YTSEJAM Digest 2352
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Friedman & Petrucci
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
2) Re: Megadeth
by Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
3) Savatage, etc.
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
4) Re: Nuno Batancourt/ Savantage/Queensryche
by Kristin Dumas <jdumas@neosoft.com>
5) subscribing
by elfmaid@ix.netcom.com (nicole m gerace)
6) Re: Megadeth
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
7) ytsejam
by Mike Lowe <mlowe@concentric.net>
8) Lars rules...
by CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
9) Re: Megadeth
by "Louie The Drunken Irishman" <patrick-worrall@Augustana.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2351
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
11) To the guitarists.
by Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
12) Metropolis Story URL
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
13) New DT drummer?
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
14) Re: Metro
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
15) i cant help but respond :) metropolis precussion
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
16) Hmmm.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@m5.sprynet.com>
17) DT with MD?
by LaSorsa/Matthews <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 07:21:00 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Friedman & Petrucci
Message-ID: <332BE5AC.3E3F@caribe.net>
jescuder@uio.satnet.net wrote:
. MF does not apply at all his hole range of habilities
> when playing in Megadeth, you should really listen to his solo
> albums, this guy really rules and he's as good as JP!
>
this is a point i was waiting to see.. this is very true.. to see
friedman in all his glory ..one has to check out Cacophony..i mean..this
guy doubles solos w/ jason becker..so he must be AWESOME..its just that
in megadeth he is more controlled...
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:00:56 -0500
From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Megadeth
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970316090051.007b9870@ionsys.com>
>Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever
>come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and
>every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I
>think KJLB has a cute butt.
Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your
own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why
you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans.
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 10:00 EST
From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Savatage, etc.
Message-ID: <m0w6HPr-00003BC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Yeah, theres a Savatage site located at
http://www.winternet.com/%7Esavaweb/savatage.html There isn't much located
there about their new album though (I assume you mean the one they are
working on) because not much is known other than they are working on it as
of now but now song titles, album title, or release date are known. However,
it has a very comprehensive look at each and every other album including
pictures, detailed reviews, track lists, biographies, and lyrics.
My thought for a day: If I could put a supergroup together (alive or dead) ,
it would go like this:
Vocals: Madonna
Guitar: Criss Oliva and John Petrucci
Bass/Backing Vocals: Bugs Bunny
Drums: Mike Portnoy
Keyboards: Fiona Apple
Producers: Jon Oliva and Paul O'Neill
Hope it made someone smile.
mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more
to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:47:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Kristin Dumas <jdumas@neosoft.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Nuno Batancourt/ Savantage/Queensryche
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970316093929.3539B-100000@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM>
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 03:08:33 +0000
> From: John Emmons <jemmfam@imperium.net>
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: Nuno Batancourt/ Savantage/Queensryche
> Message-ID: <332B642D.1F54@imperium.net>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there has any Nuno Batancourt (ex-Extreme
> guitarist) solo cds. He has a new album out and I was wondering if it
> was really good, or if there was another one that I should check out
> first..
>
> Also, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can learn more about the
> new Savatage album. Is there a website with more information about it?
>
> And speaking of new releases, does anyone know the exact date of the
> release the new Queensryche album? I have heard that it is around the 22
> or the 25, but I of course want to get it the first day it's out...
>
> thanks for all your time and patience,
> Maria
>
Maria,
The new Queensryche album will be out on March 25, Called "Hear in the Now
Frontier". I've seen a couple posts on here for QR sites, and the one I
enjoy most is at http://www.mcs.net/~ryche/
As for the Savatage and Nuno information I'm at a loss.
Take care!
-Kristin
("`-''-/").___..--''"`-._
`6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) Kristin Dumas
(_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' jdumas@neosoft.com
_..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' http://starbase.neosoft.com/~jdumas/
-(il),-''--(li),'--((!.-'-----------------------------------------------------
Ride, to a place beyond our time ... Reach for the edges of your mind ...
And you're there!
