YTSEJAM Digest 2553
Today's Topics:
1) MICHAEL. ANGELO.
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
2) DIVINE REGALE!!
by Tim <axe@mail1.nai.net>
3) Dead Student alert..
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
4) opinions, opinions, opinions... it's all opinions
by ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
5) Re: Spocks Beard mini review
by "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2552
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
7) Majesty? or Majesty?
by Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
8) DT reviews
by Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
9) Re: Dead Student alert..
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
10) New Magellan, Prog Box Set
by Longshot@upn20email.com
11) Vai
by "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
12) RE: LOOK OUT!!
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
13) Bay Area Concerts
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
14) RE: Sherinian, 5th Element, Compilation Discs
by "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
15) James LaBrie
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
16) Princess Theater, Quake
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
17) The Gathering's "Nighttime Birds"
by "Michael Kohsiek" <MKOHSIEK@jurs1.jura.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE>
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 21:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Drym Thzbnz <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: MICHAEL. ANGELO.
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970514205726.72210D-100000@dante08.u.washington.edu>
> From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
>
> Hmm.... Bela Vai and the Vaitamins? (d'oh!)
Sounds cool. Grab me a demo. And a bottle'a anything. TO GO.
> Duncan JBs are sweet pickups. MICHAEL.ANGELO. gets some ripping tone
> out of em too (even though you can only handle so much M.A. before you
> go insane and start playing BeeGees n' stuff).
Man, I gotta hear this guy. How many of his albums do you own, Chris?
> I myself use the Screamin' Demon. Duncans are beefier pickups that I
> think distort better than DiMarzios.
Or it could be that it's time to get rid of that DOD American Metal
pedal...
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo,
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:22:04 -0400
From: Tim <axe@mail1.nai.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DIVINE REGALE!!
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970515002152.0073b854@pop1.nai.net>
>although... new Flotsam and Jetsam comes out soon, as well as more cool
>stuff on Metal Blade.. New Galactic Cowboys and they signed a VERY Dream
>Theater sounding band called Divine Regale (they were on the last Metal
>Massacre) CD.
I actually found out about the band Divine Regale through the Ytsejam.
I think one of their members was online at some point. Anyways, I was
a college DJ at the time, so I was able to pick up their 1994 CD
"Horizons". In fact, I remember emailing someone at Metal Blade
telling them how impressed I was with this CD. It *is* Dream Theater
-esque in many parts, ...but at the same time it has a quality all its
own. If anyone wants to hear it, I'd be glad to make trades...that is
unless one of the members is online and has extra CD's left!!
Anyways, its great to hear that a band of this caliber has been signed
to such a great label for prog-metal bands such as Metal Blade!
Rock on!
Tim
axe@ct1.nai.net
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:45:05 +0000
From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dead Student alert..
Message-ID: <337A4E81.3446@sprynet.com>
This user has his/her e-mail account disabled because it is our school's
SUMMER break.
In case the student is enrolled in one of our summer classes, then the
account is disabled for one of the following reasons:
- owner has some problems regarding his/her e-mail/disk quota
- owner has been found lying in a ditch a bloody mess wearing a
torn "Dream Theater" shirt and uttering something about Yitsee
oatmeal and goats.
NOTE: The user won't get or receive a copy of this e-mail. He/she is too
busy resting in a mental facility screaming to go to some movie theater
of some sort. he/she is scared that slew of yitsee oatmeal will soon
begin to catch him on fire. Please beg for the goat lord to save this
lost child's soul. He has wasted far too much space. Let him be..let him
be...
thank you have a nice day
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:48:14 -0400
From: ernie@pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: opinions, opinions, opinions... it's all opinions
Message-ID: <19970515035603.AAA27878@ernst-d>
Ok, one last blabber about singers. I think the reason people always
disagree on all these singers is because it's mostly based on how one likes
a singer's voice. For example, I like LaBrie's voice because even when
he's singing at a high pitch, his tone is still rich and full. However
other singers mentioned here sound too thin for my taste... that'd be Ray
Alder for example. I just don't like his voice... but apparently many
people do.... and that's that. It doesn't mean he's a bad singer. And I'd
rather not talk about who's a better singer, because I'm not a singer.
