YTSEJAM Digest 2531
Today's Topics:
1) a few things
by alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2528,Metropolis debate
by GnRBrks@aol.com
3) Kevin Smith and Fates (belated)
by Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
4)
by jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2529
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
6) Re:
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2529
by Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
8) HELp!
by Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
9) Lifting Shadows Off A Ring
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
10) Long Island Ytse DrunkFest :)
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
11) QR opening act
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
12) HELLOWEEN High Live vid
by Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu>
13) Re: QR opening act
by mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
14) DT on senior recital
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
15) DT on senior recital
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
16) Subconscious CDR (clone) for sale
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
17) FW: APSoG Lyric File finished (NDTC)
by "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net>
18) T-Shirt Orders [IMPORTANT STUFF]
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2529
by "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
20) YTSEJAM digest 2524
by <09422587@mail3.dlsu.edu.ph>
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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 22:25:24 -0300
From: alexis1@prtc.net (alexis1)
To: "ytsejam mailing list" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: a few things
Message-ID: <19970504032911.AAA38704@alexis1>
Hey people, I have a few questions and comments:
1) I was going through the Knights of the Round Table catalog yesterday
and I noticed that both Behind by Superior and APSOG had versions with one
extra song. Any info on how these songs are, if they really exist?
2) I bought the new Mighty Mighty Bosstones today. The music is really
cool, but I was disappointed that it only lasts about half an hour. It
doesn't feel really good to spend $17 for only half an hour of music.
Still, the music is good quality Bosstones.
3) I don't know if my last post made it to the jam, but, just in case, I
said that, now that there have been some recent DT shows in Europe, isn't
it very probable that there will be some new bootlegs coming out??????
Well, that's it. Peace carnales.
Alexis
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Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:09:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: GnRBrks@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2528,Metropolis debate
Message-ID: <970503230933_-1031265700@emout15.mail.aol.com>
I've read that a couple of you guys think said that the instrumental section
of Metropolis doesn't seem to belong.IMO you guys should rethink that,because
you didn't write it. MP said that it was a huge opertunity to delve into all
kinds of odd meters and polyrhythms. So,you know as well as I do that I&W
really established DT as a force in prog metal and they really needed that
kind of push in the album. The instrumental section DOES belong. Besides it
just wouldn't be the same without it.
Glen <GnRBrks@aol.com>
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 00:10:07 -0700
From: Jeremy Kube <j-kube@nh.ultranet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Kevin Smith and Fates (belated)
Message-ID: <336C364F.2D50@nh.ultranet.com>
I know, I know. I am like a week behind on all of this. Fates APSoG,
excellent. I enjoy all of it and Kevin Moore's playing is superb. I
wish and don't wish that he was still in Dream Theater.
Kevin Smith, he is the man. Chasing Amy is his best work yet. Not
only did he take his comedy to the extreme but he actually involved a
plot, a taboo plot at that. "Dogma" his next work, should prove to be
his best work yet. I can't wait. If you didn't see Clerks or Mallrats,
but saw Chasing Amy, you need to see the two films and pic out the
subtle humor that was transferred throughout the film. Other than that,
have a good one everyone, lata, J
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 00:35:01 -0400
From: jefffalk@bu.edu (Jeffrey Falk)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Message-ID: <v01540b00af91bfe85b24@[128.197.8.56]>
>Congrats to Mike & Marlene on the birth of Melody Portnoy.
Can this man have it any better? I wonder if he was ever as
unfortunate as I am.
>Awesome
>name, if you ask me.
I agree, but isn't it ironic (pardon the Alanis Morrishit
reference) that her father is a drummer? (That is not drummer bashing.)
>As for opening bands for Queensryche, why not have Type O Negative open.
How about because they suck (and their frontman even admits it)?
I'm glad it was still light enough during their set to see my _Promised
Land_ tourbook; Type O Negative was bor-ing.
>I saw Cheap Trick and STP play at
>Freedom Hall in Johnson City, TN, and they both rocked, hard.
Isn't there something wrong with Cheap Trick opening for Stone
Temple Pilots? Cheap Trick was around when Stone Temple Pilots were in
junior high. Unfortunately, this happens all the time, like when
Soundgarden opened for Guns N' Roses, King's X opened for Pearl Jam, etc.
To whom it may concern: I just found out that I'll be in the ninth
row when Rush plays in Camden, NJ on June 22. Hallelujah!!! (Praise be to
Lee, Lifeson and Peart)
I have good news: since I just subscribed to the Kiss list, I might
have less time to post to this one. (The bad news is I might not post to
the Kiss list or stay on it long.)
