YTSEJAM Digest 2540
Today's Topics:
1) DVDs
by Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2539
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
3) testing the new line
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2539
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
5) pan n' scan.
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
6) JUST A LAUGH
by Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net>
7) Spock's Beard gig
by King Of The Internet <skooc@earthlink.net>
8) DVD Explained - Lossy Compression
by drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh)
9) beta? :)
by "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org>
10) FREE Metallica Ticket!!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org>
11) New Enchant, Magellan and Winter Rose
by IdleMinds@aol.com
12) Re: FREE Metallica Ticket!!!
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
13) Re: FREE Metallica Ticket!!!
by Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br>
14) Re: Savatage, DVD (NDTC, NFWC, NMDC, NQRC, NMC, etc.)
by "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com>
15) Re: Rising Force Songbook
by Awake77@aol.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2539
by WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca>
17) new 7 string price
by WildKoba@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 16:30:01 -0400
From: Buck Stodgers <andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DVDs
Message-ID: <199705092029.AA11714@gateway.prudential.com>
Hello,
Scott wrote:
>Tell your roomate what I tell people about P & S. If you want P & S
>then watch the VHS. I figure if your a "Laser Snob" like I am
As of now all I have is VHS, but I insist on only buying leterboxed
editions. Those THX Widescreen editions of True Lies, The Abyss, etc.
were a Godsend! And Bridge on the River Kwai should ONLY be shown in
widescreen, same with Far And Away and Mission: Impossible and on and
on. NO movie should ever be subjected to Pan and Scan.
>So far the cheapest deck I could find for what I want (DVD/CD/LD)
>is $1,000.
Yep, those multi-disc players will kill your wallet! I only plan on
using it for DVD and CD though, and ALL DVD players are equipped to read
CDs.
>As far as DVD is concerned. It is already available to consumers in
>the US I believe. Good luck finding it.
Any electronics store should have them by now in the US. The demand is
incredible though, at least here in Jersey...
>Everything about it is still up in the air, which is why it
>hasn't come around full swing yet. The technology for this has been >around for decades,
Actually, the technology has only been around for the last four years.
There was a competition in the industry to decide whether two-sided or
double layered discs would be the standard, that's why it took so long
to get to the market. The industry wanted to avoid another VHS/Beta
problem.
>As far as I know- the audio end of the DVD (vs. the video market) has >not yet come up with a standard for the audio.
The record companies are not going to buy into DVD as long as DVD
players can play CDs. Why change gears when the technology isn't
obsolete?
>The spacing between data lines (the stripe-looking things on CDs)
Actually, they're called pits, but who wants to get technical...:)
>Quit sending me all this shit. I do not care. Leave me alone.
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me. If anyone wants to mail-bomb
this jerk mailto:<bpick@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> I doubt I'll be the
first.
Ozzfest anyone? heheheheh....
-- _____________________________________________________________ Andrew Forcier a.k.a. Buck Stodgers --List Manager-- The Peppermint Tribe, the Saigon Kick Mailing List For info, check out: http://garnet.acns.fsu.edu/~rfm5570/ for e-mail inquiries, mailto:andrew.t.forcier@prudential.com ************************************************************* To contact the New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority to protest the banning of OZZFEST particpant bands, write to: Hey, wait a minute! WE WON!!!!------------------------------
Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:43:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: Brian <bpick@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2539 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970509153820.16397C-100000@enteract.com>
> From: Brian <bpick@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> > Subject: QUIT! > Quit sending me all this shit. I do not care. Leave me alone.
You are the pudwhap that signed up. If you deleted your information about how to unsubscribe, you can ask nicely, or you can just fucking deal with it. It's an automated list. Saying "Quit sending me this shit" has little effect on it, but DEFINITELY tempts those of us with such powers to send you a HUGE damn e-mail bomb. Show some respect. - Chris
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 15:46:13 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: testing the new line Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970509204613.00742fd8@mail.inlink.com>
> I have rented DVD porn {snip}
YOU GO MIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! way to see if the new technology measures up!!
