YTSEJAM Digest 2565
Today's Topics:
1) Please Pass the Jelly
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
2) DOOH!
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
3) Re: TOPICS
by "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net>
4) Mike Bahr
by Dave <buster@ee.net>
5) Long pointless spam, so read it anyway.
by "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
6) What brought THIS on?
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2564
by "SHRED" <lih@sbu.ac.uk>
8) A Big Thank You To My Fellow Ytsejammers
by JE78674@ltu.edu
9) Re: Fates on this list
by brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
10) 22nd birthdays...
by durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
11) FNM
by "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
12) My buddy Satan.....
by Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 2562
by Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
14) Re: Edwin Dare
by Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
15) I still like GNR!
by "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:28:23 -0400
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Please Pass the Jelly
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970519212823.0068b1d8@ee.net>
>> "But who has time to sit around reading directions these days -
>> especially when you're sexually aroused?
Oh I see, so she got all hot and turned on and she
didnt have time to read the directions, so in the throws
of passion she ran into the kitchen and made some toast
to put her vaginal contraceptive on.
Makes sense to me...sounds to me like that was quicker
for her than learning how to read :)
buster
http://users1.ee.net/buster
http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:34:16 -0400
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DOOH!
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970519213416.00689ac0@ee.net>
>> Subject: Re: Truth is indeed stranger than fiction
>> p.s. - I feel sorry for the kid she's gonna have (if she has it).
>
>Yeah. I wonder what she does with sanitary napkins?
ROFLMAO!!!
Dude, that floored me! hehehe...good point too!
buster
http://users1.ee.net/buster
http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:36:28 -0400
From: "Lauren Glenn" <LGlenn@quadnet.net>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: TOPICS
Message-ID: <199705200139.VAA28721@mail.quadnet.net>
>And one more thing, we need a new rule that prevents new subscribers from
>writing "Hi my name is (Fill in the blank) I'm from (Fill in country or
>state) and I love Dream Theater and other progressive and metal bands,
>please write to me." This isnt a fuckin 12-step program.
Woah, buddy..... What's the big deal? Maybe they want a DT fan who's
local to them to e-mail them back. At least they're not using expletives.
Lauren
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http://www.quadnet.net/l-glenn
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 21:39:54 -0400
From: Dave <buster@ee.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mike Bahr
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970519213954.00689ac0@ee.net>
> One of our very own Jammers, the always friendy Hui-Chi, was on
>the front page of the local Tribune the other day here in Arizona. (It
>showed her graduating from ASU). I just thought it was pretty cool to have
>a color pic of a Jammer on the front page, and have it not be an arrest or
>anything. :) Congratulations Hui-Chi and all other college graduates!! You
>accomplished what I never could.
>
>- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
Welp, since I've sent a couple emails to you in the past couple
of weeks Mike, and you havent responded, but you have been posting
to the jam, I thought maybe I would copy the text from my email to you
and post it here on the jam in hopes that you might see it and respond.
Here goes.....again:
>Hi Mike, Im not trying to be a nuisance, but I'm still
>wondering where my CD is. I thought I was supposed to have it
>in early april??
>Dave Hatlee - dhatlee@dhpc.com
buster (Dave)
http://users1.ee.net/buster
http://www.dhpc.com/ryche/
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 19:45:51 +0000
From: "KorgX3" <ibanez@mailhost.cyberhighway.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Long pointless spam, so read it anyway.
Message-ID: <199705200146.SAA12120@odin.ax.com>
> They also said that this was not unusual on live records.
> I didn't know this before, so I wonder is this done on LAtM and the
> live parts on ACoS?
I'm not sure about LatM, bu tI know they did it for ACOS. At least
James resang his parts. That's all I know about it. I think it's in
the FAQ, so you might check there to make sure. (Damn, if D-Man
doesn't get well soon, what's gonna become of our beloved FAQ?)
> > I was simply commenting on the fact that people seem to coming out
> > of the woodwork all of the sudden and ripping James a new oriface.
> >
>
> Another orifice for Korg to check out :)
<Butthead>Huh, huh, check out that chick's butt, Beavis.
<Beavis>If I had a butt like that, I'd never leave the house.
(James LaBrie turns around)
<Butthead>UHhuhHUhuhUHUh!!! She's a dude! Huh, huh, huh.
<Beavis>AHHHHHHHHHH!!! Dude looks like a lady! Heh, heh, heh...
<Butthead>And you wanted to do him...
<Beavis>Heh, heh, heh, well if he were a chick, he'd have a nice
butt... Yah, that was kewl...
<Violent smacking ensues...)
> replacement. My personal pick? Try not to laugh -> Bruce
> Dickinson (formerly of Iron Maiden). He's got the high-end
> capabilities, as well as
(Violent smacking ensues...) :)
> fucking thing one can fucking do to make a fucking point, ok?
