YTSEJAM Digest 2400
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Story Albums
by Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
2) Dumb Americans, intelligent Canadians
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
3) Favorite lyrix
by eckie@asu.edu
4) Yngwiejam
by ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu>
5) Re: More IRC Musings
by alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu>
6) Queensryche/Motley Crue
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
7) Re: Dumbest lyrics
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
8) A Few More Things
by Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com>
9) Myung vid.
by Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU>
10) Re: Favorite lyrix
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
11) Acoustic Dreams
by Justin Hartmann <hartmann@MO.NET>
12) Re: Favorite lyrix
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu>
13) Re: Acoustic Dreams
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
14) Queensryche
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
15) Thanx and other things
by Longshot@upn20email.com
16) VH needs a new singer?
by Mamalookabubuday <skooc@earthlink.net>
17) oh yeah, and I forgot.....
by spOOL <skooc@earthlink.net>
18) Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by rsterry@idirect.com (Rick Terry)
19) PROGFEST 97
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:20:23 +0000
From: Walter Semerenko <walter@orlinter.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Story Albums
Message-ID: <B0000063236@chicago.orlinter.com>
At 11:50 AM 3/28/97 -0800, you wrote:
> I recently puchased Savatage's
>"Streets" and "Dead Winter Dead", and love them both, just as I do O:M.
>If anyone knows of any other bands with story-like albums that are really cool,
>please send me some mail. Thanks a lot!
Two great story albums are:
Ayreon _The Final Experiment_ which is about earth's demise in the year
2064AD amd computer program used to transmit the visions on the 6th
century seer, Ayreon, to warn the people of its desctruction. (I may
have the story a little off because I don't have the liner notes on
hand.) If you like Savatage's DWD, then you will prob. like this one.
The production on this CD is on a grand scale, several vocalists,
background female vocals, guest musicians (brass, flutes) on some songs,
excellent use of moogs (distorted and melodic), some organ, some slower
songs. A lot of the songs have a neo-classical melody to it while avoiding
that rehashed 80' neo-metal sound.
Saga _Generation 13_
I don't know offhand what the story is about, but this one is more prog rock
but with some crunching metal chords. Several songs has an philharmonic
orchestra playing on it, and it is great to hear bone-crunching guitar with
a orchestra following it. I just got this disc, and so far it may be just a
notch above Ayreon. More comments later. I can't believe that I avoided
this one for so long. The previous Saga albums sound nothing like the new,
and I expected the new one not to sound all that great.
Walter.
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:46:08 -0500 (EST)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: "Ytse Fuckin' Jam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dumb Americans, intelligent Canadians
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9703281840.E9338-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Peter Geerts <peter@wina.student.kuleuven.ac.be>
> Subject: Re: Lemur Voice
>
> Yeah, well, this is a Dutch band, and since I live in Belgium (for
> the American audience: Belgium is quite near Holland) it was quite easy to
Why do Europeans think we Americans are so dumb?
----> From: Adam Barnhart <adamb@cfmc.com> > Subject: A Point > > Neil Peart is my favorite lyricist, Rush is my favorite band, "Distant Early > Warning" is one of my ten or so favorite songs in the history of history. > But I'm wondering about this one: "We need someone to talk to/And someone to > sweep the floors." Sweep the floors? He needs a housekeeper? What? In > the midst of this wonderful set of lyrics, that take up a grave > socio-political issues using diction that's along the lines of a love song, > he breaks off this line. To this day, I'm confused....
You know I *had* to jump in here. :) Basically, what Neil means, is that there have to be classes in society. "We need someone to talk to" means we need that primary-level interaction with friends and loved ones. "And someone to sweep the floors" means that there have to be secondary relationships as well, with the people that work for/around us.
Taken a slightly different way, we need to feel equal with some people, and above others. At least that's my interpretation.
Absalom, absalom.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary & Webmaster cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 19:08:16 -0700 (MST) From: eckie@asu.edu To: Ytsejam Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Favorite lyrix Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970328190330.20634A-100000@general3.asu.edu>
My favorite lines would have to be,
I've fucked this, And I've fucked that! I've even fucked a school girl's twat! SO WHAT!
-From a punk band, covered by a METAL band many of us know 'n luv
oh yeah,
They took pictures of her chest!
I won't let them feel my elastic rubber naaads!