However, most of the time when I've seen singers jumping in on these
reocurring discussions ( and I refer to 'singers' as people who've truly
studied the techniques and know their shit about this subject), they
usually place LaBrie a notch above other singers that are usually discussed
on this list... except with Tate with whom he's usually consiedered an
equal.
But as far as *my* personal opinion, all I can say is that I've always
found JLB's voice to be pleasant to my ear, powerful, unique, and very
emotional.
And as for live performance, Ithink it has more to do w/ personal
expierences. I for one, saw him sing PERFECTLY at the show I went to, and
all the bootlegs that I have go from a very bad night, to excellent,
CD-quality performances.
And stage presence shouldn't even be considered. Music was meant to be
HEARD. Stage preference is a triviality that became important when rock
became so popular. But if the music's good, I don't need anybody to run
around and tell me I should scream for him. I'd rather he dedicate himself
to do the best performance he can. In fact I find that I appreciate music a
lot more when I close my eyes.
-----------------------QUOTES WORTH MENTIONING---------------------
"EGOTIST,n. A person of low taste, more interested in himself
than in me." -Ambrose Bierce, 'The Devil's Dictionary'
Ernesto Schnack
ernie@pananet.com
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Date: 14 May 97 21:59:41 -0700
From: "NEVANS.US.ORACLE.COM" <NEVANS@us.oracle.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Spocks Beard mini review
Message-ID: <199705150500.WAA14642@mailseq4.us.oracle.com>
>Neil, I do apologize I did not see your original review.
Cool, no harm done. It was a great show, and those two SB discs have not left
my disc player here at work all week (well, except to change from one to the
other =)..
Jammers - don't hesitate to say "hi" to other jammers at these shows.. I'm
sure most of us are psyched to meet other people with some musical
commonalities..
cheers,
-Neil.
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:09:04 -0500
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2552
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970515050904.00ade024@pop.enteract.com>
> Okay, here's a quick thought, why does everyone want to hate a
>mainstream band? I mean, I personally don't like No Doubt's music, but I
>respect them as musicians and human beings. I mean, they're not as
>talented as Dream Theater, but they're not exactly Sonic Youth either.
We all need something to hate. Seriously though, even though I make
fun of some music, I don't really hate anything.... except kissing my GF
after she just ate a grapefruit (I hate grapefruit) or that yummy Orange
Juice after brushing the teeth taste...
>Is it because it's a
>woman making headway (excuse the perverse pun ;) in a predominantly
>male-populated genre?
This is the kind of argument one uses to score with a feminist. "I
think the men around here are being mean because they feel like they're
being threatened by the females". I think in this case it's more "calling a
spade a spade"... if you hate her voice and their music, it's your right.
> As far as her getting an acting career, who knows, maybe it's always
>been a dream of hers to be an actress, and a mainstream band was the
>easiest way to get noticed and break into showbusiness. Kinda dumb to piss
>on somebody's face for following their dream, huh?
Not necessarily. In this case, yes, but if Dave Mustaine cut his
hair, dressed preppy and was playing a club owner on a new rehash of 90210,
you'd probably piss all over him. It's a tough line to cross. Madonna gets
shit on for trying to act... it just happens.
>dunno, it works for me, even with my Lo Pro Edge, Madz. :)
EWWWWWWWW!!!!! (In case anyone needs to know this, I really have
nothing against players of the lo pro... I just dislike the feel and action
of that trem. Some people wanna pigeon hole me for one thing or another...)
