YTSEJAM Digest 2391
Today's Topics:
1) Qr Album
by EricD91011@aol.com
2) QR cover
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
3) New CD Acquisitions
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
4) I&W vs. Awake, QR stuff.
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
5) Fast is as fast does
by Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
6) New QR?
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
7) voices, metropolis?
by the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
8) There's no such thing
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
9) I'm moving to Germany damnit!!!!!
by "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
10) Michael Harris
by cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
11) classifing music
by Scott M Peters <sretep@iastate.edu>
12)
by Mamalookabubuday <skooc@earthlink.net>
13) Awake or I&W
by Loren Caler <llc@sure.net>
14) Re: Superior
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
15) Wanting to order CDs
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
16) NDTC-Night Ranger Misinformation
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
17) RE: Wanting to order CDs
by trevorw@ms.kallback.com
18) Look what I got from Santa... errr the mailman I mean...
by Olli-Pekka Komonen <opk@hlti.fi>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2390
by strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
20) Generation X.
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:13:40 -0500 (EST)
From: EricD91011@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Qr Album
Message-ID: <970326231339_181386922@emout02.mail.aol.com>
The music is fine, but oh man whoever decided on the cover art has got to go,
horrid. If you want to smash something QR did, pick that not the music.
Take the time.
-Eric
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:44:07 -0600
From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: QR cover
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970327044407.0075b288@mail.inlink.com>
>
>The music is fine, but oh man whoever decided on the cover art has got to go,
>horrid. If you want to smash something QR did, pick that not the music.
i havent heard the disc yet, but i've seen the cover and LOVE IT. it almost
got me to buy the cd on the spot, even tho i know where to get it for
cheaper. the coloring and texture just blows me away, my favorite QR cd
cover yet. just my cents :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:49:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New CD Acquisitions
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970326223459.25468B-100000@comp>
Okay, been a long time since I posted, but I got some cool new tunes I
wanted to share some insights on.
ANACRUSIS -- Manic Impressions
Somebody finally sent me the CD of this that I had been waiting on (hi
Chris).. :) Anyway, not quite as good as the album after it, Screams and
Whispers, but it's worth it just for 'I Love the World'. This band is
_my_ personal definition of progressive _heavy_ metal (emphasis on the
heavy part). The guitarists are quite talented, the band is tight, the
music is loud, and the screams are chilling. One thing about this band
that I find unique is their use of dissonance... they take this chord
that just grates at your soul, but they somehow manage to pull it off as
something cohesive.
MIGHTY MIGHTY BOSSTONES -- Let's Face It
Haven't listened to this one a whole lot yet, due to album number three to
be reviewed, but I think it's going to grow on me. Their album Question
the Answers is one of my favorite discs, and the single from this one 'The
Impression that I Get' is true to that sound.. the other songs stray
somewhat from the earlier sound however, but I'm sure I'll really get into
this given a few more listens. These guys are what happens when you mix
rock/metal with jazz/ska... pretty unique sound and a lot of talented
guys. A good comparison might be a much heavier, grooveier version of
Dave Matthews Band.
QUEENSRYCHE -- Hear in the Now Frontier
Yeah, everyone else is reviewing it, but I'm gonna do it too. Anyone who
didn't like Promised Land because it was too mellow should check this one
out.... this baby does indeed rock. I hear the grunge influences, but
that's what they are: 'influences'. The main riff to a song might sound
somewhat simple, but there's usually something else hanging in the mix. I
see this album as what happens if you throw Promised Land and a few
assorted grunge bands into a blender. I hear a lot of Promised Land
influences in this, but with the guitars and the aggression turned up.
I also think this album could bridge the older Ryche fans into giving PL a
second chance and discover what they were missing.