Jeff Falk
Box 3208
700 Commonwealth Avenue
Boston, Massachusetts 02215
(617) 352-8639
jefffalk@bu.edu
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 00:07:03 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2529
Message-ID: <19970504040657.AAA4849@mail.pananet.com>
>i have to COMPLETELY disagree with the reasoning. have you heard DTs latest
>stuff? have you heard Kevins latest stuff? the new dream theater is hardly
>metropolis esque, its getting more grungy, more heavy, and i think kevin saw
>this as awake got heavier and less prog than i&w, and figured he didnt want
>it, and while he was at it would go do his solo CD. he also did keys for
I personally think that kevin left simply because he wanted to do his own
stuff. Being in a band is like a marriage... always compromising, so if you
really want to make your own stuff, and make it sound how YOU want it to,
you have to go on your own. And his playing on the FW has nothing to do with
it... they're friends, he probably needed a gig, etc.... of course, only Kev
knows why he left. I'm just guessin'...
and on another point... DT's new stuff grungier ?!? It's definitely
heavier...and has a more groovy rock feel to it, but i don't hear any grunge
there. Of course, I have a hard time defining grunge anyways, because IMO it
was created by recording companies to make mucho dinero. It was more of an
image than a sound.
And as for them losing their proginess, I'll wait till I hear Met.II to
state an opinion:)
thankyouverymuch
Ernie
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 01:07:11 EDT
From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re:
Message-ID: <19970503.220829.8686.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
>Isn't there something wrong with Cheap Trick opening for Stone
>Temple Pilots? Cheap Trick was around when Stone Temple
>Pilots were in junior high.
This isn't really unusual, When I saw "Uncle" Ted Nugent in 1981,
Humble Pie opened up for him. Even though a good arguement
can be made for STP opening up for CT, but when I saw CT here
in Palo Alto in March, they played at a club with a 850 capacity &
it only sold out three days before the show, even though tix were
on sale only a month. STP is headlining 10,000 seat venues.
Scott
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 04:30:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anton Max <madmax@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2529
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95L.970504042717.15144A-100000@unix17.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Sat, 3 May 1997, Ernesto Schnack wrote:
>
> I personally think that kevin left simply because he wanted to do his own
> stuff. Being in a band is like a marriage... always compromising, so if you
> really want to make your own stuff, and make it sound how YOU want it to,
> you have to go on your own. And his playing on the FW has nothing to do with
> it... they're friends, he probably needed a gig, etc.... of course, only Kev
> knows why he left. I'm just guessin'...
>
Well, even though only kev knew why he left, he went *told* people
why he left, which is basically for the reasons you just cited. :)
-maximilian
Anton Max
MadMax+@cmu.edu
http://thunderdome.pc.cs.cmu.edu/aepithex.html
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 09:31:54 -0400
From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: HELp!
Message-ID: <336C8FCA.5E2C@caribe.net>
Hi.. i need to know if someone has pictures of DT live or promos from
the majesty or WDADU era... (not the wdadu liner nots please)
thanx
--"At the edge of chaos, unexpected outcomes occur. The risk to survival is severe." Ian Malcolm http://premium.caribe.net/~calfaro mailto:calfaro@caribe.net mailto:ytsekurt@geocities.com
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:11:24 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Lifting Shadows Off A Ring Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970504130842.23119B-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:25:31 -0400 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Long Island Ytse DrunkFest :) Message-ID: <199705041825.OAA11773@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hello All ....
Well, since next weekend is Mom's Day and D-Man and I love our moms we are gonna be home on Long Island. And since D and I haven't seen each other in a while, we are planning on going out for some (lots?) drinks on Saturday Night May 10th. And since D-Man and I are such wonderful guys (and we love meeting jammers ;) we would like to extend the invitation to all of you. So, if you live on LI (or close to it) and are up for doing something Saturday night with a bunch of Dream Theater freaks (or just plain old freaks ;) send me some email and I will send out more details later in the week.
Later! Skadz
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 11:24:38 PDT From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: QR opening act Message-ID: <199705041824.LAA08108@f36.hotmail.com>
What I think QR should do about the opening act on their tour(For that matter, what I think _every_ band should do for the opening act on their tours) is get a very cool band that no one has ever heard of. DM did that on their SoFaD tour when they came to Indy 3 years ago and had Stabbing Westward and Primal Scream open for them. That way, new bands get more exposure, and the established acts get exposed to new music and new influences.
Just my 2 cents.