>that day. The swede, defeted, throws down his guitar, and surrenders the stage
Is Vai Swedish? Could have svarn he was Italian
>I don't have a website, but if you go see "The 5th Element" you'll get an
>idea of how I think. This is the sort of stuff I'd love to do. (not
>Leeloo, the movie)
Kick ass movie. :) I'm more of a Braveheart fanatic myself tho.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:11:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rick Audet <ytse@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Majesty? or Majesty?
Message-ID: <199705150511.BAA12797@newman.concentric.net>
As I approach my last few days here in Gainesville, Florida, I wandered over
to the local used-CD/bootleg shop. While actually looking for a Massive
Attack disc, I happened upon something by a band called Majesty. No, this
ain't one of those nifty Bahr Boots by a band formerly known as Majesty. It
actually was what appeared to be a German metal band by this name. I forget
the title of the album, but from the looks of the bandmembers and the list
of equipment they like to use, they seem to be Metal to me (no flames for
the apparent stereotype). I was under the impression the actual Majesty, the
band who refused to give up their name which forced our beloved Long Island
Quintet (LIQ) to race through names like "Glasser" and others before
settling on "Dream Theater" (is that how it's spelled? ), is actually a Jazz
band of sorts. So..... WTF? Comments from the peanut gallery?
Thank you, and have a day.
Now Playing: Opus III, "Mind Fruit"
-Rick Audet
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 22:59:27 -0700
From: Mark Hatch-Miller <ace@onfire.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT reviews
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970514225908.00698b68@onfire.net>
Some guy sent me a message about my Megadeth page and he has a record
review page, with all these different bands, but NO DREAM THEATER!! So I
wrote a brief bio and reviews of every DT album (sorry, no demos or
anything). The address is http://www.users.interport.net/~aske. So check
it out, and tell me what you think of my reviews. : )
Mark Hatch-Miller (Cygnus)
ace@onfire.net
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Deep RUSH Thoughts:
One time I tried to hold my fire, but after a few seconds my hands fell off.
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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:54:21 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Dead Student alert..
Message-ID: <199705150554.WAA26495@odin.ax.com>
> NOTE: The user won't get or receive a copy of this e-mail. He/she is too
> busy resting in a mental facility screaming to go to some movie theater
> of some sort. he/she is scared that slew of yitsee oatmeal will soon
> begin to catch him on fire. Please beg for the goat lord to save this
> lost child's soul. He has wasted far too much space. Let him be..let him
> be...
BLEAT!
Mail me with your opinions...
---KorgX3
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Date: 15 May 1997 00:58:36 PDT
From: Longshot@upn20email.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: New Magellan, Prog Box Set
Message-ID: <199705150558.WAA26533@odin.ax.com>
I just bought the new Magellan CD "Test Of Wills". Pretty good CD. I
liked "Impending Ascension" better, but there are differences on this
new one:
1) A real drummer (Which they have a drum solo on track 2 to prove this)
2) More Guitar
My favorite song on the album 'Walk Fast, Look Worried' has great
acoustic guitar work on it.
When I was at Tower Records, I saw a boxed set called "Supernatural
Farie Tales, The Progressive Rock Era". It is a 5 CD set. It has some
obvious groups (Genesis, Yes, ELP), some mentioned here (Gentle Giant),
some not so obvious (Frank Zappa, Roxy Music?!?), and a bunch of groups
I have never heard of. Is this box set any good?
I was looking at the Magna Carta web page and noticed "Crack The Sky"
was in the list of artists. Checking it out, I found out that they are
on the Genesis tribute CD. I will have to look for it. (If anyone can
tell me where I can find CTS CDs, especially "Into the Greenhouse", I
would appreciate it.)
Also, those of you still looking for Magellan's "Hour Of Restoration" or
Shadow Gallery's self titled release, Magna Carta is releasing them for
direct order only. I might actually be able to get those CDs at a
reasonable price....