Death is the first dancing turtle...
-From a band we ALL know and love, but can't seem to get a new album out for the life of 'em
..And everybody knows, That the world is full of stuuuupid people.
-From a MAINSTREAM band many many many people despise
That's why I say, "Hey man, nice shot."
~Eckie eckie eckie ptang swip ZOOM boing
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:12:47 -0600 (CST) From: ITCHAK SCHWARZBARD <is01133@mis.finchcms.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Yngwiejam Message-ID: <9703290212.AA25217@mis.finchcms.edu>
> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 17:39:02 GMT > From: cronos@worldaccess.nl (Richard Karsmakers) > Subject: Dumbest lyrics > > You guys don't have a clue. The dumbest lyrics in the universe could never > have been written by anyone else but someone who's one of the world's best > guitar players, who simply momentarily forgot that he isn't a good lyricist. > > "You broke my heart just to see > How many pieces there would be..." > > Anyone care to guess who I mean?
How could you lee-eeeave maaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!! (followed by light-speed descending harmonic minor run...)
P.S. If you want to hear the harmonic minor keys used tastefully (not the same old run over and over again), pick up anything by Paco de Lucia.
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 20:57:55 -0600 (CST) From: alex fraser <fraser@stolaf.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: More IRC Musings Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970328205324.22136A-100000@lars.acc.stolaf.edu>
death to my parents' provider... it only took me about 30 tries to get a stable connection... :( i know htis is horribly non-DTC, but i guess there hasn't been too much of that in the recent past anyway...
On Fri, 28 Mar 1997, Mark Smeets wrote:
> It's interesting to walk into a conversation on irc, you never > really know what's going on...Daz said he could take > it...little did the rest know :) Enjoy! > > <Rick> Howdy Stranger! > <id> oh go drink a pineapple already... :) > <U-dAZ> Rick : i'm gonna spank you when i get over ;) > <U-dAZ> okay i'm off > <Stranger0> thats a nice greeting daz...thats going to the jam > you realize > <id> somehow i think pineapple lingerie would be more > appropriate for you rick > <Rick> It couldn't look any more stupid than what he made me > wearthe last time, I wonder what Daz has picked out for me > now, what did he make you wear last time id? > <id> it could look more stupid than me in a skirt...
now i don't mind getting logged (in the IRC sense, mind you) but at least have the decency to not edit the logs at your own whim, stranger0...
and besides, i look damn good in a skirt (it's an ultimate frisbee thing.) there might even be some web pics up soon for all you freaks out there... :P
well, enough of this blather... DTC - i'm listening to LatM right now... id
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 23:18 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Queensryche/Motley Crue Message-ID: <m0wApaj-0000HJC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
As for the new Queensryche, alls I can say "is this all cuz its not what I expected..."
As for Motley Crue, I was being sarcastic...not bitching, just letting you know. About the sellout bands, I was just stating what is said so much by ex-fans of bands. For example, people who hate the new Metallica, etc. Motley Crues self titled disc was my absolute favorite one..it conveyed power. Hope that clears everything up. mcauburn@iinc.com
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:09:21 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dumbest lyrics Message-ID: <199703290421.UAA01809@odin.ax.com>
> "There's a hole in the sky > But don't ask me why > 'Cause I do-ho-ho-hon't know..."
Santa?
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 23:26 EST From: Soul Madness <mcauburn@iinc.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: A Few More Things Message-ID: <m0wApif-0006WGC@xcalibur.iinc.com>
The new Dream Theater is going to be like nothing we expected...hmm, please tell me they don't go alternative or worse yet, rap? Yeah, Dream Theater rapping...interesting concept. I just hope it still rocks!!
To be fair to Queensryche, after a couple listens, I love a couple songs on it..right now, my favorites being Saved and the one with Chris singing, All I Want. Its all okay but still...like i said 5 min. ago, is this all because its not what I expected. For those who trash Promised Land, get with it, that one is an awesome album, go back and listen to I Am I, Promised Land, Dis Con Nec Ted, Lady Jane, One More Time and Someone Else! I love that whole entire album
Warrior Soul Homepage (now featuring a Whats New section, a review with more to come, liner notes, lyrics, and info on rare CD singles)
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/5784/
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:31:21 -0700 (MST) From: Fernando Ma <fernandm@U.Arizona.EDU> To: ytsejam list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Myung vid. Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.970328213043.20400A-100000@aruba.u.arizona.edu>
Anyone know of a place (online or otherwise) where I can order the Myung vid?