One last word on the track where Chris sings (All I Want): This song has
some serious groove to it... maybe one of my favorites so far. You want
progressive? This song sounds _SO_ much unlike Queensryche that I doubt
very many QR fans who heard it without knowing who it was would be able to
pick it out... definitely the Rychean influences in there, but just a
totally fresh twist. More of this stuff, please!! Wait, here comes 'Hit
the Black'.... nevermind, this works too... :)
DrX
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:57:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I&W vs. Awake, QR stuff.
Message-ID: <199703270457.XAA16597@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Hey all.
I just wanted to give my opinion on Images and Words "It sucks!"
Now that I have your attention, I will say that that quote up there was just
a joke.
Actually, I bought the album about 5 years ago because I liked the
song "Pull me Under" which a very talented band at my old high school
covered the song, and actually did it very well. I put the CD in my rack
because I didn't like the rest of the songs. I waited about 2 years and I
pulled it out of my rack again, I had to "Take the time, re-evalute" I had
been listening to "shit" music, that alternative shit. I grew up and
realized that music revolves around talent. I am a drummer and I changed my
style because of this album. Again, I put it back into my CD rack, for
another time. I started listening to Rush at this time and it took up a lot
of my time.
I started hanging out with a different group of guys. All musicians
and incidently all ytsejammers. They opened my eyes and I went out and got
both Awake and ACoS within two days of eachother. I listened to Awake and I
played it out. I listened to ACoS quite a bit too. It was at this point in
time that I realized the DT was the best group around. No group was as
good. I got all that I could of DT, and here I am today. Listening to all
the albums.
Now, for the comparison. All the albums are very progressive. The
only thing that changes on all of the albums is the "heaviness" and
darkness. I really have to say that Awake is still my favorite album
because I am a big fan of dark heaviness to music, call me a headbanger if
you will. I really like how I could finally add superior talent to really
heavy stuff. It is the perfect mix for me.
Now for QR: This band, if you listen real intently to the albums, you will
see that every album is different. If you say they sold out, you are wrong
because Empire was as good of album as any of them to say that. They sold a
lot of records because of "Best I can" "Empire" and the super sellers
"Silent Lucidity" "Jet city woman". I haven't had the oportunity to buy
HITNF. I will tomorrow or rather today considering that it is 12:05 am now.
But from what I have heard around that it is great. Buy it. I bet you
won't be disappointed, I am going to.
BTW, Holy shit! 39 people dead in a mass suicide in California! WOW!
These religious cults are out of hand. First Waco and now this!!
Well I have said enough! Later, J
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:17:09 +0100
From: Brian Henderson <Cyberburlap@icdc.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Fast is as fast does
Message-ID: <199703270617.HAA25809@darkstar.icdc.com>
>Here's someone that hasn't heard enough Jaco, Steve Bailey, Sean Malone,
>Gary Willis, Oteal, Billy Dickens, Alex Webster (fast as fuck, but not
>how you think), John Aldrete, etc.... insert 1,000 other bassists here.
>:) There are lots of people that clock a lot faster than Victor.
Faster than Wooten? Sure, I can believe it. Un-infinite cash flow prevents
me from getting ahold of every goodmusic out there, a common problem, I'd
surmise... "Go atom, young man, go plastic." Hey, I'm working on it...
But, of course, none of *them* can rap. (Just try it, Malone)
Brian Henderson, SimCyberburlap 2000
Cyberburlap@icdc.com
"You couldn't hit the broadside of a ba...! Gccchh..." -- Crispus Attucks
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:19:52 -0600 (CST)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: New QR?
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970326231754.18467A-100000@indy21.gclab.missouri.edu>
I picked up Hear in the Now Frontier by Pearlryche today. Not quite as
bad as I had expected from the early reports, but it is quite a change
from their previous releases. It grows on you though.
Then again, so does fungus.
=20
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:10:30 -0600
From: the-atman@juno.com (d a v)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: voices, metropolis?
Message-ID: <19970326.232059.3662.7.the-atman@juno.com>
ok, so voices hasen't been out in awhile, what about metropolis? what's
it all about?