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Jason Birzer "One likes to believe in the freedom of music
"The Longshot" but glittering prizes and endless compromises
shatter the illusion of integrity."
longshot@upn20Email.com Rush - The Spirit Of Radio
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 17:49:16 +1000
From: "Paul Matthews" <J6865644@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Vai
Message-ID: <3B7EA042E@emu.bendigo.latrobe.edu.au>
Vai is not a swede.
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:58:53 +0100
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: LOOK OUT!!
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970514235853Z-536@ms.Kallback.com>
>commin right from a concert with a new band called Royal Hunt....
Well, they're not new. I've got two cds by them and I know they have a
couple more. They sound kind of like Europe.
>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:01:31 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bay Area Concerts
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970515010128.006e2528@cats.ucsc.edu>
Hey, maybe we should start up a Bay Area concert list. That way, those of
us who live out in the leftish area can know about such things. While I
knew about Rush and couldn't go, I didn't know about Spock's (I've never
heard their stuff either) -- it could be a useful way to communicate, and
it's always a good time meeting other Jammers.
__ /\ __
__\/__\/__ ~Chris
\_||_/ http://www2.ucsc.edu/people/aspect/
/__||__\
// \ | \\ "Let nothing bleed into nothing, and did nothing at all"
\| Jim Matheos, Fates Warning, "A Pleasant Shade of Gray"
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 01:06:48 +0100
From: "Trevor W. Hoit" <TrevorW@ms.kallback.com>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: RE: Sherinian, 5th Element, Compilation Discs
Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=kbhq%l=KBHQ-970515000648Z-541@ms.Kallback.com>
Snafu Vai,
>
>Anyone else here going to see Queensryche at the Gorge in June?
uh, me. 10th row!
>
>"Chee-kan. Good."
> --Leeloo
Chee-kan. Good., Leeloo. Good-looking., Movie. Bad., IMO.
Trevor
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 02:53:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Drym Thzbnz <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: James LaBrie
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970515022529.24890H-100000@dante17.u.washington.edu>
> From: "Michael Kohsiek" <MKOHSIEK@jurs1.jura.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE>
> Subject: James LaBrie and Dream Theater..
>
> Concerning the thing about LaBrie:
> I have the opinion that James LaBrie is definetly the weakest point
> in the "art of Dream Theater". Esepecially live he doesn't fit to the
> technical brilliance the musicians have.
> I think that a singer like Ray Alder, Harry Conklin or Charlie
> Dominici (WHAT a voice he had!!) would better fit to DT than LaBrie.
>
> What do the other people think?
I don't think anyone could be James LaBrie better than James LaBrie, just
like I don't think anyone could write guitar parts for Alice in Chains
better than Jerry fuckin' Cantrell. That's what I don't think. As for what
I do think... I do think that LaBrie will have to be in the band for at
lease another decade before people stop playing this "what if" game and
figure out that years ago John Petrucci, Mike Portnoy, John Myung, and
Kevin Moore made a DECISION.
---- > From: filth <ripzero@inlink.com> > Subject: labrie > > and with his voice change on awake he sounds like rob zombie's mom.Yeah? Rob Zombie sounds like James Hetfield's mom. ;)
> and whats with james's gasping onstage? "hey <GASP!> out there > <GASP!!!> Alright, <GASP> this one kicks <gasp> ass.. this is YTSE > <GASP!!!!!> JAM!!!"
1. Dominici doesn't have half the lungpower of LaBrie. The reason Dominici went weakass-falsetto so often during live shows was because he didn't have the force to resonate his natural voice at high pitches. He had no wind. (plus, he wanted to save his voice so he could falsetto more during the encore.) My point is, you won't hear Dominici gasp on bootlegs because he's not expending the necessary effort to lose one's breath to begin with.