> Besides, fuckers like him really fucking make me fucking sick!
> Besides, being a martyr is cool. Kurt Cobain was a fucking martyr
> man...
(Violent smacking ensues...) :)
> >Kurt Cobain was a fucking martyr man...
>
> Scratch that. This is pure stupidity. Uncut. If Cobain was a martyr,
> then I must be Saint Stodgers. Get a clue. And while you're at it,
> here's a nickel. Go get a brain and a life and bring me my change.
Watch out, dude. I think he's starting to use that sarcasm we taght
him about a month or two ago. :)
> yI am not a follower of X-files, but I have seen a few episodes. How
> did he die?
I'd ask, Damon, but I don't think I'd wanna know... :)
> Everyone here is constantly posting anecdotes about how their
> girlfriends, wives, friends, whoever, hate DT and listen to more
> mainstream music. Or about how they play DT for people and they
> think it's cheese. I wish more people here would just face the
> reality that the majority of people who hear DT just don't like the
> music.
No, that's not true, Lars. The majority of the people who listen to
mainstream music have NEVER even heard of DT. I meet all kinds of
people interested in music and I mention Dream Theater and I get a
big, "Who?" I actually had one guy hit it pretty close by saying,
"Are they kinda like Rush, I heard they were good, but never
listened to them before." I subsequently gave him my Dream Theater
car tape. Another big reason for Dream Theater to be unliked by most
mainstream listeners is because it's just "not cool" to listen to
stuff like this. I went to High School, I know how it goes.
Whenever my friends and I would go music shopping, they would explain
to me why it was "not cool" to listen to Joe Satriani, or how it was
"not cool" to listen to Rush. Very pathetic reasons, too. I think
it's more because these people are afraid that they're parents will
like it and they wouldn't be able to be so deliberately rebellious
anymore. Teenage rebellion's been on sale for years. MTV
monopolizes it. Why would they want to give that up?
> And one more thing, we need a new rule that prevents new subscribers
> from writing "Hi my name is (Fill in the blank) I'm from (Fill in
> country or state) and I love Dream Theater and other progressive and
> metal bands, please write to me." This isnt a fuckin 12-step
> program.
(Violent slapping ensues...) :) (C'mon Mark, we all did it. :)
Anyway... I'm going to Rush tomorrow night at the Delta Center in
Salt Lake City. Any SLC jammers better find me and say Hi. I'll be
in Row 16 in the Ytsejam shirt covered with the blue plaid flannel
shirt (I like the heat :) and the blue Arizona shorts. My
brown hair's about Fabio length and I'll definitely be wearing my
green and whit Philidelphia Eagles hat BACKWARDS!
BTW, if I look pissed off and "Don't fuk with me" it's cuz I haven't
met any fellow jammers yet, so say hi. :)
"Oompa Doompa Doompity Dee, Shut the fuck up and listen to me."
---KorgX3
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 22:23:50 -0400
From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: What brought THIS on?
Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970519222346.00687d88@ici.net>
>>And we *know* that what they say goes. :) Actually, I guess it's more
>>important what MTV says.
>
>Oh yeah... MTV controls the music industry, I forgot for a second. You
>know what? That argument is getting real tiresome.
[a LONG, repetitive tirade snipped for brevity's sake]
Okay, even if the above passing comment was meant seriously (which it was
not), I wonder what the hell crawled up your butt and died and made you
spew that at me.
Look up sarcasm in the dictionary sometime. Then climb down off your high
horse before you fall and hurt somebody.
You go off on a tirade about DT and No Doubt and MTV and MuchMusic and all
this other bullshit FOR NO DAMN REASON!! RELAX already. You're posting
about how upset you get when people post their "MTV sucks" stories. Well,
if it bothers you that much, then go complain to the people who write the
posts, 'cause I ain't one of 'em.
-----
________Pat Sullivan__________________________________
E-mail: psull@ici.net
WWW: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html
IRC: DDictator
NP: Deliverance - "If You Will"
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 03:50:42 +0000
From: "SHRED" <lih@sbu.ac.uk>
To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2564
Message-ID: <199705200252.DAA08003@CSDAlpha2.sbu.ac.uk>
> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 18:53:58 -0400
> From: Carlos Alfaro <calfaro@caribe.net>
> To: El Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
> Subject: jason
> Message-ID: <3380DA05.1FE5@caribe.net>
>
> can anyone with perspectives from jason becker send me soundfiles or
> can direct me to some page with soundfiles..i wanna order the album but
> i wanna hear some stuff off it first
>
> --
Just bye the damn Cd!!! It's Jason Becker, it's great.