"on a winters night,
the stars are cold and bright in the sky,
the slumber of the earth is pure and deep"
Lamplight Symphony
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:39:41 -0600
From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: There's no such thing
Message-ID: <19970327053702157.AAA304@cmustard.vonl.com>
woot wrote:
>the sad thing is, their little scheme probably won't work because they
>can't write a decent grunge song. they're not used to it and it's not
their
>style. i can just invision the producer telling the guitarist to slow
down
>cause fast solos aren't taken kindly by grunge fans.
Ahoy,
There is no such thing as a "decent" gunge song... that's why it's called
grunge... because it sucks and should be destroyed... I wouldn't call the
new Queensryche grunge either... there is still good songwriting there... I
admit some of the songs lack a hook or good solo.... but let's not jump to
conclusions and label it the most unworthy and pathetic excuse for a noise,
or grunge. I trust bands like Queensryche, Megadeth, Fates and DT to write
good material because they have continually done it in the past and still
hold those talents. yeah, the material on HitNF is much different, but it's
certainly not grunge.... that's a fact, not an opinion by the way... grunge
can be defined as CRAP. This is not crap.
- and if fast solos aren't taken too kindly by grunge fans, who cares?
They're grunge fans - do they deserve anything better than death?
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:50:06 -0500
From: "Carlo D'Angelo" <helstar@earthlink.net>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: I'm moving to Germany damnit!!!!!
Message-ID: <333A0A8E.6041@earthlink.net>
> Just to make you jealous I'll list the bands that I will probably see live
> within the next two months: Dream Theater, Enchant, Angra, Eldritch,
> Threshold, Symphony X, Lemur Voice, Fates Warning, Conception! :) :) :)
>
shitshitshitshitshitshit!!!!! No one should be able to see these bands
in such a short time frame. May all your CD covers develop those nasty
cracks that just keep growing and grooowing :-)
Since we are practically living in the dark ages here in the US as far
seeing live shows, could you PLEASE review these shows once you see
them. ELDRITCH and SYMPHONY X for God's sake!?!?!?!?!? Two bands so
insanely talented even their roadies sold their soul to the devil. Does
anyone have a review of ELDRITCH's new one "Headquake" yet..I just spoke
to Denis Gulbey (Sentinel Steel) and he said its great so far but not
too many details. He said he should get some in a month and will be
selling them for just $14..best prices I've ever seen. I just ordered
IMPELLITERI'S's debut EP for $10 from him!! (normally its $20-$25) I
also snagged a Japanese pressing of VICIOUS RUMORS "Soldiers of the
Night" (w/ Vinnie Moore) complete with tab inside(!!!!!) for just $16.
anyhow, whoever has has been lucky enough to hear the music of ELDRITCH
and SYMPHONY X..speak up....let your voice be a shining light in such
dark times as these. (Don't ask..I'm in a weird mood.)
P.S. I'm STILL waiting for that damned HELLOWEEN tour that was supposed
to hit the US..or was I dreaming 'bout that too....
cheers,
Carlo (aka Fates, aka YtseSatan)
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--IRON MAIDEN (Hallowed Be Thy Name)
"Neo-classical, progressive, melodic metal"
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:55:53 -0600
From: cmustard@vonl.com (Mark Lampert)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Michael Harris
Message-ID: <19970327055310950.AAA132@cmustard.vonl.com>
Ahoy,
I was browsin' around at Knights of the Round (that rhymes, sort of) and
noticed that Michael Harris' "Ego Decimation Profile" is available! I
strongly suggest to anyone into instrumental guitar to pick this up! To get
his previous release, "Defense Mechanizms" you can order from CDEurope
http://www.cdeurope.com or just email Harris (it would be cheaper) for an
order form... guitout7@aol.com
Check these out!