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:44:57 -0600 (CST)
From: elfmaid@ix.netcom.com (nicole m gerace)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: subscribing
Message-ID: <199703161644.KAA20141@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>
okay, i've been a part of this list now about 5
times. can one of you please show me how to
subscribe again?
-nicole
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 10:46:02 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Megadeth
Message-ID: <199703161757.JAA04922@odin.ax.com>
> >Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever
> >come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and
> >every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I
> >think KJLB has a cute butt.
>
> Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your
> own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why
> you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans.
I'm just waiting for other people to start talking about how cute
KJ's butt is, then I'll leave. No one has yet, though, you fucking
dolt! I was only kidding!
This is a guy who thinks he can decide what percentage of people who
listen to Megadeth are on a lower intellectual level then he is. I
tell you, if 80% of the Megadeth fans are below his level, they'd all
be swinging around naked in the Amazon jungle.
Oh, shit, I'm putting this baby to rest...
KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net
Disclaimer:
The content expressed in the previous document is
not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated
of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is
advised.
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Date: 3/16/1997 14:17
From: Mike Lowe <mlowe@concentric.net>
Subject: ytsejam
Message-ID: <199703161818.NAA13112@newman.concentric.net>
i would like to subscribe and be placed on the mailing
list.
thanks,
mike lowe
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:53:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: CLARK ABEL <99ABEL@alma.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Lars rules...
Message-ID: <01IGKMCWVJHEAUTJIB@alma.edu>
because he wrote:
>>Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever
>>come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and
>>every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I
>>think KJLB has a cute butt.
>
>Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your
>own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why
>you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans.
Haahaaahaaahaaahaaaah!
I just love it when someone you don't like manages to make themselves look far
more stupid than you ever could have made them look.
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:16:43 CST
From: "Louie The Drunken Irishman" <patrick-worrall@Augustana.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Megadeth
Message-ID: <12EFE60D98@augustana.edu>
>>Well, personally I think Dream Theater's the shittiest band to ever
>>come around. Same with Queensryche, Enchant, Shadow Gallery, and
>>every other prog band. The only reason I listen to them is because I
>>think KJLB has a cute butt.
>
>Then why are you on this mailing list? You're certainly entitled to your
>own opinion, but if you don't like Dream Theater, I have to wonder why
>you're on a mailing list for Dream Theater fans.
>
>
Ever hear of sarcasm...
There's no one to take my blame...if they wanted to
Nothing to keep me sane, and it's all the same to you
There's nowhere to set my aim so I'm everywhere
Never come near me again, do you really think I need you
And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend
And I ll never be open again
And I'll have no more dreams to defend
And I'll never be open again
Dream Theater - Space-Dye Vest
+++Pat Worrall+++Augustana College+++
*****Mailto:Patrick-Worrall@Augustana.Edu*****
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:16:48 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2351
Message-ID: <199703162016.MAA04473@f2.hotmail.com>
Another is that it is probably
>the agression of our music that has been turning off the judges, who seem to
>prefer the more traditional (extremely pussy) shows. Our music is biting
>and aggressive, and they just can't seem handle it.
Trust me-judges suck. :-)
>
>>Paul Attredies
>Hmm, seems mighty close to Paul Atreides from Frank Herbert's Dune.
>BTW, I dig the story :). Keep posting it.
It's finished, and it can now be found, in its entirety at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289/metroindex.html
>All i know is that we need more DT airplay and TV play
Damn straight!
>>Wait a minute-Wasn't KI$$' drummer Peter Criss? What happened to him?
>
>Peter Criss was their original drummer and is on the current "We have come
>for your wallets" tour. Eric joined the band in unofficially in 1991 when
>Eric Carr was sick with cancer then "officially" joined after Carr's death.
Learn something new every day...
>Friends,
> Weren't Metropolis and The Killing Hand both based on stories JP
>originally wrote? No offense to Eric, I think what he's doing is tre
>cool, but isn't that right? Be well.
Wow-learn something new every day. First, I inadvertently include a Rush
reference, and next I find I wrote a story based on a song that was based on a
story.
Cool.