Don't waste your time! Buy it, it's great. Also, go buy a Jason
Becker t-shirt. Support Jason!
Shred.
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:09:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: JE78674@ltu.edu
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: A Big Thank You To My Fellow Ytsejammers
Message-ID: <01IJ2KGEBC1U8ZF6O7@LTU.EDU>
I just want to take this time and thank all of the people that mailed me
in response to TESLA. I'm happy to know I'm not alone in enjoying this
band's music =]
Thanks 'Jammers,
Jeff E.
P.S. (IMO) I still think Song & Emotion by TESLA is a definate candidate for
a DT remake ;)
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:10:49 -0400
From: brian.kirk@USVGI.mail.abb.com
To: " - (052)ytsejam (a) ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Fates on this list
Message-ID: <0010200000473460000002L002*@MHS>
> From: strategy@45150.com (Jeff Keifling)
> Subject: Fates on this list
>
> I agree. And what happened to the idea of a Fatez mailing list? I gue=
ss
> none of us have time / equipment / knowledge / or interest to start i=
t. I
> sure's hell don't know how to do it.
I suppose this is a good a time as any to make the first announcement.
Mike Kizer and I have reached an agreement to co-maintain a FW mailing =
list.
The only holdup right now is the fact that I just moved. I don't quite=
have
all my stuff reconnected. But as soon as it is, we'll get the list set=
up and
running.
Once we have something working, I will post an announcement with detail=
s on how
to sign up. Until then, please do not ask me what the address of the l=
ist is.
There isn't one yet, but there will be one soon.
So, the bottom line, you ask? All you Fates Warning fans, keep your ey=
es
pealed for further info, be thinking of good names for the list, and, m=
ost
importantly, please be patient. Mike and I have never done this sort o=
f thing
before so things may be a bit rough in the beginning.
"Briiiaaaaan!!" "Kiiirrrrrrk!!"
- Joe, Wings - Khan, Wrath of Khan
brian.kirk@usvgi.mail.abb.com
bkirk@blkbox.com
Write me. If you dare!
=
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 20:23:31 -0700 (MST)
From: durnik <durnik@goodnet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: 22nd birthdays...
Message-ID: <199705200323.UAA02820@goodnet.com>
Well Partha... if it makes you feel any better, your 23rd birthday
is going to be even more meaningless than your 22nd. :) Mine came and
went, and I honestly don't think my life changed one micron. My 24th
should be suitably drab as well. At least at 25 I can rent cars and my
auto insurance rate will drop through the floor... though getting married
also had the same effect on that.
Just letting everyone know, PT and TDOW shipping is going quite
normally. Shit, it's almost _boring_. Virtual Songs should ship more or
less on schedule. The variable will be how soon I do (or don't) get the
liners from the print shop.
I'm thinking of commencing orders on the next project, since
everything else is cranking right along and only E2E is in limbo (still
pre-production). I should get enough money from my wedding-reception party
next week to buy a few more gigs of hard drive space, and the increase
from 7 gig to around 10 should be enough to accomodate another CD project
and push E2E into ready status. What do you all think? The main people I
don't want to alienate are those who have waited like five months for
their PT discs... though thankfully most of them seem to be arriving
safely at this time in the mail.
- Mike Bahr - durnik@goodnet.com - http://www.goodnet.com/~durnik
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:35:23 +0000
From: "The Evil Midnight Bomber" <Dale.R.Newberry@MO.NET>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: FNM
Message-ID: <199705200442.XAA29927@Walden.MO.NET>
Hey, I just saw a new Faith no More video on 120 Minutes the other
night. Not a bad song. Interesting video.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:42:00 +0000
From: Phillip <pkish@sprynet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My buddy Satan.....
Message-ID: <3380E548.47F3@sprynet.com>
what?!? Someone has a problem with Satanic lyrics?!? Actually I found
that on Samael's "Passage" the Satanic lyrics have been somewhat toned
down but they still aren't very nice....Some Samael I heard was pretty
dang Satanic and the name itself doesn't lend one to a picture of a
family sitting in church..
Well, as far as the classification of what is and isn't black metal, I
think it's become something almost like "progressive" in that a lot of
bands coming out are using the Black Metal description because it fits
their personal definitions but doesn't necessarily fit the definitions
of the original stuff. In fact, when I first heard Samael, I considered
it to be really good death metal type stuff but then I saw it classified
as Black so I said "wow. some black metal is cool." Like I said, the
Emperor and Mayhem I heard wasn't real impressing to me, so maybe I
don't like true black metal after all...
As far as Cradle of Filth live, I too am VERY curious as to how well
they pull off the vocals live..there is some sort of festival in
Milwaukee in July and CoF is playing with Venom (are they black metal?
old school black metal?) so some Americans may find out....And for the
story with the shirt...hehehe..my friend has the shirt on order and I
bet A LOT of people around here aren't going to take too kindly...
