YTSEJAM Digest 2401
Today's Topics:
1) Winter Rose official release
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
2) Re: Story Albums
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
3) Heavens Gate
by Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
4) Re: I'm moving to Germany damnit!!!!!
by breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
5) Hole In The Sky
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
6) misheard DT lyrics/Story Albums
by "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com>
7) Rush on VH1!!!
by DreamNDay@dreamt.org
8) Interesting Vision
by ladyheather@juno.com (Heather J Powers)
9) Story Albums
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
10) james's unsatisfied lust
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
11) concept discs
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
12) Re: Story Albums
by "Derrick S Collins" <derrick@cycor.ca>
13) Dumb Americans
by ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu>
14) Re: QR album
by RubyRube@aol.com
15) CD for sale
by JF Cote <COTE@medcor.mcgill.ca>
16) Gary is What?
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
17) QR's PL tour
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
18) Re: Dumbest lyrics
by jandrade@chi.icanet.net.mx (Jaime Andrade)
19) Re: james's unsatisfied lust
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
20) Re: A Point
by Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com>
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:06:18 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Winter Rose official release
Message-ID: <199703291406.XAA02914@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp>
Greetings! 'Jammers.
I bought JLB's previous band---Winter Rose--- official album today. It's
nice one. He sings very cheesy song with his high-tone voice. like
"Dianna.........Will I hold you in my arms again? Diana What am I gonna do?
I wanna make love to you." What do you think about this? Yeah, He's great,
man. I don't know whether this album will be available outside Japan, but
worth checking. This one remeinds me of good 80s. I can't believe the fact
they couldn't deal with major label several years ago.
Winter Rose (1989)
1. Asylum City
2. I'll never fall in love again
3. Rough Boys
4. Dianna
5. One last time
6. Never let me go
7. My time
8. Nothing but the best
9. Saved by love
10. Thrill of the night
-Keiji Nishihara
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:31:38 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Story Albums
Message-ID: <199703291431.XAA03279@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp>
At 11:50 AM 97.3.28 -0800, Chris White wrote:
> Hey everyone, I know awhile ago (a year maybe?), someone posted a list
>of concept albums. I was wondering if anyone still had that list, or could
>recommend some other great concept albums. I recently puchased Savatage's
>"Streets" and "Dead Winter Dead", and love them both, just as I do O:M.
>If anyone knows of any other bands with story-like albums that are really cool,
>please send me some mail. Thanks a lot!
Yeah! I love 'em,too! Sava rules!
Well,other concept album?
I think I don't need to mention about QR's "Operation:Mindcrime". Heavy
Metal verion of "Clockwork Orange" Don't you think that?
The second one is "The Crimson Idol" by W.A.S.P. The main instrument of
'tage's "Streets" was piano/key and that one on this album was guitar. The
theme of this album is the same with "Streets".
The 3rd offer is Viper's "Theater of Fate". Maybe you don't know about
Viper,so I'll tell you something about them. They're from Brazil. And main
songwriter/vox. was Andre Matos (now ANGRA). And this album is their 2nd
album (the last with Andre). The concept is the daily life on the streets
in Brazil. Very melodic one.
These 3 discs are worth getting. If you don't like 'em at all, I'll
apologize about that.
Later.
-Keiji Nishihara
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 23:50:03 +0900
From: Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Heavens Gate
Message-ID: <199703291450.XAA03469@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp>
It's me again!
Someone told about HG,so I'd like to say something about them.
THEY'RE CRAP! SAVE YOUR MONEY FOR SOMEONE ELSE!
They're just the lame Judas Priest. And their live performance was
terribly shit! Well,I got free tix for their forth coming show. Does
anybody want this?
Heavens Gate/Banana Hall,Osaka/4th Apr.1997
Btw,to someone bought new Whitesnake album,let me know about that. I heard
cupple songs from that album,but those songs are a bit
adult-oriented---Michael Bolton-ish,every each songs are AOR materials?
Later!
-Keiji Nishihara
Keiji.Nishihara@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp
tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:56:58 GMT
From: breitweg@fusebox.hanse.de (Jason T. Breitweg)
Subject: Re: I'm moving to Germany damnit!!!!!
