis "Others steal your thoughts they're not confined within your mind"-DreamTheater
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