In the (well not really) vein, fans of Carcass may be interested in the
fact that Black Star, featuring the remnants of Carcass, have signed
with Peaceville Records and will be releasing their first CD soon...
Has anyone out there heard the bass player of Conception's Black/death
metal band Crest of Darkness? CDEurope has it but I want to hear some
reviews first.
Man, look how far I have drifted from DT...oh well too funking bad.
later
Phillip
Cool CD of the Day: Angra "Holy Land"
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 23:49:58 -0500
From: Chris Ptacek <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 2562
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19970520044958.00c541e0@pop.enteract.com>
>From: Lars Hellsten <larsh@ionsys.com>
>Subject: Fuck!
>Hey stupid, obviously the point I was making in that sentence flew way
>fucking over your head.
No... but it tooted out of your own moronic horn. I've never seen
anyone kiss his own ass like you do, Lars.
> If you had a brain,
If I had a brain, I'd know better than to agrue with someone who
resorts to swears and insults as a method of getting his points across. For
now, I think I'll belittle you. You've proven that such a task requires no
mind. :)
> you would realize that it's
>these same people like this guy who brand me as "closed minded" for liking
>LTL, TTT, and Metropolis that bash Alanis and No Doubt.
You are delusional if you believe that. No one is on your case for
likeing LTL or TTT or any DT song. Get a grip.
>Isn't it a bit
>hypocritical to flame someone for being closed minded.
Isn't it a bit hypocritical to make fun of someone's grasp of the
English language, only to ignore grammar completely in your own post?
>I mean, even if I
>was closed minded, expecting everyone in the world to be open minded is
>just as closed minded as anything else.
That makes no sense at all. None.
> If that makes any sense.
None.
>> Yeah... go fucking fuck a fucker you fuckfuck!
>
>Fuck you, you fucking Ptacek!!
"Fucking unoriginal bastard!" -Tollbooth Willy
>His argument didn't make any sense, because he was supporting my argument.
Which is why I said, it would have been easy to knock his argument
down rationally, like an adult. Now you just look like a complete moron,
and he didn't have to say a word to get you there.
>I was attacking the fucking flames and the fucking stupidity in his message
There were neither flames nor signs of stupidty in his message, so
far as I can see.
>by fucking lowering myself to his fucking level, which at times is the only
>fucking thing one can fucking do to make a fucking point, ok?
No, you moron, you dove three hundred yards BELOW his level with
your cursing and moronic insults. He made a conscious effort to post
intelligently. You made a conscious effort not to.
>Besides,
>fuckers like him really fucking make me fucking sick!
That's a good enough excuse to make us all sick of you, right?
>Besides, being a
>martyr is cool. Kurt Cobain was a fucking martyr man...
And I'm a pink elephant with a shotgun up my ass. I'm glad it's
cool to be like Kurt Cobain. I guess that proves I'll never be cool... not
big on the whole suicide/drug addict idea... but if that's where you want to
go with your life, please. Martyrdom awaits.
Chris W. Ptacek Musician and Listener
A.K.A Madsman, on IRC
"Can we search for inspiration -- those ideas that just come
from 'nowhere'? They don't surface when you're tHiNKinG.
They just come. What we CAN do is make fertile the ground
on which idea seeds fall."
- Michael Hedges
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Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 00:35:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sava Web <savaweb@winternet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Edwin Dare
Message-ID: <199705200535.AAA16293@tundra.winternet.com>
>
> Hey Gang,
> I was wondering if anyone has gotten Edwin Dare's "The Unthinkable
> Deed". I just got "Can't Break Me" from KOTR and it is really good. I would
> appreciate any comments on the second album. Thanks!
"Unthinkable Deed" is their Previous album, I haven't heard it yet, but I
ordered it lastweek. From what I have heard is if you like Can't break Me then
you like "Unthinkable Deed". Also there should be a new one from ED
out shortly...
Nathan Bradley
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Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 22:36:06 PDT
From: "Eric LaRue" <rycheanviolator@hotmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I still like GNR!
Message-ID: <199705200536.WAA26803@f49.hotmail.com>
MTV played "Estranged" today. I was happy!
I hope they follow the string of cool bands that put out albums!
And I hope it doesn't suck!
Complete with burning guitars, bashed up drum sets and sealed with a kiss,
Eric Paul LaRue
"Take hold of the flame.
Don't you see life's a game?
So take hold of the flame.
You've got nothing to lose, but everything to gain!"
Queensr˙che-"Take Hold of the Flame"
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6289
"We're on a mission from God."-Blues Brothers
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