Message-ID: <ub67ya691h.fsf@fusebox.hanse.de>
Hi All,
>> Just to make you jealous I'll list the bands that I will
>> probably see live within the next two months: Dream Theater,
>> Enchant, Angra, Eldritch, Threshold, Symphony X, Lemur Voice,
>> Fates Warning, Conception! :) :) :)
Carlo> shitshitshitshitshitshit!!!!! No one should be able to see
Carlo> these bands in such a short time frame. May all your CD
Carlo> covers develop those nasty cracks that just keep growing
Carlo> and grooowing :-)
Well lets see here. Ties is in Paris (hello Ties) and I am in
Hamburg. Let me try and make you more jealous with some concerts past
and future......
ManOwaR, Rough Silk, King Diamond, Mercyful Fate, Solitude Aeturnus,
Morgana Lefay, Scanner, AXXIS, Iced Earth, Nevermore, Jag Panzer,
Lions Share, Angra, DREAM THEATER!!!!!, Conception, Threshold,
Enchant, Psychotic Waltz, Rage, Virgin Steele, Superior, Grave Digger.....
Ok I don't want to tease people in America since I used to be one of
them that never got good concerts. And I had to move over here to get
all the great stuff!
Carlo> P.S. I'm STILL waiting for that damned HELLOWEEN tour that
Carlo> was supposed to hit the US..or was I dreaming 'bout that
Carlo> too....
Damn I should have asked the guys the other night. They were all at a
concert I went to. I am not a huge fan so I didn't try and talk to
them but I did recognize them (as did a shit load of other people in
the audience).
Jason
-- Jason Breitweg --> breitweg@amzeus.desy.de, jbreitwe@hep.physics.wisc.edu http://www-zeus.desy.de/~breitweg, http://lobelia.physics.wisc.edu/jbreitwe "The Gods Made Heavy Metal And It's Never Gonna Die!" - MANOWAR------------------------------
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 97 11:22 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Hole In The Sky Message-ID: <m0wB0u6-0008fwC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
Theres a hole in the sky...hole in the sky-y-y: Black Sabbath song covered by Overkill????
New CD's I got:
Paradise Lost- As I Die- I suppose this one belongs on the metal list. Nothing like the new Paradise Lost- a lot heavier with death metal vocals yet with it, is still the eerieness.
Metallica- King Nothing- Alls I wanted was the single and I love it. The only other songs I like on Load are Until It Sleeps and Ain't My Bitch. This is backed with a live version of Ain't My Bitch and it just goes to show, once bands are on tour, they don't change what they are going to say for that night. At the beginning, James is shouting, I wanna hear you guys scream..we don't give a shit. But they did the exact same thing at the Metallica concert I went and saw a few days ago and this was recorded in August of 1996. Ah, f..k, who cares
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Kevin Hammer" <tufif_de_siks@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: misheard DT lyrics/Story Albums Message-ID: <199703291627.IAA01436@f10.hotmail.com>
>>Don't forget... >> >>Moved by desire and fear.... >>Breaking delicate wind... > >This too... > >"Finally let it all go" = > "Fondling little girls" > >Doubt me, fine. Go listen to 6:00 and then say you can't hear this. :) >oh yeah, and... > >"This world is living in sodomy" > >heheh, I like this thread. Any others? ;)~ >
hehe, how 'bout "Wanting mortality, I mow the lawn"?
anyway,
With all this talk about story albums, I can't believe that nobody has mentioned two of my favorites...
1. |> | |\| |< |= |_ () '/ |) The Wall the story of little Pink growing up with asshole teachers and finally snapping while being fondled by a gruopie, man ya gotta love it.
2. The \/\/ |-| () Tommy That deaf dumb and blind boy sure plays mean pinball. Incest, cult groups, murder, prostitution, and they even put it on broadway.
well, that's all for now kevin hammer
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:59:53 -0800 From: DreamNDay@dreamt.org To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush on VH1!!! Message-ID: <333D74B9.4FD9@dreamt.org>
No DTC here, just a quick odd note: On Saturday March 28 at 11:56 A.M. VH1 Played Tom Sawyer!!! I know it's not LVS or anything but at least it's something!