Fernando Ma Materials science & engineering University of Arizona http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
"I could sail by on the Winds of Silence, and maybe they won't notice. But this time I think it'd be better if I swim." - The Silent Man
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:24:28 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Favorite lyrix Message-ID: <199703290447.UAA01971@odin.ax.com>
> oh yeah, > > They took pictures of her chest! > > I won't let them feel my elastic rubber naaads! > > Death is the first dancing turtle...
Don't forget...
Moved by desire and fear.... Breaking delicate wind...
I've always loved that one. :) I swear that's how I first heard it. KorgX3 a.k.a. ibanez@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~ibanez/index.html Disclaimer: The content expressed in the previous document is not the opinion of the author. The author is exonerated of anything written therein. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:00:54 -0600 From: Justin Hartmann <hartmann@MO.NET> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Acoustic Dreams Message-ID: <333CB014.30A5@mvp.net>
Hi, I was wondering if anybody could give me some information on the DT boot, ACOUSTIC DREAMS. If anyone could tell me how to order or dub me a copy it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Justin Hartmann hartmann@mvp.net
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 23:09:30 -0700 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@u.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Favorite lyrix Message-ID: <199703290609.XAA64764@kitts.u.arizona.edu>
>Don't forget... > >Moved by desire and fear.... >Breaking delicate wind...
This too...
"Finally let it all go" = "Fondling little girls"
Doubt me, fine. Go listen to 6:00 and then say you can't hear this. :) oh yeah, and...
"This world is living in sodomy"
heheh, I like this thread. Any others? ;)~
Peace be with you and God bless, ~Vince
If you're a heshian, headbangin' metalhead, check out: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~vgl
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 01:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Acoustic Dreams Message-ID: <199703290618.BAA10313@cliff.cris.com>
At 10:11 PM 3/28/97 -0800, you wrote: >Hi, > I was wondering if anybody could give me some information on the >DT >boot, ACOUSTIC DREAMS. If anyone could tell me how to order or dub me a >copy it would be greatly appreciated.
That would be James Colberg who makes CDR clones of this classic and out-of-print disc. He's at JamesArin@aol.com . I got mine from him, so you know.
-Rick
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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 23:32:30 -0700 From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net> To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Queensryche Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970328233220.0069748c@onfire.net>
Just got back from a class trip last night and went out to get the new QR CD today (Sorry I missed the big rush of reviews, but I think I have something that somoeone might be interested in to say). I listened to it in the car on the way back from doing some research for a paper at the ASU library, just listening to 30 sec. to 1 min. of each track, and I must I really didnt like it at all, except for a few songs. But when I got home I turned it on while I was reading the new Metal Edge, and I must say I like it. its very textural, moody sounding stuff. I really dont think its AT ALL very heavy and up-front sounding like people have written. Is probably the most quiet and least abrassive/aggressive mix Ive ever heard. It is totally the kind of music that I like in the background, but I couldnt get into it if I was just listening to the music and doing nothing. And the strange part is that I cant figure out wether thats a good thing or a bad thing.. most of my favorite CDs like Images and Words, Mahavishnu's "Birds of Fire," and Moving Pictures (oops.. top 3 list.. BAD!!! FORBIDDEN!!! EVIL!!!) I can listen to either way and totally enjoy them, and the same goes for most of the other stuff I listen to, which is mostly prog, fusion/jazz, and metal. Anyways.. I was just wondering if anyone else shared my view of HITNF. It'd make great elavator music.. or maybe in a grocery store..
Mark ############################################################ Deep RUSH Thoughts:
Sometimes I lie awake at night thinking about those greedy Oaks. Those damn greedy Oaks! Oh, the inhumanity!
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Date: 29 Mar 1997 03:07:48 PDT From: Longshot@upn20email.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thanx and other things Message-ID: <199703290806.AAA03250@odin.ax.com>
First of all, I would like to thank the people on the list for Mike Bahr's current status. (even though I wished he had posted that update on Lifting Shadows so that I knew. That page hasn't been updated since January!)