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:04:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Daedalus <Mathew.J.Birskovich@williams.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: To the guitarists.
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970316160117.26481A-100000@colrain.williams.edu>
Greetings friends,
As the other resident blind guy here, I have some questions. Can
anyone give me, by private e-mail of course, a description of asci
tabliture? Could someone tell me what each symbol means and give me an
example? I'd really appreciate it, 'cuz there's a million and one songs I
want to learn, and transcription amidst a liberal arts education is a
bitch. Please help. Be well.
Matt B
P.S. Sorry for no band content whatsoever, but then, who's really topical
these days?
====================
"You are all weirdos. Hmph." (Sam the Eagle, The
Great Muppet Movie)
"Now all we need is a little enerjon, and a lot of luck." (Optimus Prime,
Transformers the Movie)
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:13:13 -0800 (PST)
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Metropolis Story URL
Message-ID: <199703162113.NAA25460@f17.hotmail.com>
For those of you who missed one or more parts to my story based on
"Metropolis,"(or who just want to read it again :-) ) I have posted it to my
story archive. You can follow the link to my homepage, follow the link to my
story archive, and you'll find it from there.
Enjoy!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:21:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New DT drummer?
Message-ID: <199703162121.QAA22385@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
n the Eve of Destruction, MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY said:
>I was just curious; if Mike Portnoy decided to leave DT (HE'S NOT, SO RELAX!)
>who do you think would be a good replacement. My pick would have to be Eric
>Singer. Lots of you may not like KI$$, but Eric is a brilliant drummer that
>would compliment ANY band that he plays for.
>
I would say Simon Phillips...
Agreed! Either Simon or Greg D'angelo or Tommy Lee (just kidding)
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:22:15 -0500
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Metro
Message-ID: <332C7297.263@caribe.net>
Swanson wrote:
>
> After today's show, in which we were yet again ranked second to last, I got
> to see a video of us for the first time. On the same tape there was on
do you think we could work out something in order to get me a tape of
that? it sounds interesting
"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur.
The risk to survival is severe."
Ian Malcolm
http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro
mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 16:05:03 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: i cant help but respond :) metropolis precussion
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970316220503.00736684@mail.inlink.com>
>
>For the past couple of months, the main focus of my life has been working on
>and performing Metropolis in the Chatfield Percussion Ensemble. The show is
>a beautiful piece of work and I couldn't be prouder of our first effort in
>the competitive percussion world. Anyone who knows anything about
>percussion competitions knows how hard and how cool it can be. I am pretty
>confident that our show is better than the other groups in our class.
>
>There's just one problem. The judges don't seem to think the same way I do.
>They have been consistently scoring us very low, and ranking us as the
>second to last drumline in the state of Colorado.
a good show of confidence doesnt hurt, but just because you're playing a
dream theater song doesnt necessarily mean its going to come out good. its
the hardest shit in the world to play.. i've seen people who've attempted to
play stuff before, i've done it myself, then when you get a chance to listen
to it you can find out it really blows crap. not saying it does, just that
you're taking a pretty vile 'tude towards these judges.
therefore, it aint braggin if you can back it up, to quote good ol' jaco, so
make some .wav files off this video, and put them on the web. anyone can
say they're good, who can prove it?
ah yes, i love the sound of a thrown gauntlet. actually i just want some
excitement here. make some .wav files and prove us your worth, foolish mortal!
~Rip
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:21:57 -0800
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@m5.sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hmmm.
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970316142157.006885ac@m5.sprynet.com>
Greetings, Jamlings.
Wow. You know what? The jam sorta SUCKS lately! I unsubbed a few months
ago, then resubbed a week ago. Can we say boring? I mean, take this for
instance:
>Hope you enjoyed it, and sorry I had to chop it in half!
>
>Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
>
>Eric Paul LaRue
>
Jesus christ. That was almost as deep as the G.I Joe choose your own
adventure stories I used to read. Not to mention, I started the "write
stories that you think up while listening to DT songs" thread about a year
ago once, and people thought it sucked then. Even though my voices story
was cool, dammit.