· • Colonel Mustard • ·
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:01:38 -0600
From: Scott M Peters <sretep@iastate.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: classifing music
Message-ID: <199703270600.AAA11381@mailhub.iastate.edu>
Lot of talk about how to classify music here. I just know good music is
when everytime its in my cd player it "sits" with me and sounds like it just
belongs there.... When everytime you listen to it you still find some sort
of meaning in it to you. Stop labeling with words and start label it with
your ears.
Later,
Scott
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:33:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Mamalookabubuday <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <199703270633.WAA22852@germany.it.earthlink.net>
>If Superior, the Prog band :) has registered their name and so forth,
>and they can get legal rights to the name and PROVE they had it first,
>these little pricks from England gotta find a new name...anyone care
>to bet that these guys ripped off the name?
This brings up an interesting point because of the situation with the band
Bush. All over the world they're known as Bush *except* in Canada where
they're called Bush-X. This is because there was a band in CAN named Bush
many moons ago.
Now, my question is; since Superior is a German band would that effect what
they're called in other countries? I know nothing about int'l law but I am
curious. As far as I'm concerned there's only *one Superior, and it ain't
a bunch of Brit-pop Beatle wannabees.
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:08:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Loren Caler <llc@sure.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Awake or I&W
Message-ID: <199703270708.XAA18097@sure.net>
This is in regards to the question of whether Awake or I&W had
better VOCAL content:
I think that Awake BLEW I&W away as far as JL's vocals. Two main examples
in this album are: Voices and TSM. I could listen to Voices all day! This
is (I feel), the most passionatley sung song that DT has. Also I think that
there is a TON of diversity in the vocals on this album, from the growlings
of Lie to the soft murmurs of SDV.
I agree with someone (name escapes me) that I&W is the instrumental album.
Obvious examples: MPt1, LtL. Though the vocals are exceptional here too, I
think JL progressed as a vocalist in Awake.
I-Van
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 08:41:56 +0100
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Superior
Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19970327074156.006cc28c@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!!
From: Ryan Webb <ryanwebb@earthlink.net>
Subject: Superior
>Maybe this is why Noise records won't distribute Superior's CD in the US??
>I don't know. It would be a shame if Superior's CD won't be released
>because of some brit pop band using the same name.....
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you very much for this info, Ryan!!!
I guess they will have a serious problem soon... hopefully. :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:50:18 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Wanting to order CDs
Message-ID: <199703270802.AAA09078@odin.ax.com>
HEya chums. :)
I'm looking for a good place to buy a couple of imports.
Specifically Angels Cry (Angra) and the Damnation Game (Symphony X).
I know this is impossibe, but I'm looking for a place that's
inexpensive and quick. I just checked out cdeurope and the cheapest
Angels Cry is $45. :( I was thinking around $20. Symph X's was an
OKey price though.
Please lemme kmnow through private mail. What was that one people
were ordering Superior from a whjile back? Impulse or something?
Thanks alot!
KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net
http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html
Disclaimer:
The content expressed in the previous document is
not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated
of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is
advised.
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:08:56 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NDTC-Night Ranger Misinformation
Message-ID: <199703270808.AAA00205@ms.kallback.com>
>> So when band members leave and are replaced by others and then the
original
>> members get back together again for whatever reason, what do they tell
the
>> replacment guys? "Sorry, we have to let you go because we'll make more
>> money with the original members."? Do they pay them off?
>> What if they were in the band a long time like the guys in KISS? I'm sure
>> they had some kind of contract.
----------
>Before you get off on a KISS-dicked-over-Bruce-and-Eric rampage, Night
>Ranger didn't have any replacement guys. When they reformed to record the
>fairly decent (first three songs are incredible) album "Feedin' Off The
>Mojo," they did it AS A TRIO, meaning it was the original members, but
>w/o Jack Blades and the keyboardist (whose name escapes me now).
>Therefore, this new album that the orginial poster was referring to was
>made without the firing of anyone.
>Richie
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I'm not on any kind of rampage.