=) ~Rip
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:51:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2539 Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.95.970509154313.16397D-100000@enteract.com>
> From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu (Michael Washkevich) > Subject: compression (ndtc)
> I haven't written the jam in a while, but since people started talking about > audio, I chose to get involved. <Long and interesting post snipped> > Sorry for my rambling. > mike washkevich
Ah, you don't know what you're talking about. I've been recording on my Tascam Porta03 for almost 6 weeks now, and I've NEVER had to use my Boss Compression pedal. Anyone hear about this new video type called BETA? I hear it's supposed to be even BETTER than DVD!
(Resist the urge. Understand. Don't do it!) Actually, I find this thread exteremly interesting. Far more so than the flame wars and everything. :)
P.S. Some of these .sigs need some updating/modification/EXTREME SHORTENING! I know Freud would say that a long .sig is like an extention of the penis (just like the little bad asses in their new black Mustangs with plates like "TOO FAZT" or "TUF ENUF") but this is out of hand. If one more post is sealed with a kiss, I'm gonna start kicking some ass with that burning guitar. :)
- Chris
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 15:53:13 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: pan n' scan. Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970509205313.0075746c@mail.inlink.com>
> >As of now all I have is VHS, but I insist on only buying leterboxed >editions. Those THX Widescreen editions of True Lies, The Abyss, etc. >were a Godsend! And Bridge on the River Kwai should ONLY be shown in >widescreen, same with Far And Away and Mission: Impossible and on and >on. NO movie should ever be subjected to Pan and Scan.
i'm totally into widescreening too. pan and scan is annoying as shit. whats more annoying is i have parents that hate letterbox and only want P&S. its crazy, i remember a long ass time ago when last of the mohekans <sp> came out on video in 'box and my dad was all pissy about it. they're just mad cuz their full tv screen aint occupied :)
> >>Quit sending me all this shit. I do not care. Leave me alone. > >Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me.
YYYYYYYYEAH!! intherightlightstudybecomesinsightbutthesystemthatdissedusteachesustoreadand rightsocalledfactsarefraudtheywantustoalledgeandpledgeandbowdowntotheirgodlo sttheculturetheculturelostspunourmindsandthroughtimeignorancehastakenover... . YO, WE GOTTA TAKE DA POWER BACK.
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:04:44 -0700 From: Hector Crisantes <snyfarms@gateway.dakotacom.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com, Miguel Crisantes <118158@ef.ev.maricopa.edu>, Subject: JUST A LAUGH Message-ID: <3373916C.33D4@pop.dakotacom.net>
A new priest at his first mass was so nervous he could hardly speak.
After mass he asked the monsignor how he had done.
The monsignor replied, "When I am worried about getting nervous on the
pulpit, I put a glass of vodka next to the water glass. If I start to
get
nervous, I take a sip."
So next Sunday he took the monsignors advice. At the beginning of the
sermon, he got nervous and took a drink. He proceeded to talk up a
storm.
Upon his return to his office after mass, he found the following note on
the door:
1. Sip the Vodka, don't gulp.
2. There are 10 commandments, not 12.
3. There are 12 disciples, not 10.
4. Jesus was consecrated, not constipated.
5. Jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass.
6. We do not refer to Jesus Christ as the late J.C.
7. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not referred to as Daddy, Junior
and the Spook.
8. David slew Goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him.
9. When David was hit by a rock and knocked off his donkey, don't say he
was stoned off his ass.
10. We do not refer to the cross as the "Big T"
11. When Jesus broke the bread at the Last Supper he said, "Take this
and
eat it for it is my body." He did not say "Eat me."
12. The Virgin Mary is not called "Mary with the Cherry."
13. The recommended grace before a meal is not: Rub-A-Dub-Dub thanks for
the grub, yeah God.
14. Next Sunday there will be a taffy pulling contest at St. Peter's,
not
a peter pulling contest at St. Taffy's.
The origination of this letter is unknown, but it brings good luck to
everyone who passes it on. The one who breaks the chain will have bad
luck. Do not keep this letter. Do not send money. Just forward it to
five
of your
friends to whom you wish good luck. You will see that something good
happens to you four days from now if the chain is not broken. You will
receive good
luck in four days.