BTW, could someone send me the tracklist for Hear In The Now Frontier? thanks Brian
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:05:36 -0500 From: ladyheather@juno.com (Heather J Powers) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Interesting Vision Message-ID: <19970329.120537.23502.2.ladyheather@juno.com>
Yesterday, while showing an out of town musician the 48th street music stores, I happened to wander into Manny's Music(or was it one of the Sam Ashes,,,,awe who cares) and what did I see?!?!?!??!?! Billy Corgan sitting on a drum case staring at the little tiny TV screen watching the Portnoy lesson video. Perhaps he's taking up prog drums;) LOL....it amused me.
-Lady Dragon
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 10:23:48 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Story Albums Message-ID: <199703291735.JAA05765@odin.ax.com>
> 1. |> | |\| |< |= |_ () '/ |) The Wall > the story of little Pink growing up with asshole teachers and finally > snapping while being fondled by a gruopie, man ya gotta love it.
That about sums it up. :)
Here's another one:
Marillion: Brave. About a girl who simply chooses to say "Nothing." Very good and wonderfully melodic.
(I dunno if this one counts) Extreme: III Sides to Every story. It is divided into three main parts and each part represents a persons attitude toward life. I've always thought of it as a concept album. Doesn't really tell me a story, but I can't really explain it otherwise. Whether or not it's a concept album, get it anyway, it really rules. Good guitar, pianos, violins, cello solos, Gary Cherone's majextic vox: it rules!
Later!
KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html Disclaimer: The content expressed in the previous document is not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:37:56 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: james's unsatisfied lust Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970329173756.00767ae4@mail.inlink.com>
from james's winter rose lyrics: >"Dianna.........Will I hold you in my arms again? Diana What am I gonna do? >I wanna make love to you."
LOL! Korg, this is your chancne!!
~Rip
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:43:13 -0600 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: concept discs Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970329174313.0086f4f4@mail.inlink.com>
chuck just mentioned brave, but i'll mention it again. IMO, the best concept album ever written and recorded. Another one though, that i dont think has been mentioned, is Iced Earth's The Dark Saga. I heard a few cuts from it, the only thing i'd like to see changed is vocals, they shoulda got pete steele of type o negative for it. but it still sounds pretty good. its based upon the Spawn comic series, so if you like senseless graphic violence and gore you may want to dig into it just a little more ;) ~Rip
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:32:10 -0330 From: "Derrick S Collins" <derrick@cycor.ca> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Story Albums Message-ID: <199703291811.OAA02923@bud.peinet.pe.ca>
> I recently puchased Savatage's >"Streets" and "Dead Winter Dead", and love them both, just as I do O:M. >If anyone knows of any other bands with story-like albums that are really cool, >please send me some mail. Thanks a lot!
My favorite story album is "The Graveyard" by King Diamond. I posted about it in Ytsejam 2386 so read that post for a more detailed review. :)
Derrick Collins
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:57:00 -0600 (CST) From: ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dumb Americans Message-ID: <9703291857.AA10844@mis.finchcms.edu>
> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:46:08 -0500 (EST) > From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com> > Subject: Dumb Americans, intelligent Canadians > Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9703281840.E9338-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> > > > From: Peter Geerts <peter@wina.student.kuleuven.ac.be> > > Subject: Re: Lemur Voice > > > > Yeah, well, this is a Dutch band, and since I live in Belgium (for > > the American audience: Belgium is quite near Holland) it was quite easy to > > Why do Europeans think we Americans are so dumb?
YEAH!!!!! By the way, where is Holland? :) (Like it's some freaking huge landmark!) America is known for its doctors :), scientists, space program,(DREAM THEATER!), etc. and they are known for their....waffles? I guess we are the dumb ones. Later. Its.
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:10:22 -0500 (EST) From: RubyRube@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: QR album Message-ID: <970329141021_2046907177@emout12.mail.aol.com>
I just bought HITNF and I think that its definitely not the most capturing music....but it does not suck. I wish the vocals weren't so redundant and I also wish the songs were a bit longer and more diverse.....Overall, its decent. And as my last point......................................................................... ......................................................................I AM ABSOLUTELY DYING FOR THE NEW DT ALBUM TO BE RELEASED..........PLEASE GOD LET THEM SETTLE THEIR SHIT WITH THE RECORD CO. OR WHATEVER..........till next time. RubyRube (ADAM)
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: JF Cote <COTE@medcor.mcgill.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: CD for sale Message-ID: <01IH2SZ1KFAA9ANPN5@medcor.mcgill.ca>
Hello,
I have a few CD I would like to sell or trade:
Acoustic dreams (30$) When dream and today unite (30$)
Galactic cowboys-Galactic Cowboys (5$) Galactic Cowboys-Space in your face (8$) Galactic Cowboys-Machine fish (8$)
Ivanhoe Symbols of time (8$) Magellan Impending assension (10$)
If you would like to trade, I am looking for Enchant Wounded, Superior and Shadow Gallery's first CD. If your interested, e-mail me privately
Jean-Francois Cote (cote@medcor.mcgill.ca) Mcgill University Montreal,Canada
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:21:06 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Gary is What? Message-ID: <199703291921.OAA31739@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
This came from the Van Halen list. Maybe Charlie Dominici isn't doing much and he can take over.