I don't know what happened in KISS, that's why I asked.
However, I do know that your Night Ranger info needs correcting. For thier
first 4 albums (Dawn Patrol, Midnight Madness, Seven Wishes, Big Life) the
line-up was
Jack Blades-Bass, Lead Vocals
Brad Gillis-Guitars
Kelly Keagy-Drums, Lead Vocals
Jeff Watson-Guitars
Alan "Fitz" Gerald-Keyboards
On the next album (Man in Motion) the keyboard player was gone, resulting in
a more guitar oriented album. They did, however, have a keyboardist on tour
to play the older songs. Jack Blades joined Damn Yankees with Tommy Shaw of
Styx and Ted Nugent. They released two albums, then Jack and Tommy made one
called Shaw/Blades. Brad Gillis made Gilrock Ranch and Jeff Watson made Lone
Ranger.
Then Brad and Kelly got Gary Moon (from?) to play bass and sing on Feeding
Off the Mojo.
So there you have it. I'm looking foward to hearing the new stuff.
Later
Trevor
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:13:44 -0800
From: trevorw@ms.kallback.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: RE: Wanting to order CDs
Message-ID: <199703270813.AAA00189@ms.kallback.com>
>I'm looking for a good place to buy a couple of imports.
>Specifically Angels Cry (Angra) and the Damnation Game (Symphony X).
----------
Try Dream Disc for Angra.
Good luck with Syp X. I've had it on order from two places for over 6 weeks.
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:11:07 +0200
From: Olli-Pekka Komonen <opk@hlti.fi>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Look what I got from Santa... errr the mailman I mean...
Message-ID: <199703270911.LAA18683@hlti.fi>
When I got home yesterday, there was a *very* pleasent surprise. A new
Stratovarius 5-track EP!!!!!
I got it from a competition, and they say it will never be widely available,
am i lucky or what!!
The track listing is as follows:
1. Kiss Of Judas
2. Black Diamond
3. Kiss Of Judas (demo version)
4. Uncertainity (Live version)
5. Fourth reich (Live version)
Oooohhh It is *so* cool... I'll post a review, when I've given it a few
spins more.
Also heard an Angra song yesterday, I heard it on Finnish radio's only
metal program, Metal Union, but I was
totally concentrated on other things (ok, my gf) and heard only when the DJ
said "...aand that was Angra form Brazil..." could've kicked myself in the
head. But the bit I heard sounded like Queen to me. (no flaming, just my
opinion)
-OPK
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 05:03:25 -0500
From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2390
Message-ID: <v01530500af5ff30ad277@[207.79.6.169]>
>in other business, will someone please tell me when and why gen-x ended?
>i'm sick of being called a generation xer when i'm not, but i forgot why it
>is that i'm not.
Sympathize with ya. I've always hated this term. It's generic. It sounds
like the "authorities" couldn't come up with anything. What the Hell does X
stand for? Couldn't ANY generation be called "X"? What the heck did I do to
become an X, dammit! As for when this ended, have no idea. What generation
are we in now, "Generation 101"? Sorry I'm off subject, but this topic has
irked me for years.
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Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 03:15:26 -0700
From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Generation X.
Message-ID: <199703271015.DAA80850@lucia.u.arizona.edu>
>in other business, will someone please tell me when and why gen-x ended?
>i'm sick of being called a generation xer when i'm not, but i forgot why it
>is that i'm not.
I believe that (and I could very well be wrong) Generation X refers
to the Roman Numeral X, meaning 10. If a generation is considered to be 20
years, then 1976 would be the tenth Generation since the American
Declaration of Independence from England. I guess that would mean that if
you were born sometime between 1956 to 1976, then you're a Gen-Xer. Maybe
it's 1966-1986. I dunno, I don't care. Jus' my $.02.
..back to the English paper :(
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
If you're a heshian, headbangin' metalhead,
check out: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl
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