2. Ever try singing along to "Under A Glass Moon" at full volume? Do you have any idea how loud LaBrie's voice really is? Ever try holding that note at the end as long as he does it at live shows? Ever try singing those notes at the end of "Innocence Faded?" I'm not saying you can't sing, Rip, I'm not jerking you around, I'm just amazed that you would ask such a question. I've sung through "Metropolis" before, and I wonder how LaBrie does it *AND* about ten other songs without passing out...
> i normally would post something like, but i figured with as hostile as > everyone gets over someone saying they dont like james, i'd send my > warmest retorts.
I don't mind that you don't like James, but pointing out that he gasps onstage considering what he does is like asking why boxers have icebags on their faces after a fight.
Personally I think all one need do is listen to LaBrie on the live version of "Light Fuse And Get Away" (from Bahr's WDATU), where he jumps the octave. It sounds something like this:
"STOP YO' HANDS FROM SHAKING LOOK AT ME YOU FUCKIN' COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKEEERRRRAAGHAHGHAHGGH!!"
Well...that's not his exact line, but that's his tone. He blasts that line like he's being shot out of a cannon. Hmmm....LaBrie missiles...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 03:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thezbianz <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Princess Theater, Quake Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970515025449.24890I-100000@dante17.u.washington.edu>
> From: Elliott Kim <ekim@gate.net> > Subject: Princess Bride/DT parody
"* * * * out of * * * *. All I can say is WOW." --Steve Borzilleri
"Behold the Killing Hand!" --Dust Pan Ghost
"Classic." --Chris Ptacek
"AbravaElliottbravabravissimott!!" --Luciano Pavarotti
"Two thumbs up!" --Ytse & Jam
"What is this, a fucking circus?!" --James LaBrie
> Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The > most famous is never buy a Crate amp and hope for a good tone, but only > slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when > death is on the line! Hahahahahhhahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha.
One of those classic blunders is dead-on correct. The other can be tested by e-mailing me with a phone number at which you can be reached. No no no, I mean RIGHT NOW, Elliott. The Celestion Confederacy would like a word with you. No no no, I'm part Sicilian, too! Thus you can't tell WHICH blunder you've screwed up... But earmuffs are advised...
---- > From: eckie@asu.edu > Subject: Eckie's raid > > And if I'm feeling really quirky, > > Micheal W. Smith's "I'll Lead You Home"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!! :) :)
Ever try just screaming obscenities at the top of your lungs? Scream at the people you gun down, pretend they're your elementary-school teachers. This will go on your permanent record, young manPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW!! No running in the hallwaysPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW!! Put your name on the board, BorzilleriPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW!! Thumbtacks on my chair is absolutely unacceptable behaviorPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW!! Attempts at escape must be punishedPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW!!
"You are a terrible writer, Mr. Borzilleri. There's a word for your essay, a British word in fact....it's called DRIVEL. You could learn a lot from the British, Mr. Borzilleri." --Mrs. Hannah
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 13:20:06 100 From: "Michael Kohsiek" <MKOHSIEK@jurs1.jura.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: The Gathering's "Nighttime Birds" Message-ID: <19C2B09042F@jurs1.jura.uni-osnabrueck.de>
Hi!
Anyone has asked in the near past about the new THE GATHERING album. I have the promo copy of "Nighttime Birds" and all I can say is: wonderful! I think that's the best words to describe the work of Anneke van Giesbergen and her musicians. Wonderful voice, wonderful melodies ("Confusion"), wonderful arrangements and wonderful rhythms! In my opionion it is better than "Mandylion". So check it out! And: hey Tiamat, look how easy it is to make a moving piece of music without getting boring...
Michael
*************************************************** * "So where do we begin * * and what else can we say? * * When the lines are all drawn * * What should we do today?" * * * * "A Pleasant Shade * * Of Gray" - Fates Warning * * * * * * Michael Kohsiek * * Blumenesch 8a Siegerlandstr.15 * * 49078 Osnabrueck 48527 Nordhorn * * Tel.: 0541/43771 05921/722272 * * Germany * * * ***** "still writing letters in my head..." ******
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