>Pat Martin, a DJ here in Sacramento on 93 Rock who is normally pretty >reliable, said today his industry contacts said there's a strong rumor that >Gary Cherone is out as VH's lead singer. Martin said the band listened back >to the tapes and Cherone "wasn't cutting the mustard." He said to expect >official word soon, while at the same time stressing it was just a rumor.
It's just my opinion, but might it be true that Gary Cerone is just too good for VH? His vocal strength is definately much better than Sammy's and Dave's. Just my opinion. Later, J
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:38:57 EST From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: QR's PL tour Message-ID: <19970329.113955.3662.3.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
Whilst I was waiting for Rush tix (which I got 15th row for) I talked to a guy who went to QR at San Jose (the one that was on the radio) and he said out of the 16,000 seats that were available only 4,000 people showed up! They were going to cancel the show but since it was set for a live broadcast they played anyway.
So finally an example where radio actually was good for a band.
Any ACCEPT fans out there? I was at a cd store and got a used copy of "Staying A Life." It was recorded in Japan in 1985 but didn't get released until 1990. If you don't have any Accept albums and wanted one to get this would be it. It's got a lot of the classic Accept tunes and it's live.
Scott
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:04:11 -0800 From: jandrade@chi.icanet.net.mx (Jaime Andrade) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dumbest lyrics Message-ID: <199703292204.OAA00211@chi.icanet.net.mx>
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 17:39:02 GMT >From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) >To: ytsejam@ax.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) >Subject: Dumbest lyrics >Message-ID: <M.032897.183902.24@wxs2-16.worldaccess.nl> > > You guys don't have a clue. The dumbest lyrics in the universe could never >have been written by anyone else but someone who's one of the world's best >guitar players, who simply momentarily forgot that he isn't a good lyricist. > > "There's a hole in the sky > But don't ask me why > 'Cause I do-ho-ho-hon't know..." > > Still, he also penned down the rather better next line: > > "You broke my heart just to see > How many pieces there would be..." > > Anyone care to guess who I mean?
Hehehe, that was Yngwie J. Malmsteen. Maybe some Europeans who speak English as a second language tend to write dumb lyrics (of course, not all of them), for example read the lyrics from Accept or Scorpions, in some way, the lyrics are dumb (I have to admit that I like the music).
And what about this:
"I'm your Turbo Lover Tell me there's no other I'm your Turbo Lover Better run for cover"
They're Bitish, but does this should lead us to a turbo-orgasm?.
Jaime Andrade Esse Quam Videre
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:08:13 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: james's unsatisfied lust Message-ID: <199703292120.NAA07357@odin.ax.com>
> from james's winter rose lyrics: > >"Dianna.........Will I hold you in my arms again? Diana What am I gonna do? > >I wanna make love to you." > > LOL! Korg, this is your chancne!! >
Oh, man, oh, man... Do think think James might be a bit unsatisfied with his marriage? :)
LOL! KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html Disclaimer: The content expressed in the previous document is not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:54:06 -0500 (EST) From: Damon Fibraio <damon@shell.monmouth.com> To: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> Subject: Re: A Point Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970329185331.18921A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>
As far as the Yes lyrics from Love Will Find a Way, I eat at Che Nous, or what ever it is. I think Trevor Raben wrote that song, not John Anderson. I could be wrong, though.
Damon Fibraio Reach me at damon@shell.monmouth.com keyboardist, vocalist, radio personality professional dumb-ass "you can feel the waves coming on Let them destroy you or carry you on. You're fighting the weight of the world and no one can save you this time Close your eyes, you'll find all you need in your mind."--Dream Theater, Take the Time
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