I have the new QR album. Not bad. It didn't excite me on first listen. Then again, QR doesn't excite me that much anymore. This album came out of left field. I wasn't expecting a new album. A couple of comments: Who is singing on All I Want? It doesn't sound like GT. (I can see the reference to Saigon Kick in that song.) Also, isn't Get a life one of the worst songs? That chorus is like fingernails on a chalkboard! Some people fly and You sound pretty cool.
I checked out Brian Wherry's page. I bet he listens to a lot of DT. :^) He's a little raw, but he has obvious talent. It is a wonder that he isn't in a band. I will not post his URL because a million people before me already have.
As far as the people who want the "Fix" shows, I can understand why people want to hear it. Most of us haven't heard any new music from the band since they released "Awake". That was released in 1994. It has been three years. I think this would all be solved if the band would throw us some bones. A song or two. It isn't like they are going to miss it. I will respect their wishes, but I have no idea when they are going to release a new album and I am waiting with bated breath for new material. One song would satisfy me.
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music "The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity." longshot@upn20Email.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: Mamalookabubuday <skooc@earthlink.net> To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: VH needs a new singer? Message-ID: <199703290809.AAA03584@germany.it.earthlink.net>
This came from the Van Halen list. Maybe Charlie Dominici isn't doing much and he can take over.
>Pat Martin, a DJ here in Sacramento on 93 Rock who is normally pretty >reliable, said today his industry contacts said there's a strong rumor that >Gary Cherone is out as VH's lead singer. Martin said the band listened back >to the tapes and Cherone "wasn't cutting the mustard." He said to expect >official word soon, while at the same time stressing it was just a rumor. *************************************************************************** Kill Kill Kill..... the White Man; Kill him until he is dead. Kill Kill Kill the White Man. Thank you.
Howard Stern as Mamalookaboobooday Detroit's first black traffic reporter ***************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:14:02 -0800 (PST) From: spOOL <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: oh yeah, and I forgot..... Message-ID: <199703290814.AAA04913@germany.it.earthlink.net>
I've got a new email address! If you feel like bitching at me privately instead of the Jam you may now do this at <Mamalookabubuday@Juno.com>
Also, I got this cute little joke from another mailing list, I hope some of you enjoy this. After all the QR bashing and grunge bashing and flaming that's been happening I think we could use a laugh.
>To quote a famous story, a guy is giving a speech about aids, and he >addresss the audience with the words: "To avoid infection, one should >always use a condom when..um..copulating" and an elderly woman stands up >and says "Please, if the chair means 'Fucking' can he please SAY >'fucking'?" to which the embarrassed chair then says "hmm..sorry. .to avoid >infection, one should always fucking well use a condom when copulating"
:)
PS. Rush tix at Shoreline May 11 go on sale Saturday morning!!!!
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:37:31 GMT From: rsterry@idirect.com (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Oh My God!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <333cd2e1.43208728@mail.idirect.com>
Boo!
>Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:41:25 PST >From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
><Rick> BRB >*** Rick is now known as Rickaway ><U-dAZ> Rick : i'm gonna spank you when i get over ;) ><BatGrrrl> nite giant hazlenut :) ><Stranger0> hi id, derrick, NM, ryan, rachel, Daz ><BatGrrrl> lol ><U-dAZ> haha! ><ryan> hey stranger ><id> yo strangah ><U-dAZ> okay i'm off=20 ><Stranger0> thats a nice greeting daz...thats going to the jam =20 >you realize ><id> somehow i think pineapple lingerie would be more > appropriate for you rick ><Rick> It couldn't look any more stupid than what he made me =20 >wearthe last time, I wonder what Daz has picked out for me =20 >now, what did he make you wear last time id? ><id> it could look more stupid than me in a skirt... ><U-dAZ> take care you all :)
Well, I'll be retiring to that island next to the one Marlon Brando stores his Oreos on now. Funny thing is that I don't even remember that last line as being mine. I guess my propensity for dementia has exceeded my long term memory capacity. :)
PS: DethThret says SEE YA! (In Hell)
Insert large pointy toothed grin here.
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 04:58:39 -0800 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PROGFEST 97 Message-ID: <199703291258.EAA25680@gms.gmsnet.com>
Who's going to Progfest 97?
I'll be there! So will Spock's Beard!!! Be there... in Los Angeles!
For more details, follow the link from my page in the URL below...
-The Doc
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