Sincerely,
DTFreak
Hector Crisantes
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:08:31 -0700 (PDT) From: King Of The Internet <skooc@earthlink.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Spock's Beard gig Message-ID: <199705092108.OAA20156@denmark.it.earthlink.net>
Hey Bay Area types!
he *big* show part one is Sat Night in Fremont. I called last night and the recording said that they open the doors at 8:00 pm. So, if anyone that's going would like to meet up early and get something to eat or get really fucking toasted or something give me an email and we'll arrange something. I'm really looking forward to meeting up with some jammers.
Scott
oh yeah, the *big* show part two is Rush Sunday night @ Shoreline.
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:26:23 -0700 From: drkhoe@gms.gmsnet.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: DVD Explained - Lossy Compression Message-ID: <199705092126.OAA26405@gms.gmsnet.com>
DVD currently uses MPEG 2 compression for digital video/audio. This format is better than ANY analog format including Laser Disc. MPEG 2 is a perceptual encoding method which means it is lossy compression based on reduced bit streams, not data compression. This is the biggest misconception, perceptual compression is not data compression but bit stream reduction.
MPEG 2 audio is NOT better than a CD. CD's are recorded in 44.1khz PCM method and are the standard bearer of full digital audio. MPEG Layer 3 audio compression is currently the best compressed digital audio method.
The format of DVD is whole other story...
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 16:30:51 -0500 From: "Rip, Cow Virtuoso" <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: beta? :) Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970509213051.0076adc4@mail.inlink.com>
>Anyone hear about this new video type called BETA? I hear it's >supposed to be even BETTER than DVD! > >(Resist the urge. Understand. Don't do it!)
i think the best analogy to this is laserdisc. anyone who bought one is shat out in some ways, because i think DVDs are going to take over like CDs took over tapes.. come on! DVD movies are 19 BUCKS! Laserdiscs are fucking 50-100! no one wants that! i'm ready to grab me a DVD rental from blockbuster and check this thing out. =)
~Rip
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@infinite.wezl.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: FREE Metallica Ticket!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970509190245.1280A-100000@infinite.wezl.org>
I thought some of you might be interested in this one...some dude is supposedly trying to give away a Metallica ticket for the Boise, ID show...I have NO clue when nor do I know any details, but if someone on here wants it and lives in the area, e-mail them at: bradwallace@rmci.net They said you CAN NOT re-sell it...all ya hafta do is conteact the dude and pick it up. Laters! Oh yeah...if it's BS I AM NOT responsible! I'm just trying to do someone a favor :)
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:37:19 -0400 (EDT) From: IdleMinds@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Enchant, Magellan and Winter Rose Message-ID: <970509183441_-732928866@emout03.mail.aol.com>
I just got an order I put into Buccaneer records out of Baltimore. I got the new Magellan which is very good...after a quick listen. I haven't touched Winter Rose yet...soon. Currently, I'm enjoying Enchant's "Wounded". Message to all: GET IT!! I think it's out on May 20th but Buccaneer gets their stuff early from Magna Carta direct, so they sell it early. Also, got the new TNT...haven't dared yet.
Robman
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:43:10 +0000 From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: FREE Metallica Ticket!!! Message-ID: <199705100043.RAA16802@odin.ax.com>
> I thought some of you might be interested in this one...some dude is > supposedly trying to give away a Metallica ticket for the Boise, ID > show...I have NO clue when nor do I know any details, but if someone on > here wants it and lives in the area, e-mail them at: bradwallace@rmci.net > They said you CAN NOT re-sell it...all ya hafta do is conteact the dude > and pick it up. Laters! Oh yeah...if it's BS I AM NOT responsible! I'm > just trying to do someone a favor :)
Yeah, like I wanna go. :) I heard something about them having an easter egg hunt in Boise for backstage passes and front row tickets, though. 'Twas rather kewl. I guess the "egg" was actually a tie-dyed Volkswagen hippie-van park across the street from the park everyone was searching the grounds for. Pretty funky egg. :)
But, I will be at the Salt Lake Rush concert May 20th! Boo yah! I'll have to pick up the new Enchant whilst I'm there.
What's a DVD? New album by Savatage or something? :)
"Dreams CAN come true as long as you stay awake." KorgX3 a.k.a. Llama-boy ibanez@cyberhighway.net
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:17:14 -0300 (EST) From: Rogerio Brito <rbrito@ant116.cce.usp.br> To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: FREE Metallica Ticket!!! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95q.970509221607.2316A-100000@ant116.cce.usp.br>
On Fri, 9 May 1997, KorgX3 wrote:
> What's a DVD? New album by Savatage or something? :)
Seriously? It is an acronym for Digital Video Disc (others may say that it stands for Digital Versatile Disc or anything else).