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Conrad Chi <uchic00@mcl.ucsb.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: HELLOWEEN High Live vid Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.93.970504131158.8137D-100000@mcl.ucsb.edu>
To all the HELLOWEEN fans out there, I am looking for a copy of the High Live vid. I have a couple of things you might be interested in.
I am still looking for the SF Awake show. I know some of you have it out there, so help me out.
layba day Conrad
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 17:16:02 EDT From: mamalookabubuday@juno.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: QR opening act Message-ID: <19970504.141759.8678.1.Mamalookabubuday@juno.com>
On Sun, 4 May 1997 11:31:02 -0700 (PDT) "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> writes:
>What I think QR should do about the opening act on their tour >(For that matter, what I think _every_ band should do for the >opening act on their tours) is get a very cool band that no one >has ever heard of.
Actually, now that you mention it, the best opening band would be:
NO opening band!
Think about it; they already play for about 2:15 anyway, take out the opening band and add :30 to the QR set. They could do it like Rush and break it up into two sets if they wanted. I say this because *except* for the new album, the last record I liked was Mindcrime. This way, the bandwagon jumpers who only liked them for Empire could get their songs and maybe those of us who've been there since the ep was released in 1983 can get some of *our* faves too.
Scott
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 14:56:52 PDT From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on senior recital Message-ID: <199705042156.OAA26306@f21.hotmail.com>
One of the top bass players at our school this year just had his senior recital. His playlist was...
1.Nexus(Dave Holland) 2.All Blues(Miles Davis) 3.The Blackwidow Blues(Branford Marsalis) 4.Dear Old Stockholm
and for the finale...
EROTOMANIA!!!
There's just one problem.
He didn't play Erotomania by "Dream Theater."
He played Erotomania by "Dream Theatre."
Oh well. Nobody's perfect.
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
--------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 15:01:33 PDT From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DT on senior recital Message-ID: <199705042201.PAA25103@f10.hotmail.com>
One of the top bass players at our school this year just had his senior recital. His playlist was...
1.Nexus(Dave Holland) 2.All Blues(Miles Davis) 3.The Blackwidow Blues(Branford Marsalis) 4.Dear Old Stockholm
and for the finale...
EROTOMANIA!!!
There's just one problem.
He didn't play Erotomania by "Dream Theater."
He played Erotomania by "Dream Theatre."
Oh well. Nobody's perfect.
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame. Don't you see life's a game? So take hold of the flame. You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
--------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Subconscious CDR (clone) for sale Message-ID: <199705042238.SAA18345@mcfeely.concentric.net>
Hi folks,
I landed an original copy of Subconscious today (thanks Matt!!!) and no longer need my CDR version (James Colberg special), so I'd like to sell it for $15 ppd. The disc costs $25 new, and is a digital-to-digital replica (no signal loss due to D/A-A/D conversion) so it sounds exactly like the original, and has a nice cover and tray liner that is very similar to the original.
Email if interested. Thanks.
-Rick Audet
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:49:05 -0400 From: "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FW: APSoG Lyric File finished (NDTC) Message-ID: <199705042251.SAA25471@mail.quadnet.net>
I'm finally back on the internet after my move to Pennsylvania. It took a while, but I finally found a new ISP.
Anyway, for those of you who have downloaded Lauren's CD Player, there's now a lyric file for Fates Warning's A Pleasant Shade of Gray. If you haven't downloaded it yet, download a copy. It's freeware so you can use it as long as you want without shareware messages.
==================================== Lauren Glenn's home page at http://pw2.netcom.com/~l_glenn or http://pw1.netcom.com/~l_glenn ------------------------------- Featuring the newest version of Lauren's CD Player 0.93 (formally RQ's CD Player) which can show lyrics as the CD is being played.
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Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 20:02:24 -0400 From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: T-Shirt Orders [IMPORTANT STUFF] Message-ID: <199705050002.UAA17616@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey All ....
Just a bit of 411 for you :) I just spoke with a representative of DT who told me to let everyone know that if you ordered a T-shirt, there were some surplus problems and they should all be sent out in the next few weeks. If you have questions, have moved, or whatnot, you can send email to the t-shirt people at shirts@dreamt.org.
Later! Skadz
PS - I have nothing to do with the T-shirts, just set up the email address for a friend, so don't email me and ask questions.
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Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:28 +1000 From: "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2529 Message-ID: <B9A4E57E5F@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
>I think the reason Kevin left was he wanted to do more stuff like >Space Dye Vest and Tori amos type music. He went alternative.
So you're just guessing???
Space Dye Vest <==> Tori Amos ???
Nahhh.
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