>I just figured that I
>was biased because I'm in the ensemble, and that we probably haven't been
>working as hard as these other groups.
Well, hate to put it really bluntly...but maybe it's because you suck. Get
over it. Write something else.
Just because you like Dream Theater doesn't mean you rule all piss. Maybe
it means you want to be cool for liking a band that nobody else has heard
of, and you couldn't care less what's in the music.
> Our music is biting
>and aggressive, and they just can't seem handle it.
Kinda like the English language is biting and agressive, and you just can't
seem handle it?
>If you guys can think of any way to help us make our
>final show be something really special, then let me know.
Play naked.
Mark Smeets and Lars Hellsten......Just shut up. Nobody cares.
>Oh..and to show I'm having fun...Lars...a personal invitation.
>I am on irc, in fact, I am on the DT server/channel etc...If
>you like, you can meet me there and you can confront me and
>see just how stupid I actually am.
Hey Mr. Smartypants...Lars Hellsten used to come on IRC before any jammers
ever knew who you were. He left for probably the same reason I'm thinking
about it. It's boring as hell there too. People just fight.
>All i know is that we need more DT airplay and TV play
Thank you Bob Profound. <thwap>
>From: MAMALOOKABOOBOODAY <skooc@earthlink.net>
The only half-way entertaining thing in the whole jam.
>I was just curious; if Mike Portnoy decided to leave DT (HE'S NOT, SO RELAX!)
>who do you think would be a good replacement. My pick would have to be Eric
>Singer. Lots of you may not like KI$$, but Eric is a brilliant drummer that
>would compliment ANY band that he plays for.
The fact that he played for Kiss automatically rules out the possibility
that he has any talent whatsoever. In all the 1,457 or so times that thread
has come up, that's the most retarded response I've ever seen. Besides, we
all know I'd be the best replacement.
In conclusion...I just wanna ask if anybody else remembers when the jam
used to be FuN. SuPeR fUn. I used be all excited when I got home to go
check my mail and read the Jam. There weren't huge freakin' arguments about
what band sucks and what band doesn't. There were people with senses of
humor. You guys need to stop taking stuff so personally. You saying "this
band sucks" is just not going to change anybody else's opinion about that
band. I mean, take Lars and Mark for instance. Now they aren't even arguing
about Megadeth. They're arguing about if they have brains or not. Go back
to kindergarten, guys. Besides people arguing, there's one line posts such
as..."hey, check out this new band." Fact is..we've already heard of all
those damned prog bands. And frankly, they're all starting to sound the
same. Hootie-syndrome, if you know what I mean. Soembody needs to be
original. I don't care if you can play your instrument well, if you sound
exactly like somebody else, I don't wanna buy it. So.."Man, these guys
RULE! They sound exactly like DT!" Guess what. DT doesn't even sound like
DT anymore. Have you heard the new stuff? It all comes down to the fact
that not everybody thinks like you, and not everybody is going to think
like you, and you should try to get everybody to think like you because
that's BORING, and BORING SUCKS, and that's why the jam isn't good, because
it's BORING, because i've seen all this stuff before, every single thing in
the last jam I've read, I've seen in another jam in one form or another.
Now, don't go saying "Why don't YOU do something new?", because I'm gonna
try, and I don't wana sound like I'm trying to be your leader in to the new
ytse-frontier or anything, but i AM going to try, because the jam WAS one
of the coolest things there was once, and I'd like to see it back that way,
so, with that, goodbye.
Ben Laussade
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 17:26:44 -0500 (EST)
From: LaSorsa/Matthews <dtgnr@nh.ultranet.com>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT with MD?
Message-ID: <199703162226.RAA30556@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
I just got back from my trip and I look at one jam and there is talk of DT
touring with MD. HOLY SHIT would that be an explosive show.. I love
Megadeth. Dave Mustaine is the man. I think that the two bands WOULD
compliment each other. They are ALL outstanding musicians. Can anyone fill
me in on how this sort of came about (private email) Thanks.
Tony
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