Hope this helps, Roger... -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rogerio Brito - rbrito@ime.usp.br - http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Undergraduate Computer Science Student - "Windows? Linux and X!" Bootleg/trade page: http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito/bootleg.html "Life is ours, we live it our way (...) / And nothing else matters" James Hetfield (Metallica), Nothing Else Matters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 19:48:02 -0600 From: "Vincent G. LuPone" <vgl@syspac.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Savatage, DVD (NDTC, NFWC, NMDC, NQRC, NMC, etc.) Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970509194759.007b7dc0@postoffice.syspac.com>
> What's a DVD? New album by Savatage or something? :)
Yeah, they scrapped that Stevens dude for some other guy with a real heavy German accent.
heheh, "Dead Vinter, Dead" ;)~
Peace and love, and good happiness stuff, ~Vince
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Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 23:56:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Awake77@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rising Force Songbook Message-ID: <970509235601_-1231757674@emout18.mail.aol.com>
Fellow JamPeople, Hello! Havent posted in ages, but I need some help. I need to learn, sequence backing drum/bass and keyboard parts and record Yngwie Malmsteen's "Icarus Dream Suite Opus 4" and "Little Savage" (Both off Rising Force) By June 2!!! Usually I figure anything I need to play out myself, but with work and stuff Ill never have the time. If ANYONE has the Rising Force Songbook and can get me the sheet music to these tunes, I would be ecstatic! Please!
-Chris DiGiuseppe Awake77@aol.com hed@northnet.org
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Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 23:09:11 -0600 From: WhiteWolf <prelude@autobahn.mb.ca> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2539 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970509230911.0068a574@autobahn.mb.ca>
> From: Scott Cook <skooc@italy-c.it.earthlink.net> > Subject: [Fwd: Chicago Police [joke]
Hehehe, not bad.
> Subject: New DT disc release date pushed back to '98?? > I have a buddy who works at an HMV here, and I asked him about 3 or 4 > months ago when the new DT disc was due out. After he spoke to the Warner > rep, he told me the album was due in summer of this year. Upon asking > again, he and I have now learned, according to the local Warner rep, that > it probably won't be out until at least December and possibly into early > 1998. January or maybe even February, to be specific. And, at the time I > found out, the band had yet to begin laying down tracks.
> Not even Warner Bros. is in a position to be able to know this, >unless they aren't actually getting DT into the studio in May, or they >have decided to hold back the release after it's already recorded and >ready. We've heard a LOT of people give a similar accounting here, saying >"I called Elektra" etc, and I think that there just aren't any official >facts to go by. All we know is the band said that they will be in the >studio in May, and the album should be out in Fall. I think there's a >good chance that they know this one better than the Warner rep. Of >course, I am not certain. >- Chris Ptacek
You think this was meant as a joke?? You think I have nothing better to do than write bogus mail to one of my favorite bands mailing lists? You're wrong.
And you're also right, somewhat. I spoke to the Warner rep with my buddy at HMV today and he confirmed that DT will enter the studio sometime this month. <I guess the petition paid off...congrats to everyone who signed it>. The same guy who produced Aerosmith's <a band who should call it quits, btw> last album, Nine Lives, is at the helm. The release date now, in fact, has been pushed up to a September or October release. This info is quite accurate and very current.
Eric
It's times like this I'm glad I dropped out of the ACOS transcription and went it alone. In fact, I'm almost done.
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Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:14:04 -0400 (EDT) From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: new 7 string price Message-ID: <970509234101_-1632454077@emout10.mail.aol.com>
i agree with adam cook about the price of the new 7 string. for that price (1299), you can find a decent used one, and if you're daring enough and/or talk a good talk with a guitar salesman, you can pull of a NEW universe for only $200 more. if these rg7's only have stock ibanez pickups, don't even bother. the stock pickups i had on my rg550 sucked fat moose penis. you want a guitar with dimarzios. i know you do.
just my thoughts on the matter
ytsegoon (ha ha, muthafucker, i have a universe and i smell your mother's panties)
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